MENZ FAMILY

Germany To Australia

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Johann George Menz c.1817

Generation No. 1

 

JOHANN GEORGE MENZ b. about 1817, was named as (father) on a marriage certificate of his son Johann Friedrick Ephraim Menz in 1866.

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Johann Friedrich Ephraim Menz c.1837

& Marie Elisabeth Hante

Generation No. 2

 

Born c.1837: JOHANN FRIEDRICH EPHRAIM MENZ known as 'Friedrich' 'Fred'

Father: Johann George Menz

Mother: - name unknown.

  • JFE Menz signed his marriage certificate as 'Friedrich Menz' and gave his age at the time as 29 - making his birth about 1837.

  • Shipping arrival information for Friedrich was from Tucheim, Magdeburg, Germany, and would have been born about 1837.

Arrival in Australia: Aboard the ship "Adolf" on 20th February 1865. Also on this voyage was a Fritz Menz possibly a relation but probably not a brother as Fritz is a version of the name Friedrich/Fredrick. Another passenger on the ship was a young pregnant girl Elizabeth Hante, who became Friedrich's wife on the 9th March 1866 17 days after their arrival.

  • [Info found : Emigrants Hamburg to Australia 1860-1869 fich no.1of2 & Shipping Intelligence News in several SA newspapers)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marriage: Johann 'Friedrich' Ephraim Menz aged 29yrs married pregnant 19year old Marie 'Elisabeth' Hante on 9th March 1866 at the residence of Mr Neundorf / Neindorf a farmer of Kingsbelt in the district of Gawler South Australia.

George Neundorf / Neindorf was a witness to the marriage. His grandparents were George Neindorf & a Catharina Elisabeth Menz.

 It's very probable Catharina Neundorf nee Menz was a relation of Friedrich Menz's father. 

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Marriage certificate 9th March 1866

Please Note: Information about Johann Friedrich Ephraim Menz in the South Australian Biological Index is incorrect.

The Biological Index has his parents as Friedrich Peter Menz & Maria Sophie Beelitz.

JFE Menz stated on his marriage certificate his father was Johann George Menz & his mother unnamed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wife Born: MARIE ELISABETH HANTE was born 6th November 1845 at Tucheim a village and a former municipality in the Jerichower Land district, in Saxony-Anhalt, Germany.

Father: Johann Friedrich HANTE [other spellings found Handt - Hunter]

Mother: Unnamed.

Shipping: Marie Elizabeth stated on her Naturalization papers she arrive on the ship 'Adolf' 20th February 1865. Also on the voyage were a Fritz Menz and a Frederick Menz - soon to become her husband.

Death of Johann 'Friedrich' Ephraim Menz: Friedrich died some time between his marriage in March 1866 and his wife's remarriage in February 1868.

The only death registration which fits Friedrich Menz death in SA for 1866-67 is a Friedrick Menz dying at the Adelaide Hospital South Australia on 25th August 1867. His age noted as 29yrs.  The cause of death noted as Hepatitis. No other details are given on the death certificate.

 

The Adelaide hospital admission register states this Friedrich was 30year old (this age fitting his age at marriage), occupation labourer, address Lyndoch Valley SA, religion P, born Mecklenburg Germany (Shipping list gives place as Tucheim which isn't that far from Mecklenburg), 2years 6months in the colony (fits with arrival February 1865), and marital status single?. Even though the hospital admission register states marital status as 'Single' I believe this to be my great great grandfather. His death registration must have also been fill in by an informant who knew nothing about him as most columns on the death certificate were left blank. Friedrich was buried at West Terrace Cemetery SA.

 

Below: Death Certificate Friedrich Menz 25th August 1867

 

 

Below: Adelaide Hospital Admission Register 1867

 

 

Only Child of Johann Friedrich Ephraim Menz &  Menz

1. EMMA MARIA MENZ (my great grandmother) was born 18 Jun 1866 in Kingsbelt Sth. Australia and died 04 Feb 1943 in Drouin Vic (No.5700). She married Thomas Allan Bruton 12 Jan 1885 in Sale Victoria, son of Thomas Bruton & Selina nee Bodley. He was born 08 Dec 1862 in Beaumaris Moorabbin Vic, and died 1911 in Melbourne Hospital Age 49yrs. Thomas and Maria Bruton's family: Fredrick Thomas, Allan Ephraim, Jessie Mable, Laura "Queenie", Roland Edward, Hector Rupert, Eric William, Seymour Johann 'Jack".

Clink on this link for more detailed account of the Bruton family.

 

Naturalization of Marie Elizabeth Schultz (Nee Hante & Formally Menz):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Marie 'Elizabeth' Menz Remarries : Johann Gottlieb Schultz

 

2nd Marriage: Marie 'Elizabeth' Menz was aged 21years  when she married 25year old widower Johann 'John' Gottlieb Schultz on the 20th February 1868 at Lutheren Church Schoenborn SA. John's first wife Anna Dorethea nee Nitschke died in 1867 possibly in child birth with their daughter Anna Martha Schultz who was born 1867. Anna Dorethea's parents were Gottlob Nitschke & Johanne Eleonore Hirte.

 

Johann 'John' Gottlieb Schultz was born 9th June 1843 at Bethany Sth Australia a son of German Lutherans and early Bethany South Australian settlers Johann Gottlieb Schultz Snr. & Pauline Kitta who had arrived in Australia aboard the ship "Skjold".    

 

Below: Marriage Certificate Marie Elisabeth Menz & Johann 'John' Gottlieb Schultz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John and Marie Elizabeth Schultz moved from South Australia to Cheltenham Victoria for 5 years before moving up to Gippsland living and farming at Morwell then Moe. They had four children of their own: Maria, Mary, John & Charles.

 

Death: John Gottlieb Schultz died 20th August 1907 at Elgin Street Sale aged 64years and is buried at Sale Cemetery. 

 

Death: Marie Elizabeth Schultz (formally Menz nee Hante): Died 30th August 1931 aged 84years and is buried at the Moe Cemetery.

 

Information from :

Marriage SA certificate Johann Friedrich Ephraim Menz & Marie Elisabeth Hante.

Marriage SA certificate Marie Elisabeth Menz & Johann Gottlieb Schultz

Birth certificate of daughter Emma Maria Menz

Naturalisation papers for Elizabeth (Maria) Schultz formally Menz nee Hante)

Death certificate of Marie Elisabeth Schultz

Death Certificate of John George Schultz

Adelaide Hospital admission Friedrick Menz

Death certificate Friedrick Menz

Birth & Death certificates of children

Family of Johann  'John' Gottlieb & Marie 'Elizabeth' Schultz

EMMA MARIA MENZ born 1866 South Australia (from Marie Elizabeth's first marriage)

ANNI MARTHA SCHULTZ born 26th Oct 1867 Barossa SA (from John's first marriage)

1. MARIA LYDIA SCHULTZ born 20th November 1868 Walton SA married Charles Henry Spooner Bliss at Taradale in 1891. Died at Caulfield Vic. 1951, aged 82yrs.

Family: Maude Mary, Sydney Charles, Mable 1894, Irene Elsie 1985, Edna 1900, John 1902.

 

2. MARY ELIZABETH SCHULTZ born 1871 Cheltenham Vic. married Edward James McDonough at Nth Melbourne in 1899. Died aged 57yrs 1928  Alfred Hospital Vic. James died 1915 Warrugal.

Family: Una Amy 1906, Edward James 1908, Robert Cecil 1915.

3. JOHN FRIEDRICH AUGUST SCHULTZ born 1879 Latrobe River Tangil shire Narracan Vic. died prior to 1931

4. CHARLES ALBERT SCHULTZ born 1878 Tangil Latrobe Valley Vic. died aged 94years at Long?

 The Schultz Family "BETHANY " Sth Australia

Johann Gottlieb Schultz Snr. & Pauline Kitta arrived in Sth Australia aboard the ship "Skjold". Bethany (or Bethanien as it was known before 1917) was established in 1842 and was the first village to be established in the Barrosa area by a group of German Lutherans most of whom had arrived in South Australia aboard the Skjold in 1841. 

 

Ship similar to 'The Skjold',


 

 

 

Johann Gottlieb Schultz Snr. Landholder
From a list of early residents (Landholders) adapted from the 'Acerage and Stock Returns 1844' as published in Allen's Almanac of 1844 [4,5]

Landholder
 

 
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Stock
 

 

 

 
Wheat Barley Rye Oates Peas Garden Sheep Horse Cattle Pigs Goats
Schultz, Johann Gottleib* 6 1
 

 
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3 1 4
 

Tracing my Menz family is a difficult task and if anyone has any suggestions or think they may be connected I would appreciate help in sorting out the facts. My Johann Friedrich Ephraim Menz doesn't fit with any Menz families I have had contact with in Australia. It was first thought he belonged to Peter Menz but his marriage certificate notes his father as Johann George Menz.

The Hante Family is proving just as difficult to trace any help here would also be appreciated.

 

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Links

Maria Emma (Menz) & Thomas Bruton & Family

Bethany South Australia 1st Settlement in the Barossa Valley

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