1. William Whitney Talman, Jr.: b. 4 Feb 1915 Detroit, Wayne Co., MI; D.A. Hamilton Burger on Perry Mason T.V. show; d. 30 Aug 1968 Encino, Los Angeles Co., CA


2. William Whitney Talman: b. 14 Jul 1878 Detroit, MI; V.P. of electronics company; m. 4 Feb 1913 

[Michigan: A Centennial History of the State and Its People, vol. 4 (biography), Chicago, 1939; pp. 504-505“William Whitney Talman, vice president and treasurer of the Hoskins Manufacturing Company, with offices in the David Stott Building in Detroit....Mr. Talman was born July 14, 1878, in the family home at the corner of Congress and Antoine streets in Detroit, a son of Williams [sic] Swift and Susan (Sawyer) Talman, both natives of Rochester, New York.  They were married at Rochester and came to Michigan about 1860, going first to Saginaw, where the father engaged in the salt business.  In 1865 he removed to Detroit, where he established an insurance agency, carrying on in the business until his death, at the age of fifty-six years.  His wife survived him until 1914 and had reached the age of seventy-six years when she passed away.  They had a family of five children, of whom William W. is the youngest and the only son....On the 4th of February, 1913, Mr. Talman married Miss Ada Barber, a native of Englewood, New Jersey, and a daughter of James and Catherine (Gandy) Barber.  Her father, now deceased, was engaged in the shipping business with his brother under the name of the Barber Steamship Lines.  Mrs. Talman...by her marriage has become the mother of three sons.  William Whitney Jr., born in Detroit, February 4, 1915, attended Dartmouth College and is now interested in a theater in New York City....It is interesting...to know that the grandmother of Mr. Talman in the paternal line was a descendant of Colonel Fitzhugh, who was a Revolutionary soldier and member of Washington’s staff...”]

3. Ada Barber: b. 1 Dec 1890 Englewood, Bergen Co., NJ; d. 5 Apr 1966 Los Angeles Co., CA [CADI: Ada B. Talman, mother Gandy]


4. William Swift Talman: b. c1836/8 Rochester, NY; d. age 56

5. Susanna Sawyer: b. c1838 Rochester; d. 1914

6. James Wells Barber: b. 2 Jun 1852/5 London, England; imm. 1886; d. 18 Feb 1928 Pinehurst; m. 7 May 1882 Liverpool, England  [National Cyclopaedia of American Biography, vol. 31 (1944), pp. 38-39: “Barber, James Wells, shipowner, was born in London, England, June 2, 1852.  He attended London schools until he was fifteen years of age, when he entered the service of Patton, Vickers & Co., a London shipping firm, where his older brother, Herbert Barber, was also employed.  Herbert Barber was sent to New York city in 1880 as American representative of the company and in 1883 the two brothers went into business for themselves....Barber was married in Liverpool, England, May 7, 1882, to Catherine, daughter of Thomas Gandy, a master mariner of that city, and they had seven children:...Ada, who married William W. Tallman....He died in Pinehurst, Feb. 18, 1928.” (sketch of Herbert Barber appears in vol. 35 (1949), pp. 32-33)] [brother of Herbert Barber, b. c1846/7 England, imm. 1880]  [wife left memorial “in loving memory of my beloved husband” in NY Times]  [death and career of Herbert Barber in NY Times, 17 Nov 1915, p. 11 col. 6]  [Adaline W. Sterling, The Book of Englewood (1922), p. 296: “Herbert Barber, prominent in mercantile marine circles, died on November 16th.  He was born in Deptford, England, April 21st, 1847, and came with his family to the United States in 1880, making his home in Englewood.  For several years he was the managing resident agent of the Monarch Line.  After the failure of his company, Mr. Barber, in company with his brother, James Barber, started the ship brokerage business.  This developed into the ownership of steamships doing a carrying trade to Europe and Africa, known as the Barber Line....In his memory the large west window of St. Paul’s was later erected by James Barber.”]

7. Catherine Gandy/Gandey: b. Sep 1864 England


8. John Thurston Talman: b. c1793; d. 12 Feb 1850; bur. Mt. Hope Cemetery, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY; m. 25 May 1831 Hampton, near Geneva, Livingston Co., NY

9. Mary Eleanor Fitzhugh: b. c1809 MD; d. 4 Nov 1892; bur. Mt. Hope Cemetery

10. James W. Sawyer: b. 11 Sep 1803/5 Surry, Cheshire Co., NH; d. 29 Aug 1876 Rochester, Monroe Co., NY (in his 72nd year) [from Rochester Democrat & Chronicle, 1 Sep 1876; at https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/th/read/NYMONROE/2001-05/0989556353]; bur. Mt. Hope Cemetery, Rochester [https://sites.rootsweb.com/~nymonroe/cem/mthope-s.htm - NOTE – besides his wife, there was also a Sarah Sawyer, relict of Samuel, d. 3 May 1848 age 74, buried there; perhaps #10’s mother; also, the only Sawyer family in Surry, NH, in 1810, was that of Saml. Sawyer]

11. Margaret Caldwell: b. 11 Oct 1810 Scotland; d. 12 Jan 1869; bur. Mt. Hope Cemetery  [according to submitted IGI, b. 11 Oct 1810, bp. 28 Oct 1810 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland, dau. of John Caldwell and Susan Caldwell[sic].  From extracted IGI (FHL #1,041,284) John Caldwell m. Susanna Caldwell 3 Oct 1802 in Middle Church, Paisley; extracted IGI for births/baptisms in that church doesn’t go back far enough]

14. Thomas Gandy: of Liverpool; master mariner


16. Dr. John Talman: b. c1762; d. 10 Aug 1834 Hudson, NY

17. Heroine Jenkins: b. c1776; d. 11 Mar 1836; bur. Mt. Hope Cemetery, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY

18. Col. William (Frisby) Fitzhugh: b. 6 Oct 1761 Rousby Hall, Cecil Co., MD; d. 28 Dec 1839 Hampton, Livingston Co., NY

19. Anne Hughes: b. 1 Apr 1771 Washington, DC; d. 22 Mar 1829 Livingston Co., NY

20. (prob.) Samuel Sawyer: bp. 19 Apr 1767 Haverhill, Essex Co., MA; d. bef. 3 May 1848; m. 7 May 1793 Alstead, Cheshire Co., NH  http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lundstedt-1951&id=I27828

21. (prob.) Sarah Wheelock: b. c1773; d. 3 May 1848; bur. Mt. Hope Cemetery, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY


36. William Fitzhugh: b. 1721; d. 1798; m. (2nd) 7 Jan 1752

37. Ann Peregrine (nee Frisby) Rousby: b. 1727; d. 1793


72. George Fitzhugh: b. 1690; of Stafford; member House of Burgesses; d. 1722

73. Mary Mason: b. c1700


144. Col. William Fitzhugh:

145. Sarah Tucker:

146. Col. George Mason II: b. 1660; of Stafford; will dated 1715; d. 1716; m. (1st) 1688

147. Mary Fowke:


292. George Mason: bp. 10 Jun 1629 Pershore, Worcestershire, England; d. 1686 Stafford Co., VA; m. 1658

293. Mary French:

294. Gerard Fowke:

295. Ann Thorogood:



1930 – 17th Ward, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI, e.d. 564, sheet 5a

Tallman, William W.     Head    M W 51 M 34 MI NY NY      Vice President Electric C--

___, Ada B.                 Wife     F W 38 M 22   NJ Eng Eng

___, William W.           Son      M W 15 S        MI MI NJ

___, James B.              Son      M W 13 S        MI MI NJ

___, Thomas S.            Son      M W 10 S        MI MI NJ

(4 servants)


1920 – 17th Ward, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI, e.d. 527, sheet 17b

Talman, William            Head    M W 46 M      MI NY NY      Manufacturer Electrical Co.

___, Ada B.                 Wife     F W 29 M        NJ England England

___, William Jr.            Son      M W 5 S          MI MI NJ

___, James                   Son      M W 3 S          MI MI NJ

(3 servants)


1910 – 1st Ward, Englewood, Bergen Co., NJ, e.d. 10, sheet 10a

Barber, James W.         Head    M W 50 M 26             Eng Eng Eng 1886 Na Ship Broker

___, Katherine             Wife     F W 47 M 26 7 7         Eng Eng Eng 1886 Na

___, Edward J.             Son      M W 23 S                    Eng Eng Eng     Clerk

___, Marion E.             Dau      F W 22 S                     NJ Eng Eng

___, Getrude                Dau      F W 20 S                     NJ Eng Eng

___, Ada L.                 Dau      F W 19 S                     NJ Eng Eng

___, Louise E.              Dau      F W 17 S                     NJ Eng Eng

___, Florence               Dau      F W 16 S                     NJ Eng Eng

___, Dorothy K.           Dau      F W 9 S                       NJ Eng Eng

(4 servants)


1900 – 1st Ward, Englewood, Bergen Co., NJ, e.d. 10, sheet 13b

Barber, James              Head    W M Jun 1855 44 M 16          Eng Eng Eng 1886 14 Na Shipping Agent

___, Katherine             Wife     W F Sep 1864 35 M 16 6 6     Eng Eng Eng 1886 14

___, Edward J.             Son      W M Mar 1887 13 S               Eng Eng Eng 1887 13

___, Mary E.                Dau      W F Apr 1888 12 S                 NJ Eng Eng

___, Gertrude               Dau      W F Nov 1889 10 S                NJ Eng Eng

___, Ada L.                 Dau      W F Dec 1891 8 S                   NJ Eng Eng

___, Louise                  Dau      W F Oct 1892 7 S                   NJ Eng Eng

___, Florence               Dau      W F Dec 1894 5 S                   NJ Eng Eng

(2 servants)


1880 – 3rd Ward, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI, e.d. 272, sheets 7-8 (pp. 18c-d)

Tallman, William           W M 42                       Insurance Fire   NY MD NY

___, Susanna                W F 40            Wife                             NY NH Scot

___, Margaret              W F 18            Dau                              MI NY NY

Tallman, Mary              W F 16            Dau                              MI NY NY

___, Bessie                  W F 13            Dau                              MI NY NY

___, William Jr.            W M 1             Son                              MI NY NY

___, Susie                    W F 1              Dau                              MI NY NY

(2 servants)


1850 – 3rd Ward, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY, p. 192

Mary E. Talman            41 F                                         20000  MD

Wm. S.                       14 M                                                    NY

Ann H.                        9 F                                                       NY

Robert F.                    7 M                                                      NY

Rebecca F.                  5 F                                                       NY

Herione J.                    60 M                                                    NY

(several boarders/servants)


1850 – 1st Ward, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY, p. 52

James W. Sawyer         45 M    Merchant                      75000  NH

Margaret                     39 F                                                     Scotland

Georgiana                    19 F                                                     NY

Margaret                     15 F                                                     NY

Susannah                     11 F                                                     NY

Honora McGary           26 F                                                     Ireland

Catharine McManus     21 F                                                     Ireland

Matthew Quigly            19 M    Laborer                                    Ireland