Eleventh Generation (Continued)
1179 Maria Elisabetha Held.666,852,955,755 Born on 19 Nov 1686 in Balingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany. Maria Elisabetha died in Balingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 28 Aug 1716; she was 29.

Ancestral File number: QGHD-S2

1182 Johann Jakob Habfast.739,852,755 Born on 18 Feb 1665 in Balingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany. Johann Jakob died in Balingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 29 Jun 1737; he was 72. Occupation: Metzger und Bierseider in Balingen.

Ancestral File number: QGGV-N6

He married Anna Katharina Ergenzinger755,852 abt 1693 in Balingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.

They had the following children:
i. Johann Georg (3)740,755 (1696-)
ii. Eberhard740,755 (1701-)
iii. Anna Katharina740,755 (1702-1780)
iv. Maria Magdalena740,755 (1705-)
v. Johannes (2)740 (1707-)
591 vi. Sophia Susanna (1708-1763)
vii. Anna Barbara (2)740,755 (1709-1768)
viii. Johann Georg (4)740,755 (1711-)
ix. Anna Elisabeth740,755 (1716-1806)

1183 Anna Katharina Ergenzinger.755,852 Born on 8 Jun 1673 in Balingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany. Anna Katharina died in Balingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 8 Sep 1743; she was 70.

Ancestral File number: QGGV-PC

1184 Caspar Jaeger.662,657 Born on 14 Aug 1681 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.660 Caspar died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 16 Apr 1721; he was 39.660 suicide.

Occupation: Sonninwirth (Proprietor of the inn at the sign of the
sun).
His father was also the proprietor before him; 1704 - Beerbrewer

Death - his name is crossed out on his birth record and on the birth
records of children. His death not recorded in death register, only on his birth record. A paragraph in birth record indicates a "horrible thing" happened.

Lisbeth Zahawi helped with the translation of the following:

Hoc horrendum patiavit
factum d[en] 16. Apr[il] 1721?
Caspar, diser hat sich ....
mit einem Stich in die Kehle, hernach
mit einer Flinthen an d[en] untern
Kifer gesetzt erschossen und als[o] selbst
....... da er meistentheils die
Zeit seines Lebens..... der schËandlich
und verderblichen [Er?]otia zugebracht
.... Ëuberalda von ihm [Kindbet ???] war
............. ex Vtro vita.. it
.......

Apparently, Caspar ended his "disgraceful and corrupt life" by
stabbing himself in the throat and then putting a rifle to his lower
jaw. This was a suicide, and as such was considered a mortal sin in
those days. The person would not have been given a Christian burial.
Therefore, his name would not appear in the death record.

I cannot find any hint in the church records of Rosenfeld as to what drove
Caspar Jaeger to take his own life. However, in the civil records is the following:

Ohne Datum finden wir wenig später: "Große
Klage betrifft Biersieder Jäger "Luderwürthauß".
Um schnöden Gewinnes willen
lasse er alles zu, was Gott und eine hochfürstliche
Kirchenordnung verboten hätten. Alldort
würden viel tausend Flüche gehört, ohne jegliches
Rügen, Dekretiert wird, daß deswegen
eine Schwörbüchse zu eröffnen sei. (Randbemerkung:
ist aber niemalen was darein gefunden
worden) Zu allein kommt noch des Wirtes
skandalöses Aus- und Einfahren vor der Predigt.
Er entschuldigt sich mit den Soldaten.
Die Sach wird verschoben".1017

Per Lisbeth Zahawi:

In the above passage we hear that Hans Ulrich Jaeger was also a beer brewer and that his establishment had a very bad reputation. For financial gain he allowed anything forbidden by God or the law. Swearing was so rife that he was ordered to put up a tin in which people had to put money for their swear words ( Comment: there was never anything in it). There was also his scandalous behaviour of “leaving and coming back” before the sermon.

As to the term Luderwürthauß : Luder nowadays is a bad insult but for women only, something like bitch. There is also a verb “verludern lassen” meaning letting things go to ruin. Whatever it meant at the time and in Balingen, it was not good.

Würdt nicht gehalten : The verb halten here means “keep, observe” as in keeping a promise, an oath, an order, a law. It has nothing to do with halting or stopping.”
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Note:
Caspar Jaeger, son of Hans Ulrich Jaeger, also owned the same tavern. The above paragraph may go a long way toward explaining Caspar’s suicide in 1721.

He married Lucia Saemann657 on 30 Jan 1700 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.513

They had the following children:
i. Anna Maria (3)662 (1702-1746)
ii. Hans Ulrich662 (1704-1707)
iii. Johanna (2)516 (1706-)
iv. Anna Barbara516 (1708-)
v. Maria Catharina (2)516 (1709-)
vi. Caspar (3) (1713-1765)
592 vii. Johann Jakob (5) (1715-1763)
viii. Maria Agatha516 (1719-)

1185 Lucia Saemann.657 Born abt 1675 in Taebingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.

1186 Johann Friderich Dorner.660,657 Born on 11 Jan 1678 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.660 Johann Friderich died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, bef 16 Nov 1734; he was 56.513

Occupation: Buergermeister (town mayor) and Lammwirth ( Proprietor of
an inn at the sign of the lamb)

He married Anna Maria Saemann657 on 3 Oct 1699 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.513

They had the following children:
i. Jorg Friderich662 (1700-1702)
ii. Jorg Friderich (2)660 (1702-)
iii. Anna Catharina1018,516 (1704-)
604 iv. Johann Jacob (3) (1707-1738)
v. Georg Friderich (2)516 (1708-)
vi. Leonhardt516 (1711-<1720)
vii. Maria Magdalena516,513 (1713-)
viii. Maria Salome516 (1713-)
ix. Anna Maria (3)660,513 (1716-)
593 x. Anna Barbara (2) (1718-1763)
xi. Leonhard660 (1720-)
xii. Johann Friderich (3)516 (1724-)

1187 Anna Maria Saemann.657 Born abt 1679 in Taebingen, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.

1188 Hans Conrad Schutter.662 Born on 3 May 1683 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.660 Hans Conrad died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 30 May 1764; he was 81.513

Occupation: Riethmueller (swamp land miller)

He married Anna Maria Mueller516,657 on 21 Feb 1702 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.513

They had the following children:
i. Hans Conrad (2)516 (1703-)
594 ii. Johann Martin (1704-1744)
iii. Anna Maria516,513 (1705-)

1189 Anna Maria Mueller.516,657 Born on 18 Apr 1681 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.

1190 Caspar Harttmann.1019 Born in Mar 1672.513 Caspar died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 27 May 1761; he was 89.513 age 89 years, 2 months.

Burgermeister und Rothgerber (town mayor and red tanner)

He married Maria (2) Mueller657 on 14 Jun 1697 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.957

They had the following children:
i. Maria Elisabetha662,513 (1698-1763)
ii. Anna Maria516 (1699-)
iii. Anna Barbara516 (1701-)
iv. Susanna516 (1702-<1706)
v. Eberhardt516 (1703-<1705)
vi. Eberhardt (2)516 (1705-1705)
605 vii. Susanna (2) (1706-1735)
viii. Maria Salome662 (1709-<1712)
ix. Caspar (2)516 (1710-)
x. Maria Salome (2) (1712-1745)
595 xi. Maria Catharina (1716-)

1191 Maria (2) Mueller.657 Born on 25 Sep 1677 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.660

1192 Johann Heinrich (3) Arnold.513

Child:
596 i. Johann Heinrich (2) (~1690-<1738)

1194 Christoph Tafel.513,1020 Born on 18 Oct 1650 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.660 Christoph died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 5 Feb 1728; he was 77.513 Occupation: Schufer (cobbler) and Gerichtsmann (member of the town council).513

He married Anna Maria (12) ???1021 abt 1684.

They had the following children:
i. Ursula516 (1685-1686)
597 ii. Anna Catharina (1687-1722)
iii. Christoph (3)660 (1689-1690)
iv. Eva Maria516 (1691-1695)
v. Hans Ludwig516 (1694-)
vi. Christoph (4)661 (1697-1697)

1195 Anna Maria (12) ???1021 Born in Oct 1649. Anna Maria (12) died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 6 Jun 1697; she was 47.513 age 47 years 31 weeks.

1196 Karl Mueller. Born abt 1660.

occupation: Beck (baker)

Child:
598 i. Martin (~1690-)

1198 Michael Keckh. Born abt 1655.

Occupation: Weissgerber (tanner of fine leather) and
Gerichtsverwandter (lay member of court)

He married Catharina (2) ??? abt 1681.

They had the following children:
i. Agnes516 (1682-1687)
ii. Anna Maria516 (1684-1689)
iii. Catharina516 (1687-)
iv. Agnes (2)516 (1689-)
v. Anna Maria (2)662 (1691-1750)
vi. Hans Michael516 (1693-1693)
vii. Michael (2)516 (1694-)
599 viii. Anna Margaretha (1696-1727)
ix. Johanna1022,516 (1700-1784)

1199 Catharina (2) ??? Born abt 1655.

1200 Sebastian (6) Stotz.660,659 Born on 26 Jul 1644 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.660 Sebastian (6) died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 3 Jul 1728; he was 83.660 on birth record. Occupation: Zimmermann (carpenter).

Death recorded on birth record only.
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I looked through the church films, but I don't think I am any closer to solving the problem of the paternal ancestors of Sebastian Stotz (1644-1728).

The Rosenfeld Family Register has the following: Eltern (parents of) Sebastian Stotz b. 26.7.1644:
 Hans Martin Stotz m. 28 Aug 1638  + (died) 22.10.1662, age 49 [born abt. 1613]
 Maria Renner                               + (died) 15 Jun 1682, age 82 [born abt. 1600]

The register information appears to have been added some time after the date of the original entries, and is in a different script.

First of all, Maria Renner would have been 13 years older than Hans Martin Stotz. Secondly, she would have had Sebastian when she was 44 years old, not unheard of, but it would be very unusual.

I found the marriage of 28 Aug 1638. In that marriage it does state that the father of Hans Martin is Pancratius Stotz, and that Pancratius is deceased. 

I do agree that Pancratius Stotz is deceased, as he died 9 Oct 1635.

However, in the early records I could not find the birth of Hans Martin Stotz, or even just Martin Stotz, with a father Pancratius Stotz. I searched from 1600-1625. The only ones I found were these three:

Martin Stotz b. 15 Aug 1617 to Georg Stotz and Anna
Martin Stotz b. 17 Mar 1617 to Jacob Stotz and Ursula
Martin Stotz b. 4 Feb 1612 to Stoffel (Christophorus) Stotz and Anna.

Martin Stotz, b. 4 Feb 1612, married Anna Ruoff, 11 Nov 1638. He died 4 Jan 1644, shot by cavalry men. He had 3 children, none of which was a Sebastian. I looked for a possible additional child, named Sebastian, born after his death, but I found none.

I have no further information on Martin Stotz, b. 17 Mar 1617. He may have died young, but there are no death records before 1629, and his death is not recorded on his baptism record. He may also be the Hans Martin Stotz, above, who marries in 1638, but then the father is in error, being Jacob, and not Pancratius.

If the father is Jacob Stotz, the trail runs cold at that point, as I can't link him back to Martin Stotz, b. 1540.

In the same year, there is the Martin Stotz, b. 15 Aug 1617. He may have died young, but there are no death records before 1629, and his death is not recorded on his baptism record. He may also be the Hans Martin Stotz, above, who marries in 1638, but then the father is in error, being Georg, and not Pancratius.

At the moment, unless some other information comes to light, I am going with Georg as the father of Martin (Hans Martin) Stotz.

I will make a copy of these notes and keep them with my file. LKB

He married Barbara Mueller660,659 abt 1679 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.

They had the following children:
i. Hans Jorg (2)660,513 (1680-1766)
ii. Hans Martin660,513 (1683-1750)
600 iii. Sebastian (5) (1685-1764)
iv. Conrad660 (1688-1760)
v. Susanna661 (~1690-~1691)

1201 Barbara Mueller.660,659 Born on 21 Feb 1647 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.660 Barbara died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 2 May 1723; she was 76.660 on birth record.

Her surname is recorded on the family register page 202 for Johann Martin Stotz (1760-1838).

1202 Hans Jorg Mohr.660 Born in Dec 1653 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.513 Hans Jorg died in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on 7 Apr 1737; he was 83.513 age 84 years, 4 months. Occupation: Ferber (dyer).

He married Maria Salome Braun660 on 26 May 1685 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.513

They had the following children:
601 i. Anna Barbara (1687-1772)
ii. Hans Jorg (2)660 (1690-)
iii. Maria Margaretha660 (1693-1694)
iv. Gabriel660 (1694-1695)
v. Christoph Eberhard660,513 (1694-)

1203 Maria Salome Braun.660 Maria Salome died on 11 Mar 1728 in Rosenfeld, Schwarzwald, Wuerttemberg, Germany.513 age 52 years, 5 months.

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