As a researcher of the British 41st Regiment of Foot of which my 4th Great
Grandfather was a member for 18 years (15 in Canada 1799-1815), I have
found many members that deserted and more than likely settled in the US.
Many of the men were captured in the War of 1812 and the Americans actively
offered bounties to these men to desert. Also, at the end of this
page is a list I found of men who applied to settle in Canada after the
War of 1812 who served with the 41st Regiment of Foot. There are
others who settled in Canada after the War of 1812, William Molesworth,
who was discharged in Ireland in 1817 and came back to join his family
and settled in Perth, Lanark County, Ontario & James Worthington, who
was discharged in 1823 in Madras, India and made his way back to Chippawa,
Ontario.
These men were professional soldiers and signed up for a minimum of 5 years,
well trained and drilled, not like the former laborers, shopkeepers, etc.
that made up the American Army in the beginning of the War. One man
that I found that died while in service of the 41st Regiment was 64 years
old! Some had even fought for the British Army in the American Revolution
30 years before.
Did they then enlist in the American Army after desertion? Did they
get land grants as incentives? I don't know. That is for other
geneologist to find out. This list is simply a ways and means to
find the ancestor that you have been unable to find his arrival in the
United States or Canada. Couldn't find his name on a passenger list?
No wonder, it wouldn't be something bragged about to the grandkids.
On the date of desertion, if it is late 1814, this more than likely was
when they were released from Prison Camp. A soldier had quite a bit
of time in prison and then the long walk to Canada to decide if they wanted
the life of a soldier for the rest of their life or a new lease on life.
An officer of the 41st, (John Richardson) told the tale of when he was
touring the midwest later in life, meeting a former British soldier that
simply walked away and now owned a small store in Ohio. Almost all
of these men were held either in Greenbush, New York or in Chillicothe,
Ohio.
If there is no date of capture then the man simply walked away from where
ever he was posted. 85% of these men also had only been in the British
Army for 2-3 years with 27 that had been in over 10 years.
This site
also stands as notice that I'm looking for any information on soldiers
who served in the 41st Regiment of Foot while in the Canadas. Be
careful in the spelling as some names on the muster lists are spelled differently
from time to time, i.e. Stewart, Stuart or Skelton, Sheldon, Shelton.
Name | Date of Capture | Battle | Date of desertion |
Adcock, Thomas | October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 24, 1814 |
Andrews, John | September 27, 1813 | ||
Arbury, Robert | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 16, 1814 |
Asbury, Robert | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 14, 1814 |
Aubin, John | May 27, 1812 | ||
Ayres, George | September 27, 1813 | ||
Barrett, Robert | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | August 15, 1814 |
Barter, Noah | October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 24, 1814 |
Bayley, James | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 5, 1813 |
Beagan, Francis | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | November 7, 1813 |
Bendix, John | June 26, 1813 | ||
Bennett, George | August 2, 1813 | Ft. Stephenson | August 24, 1813 |
Bennett, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 24, 1814 |
Birthwistle, Mathew | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 20, 1814 |
Bodman, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | April 14, 1814 |
Bostock, James
listed below, so must have returned |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | February 11, 1814 |
Bowden, Thomas | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 23, 1814 |
Bray, Thomas | November 8, 1813 | ||
Brierly, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 23, 1814 |
Broil, Michael | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 23, 1814 |
Brown, William
captured at age 16 from Bradford, Wiltshire |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 23, 1813 |
Buckley, Benjamin
enlisted December 29, 1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | April 17, 1814 |
Buckley, Cornelius
enlisted June 4, 1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 17, 1814 |
Buffey, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 17, 1814 |
Bulfin, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | February 11, 1814 |
Bullock, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 8, 1814 |
Burrows, Thomas | May 27, 1813 | Ft. George | June 24, 1813 |
Burton, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 17, 1814 |
Butter, Joseph | September 28, 1811 | ||
Camm, John
enlisted October 24, 1804 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 6, 1814 |
Casey, William | October 25, 1799 | ||
Chapman, John
from Lewannick, Cornwall |
September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | October 24, 1814 |
Ching, William | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 5, 1813 |
Clapton, Samuel | October 5, 1813 | Thames | May 14, 1814 |
Clarke, Noah | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | October 18, 1814 |
Cliff, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 24, 1814 |
Collins, John
enlisted 1798-1799 |
September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | August 13, 1814 |
Collins, Thomas | October 4, 1814 | ||
Colohan, Thomas
enlisted April 10, 1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 24, 1814 |
Connop, James | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 15, 1814 |
Cooling, Thomas | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | June 26, 1814 |
Cottle, Daniel | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 6, 1813 |
Cummins, Thomas
from Atlow, Derbyshire |
September 17, 1813 | ||
Curtis, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | April 28, 1814 |
Davidson, Elias | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 18, 1813 |
Dear, John | November 24, 1814 | ||
Dickman, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 24, 1813 |
Dogherty, James | October 25, 1799 | ||
Donohue, Hugh | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Dowland, Hugh | summer of 1813 | August 24, 1814 | |
Dukes, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 17, 1814 |
Dunn, Thomas | August 2, 1813 | Ft. Stevenson | March 1, 1814 |
Easterbrook, John (Cpl.)
enlisted January 6, 1799 wifes name is Julia, daughters Grace born in Montreal May 5, 1801 and Harriet born at Ft. George January 10, 1808. |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Emery, James | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Evatt, John | May 20, 1812 | ||
Farrell, John | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 25, 1814 |
Faulkner, John
enlisted August 20, 1798 |
September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 26, 1814 |
Fitzgerald, John
enlisted November 3, 1805 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | April 24, 1814 |
Fletcher, William | September 27, 1813 | ||
Fox, William (drummer)
from Montreal, Canada |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 24, 1813 |
Gingle, George | September 28, 1811 | ||
Glanville, James | October 5, 1813 | Thames | April 24, 1814 |
Goddard, Isaac | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | September 24, 1814 |
Godwin, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | December 24, 1813 |
Graves, Thomas | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 18, 1814 |
Green, David
enlisted 1798-1799 |
September 10, 1813
wounded and captured aboard the "Detroit" |
Lake Erie | July 24, 1814 |
Green, Edward | October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 24, 1814 |
Gregson, George | May 27, 1812 | ||
Groce, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | April 26, 1814 |
Hall, Jacob | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | October 24, 1814 |
Hamm, Thomas
enlisted 1798-1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Hardy, Jacob | October 5, 1813 | Thames | February 27, 1814 |
Hare, Patrick
enlisted 1798-1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Harris, Thomas
from Gwennap, Cornwall |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 17, 1813 |
Hastings, James | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 17, 1814 |
Henderson, David (Cpl.)
enlisted March 2, 1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 15, 1813 |
Higgins, James | August 2, 1813 | Ft. Stevenson | October 27, 1813 |
Hill, Robert | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 26, 1813 |
Holt, Cornelius | January 3, 1813 | ||
Hopping, Joseph | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Hornby, John | May 27, 1813 | ||
House, Richard (drummer)
enlisted 1798-1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 24, 1813 |
Jones, Thomas
from Fohey, Cornwall |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 5, 1814 |
Kemp, John
enlisted 1798-1799 married Penelope Mobbs June 7, 1807 in Sandwich, Ontario |
May 27, 1813 | Ft. George | June 24, 1813 |
Kettlewell, Joseph | August 2, 1813 | Ft. Stevenson | August 24, 1813 |
King, William
enlisted October 25, 1799 from Dunfield, Wiltshire |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 26, 1814 |
Lambourne, Thomas
captured just after 16th birthday |
May 27, 1813 | Ft. George | June 24, 1813 |
Lucas, John | August 2, 1813 | Ft. Stevenson | August 24, 1813 |
Lynsky, Michael
enlisted 1798-1799 |
August 2, 1813 | Ft. Stevenson | May 19, 1814 |
Lyster, William | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 9, 1814 |
Maddox, William | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 9, 1814 |
Mahoney, Daniel
enlisted June 4, 1799 |
June 18, 1813 | ||
Marlow, Patrick | summer of 1813 | August 24, 1814 | |
Marter, Charles | May 27, 1812 | ||
Mathews, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 31, 1814 |
Mathews, William
enlisted October 25, 1799 from Rowde, Wiltshire |
September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | October 31, 1814 |
McBean, James
enlisted 1798-1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
McCall, Edward
enlisted April 16, 1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 17, 1813 |
McCullock, Alexander (Cpl.) | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 15, 1813 |
Meach, George | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 17, 1814 |
Miles, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 25, 1814 |
Minchin, William | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 17, 1814 |
Murphy, Patrick | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 6, 1814 |
Myers, Michael Christopher | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | May 7, 1814 |
Newton, James
enlisted 1798-1799, some confusion in muster lists if actually deserted |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | December 12, 1813 |
Norris, John
from Corsham, Wiltshire |
September 10, 1813
(slightly wounded) |
Lake Erie | August 1, 1814 |
Nowland, James | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 23, 1814 |
O'Conner, Cornelius | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 9, 1814 |
Oldfield, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1814 |
O'Neal, Felix
enlisted April 3, 1799 |
September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 25, 1814 |
Ostles, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 25, 1814 |
Payne, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 18, 1814 |
Phillimore, Robert | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 24, 1813 |
Pimlett, Joseph | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | November 24, 1813 |
Plummer, William | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie (aboard "Detroit) | December 24, 1813 |
Power, John
enlisted January 24, 1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 18, 1814 |
Regan, Edward | May 27, 1813 | Ft. George | June 24, 1813 |
Ross, John (drummer) | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Rummell, William | October 5, 1813 | Thames | April 12, 1814 |
Sanders, James
from Wolverhampton, Staffordshire |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 16, 1813 |
Sanders, James
from Leadsmith of St. Lawrence, Somerset |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Sanders, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | December 24, 1813 |
Scott, John
from Wolverhampton, Staffordshire |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 24, 1814 |
Scully, Michael | May 28, 1813 | ||
Sharp, Thomas
enlisted 1798-1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 14, 1814 |
Sheals, John | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | November 23, 1813 |
Sheehan, Patrick
enlisted 1798-1799 |
September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | November 24, 1813 |
Sheldon, William | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | October 18, 1814 |
Shephard, Henry | October 5, 1813 | Thames | February 26, 1814 |
Shepway, Joseph | July 11, 1813 | Black Rock, New York | July 24, 1813 |
Siddons, William | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 23, 1814 |
Skelton, Joseph | October 5, 1813 | Thames | April 27, 1814 |
Southern, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 20, 1813 |
Stacy, Giles | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 10, 1813 |
Staight, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 11, 1814 |
Stanning, James | October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 29, 1814 |
Stayner, Thomas | May 27, 1813 | Ft. George | June 24, 1813 |
Stevens, James | October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 6, 1814 |
Stewart, Levi
enlisted October 25, 1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 28, 1814 |
Taylor, George | October 5, 1813 | Thames | December 24, 1813 |
Taylor, George | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 23, 1814 |
Thomas, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 24, 1814 |
Thomas, Thomas | February 12, 1813 | ||
Thompson, William | (while posted Ft. Niagara, NY) | August 27, 1814 | |
Toole, Michael | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | November 24, 1813 |
Toomer, Thomas | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 14, 1814 |
Tracey, Peter | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | October 4, 1813 |
Trollop, John (Sgt.) | August 2, 1813 | Ft. Stevenson | August 24, 1813 |
Trump, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 2, 1814 |
Tull, Solomon | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 18, 1813 |
Uncles, James
captured at 17 years old |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 24, 1814 |
Vickers, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 16, 1813 |
Watts, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 24, 1814 |
Watts, Samuel
from Libury, Shropshire? |
September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | November 7, 1813 |
Watts, Samuel
from Westbury, Wiltshire |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | September 24, 1814 |
Watts, Thomas | September 28, 1811 | ||
Webb, Robert | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Webber, Thomas | July 4, 1813 | ||
West, John
enlisted October 25, 1799 |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | July 24, 1814 |
Weston, Stephan | June 14, 1813 | ||
Westwood, Joseph | October 5, 1813 | Thames | March 3, 1814 |
Wethersby, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 13, 1814 |
Whalley, John | June 14, 1813 | ||
Whitefield, Samuel | May 27, 1812 | ||
Whitehead, John | October 5, 1813 | Thames | February 11, 1814 |
Whitehouse, Benjamin | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | September 24, 1814 |
Whitehouse, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | October 24, 1813 |
Whitely, John
enlisted February 9, 1800 |
September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie (aboard "Hunter") | October 7, 1814 |
Wild, Adam | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | August 23, 1814 |
Wilkinson, William (drummer) | November 24, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Williams, Edward | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 17, 1814 |
Willis, Joseph | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 23, 1814 |
Willis, Richard | October 5, 1813 | Thames | February 9, 1814 |
Wilmot, Robert
wife Lucy died at Ft. George and buried July 17, 1809. |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 23, 1814 |
Windale, Zachariah | September 10, 1813 | Lake Erie | July 23, 1814 |
Wood, John
from St. John's, Cornwall |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 17, 1813 |
Woodcock, William | October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 4, 1814 |
Wormold, Joseph | October 5, 1813 | Thames | November 24, 1813 |
Wright, Joseph
from Dudley, Worcester |
October 5, 1813 | Thames | August 15, 1814 |
Settlers
The
following is a list of men of the 41st Regiment of Foot who wished to come
to the Canadas with former Captain Adam Charles Muir to settle. I
don't know the date but it originated in Londonderry, Ireland where the
Regiment was posted from June 1818 until August 1820 when it was sent to
Scotland. These men were all short timers, with less than
10 years in service with the 41st Regiment. Some of the names I could
not find on the muster list so they either joined after the War of 1812,
or they went by a different given name than what is on the muster list.
The "address" is, I would guess, either where they were from when they
originally enlisted or where they could be reached. This document
is very hard to read so some of the addresses I could not interpret to
a modern map of England
document
from the Canadian National Archives
Name | Rank | Address |
Alder, Richard | Private | King's Stanty, near Stroud Water, near Leister, Gloucester |
Bailey, Thomas | Private | Freers Green, Warrington, Lancaster |
Bales, James (married)
can't find him on muster rolls |
Private | Longford Lane, Warrington, Lancaster |
Bostock, James (married)
listed as deserted above, must have returned |
Private | Sandwich, Cheshire, Chester |
Boys, Thomas | Private | Church Ellen, near Chippenham, Wiltshire, England |
Brooks, Jonathan | Private | Brickfield near Worster, Worster |
Brown, Joseph (married) | Private | Closes St., Manchester, Lancaster |
Browning, Peter | Sgt. | Stroud, Cloucester |
Clarke, Nicholas (married with 2 children) | Cpl. | Carronton, Dowlick, Meath, Ireland |
Cole, Charles (married) | Private | Derry Hill, near Chippenham, Wiltshire |
Cook, William | Private | Queen St., Kidderminster, Worster |
Daniels, William (married) | Private | Chipping Sodbury Post Office, Gloucester |
Dinor, John | Private | Devon |
Eaton, Richard (married)
can't find him on muster rolls |
Private | Londonerry, Ireland |
Edwards, James | Private | Hamford, Somerset |
Elliot, Henry | Private | Uley, Gloucester |
Evans, John
can't find him on muster rolls |
Private | Newton, Meath near New Cashier, Stafford |
Fletcher, William (married)
not same man who deserted above |
Private | Stroud Water, Gloucester |
Freeling, Thomas | Private | Wiltshire, England |
Gough, Alexander | Private | Poy St., Hereford |
Green, James
can't find him on muster rolls |
Private | 41 Port St., Manchester, Lancaster |
Groves, Jonathan | Private | Mill St., Kidderminster, Worster |
Hay, Thomas
can't find him on muster rolls |
Cpl. | #6 Church St., St. Stephens Burough, London, Middlesex |
Healy, Thomas | Private | Great Brook, near Birmingham, Warwickshire |
Holding, Charles | Private | Waggan, Lancaster |
Hunt, Richard | Cpl. | Stroud, Gloucester |
Jacket, William (married) | Private | St. Minver, Cornwall |
Jenkinson, Aaron
wounded and captured during assault on Ft. Erie August 15, 1814 |
Sgt. | Eaton Lane, near Stockford, Lancaster |
Kent, James | Private | Chipping Sodbury, near Bristol, Gloucester |
Kent, Joseph (married)
can't find him on muster rolls |
Private | Chipping Sodbury Post Office, Gloucester |
Kilminster, Richard | Private | Wiltshire |
Knight, William | Private | Coultey, Gloucester |
Lamb, Thomas
Wounded at Battle of Conjocta Creek, New York August 3, 1814 |
Private | Coach & Horses, Catherine's Parish, Gloucester, Gloucester |
Lee, William | Private | Brenton on Trent, Stafford |
Leslie, James (married) | Sgt. | Fourig by Huntley, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland |
Lousley, Joseph
spelled Loosely in muster rolls |
Private | Oxford Lane, Great Marton, Lancanshire |
Maund, William | Private | Minters St., ? John's, Wereford, Wereford |
McBellamy, Jonathan
can't find in the muster rolls |
Private | Brigford Abbey, Landford, Ireland |
Miles, William
can't find in the muster rolls |
Private | Lasiter, Hereford |
Moyle, William (married with 1 child) | Private | Marshbrond, Hereford |
Palmer, William | Private | Ullensridge, Gloucester |
Percival, Edward | Private | Duke St., Chester, Chester |
Pritchard, George (married) | Private | Found Hope, Wereford |
Robinson, Daniel
wounded in the assault on Ft. Erie August 15, 1814 |
Private | Wood St., Ashton-Underline, Lancaster |
Rooke, Abraham | Private | Upham, Hampshire |
Sanger, George | Private | Dedwin St., Salisbury, Wilsthire |
Scrouse, Robert | Private | Choulden, near Bristol, Somerset |
Shephard, John (married with 2 children) | Private | Stogursey, near Bridgewater, Somerset |
Smith, Thomas (married)
not same man as above in desertion list |
Private | Valentimeal, near Stroud, Gloucester |
Strickland, Peter | Private | Blandford, Dorset |
Strong, Thomas | Private | Eastings Lane, Westgate, Exeter, Devon |
Waters, Michael
can't find in the muster rolls |
Private | Durrough, Kilkenny, Ireland |
Whitehouse, Joseph | Private | Park St., Walsall, Stafford |
Williams, David | Private | Southwest Radner, Wales |
Williamson, William | Private | #6, Eagles Rarely Row, Stockport, Chester |
Wright, Richard | Private | Longburly, Northhampton, Northhampshire |