Subject: Roberts Family Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:38:00 -0500 From: "Charles Sanders" <[email protected]> To: Charlotte Ramsey Charlotte, I often refer to your pages on Madison Co., KY and Boone Co., MO marriages. Wonderful work, thanks so much. I'm contacting you in regards to a few dangling Roberts we have in my family. Reading your Roberts pages, I have little doubt one or more of my mystery Roberts orphans belongs to you. First I'll give you a very brief background on my folks. My gg grandparents are David Sanders (b. SC 1803) and Rebecca Renfro who were married in Madison Co., KY in 1835. David had 3 siblings in Madison Co., KY. They are: Cynthia (b. SC 1801) m. James Hagan; Ausburn (b. SC 1806) m. Emily Mildred Renfro; and Drucilla (b. KY 1818) m. James W. Land. Also, have another sibling which we believe we recently located in Boone C., MO. He is Drury Sanders born 1811 in York Dist., SC and arrived in Boone Co., MO in 1832 (from Madison Co., KY). We're still missing last rumored sibling by name of Milton Sanders -- just in case you stumble across him in Boone County. Parents of this group of low profile Sanders' were James Sanders and Ellen McClurkin who were born in SC and left not a trace, save the afore mentioned uncooperative children. Now to the Roberts connection. Rebecca Renfro, my gg grandmother (wife of David Sanders) was daughter of Peter Renfro and Judith Land. Rebecca's brother (Peter and Judith's son) James M. Renfro, married Mary Roberts 26 Sep 1849 with William Roberts as Bondsman. Then, going back a generation to Judith Land's brother, Henry Land (m. Eleanor Hosic). Henry Land's first 2 daughters, America and Lucinda married Roberts. Lucinda Land (b. 1811) married John Roberts 10 Dec 1828. America Land (b. 1809) married William F. Roberts 24 Dec 1829. These 2 Roberts gentleman were of little interest to us until a lady by name of Susan Roberts entered the fray. This is one fascinating lady. She was married first to James Hagan 11 Apr 1866, son of James Hagan and Cynthia Sanders (sister of our David). After James died in 1873, she married William Hagan in 1874. Bondsman was Clifton Shifflett, husband of a Margaret Roberts (for marriage of bondsman Clifton to Margaret, an Aquilla Roberts, Father of Bride, gave Consent). Susan's marriage to Wylie ended in divorce and in 1880 she and her children (of both marriages) are found in same census dwelling with James W. Land and wife, Drucilla Sanders. Drucilla is our David's other sister and kid sister of Cynthia, Susan's former mother-in-law. This more than anything sparked our curiosity in these Roberts. Confused??? We sure are. These living arrangements seemed to suggest some kinship with Drucilla and James W. Land beyond Drucilla as sister of Susan's mother-in-law. So far, it seems that the afore mentioned Sanders siblings had very little to do with each other, much less take in one of the others former daughter-in-law (and that after subsequent remarriage and divorce). Likewise the afore mentioned Land/Roberts marriages of daughters of Drucilla's brother, David's wife Rebecca's mother's brother -- ha, ha, would be even more of a stretch (and require sentence structure beyond my capability). So we are left suspecting some blood kinship between Drucilla's husband, James W. Land and Susan Roberts. Bondsman for Susan's first marriage to James Hagan was Clifton Shifflet. Might be key to note that Clifton was married to a Margaret Roberts (10 yrs earlier) and consent for that marriage was given by an Aquilla Roberts, identified as the "Father of Bride". In your Madison Co marriage lists we find: "Roberts, Quiller (Aquilla)--Land, Haily 158 Jan 01, 1826 Madison Co., KY" And then in in the marriage book 1823-1851, we find: "Quiller Roberts mar Hailey LAND 1 Jan 1826 BND; James Roberts Consent by; Polly Land 1 Jan 1826" Looking at census', Haily is almost certainly Mahala and Quiller is Aquilla. Thus I have a hunch that Hailey/Mahala and Polly Land (who gave consent) might lead us back to James W. Land. So I plead for your help. Can you shed any Roberts light on this confusing picture??? Actually, this is the norm for anyone who ever strayed too close to our Sanders' -- they were just sucked into oblivion. As a foot note I should add that Susan Roberts, widow of James Hagan, who was divorced from William F. Wylie, subsequently remarried at least 2 more times, to Richard T. Jones and finally to L. G. LaFollette. She is buried in Hagan (1st husbands family) plot in Richmond Cemetary, Madison Co., KY as Susan Hagan Lafollette b. Jan 5, 1840 d. Feb 11, 1920. Sorry for length of this message, but everything about our family seems unduly complicated. Many Thanks, Butch (aka Charles Sanders) PS: Forgot to mention one other Roberts in this curious mix. A Jesse T. Roberts (b. 1839) m. Mary Catherine Wylie, the sister of William F. Wylie (Susan's second husband). Some Notes collected on these folks: Susan Roberts m. James Hagan 11 Apr 1866 Widow Susan Roberts Hagan m. William F. Wylie 4 Aug 1874 Divorced Susan Roberts Hagan Wylie m. Richard T. Jones, Jan 22, 1884 in Madison Co. KY. Nannie Boon Hagan, 16, b. in Madison Co., married Dec. 25, 1884 to Willis L. Maret, 21, b. Madison Co., POM; Susan Jones, PB b. in Madison Co. consent by; Susan Jones --MB BND; Alex Shiffett Bk. 14-449 (242) Widow/Divorced Susan Roberts Hagan Wylie Jones m. L. G. LaFollette 22 Sep 1893 in Lincoln, KY. L. G. LAFOLLETTE Sex : M Marriage(s): Spouse : Susan JONES Marriage : 22 Sep 1893 Lincoln, Kentucky Susan Roberts Hagan Lafollette b. Jan 5, 1840 d. Feb 11, 1920 buried in Hagan plot Richmond Cemetery, Richmond, Madison Co., KY Name: LAFOLLETTE , SUSAN Death Date : 11 02 20 Death Place: LNCLN Residence : Age : 080 Last Name First Name MI Age Death Place Residence Death Date Volume Certificate Death Volume LAFOLLETTE SUSAN 080 LINCOLN 02-11-1920 011 05428 1920 ______________________________________________________ William F. Wylie was son of Harvey Wylie and Ruth Champ. His sister, Mary Catherine Wylie m. Jesse T. Roberts (b. 1839). ______________________________________________________ Two daughters of Henry Land (brother of Judith Land) married Roberts. America Land m. William F. Roberts (b. 1808). Married: 23 DEC 1829 in Jessamine Co.,KY Children John Salvage ROBERTS b: 23 SEP 1832 Anne E. ROBERTS b: 25 FEB 1839 in ,,Kentucky William Fountain ROBERTS b: 12 OCT 1843 in Moberly,,Missouri Lucinda Land m. John Roberts (b. 1801). Jessamine County 1850 Census Roll 208, Page 24 Family 337 John Roberts 49 Farmer Virginia Lucinda Roberts 38 William Roberts 20 John Roberts 17 Fountain Roberts 15 Ellen Roberts 11 Moon? Roberts 8 ______________________________________________________ James M. Renfro (son of Peter Jr and Judith Land) m. Mary Roberts 26 Sep 1849. (Mary b. 1826). Marriage Bond 24SE1849; Bond by William Roberts. ______________________________________________________ Bondsman Clifton Shifflett for Susan Hagan/Wm Wylie marriage . Clifton b. 1825, the son of Fountain Shifflett and Rebecca Coyle. Clifton Shifflett m. Margaret Roberts 13 Mar 1856 Madison Co., KY Margaret Roberts, 20 mar Mar 10.1856 to; CLIFTON SHIFLETT, 31, BND : David Roberts; Consent by: Aquilla Roberts--FB ______________________________________________________ Quiller ROBERTS Marriage(s): Spouse : Polly LAND Marriage : 1 Jan 1826 Madison, Kentucky Roberts, Quiller (Aquilla)--Land, Haily 158 Jan 01, 1826 Madison Co., KY Then in the marriage book 1823-1851 Quiller Roberts mar Hailey LAND 1 Jan 1826 BND: James Roberts Consent by: Polly Land 1 Jan 1826 ______________________________________________________ Lewis ROBERTS Marriage(s): Spouse : Nelly LOGSDON Marriage : 23 Nov 1822 Madison, Kentucky Quiller ROBERTS Sex : M Event(s): Birth : 1834 Hearl, Hallsville, Boone, Missouri Parents: Father : Lewis ROBERTS Mother : Eleandor LOGSDON ______________________________________________________ In the 1850 census: Caler Roberts---42---farmer---$450. Mahaly --41 Lawrence --18 David --17 Margaret --15 Susan --12 Mary --09 Martha --09 Enoch --08 Andrew --05 Rebecca --04 John --03 George --01 then in the 1860 census: Jacob Cunius---94--Pa.--farmer Aquillia --52 (farm-lab) Mahala --51 Mary --19 Martha --19 Enoc --17 Andrew J. --15 Rebecca A. --13 John M. --12 George W. --11 ______________________________________________________ Charlotte, these Roberts wouldn't seem to be players in question at hand, but included them in case they mean anything to you. UNION COUNTY, KY BIRTHS & CHRISTENINGS SUSAN MARY d/o James & Susan Roberts, 16 Aug 1857, christened at St. Vincent Parish; sp Martha Ellen O'Nan GEORGE FRANCIS s/o John & Priscilla Roberts, christened 21 Oct 1858, at St. Vincent Parish; gm Susan Hagan (gm = godmother?) JOHN s/o William & Susan (Hite) Roberts, christened 15 Aug 1859,at St. Vincent Parish; gm Mary L. Hite
Submitted 26 Nov 2000 by Charles Sanders
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