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John Lilly II, son of John Lilly I
of York and Gloucester Counties, Virginia.

On This Page:
John Lilly II
Marriage of John Lilly II
Records of John Lilly II
Children of John Lilly II
        John Lilly III
        Mary Lilly
        Elizabeth Lilly 


Links:
John Lilly I
John Lilly III
John Lilly IV
William Lilly, son of John Lilly IV
February 1639 Deposition referring to the ship, Elizabeth
Reade-Malson
Armiger Wade Family
Wade-Halsey in England
Lilly's in England-No Proven Links
Lilly-Lilly Home Page
Edmund Lilly
Tax Records of Fluvanna County, Virginia
Flippen/Flipping


John Lilly II


        John Lilly II was born in Virginia between 1637 and 1645 and died after 1686.  He married  Dorothy Wade, who was born after 1642, died after 1677.
         Their exact number of children is unknown.  However, we have a baptism for his son John Lilly III, and we have some land and deed records for Mary Lilly, daughter of John Lilly, and a marriage contract for Elizabeth Lilly, daughter of John Lilly.  I have found no trace of another child although there could have been one. 

1646
            By October 1646, John Lilly I was deceased because Mr. Edmund Chisman was named father in law, [i.e., stepfather] to John Lilly orphan. I would expect this to have been relatively soon after their marriage.  Note that John Lilly's widow is not mentioned by name.  In colonial times, it was common to divide cattle before dispersing any other property.  Note that the last part refers to the estate of John Lilly which would prove that the John Lilly, orphan, was his heir.  No other Lilly orphans were named so there were probably not any other children.  Note that in the other cases on this day, more than one child is listed. So presumably, if there had been another Lilly child, it would have been mentioned.  The exact age of John Lilly II is not given in all this.  He was born in Virginia after his father arrived ca. 1637 and before this guardianship record. His father received land for paying for the transportation of various persons including his wife.  If John II had been born in England, he could have received extra land and surely would have done so.  But John I married in England because he received land for his wife.  

Beverly Fleet, York County, 1646-1648, (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1961)
pages 19-20 [Odd spelling is quoted from the book which is quoted from the original documents.]
Reference page 180 of York County Court Records: At A Court holden for York 20 October 1646,
Present: Mr. John Chow, Capt John Chisman, Capt Ralph Wormley, Capt William Taylor, Mr. Row Burnham.
Page 180: It is ordered with the consent of Mr. Edmund Chisman father in law to John Lilley, orphant; William Barber, father-in-law to the orphants of John Dennett, Viz: Thomas Dennett, Margarett Dennett & Sarah Dennett & Daniell Ffoxe, father in law to the orphants of Clarke & Munday, that the estates belonging to the said several orphants which this day have given an account of this to this court shall hence forward with all there increase freely come and belong unto the said orphans without any charges for the future subsistence or education of the said orphants or for more care paines or charges preserving and looking to the said several orphants estates so long as they shall remain under the tuition of the abovesaid Edmund Chisman, the Male catle only excepted which belong to John Lilley only excepted.
Estate of John Lilley are as followeth:
Imprs five cowes one heifer of twce yeares old
two heifers of a yeare old apeece in all 8 head
Whereof dead one cow and three of the yeare calves dead.

        There is no record of his inheriting the 350 acres his father patented in 1642.  Since he inherited them under the law of Primogeniture, there was no necessity for it to pass through probate and thus the event left no paper trail.  

According to the York County Genealogical Society Files, there is a second Guardian's Report for John Lilly in 1648:

John Lilly’s estate; 20 Oct. 1646, DOW (2) 180-181 [guardian’s report]
24 Aug. 1648, DOW (2) 402 – another guardian’s report.

        However, that report has been mistakenly transcribed as John KELLY.  Having the date of the report, Lou Poole was able to find it.  I don't think it suggests anything.  It appears to me that is is just the last one that survived.  
Fleet, Beverley, Virginia Colonial Abstracts, Volume III, p. 108.
Orphhants Court held August 24th 1648 … Cattle belonging to John Kelly [sic – John Lilly].  2 cows, 6 heifers.  ‘two Cowes sold to John Smith for on thousand pounds of tob.’  Signed Edmund Chisman.

1661 John Lilly II received a bounty for killing wolves.
Benjamin B. Weisiger III, York County, Virginia Records 1659-1662, 1989.
Page 134: Ordered that Capt. Ralph Langley, High Sheriff of York County, receive 66 lbs tobacco per poll of all tithables for payment of the debts due to several persons of the debts due to several persons of the public and county.
1661: York County, Debtors
List of names and amounts includes
To John Lilly 200 [for wolves]


Marriage of John Lilly II

        Note that John Lilly is described as of Milford Haven in the 1669 church record. That is the location of his father's 1642 land patent of 350 acres, so he was surely living there at that time.  That was in Gloucester County and he should have gone to Kingston Parish Church near his home.  He may have come back to his wife's home for the Christening of his first son. We are lucky that he did because the Kingston Parish Register for that time period did not survive. Charles Parish Records are complete from 1648.


John Lilly II married Dorothy Wade, daughter of Armiger Wade according to the will of Armiger Wade.
Will, Pocoson Parish, York County, Virginia
Armiger Wade's will, proven 24 April 1677 mentions sons, John Hay, John Lilly and Armiger Wade; daughters Mary Hay, dec'd, Dorothy Lilly, and grandchild Anne Wade.

    We do not have a record of the marriage but their son John Lilly III, was baptized in 1669.  I am not sure of the age of Mary.  She could have been born before or after John III.  

Landon C. Bell, Charles Parish, York County, Virginia History and Registers, Births 1648-1789, Deaths 1665-1787, (Richmond, Virginia: Virginia State Library Board, 1932) page 126.
page 126: Births: John Lilly, son of John Lilly, of Milford Haven, by D(orothy?), baptized 3 August 1669. 

        The wording of the will of Armiger Wade is noteworthy. He refers to the "children of my daughter Mary Hay, dec'd, and the children of my daughter, Dorothy Lilly." The will was written January 15 and he died January 16.  So at this point, we could reasonably assume that Dorothy was still alive and that she had children, i.e., more than one child.  

        For more information on Armiger Wade and Dorothy Halsey/Halsby, the parents of Dorothy Wade, who married John Lilly [II], see Wade Family.

1670-1679
        Courtesy of Lou Poole: This is the first mention of John Lilly owning land in York County in addition to his patent which was in Gloucester by this date. He obviously owned or at least had control of this land by 1670. I have suspected that this is the land referred to in the 1688 Reade Patent.  If not, I don't know where he would have gotten it or what would have happened to it.
Weisiger, Benjamin B. III, York County, Virginia, Records, 1665-1672, p. 220.
John Lilly appeared in three York County court records dated December 1670 and January 1671:
Page 220: Mr. Edward Palmer, Mr. Edward Mosse, Mr. Nicholas Clarke and Mr. John Lawson are to view tobacco
and sider [sic] tendered by Charles Camell for rent for use of Mr. John Lilly, his landlord, to see if it is according
to lease.
Page 225: Upon report of Mr. Edward Palmer, Nicholas Clarke, Edward Mosse and John Lawson, appointed to view
the sider and tobacco tendered by Charles Camell for rent to Mr. John Lilly, they find it is not according to
the lease, and it is ordered said Camell pay Lilly 1000 lbs tob. for 2 years rent, and he is to continue on the
plantation this year, but one default, and he is to leave.
Page 230: Dec. 1671. We, appointed to view tobacco and cyder ordered by Charles Camell to his landlord Mr. Lilly,
find the syder not to be according to the lease, neither is it the worst that we have drunk, and for tobacco, we
saw none. Signed: Edward (mark) Palmer, Nicholas Clarke, Edward Mosse, John (mark) Lawson.

Also from Lou Poole.  He comments that he is not sure that this is a Lilly.  But note that he sends his friend, John Hay.  John Hay was the husband of Mary Wade. John Lilly and John Hay were brothers in law.  
Weisiger, Benjamin B. III, York County, Virginia, Records, 1672-1676, p. 160 and 162.
Page 155: 1 Mar 1675/6 … On examination of accounts between Mr. Francis Kinneton, plt., and John Lile, deft., it is ordered that deft. pay plt. 160 lbs tob.”52
Page 157: 1 Mar 1675/6 … I, John Lile, being unable to attend court in answer to Francis Kinneton’s arrest, make my loving friend John Hay my attorney.
22 Jan 1675 John (I) Lile
Wit: Samuell Toplady, Daniell (+) Mullitt”53


Note on Charles Camel.
Lou Poole wondered if this Charles Camel in the above records was living in Gloucester or York County so he checked on him.  Lou only found one record, but it appears that he was living in York County (and not far-off Milford Haven):
http://lawsondna.org/Media/virginiacounties/York.html
 20 Dec 1666 York County, VA Records 1665-1672, Abstracted and Compiled by Benjamin B. Weisiger III – At a Court of York County 20 December 1666, page 116 – 20 June 1666, We being summoned before Thomas Beale, Esquire, to view the body of William Stenely, servant to Maj. James Goodwin, find he drowned himself willfully in the creek. Signed: John Adulator (foreman), Isaac Friend, John Mathews, Richard Wheeler, Charles Greven, Thomas Wardley, Thomas Crighton, John Lawson, Charles Camell and Xpher Pepper.
 
1682
        John Lilly patented 234 acres in what was then Gloucester County and became Mathews County in 1791. Note that the land description mentions Milford Haven.  His father patented land Southwest of Milford Haven in 1642 so the land was probably next to his father's original patent.  

Records of Colonial Gloucester County, Virginia, (Newport News, Va. :: Mrs. G.C. Mason, 1948) Two volumes 334 pgs.
Volume I, page 48 lists various spellings of the name as it appears later: Lilly, Lylley, Lillie, Lily, Lyllie, Lylley.
Patent John Lyllie 234 acres, Volume 7 page 213, dated 22 December 1682, now in Mathews County.
Betwixt Garden Creek and Milford Haven adjoining Mr. Edmd. Forrest, George Billops and John Callis: Head right X'pher Trow, Sarah Sparrow, Joan Godden, Isaac Hopkins, 1 negro.

1686

        Additional references to John Lilly courtesy of Lou Poole.  Since this is John Lilly junr, John Lilly II was still alive at this date. The junr would have been John Lilly III. This courtesy reference was generally dropped after the elder individual was deceased. Senior and junior did not necessarily mean father and son.  The terms were used more to mean older and younger.  With more than one family in an area with the same surname, the senior and junior might not even have been related.  There are no surviving records which suggested that John Lilly II survived after this record.  
Dorman, John Frederick, York County, Virginia, Deeds, Orders, Wills, Etc., No. 9, 1691-1694, Part 1, p. 11.
        A horse being imprest from Mr. Fra: Read for his Majestie’s use, the horse, bridle and saddle being valued
by two men to bee worth 1000 pounds of tobacco, being delivered 1 April 1686 to me Geo _____. John
Lilly, Junr. and Christopher (X) Longston. By vertue [sic] of a warrant from Mr. Robt. Read the horse was
by me prest being for his Majestie’s juse being then constable for the upper precincts of York Parish. s/
John Smyth.



Children of John Lilly II

1. John Lilly III, Christened 1669 See John Lilly III
2. Mary Lilly, married ca. 1688 Robert Reade
3. Elizabeth Lilly, married ca. 1703 Robert Phillipson

       With so much lost in Gloucester County, we do not have a date of death or estate record for John Lilly II.  I suspect from the property inherited by his daughters, Mary and Elizabeth, that John Lilly III must have left a will which is now lost.  Under the Law of Primogeniture which was in effect in Virginia until 1786, they would have had no claim to any land or property unless someone gave it to them or willed it to them.  Everything would have automatically gone to his oldest son John Lilly III, again leaving no paper trail even if the Gloucester records had survived.    
        I cannot explain why land was left to Mary and none was left to Elizabeth.  However, the contract clearly states that she received a competent marriage portion. I just have found no clue as to what it was.   

Mary Lilly
        Mary Lilly appears to have been the older daughter of John Lilly II, because she married ca. 1688, at least 15 years before her sister married ca. 1703. 
The patent says that Mary was the daughter of John Lilly. It also says John Lilly married the heir of Edward Malson. There is a lot of material on the internet to the effect that the wife of Armiger Wade was the daughter of Edward Malson, but that theory has been discredited. This patent date is more than a little bit confusing, but it was apparently filed 20 October 1688, because the one after it in the book was filed on that date.  Either Mary (Lilly) Reade married very young or she was born before John Lilly III.  It seems likely that this patent was filed shortly after she married to nail down the ownership of the land.  
        Unfortunately, the patent does not say which John Lilly married the heiress.  However, we know that John Lilly II married Dorothy Wade and she could not have been the Malson heiress, John Lilly III, born 1669, was too young to have married and been Mary's father, so we are left with John Lilly I as the only John Lilly who could have married the Malson heiress, and thus John Lilly II as the only John Lilly who could have been her father. 

Nell Marion Nugent, Cavalier and Pioneers II, 1666-1695, page 328:
Patent Book 7: dated 20 October 1688.
Mr. Robert Read, in right of his wyfe, Mary, daughter to Mr. Jno. Lilly, 305 acres, in York Co., and Parish, beg. on S. side of the Back Cr. on W. side of Gwin's Cr.; to branch of Cheeseman's Creek., parting this and land of Mrs. Joane Worldley; along Thomas Wooton, to land of Abigall Blackstone, dec'd; to land of Richard Palmer, dec'd; 20 October 1688, p. 680 100 acres granted Jno. Congdon, 17 December 1640 and assigned to Edward Mallson & due said John Lilly for marrying with the heiress of sd. Mallson; 125 acs. granted Robert Lendall & George Pnnerell, 29 October 1651 and by sd. Lendall sett over to 

For more on this Moulson - Lilly- Reade Problem, see Moulson Reade. This page also includes all records on Edward Moulson.

Elizabeth Lilly
        Elizabeth Lilly, the second known daughter of John Lilly II, married ca. 1703. The 15 years between these dates make me think that Elizabeth was much younger than Mary. Mary Lilly received a gift of land.  Elizabeth, her younger sister, who married Robert Phillipson ca. 1703, did not receive land.  I checked the 1704 Quit Rent Roll which is available on Ancestry.com [paid site].  There is no Philipson, Phillipson with any spelling. There are Phillips but no Robert Philips or Phillips in the Quit Rent List.  I suspect that this means that there was no land involved here. However, she obviously receved something else because she was said to have received a competant marriage portion. 
             Eliazabeth Lilly in the following deed is said to have been the daughter of John Lilly.  Unfortunately, nothing is said which proves which John Lilly is being referred to. There was only 34 years between the date of the birth of John Lilly III, in 1669 and her marriage in 1704. That is not enough time even if she married young. So she must have been the daughter of John Lilly II and Dorothy Wade.       
        We have some questions about this record.  We are not sure why it is called a deed. Elizabeth had what was called a competent marriage portion, but no description is given.  It was not land because his name is not in the Quit Rents of 1704.  It appears that the individuals concerned are making this "deed" to protect Elizabeth.  In exchange for her marriage portion, which her husband is receiving, she is to have a jointure for her future maintainance, if she survivies Phillipson.   Lawrence Smith was a Lawyer which might be why he is involved. Robert Reade is her brother in law so probably that is why he is involved.  We are missing any will that John Lilly II might have made in Gloucester County, but I think he must have left one. Otherwise, she would have had no claim to any property of her father under the law of Primogeniture.


       
Marriage portion is that property which is given to a woman on her marriage.  It becomes the absolute property of her husband.  Under the law at that time, upon a marriage, the husband acquired total rights to his wife's property.  He could sell it, gamble it away, give it to his relatives, etc and his wife had no recourse unless her marriage contract so specified.  I imagine that is the reason for this contract.  A jointure is an estate or property settled on a woman in consideration of marriage, to be owned by her after her husband's death.
        The marriage bond seems a little large to me.  It may have been a function of the size of her property.  

The transcription of the deed is courtesy of Lou Poole.
“P. 101” – Brewer, Mary Marshall, York County, Virginia Land Records, 1694-1713, p. 74.
13 Aug 1703.  Deed.  Between Robt Phillipson of York Parish & Co phisitian on the one parte & Robert Read & Lawrence Smith of same place gent of the other parte, whereas a maryage is already concluded upon & by the Grace of God shortly hereafter to be had & solemnized between the sd Robt Phillipson & Elizabeth Lilly of York Co spinster dau of John Lilly late of Gloucester Co dec'd, now this indenture wit that the sd Robert Phillipson as well for & in concideration of the sd maryage also of a competent maryage portion had which the sd Elizabeth before the ensealing hereof & to the end & purpose that some competent estate may be had & made for & jointure of sd Elizabeth for her future maintainance & livelihood (if in case the sd intended marriage shall take effect & the sd Elizabeth shall survive & overlive the sd Robert Phillipson) hath granted & confirmed unto the sd Robert Read & Lawrence Smith the full & just sume of £100 … Wit: Arthur Tilliard, William Sedgwick, Willm Tunley.  Ackn 25 Oct 1703 & comitted to record.  Attest: Willm Sedgwick clerk.

The following article suggests that the John Lilly was John Lilly III. However, that is probably not right.  See above. There were only 34 years between the birth of John Lilly III and the marriage of Elizabeth in 1703.

William and Mary Quarterly, Volume 14, page 124:
Chisman Family in Quarterly, I., 89-98. Capt. Thomas Chisman was son of Edmund Chisman which last made his will in 1673, and was brother of Col. John Chisman of the Virginia Council. Capt. Thomas Chisman was a brother of Major Edmund Chisman, a gallant officer under Bacon, who was arrested and died in prison. The latter's wife was Lydia, niece of Capt. Farlow, another of Bacon's officers, who is described as not only a brave man, but expert in mathematics and engineering. Lydia had the spirit of her uncle, and when Major Chisman was arraigned before Sir William Berkeley, took the blame of his rebellion, upon herself, and desired to be hanged in his stead. Captain Thomas Chisman and Elizabeth Reade, his wife, had issue: Thomas, born about 1673, Mildred, born February 19, 1675, Elizabeth, John, Jane, George, Sarah, Anne. Of these Thomas Chisman married Anne and had Edmund, John, George, Thomas, Ann, Mildred and Elizabeth. Of these John [Chisman] died about 1758; married Mary, daughter of Dr. Robert Phillipson and Elizabeth Lilly his wife, daughter of John Lilly, of Gloucester Co. (marriage contract in 1703). John Lilly was son of John Lilly and Dorothy Wade (daughter of Armiger Wade, of York Co.), [sic see notes above] and was born August 3, 1669. John Chisman and Mary Phillipson had issue: Catherine, born July 31, 1729, married James Moss, and Anna, born March 15, 1730, who married Thomas Pescud; and Pescud married 2dly Elizabeth Moss, daughter of—Moss and Mary Chisman, daughter of Edmund Chisman above named, brother of John Chisman, who married Mary Phillipson.

Elizabeth Lilly married Doctor Robert Phillipson:
        As the following record shows, Elizabeth (Lilly) Phillipson had died prior to 1745, and Robert Phillipson married Mary Powell, widow of Thomas Powell. Robert Phillipson died less than a year later in early 1746 which was written as 1745/6 in the calendar used then:
 
“York County Deed Book 5, p. 149” – Brewer, Mary Marshall, York County, Virginia Land Records, 1729-1763, p. 87.
           “25 Jul MDCCXXXXV[1745]. Indenture Tripartite. Between Robt Philipson of Warwick Parish, Warwick Co gent of the first part, Mary Powell of York Co widow & relict of Thos Powell decd of the second part and Thos Cary of Warwick Parish & Wm Powell planter of Yorkhampton Parish of the third part … whereas an agreement made between said Robt Philipson & Mary Powell for a marriage shortly to be had & solemnized between them and whereas Mary Powell is now possessed of a personal estate consisting of Negroes, household goods, cattle, sheep, horses, hoggs & other things, it is agreed between all the parties and the said Robert Philipson to the said intended marriage the said Philip [sic] Philipson did consent & agree with the said Mary Powell, Thos Cary and William Powell that all the said personal estate which the said Mary Powell is possessed hereafter is hers in her own right during her life and a separate estate from the estate of said Robert Philipson … Wit: Seymour Powell, Frances Chisman. Ackn 18 Nov 1745.”

“York County Deed Book 5, p. 143” – Brewer, Mary Marshall, York County, Virginia Land Records, 1729-1763, p. 86.
            “26 Jul 1745. Deed of Gift. Robert Philipson of Warwick Co gent for natural love and affection give to my granddaus Katherine Chisman and Anna Chisman daus of John Chisman of York Co four Negroes with their increase (as follows) to Katherine Chisman one Negro wench named Nanny and two Negro children named Martha & Elizabeth and to Anna Chisman one Negro boy named Obey, now in possession of John Chisman their father … Wit: Seymour Powell, William Powell, Seymour Powell Junr., Seymour Powell min. Proved 19 Aug 1745. Attest Thos Everard clerk.”

“P. 23” – Brewer, Mary Marshall, York County, Virginia Wills, Inventories and Court Orders, 1745-1759, p. 6.
            “Robert Philipson of Yorkhampton Parish, York Co. 21 Jan 1745/6.[Note that this would have been what we think of as 1746.] I give my land to my two daus Mary Chisman and Dorothy Cary, that part whereof I now live on the Mary Chisman, the other to Dorothy Cary. To my granddau Catherine Chisman one Negro girl named Nanny now in the possession of her father by virtue of a deed. To my granddau Ann Chisman one Negro boy named Obed, now in possession of her father. To my grandson Robert Cary one Negro girl called Little Hannah. To my grandson Thomas Cary one Negro boy called Tomboy. To my dau Dorothy Cary one Negro girl named Kate. I lend to my wife Mary Philipson three Negroes Harry, Hannah & Nanny during her natural life, likewise a good bed & furniture, 6 cows, 2 young steers, my chair, horses Pleasant & Jo[?], chest with a lack of key, 2 dishes & six plates. The residue of my estate I give ½ to my dau Dorothy Cary and the ½ to my dau Mary Chisman during her natural life, after her decease ½ to her heirs but for want of such heirs to Dorothy Cary and her heirs. My will is that Thomas Cary continues on the plantation he now liveth upon til Christmas. I appoint Thomas Cary executor. Wit: Samuel Reade, William Powell, Seymour Powell Junr. Proved 17 Mar 1745 [/6] & ordered to be recorded. Thomas Cary the executor together with William Allen, Edward Cross & Edward Potter his securities ackn a bond. Attest: Thos Everard clerk.”

“P. 24” – Brewer, Mary Marshall, York County, Virginia Wills, Inventories and Court Orders, 1745-1759, p. 6.

        “In obedience to an order of court dated 17 Mar 1745/6, Wil Dudley, Thos Haynes & John Jones did meet at the dwelling house of Doctor Robert Philipson decd and after being sworn before Thos Wills gent did appraise the estate of the said Philipson: 2 yoke of oxen, 2 steers, 2 heiffers, 2 bulls, 7 cows & calves, etc. Negroes: man Peter, man Grammer, woman June, child Grace, man Dick, woman Mary, Tomboy, girl Katee, Nanny girl, boy Frank, woman Hannah. 362 pd 9 sl. Thos Cary executor. Ordered to be recorded 13 May 1746. Attest: Thos Everard clerk.”

“P. 26” – Brewer, Mary Marshall,
York County, Virginia Wills, Inventories and Court Orders, 1745-1759, p. 6.
        “Inventory & appraisement of the estate of Robert Philipson decd. Negroes: man Harry, woman Hannah, 1 silver can, 1 silver porringer, 1 drame cup, 4 large spoons, 3 tea spoons, 1 large tea kettle, etc. 110 pd 6 sl 3 pn. Thos Cary executor. William Robinson, Samuel Reade, Edward Moss, John Tenham. Ordered to be recorded 19 May 1746. Attest: Thos Everard clerk.”

“P. 100” – Brewer, Mary Marshall, York County, Virginia Wills, Inventories and Court Orders, 1745-1759, p. 22.
        “The estate of Doctor Robert Philipson decd. To a legacy lent his widow, a Negro boy named Tomboy given to Thos Cary Junr, a Negro girl named Little Hannah given to Robt Cary, a Negro girl given to Dorothy Cary, paid Col. Braxton for a protested bill, Col Harwood rents of the free school of which Doctor Philipson was trustee, Samuel Wallace, Major Miles Cary, Peter Rew, James Dowsing, Col. Cary, Abram St. Leger, Mr. Parks, Wm Loyd, Thos Cary, Mr. Nelson, Mrs. Gough, estate of John Powell, Thos Roberts, John Harrison, Capt. John Goodwin. Cash in Mr. Hanbury’s hands. 568 pd 4 sl 10 ½ pn. Samuel Reade, John Goodwin, Thos Reynolds, William Allen. Ordered to be recorded 16 May 1748. Attest: Thos Everard clerk.”



See also John Lilly III, son of John Lilly II, born ca. 1669, died before 1710. His wife is unknown.



Edmund Lilly

For much more information on Edmund Lilly see
Edmund Lilly

        John III is the only known Lilly who was of the right age to be Edmund's father.  However, I would not be surprised to find out that Edmund was the son of an unknown son of the John Lilly II who married Dorothy Wade, daughter of Armiger Wade.  
       The only other possibility is that Edmund was the son of an unknown son of John Lilly II. Since we lack his will and church records, this is possible.   


Flippen/Flipping

         Edmund Lilly was married to Ann Flippen/Flipping in Gloucester County although no record of this marriage has survived.
See
Flippen/Flipping .


Miscellaneous Other Gloucester County Books:

Lyon G. Tyler, "Old Tombstones in Gloucester County," The William and Mary Quarterly, Volume 2, no. 4 (April 1894
plus other issues.  Searching underway.

Available on Google Books- no Lilly  http://books.google.com/books?id=Ez6_pr0qUiEC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=billsup&f=false
The Vestry Book of Petsworth Parish, Gloucester County, Virginia, 1677-1793

Epitaphs of Gloucester and Mathews Counties in Tidewater Virginia through 1865, 975.53 V3e FHL  No Lilly.  

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