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Family of Iowerth + ap CADWGON and Gwenllian + verch AARON

Husband: Iowerth + ap CADWGON (1020-1060)
Wife: Gwenllian + verch AARON (1026-1101)
Children: Dyddgu + verch IORWERTH (1068- )

Husband: Iowerth + ap CADWGON

Name: Iowerth + ap CADWGON
Sex: Male
Father: Cagwgon + ap ELYSTAN (998- )
Mother: Efa + VERCH GWRGAN (995- )
Birth 1020 Radnorshire, Wales
Death 1060 (age 39-40) Radnorshire, Wales

Wife: Gwenllian + verch AARON

Name: Gwenllian + verch AARON
Sex: Female
Father: Aaron + AP PAEN HEN (1000-1026)
Mother: -
Birth 1026 Radnorshire, Wales
Death 1101 (age 74-75) Radnorshire, Wales

Child 1: Dyddgu + verch IORWERTH

Name: Dyddgu + verch IORWERTH
Sex: Female
Spouse: LLywarch + AP TRAHAEARN (1070-1128)
Birth 1068 Radnorshire, Wales

Note on Husband: Iowerth + ap CADWGON

The pedigrees of Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Elystan Glodrydd cite his wife alternately as "Gwenllian v Aaron ap Paen Hen ap Io. ap Meirchion"[1] or "Gwerfyl, daughter of Aaron Paen ap y Paen Hen"[2] or "Dyddgu v Aaron Poen ap Payne ap Io ap Meirchion"[3] or "Gwenllian, daughter of Aron Pen of Castle Pen[4]. Certain medieval manuscripts expand her ancestry to "Meirchiawn ap Tanged ap Padriaric"[5]. It should be noted, however, that no "Io ap Meirchion occurs in the ancient annals or chronicles of the 10th or 11th centuries. Furthermore, "paen" is unknown in the Welsh language and our first impression is that "Aaron Paen" was probably not a Welshman. Secondly, we think the cited marriage involved a later man also named Idnerth ap Cadwgan.

Phonetically, "Paen" is the Welsh spelling of "Payne", a name closely associated with the commote of Elfael. We suspect the Aaron of Castle Pen refers to Painscastle in Elfael. If so, the chronology of the pedigree is off by about 4 generations.

Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Elystan, born c. 1050, had as his share of his father's lands the commotes of Ceri, Maelienydd and Elfael. On his death in the first quarter of the twelfth century, his son Madog (ob 1140) inherited all three of those commotes. However, claims to this territory were being pressed by the Normans. In the 1080's, Cadwgan had lost Hereford to the Normans and now Idnerth's purely Welsh portion (west of Offa's Dyke) of the old kingdom of Fferlys was invaded by Ralph Mortimer. Based at Wigmore in Herefordshire, this Mortimer brought his army into Maelienydd about 1093 and built a castle at Cymaran (Cwm Aeron). But in 1100, Mortimer was banished[6] to France by Henry I and Idnerth was able to reclaim his lost territory and pass it on intact to his son, Madog.

About the year 1130, another Norman intrusion came in Elfael. Henry I had installed Miles of Gloucester as Earl of Hereford, who appointed his retainer, Payne fitz John, as Sheriff for Herefordshire and Shropshire. The latter man invaded Elfael and built a motte and bailey hill-fort forever after known as "Painscastle". (It was not fortified with stone until 100 years later, in 1231 by Henry III). But it is believed that by 1135, Painscastle was under the control of Madog ap Idnerth. There is no record of a battle in Elfael and perhaps Madog and Payne had become "allies of necessity"; when Henry I died that year and Stephen became King of England, Hugh Mortimer (son of Ralph) returned to England and was restored to his castle at Wigmore. The Mortimer family was an old enemy of Madog's family and its expansionist ambitions may have led Payne fitz John to ally with Madog against Mortimer. Payne and Earl Miles had been very early adherents to King Stephen whose legitimacy to the crown was being challenged by Matilda, the daughter of Henry I to whom he had promised his kingdom[7]. The peaceful state of affairs in Elfael was to be altered drastically in the ensuing years: Payne died in 1137, Madog in 1140 and Hugh Mortimer soon after, all men past age 50.

Madog's lorship was divided between his sons, Cadwallon, Einion Clud, Maredudd, Hywel and Cadwgan. Payne fitz John was probably succeeded by a son, Aaron fitz Payne, whom the Welsh simply called "Aaron Paen ap y Paen Hen" or "Aaron Payne, the son of the older Payne". Hugh Mortimer II inherited Wigmore and in 1142, he invaded Maelienydd to regain Cymaran and killed Hywel and Cadwgan ap Madog. He later moved into Elfael to take Painscastle, killing Maredudd ap Madog in 1146. Of Madog's remaining sons, Einion Clud became Lord of Elfael and Cadwallon Lord of Ceri and Maelienydd. For the next 30 years, Mortimer held the major castles in those commotes but the sons of Madog continued to hold the remainder of their lands with the support of King Stephen and his successor, Henry II...likely as a means of checking the Mortimer power within their own kingdom. But when Hugh Mortimer II died in the 1170's, his son Roger renewed the hostilities; his men ambushed and killed Einion Clud in 1177. When this did not result in any reprisals from Henry II, he was emboldened to kill Cadwallon ap Madog in 1179 as the latter was returning from a meeting with King Henry. This treachery was not ignored by the king; he had Mortimer's men arrested and their lands seized. Roger Mortimer himself was thrown into prison. But the Welsh family, the proud descendants of Elystan Glodrydd, was never again to rule their patrimony independently from the Normans. Thereafter, we find the family limited to smaller lordships, principally in Ceri.[8]

History is silent as to the fate of the family descended from Payne fitz John, but we believe it may have become extinct in the male line with Aaron. It was his daughter, whether Gwenllian or Gwerfyl or Dyddgu, who the pedigrees cite as the wife of an Idnerth ap Cadwgan. Since the lady would date from c. 1155, we should look for a man of that era for her husband...not the Idnerth of the mid-eleventh century. Our guess is he was a son of Cadwgan ap Madog ap Idnerth, born about 1140, and they named one of their sons Aaron who settled in Ceri. Another family descended from Idnerth was settled at Cefnllys in Maelienydd and we are told that Arddun ferch Einion of Cefnllys married Aaron ap Gruffudd ap Aaron.[9] And Addu Ddu of the Maesmawr family (just over the border from Ceri in Arwystli) married Efa ferch Meurig ap Aaron Pen called "one of the chief gentlemen in Ceri"[10]. Our compilation of this data is shown by this chart:

1050 Idnerth ap Cadwgan John 1055

_______l_______ l

l l l

1085 Ifor Madog 1080 Payne 1085

l l l

1115 Gronwy Cadwgan Aaron 1120

l l 1110 l 1140

1145 Ieuaf 1140 Idnerth=====Daughter 1155 Cynfelyn

l l l

1175 Meurig Aaron Pen 1175 Einion 1170

l _______l_________ l

l l l l

1205 Einion Gruffudd 1205 Meurig 1210 Gruffudd 1205

l l l l

1245 Arddun======Aaron 1235 Efa========Adda Ddu 1235

1245

(Cefnllys family) (family from Payne fitz John) (Maesmawr family)

NOTE: We have dated the men in this chart by marriages cited to other families rather than rely solely on those within various branches of the clan of Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Elystan, and by obit notices cited for some of them.

We conclude by acknowledging this identification of "Aaron Paen" means the actual wife taken by Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Elystan Glodrydd is unknown; there was no Aaron among the ancestors of Payne fitz John. Although the "ap Io" can be read as an abbreviation for "ap John", there was also no Meirchion in his ancestry...John is cited as "fitz Eustace of Conteville" and the latter is probably the Eustace fitz John listed in the Roll of Battle Abbey as a companion of William of Normandy at Hastings.[11] We suspect the mythical Meirchion is simply a name appended to make it appear Idnerth married a Welsh lady. But the Idnerth we identify as the lady's husband would have flourished in the final quarter of the 12th century, and his grandfather had peacefully coexisted with Payne fitz John. A marriage between those two families is not only possible, but even probable. The grandfathers of both the lady and of our putative Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Madog had been, at worst, political allies who shared a common foe in the Mortimers and a common friend in the king of England. Madog ap Idnerth ap Cadwgan and Payne fitz John might even have become the kind of friends created by the mantra "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". While no wife is cited for Aaron fitz Payne, he may well have married into the same Welsh family.

Note on Wife: Gwenllian + verch AARON

The pedigrees of Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Elystan Glodrydd cite his wife alternately as "Gwenllian v Aaron ap Paen Hen ap Io. ap Meirchion"[1] or "Gwerfyl, daughter of Aaron Paen ap y Paen Hen"[2] or "Dyddgu v Aaron Poen ap Payne ap Io ap Meirchion"[3] or "Gwenllian, daughter of Aron Pen of Castle Pen[4]. Certain medieval manuscripts expand her ancestry to "Meirchiawn ap Tanged ap Padriaric"[5]. It should be noted, however, that no "Io ap Meirchion occurs in the ancient annals or chronicles of the 10th or 11th centuries. Furthermore, "paen" is unknown in the Welsh language and our first impression is that "Aaron Paen" was probably not a Welshman. Secondly, we think the cited marriage involved a later man also named Idnerth ap Cadwgan.

Phonetically, "Paen" is the Welsh spelling of "Payne", a name closely associated with the commote of Elfael. We suspect the Aaron of Castle Pen refers to Painscastle in Elfael. If so, the chronology of the pedigree is off by about 4 generations.

Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Elystan, born c. 1050, had as his share of his father's lands the commotes of Ceri, Maelienydd and Elfael. On his death in the first quarter of the twelfth century, his son Madog (ob 1140) inherited all three of those commotes. However, claims to this territory were being pressed by the Normans. In the 1080's, Cadwgan had lost Hereford to the Normans and now Idnerth's purely Welsh portion (west of Offa's Dyke) of the old kingdom of Fferlys was invaded by Ralph Mortimer. Based at Wigmore in Herefordshire, this Mortimer brought his army into Maelienydd about 1093 and built a castle at Cymaran (Cwm Aeron). But in 1100, Mortimer was banished[6] to France by Henry I and Idnerth was able to reclaim his lost territory and pass it on intact to his son, Madog.

About the year 1130, another Norman intrusion came in Elfael. Henry I had installed Miles of Gloucester as Earl of Hereford, who appointed his retainer, Payne fitz John, as Sheriff for Herefordshire and Shropshire. The latter man invaded Elfael and built a motte and bailey hill-fort forever after known as "Painscastle". (It was not fortified with stone until 100 years later, in 1231 by Henry III). But it is believed that by 1135, Painscastle was under the control of Madog ap Idnerth. There is no record of a battle in Elfael and perhaps Madog and Payne had become "allies of necessity"; when Henry I died that year and Stephen became King of England, Hugh Mortimer (son of Ralph) returned to England and was restored to his castle at Wigmore. The Mortimer family was an old enemy of Madog's family and its expansionist ambitions may have led Payne fitz John to ally with Madog against Mortimer. Payne and Earl Miles had been very early adherents to King Stephen whose legitimacy to the crown was being challenged by Matilda, the daughter of Henry I to whom he had promised his kingdom[7]. The peaceful state of affairs in Elfael was to be altered drastically in the ensuing years: Payne died in 1137, Madog in 1140 and Hugh Mortimer soon after, all men past age 50.

Madog's lorship was divided between his sons, Cadwallon, Einion Clud, Maredudd, Hywel and Cadwgan. Payne fitz John was probably succeeded by a son, Aaron fitz Payne, whom the Welsh simply called "Aaron Paen ap y Paen Hen" or "Aaron Payne, the son of the older Payne". Hugh Mortimer II inherited Wigmore and in 1142, he invaded Maelienydd to regain Cymaran and killed Hywel and Cadwgan ap Madog. He later moved into Elfael to take Painscastle, killing Maredudd ap Madog in 1146. Of Madog's remaining sons, Einion Clud became Lord of Elfael and Cadwallon Lord of Ceri and Maelienydd. For the next 30 years, Mortimer held the major castles in those commotes but the sons of Madog continued to hold the remainder of their lands with the support of King Stephen and his successor, Henry II...likely as a means of checking the Mortimer power within their own kingdom. But when Hugh Mortimer II died in the 1170's, his son Roger renewed the hostilities; his men ambushed and killed Einion Clud in 1177. When this did not result in any reprisals from Henry II, he was emboldened to kill Cadwallon ap Madog in 1179 as the latter was returning from a meeting with King Henry. This treachery was not ignored by the king; he had Mortimer's men arrested and their lands seized. Roger Mortimer himself was thrown into prison. But the Welsh family, the proud descendants of Elystan Glodrydd, was never again to rule their patrimony independently from the Normans. Thereafter, we find the family limited to smaller lordships, principally in Ceri.[8]

History is silent as to the fate of the family descended from Payne fitz John, but we believe it may have become extinct in the male line with Aaron. It was his daughter, whether Gwenllian or Gwerfyl or Dyddgu, who the pedigrees cite as the wife of an Idnerth ap Cadwgan. Since the lady would date from c. 1155, we should look for a man of that era for her husband...not the Idnerth of the mid-eleventh century. Our guess is he was a son of Cadwgan ap Madog ap Idnerth, born about 1140, and they named one of their sons Aaron who settled in Ceri. Another family descended from Idnerth was settled at Cefnllys in Maelienydd and we are told that Arddun ferch Einion of Cefnllys married Aaron ap Gruffudd ap Aaron.[9] And Addu Ddu of the Maesmawr family (just over the border from Ceri in Arwystli) married Efa ferch Meurig ap Aaron Pen called "one of the chief gentlemen in Ceri"[10]. Our compilation of this data is shown by this chart:

1050 Idnerth ap Cadwgan John 1055

_______l_______ l

l l l

1085 Ifor Madog 1080 Payne 1085

l l l

1115 Gronwy Cadwgan Aaron 1120

l l 1110 l 1140

1145 Ieuaf 1140 Idnerth=====Daughter 1155 Cynfelyn

l l l

1175 Meurig Aaron Pen 1175 Einion 1170

l _______l_________ l

l l l l

1205 Einion Gruffudd 1205 Meurig 1210 Gruffudd 1205

l l l l

1245 Arddun======Aaron 1235 Efa========Adda Ddu 1235

1245

(Cefnllys family) (family from Payne fitz John) (Maesmawr family)

NOTE: We have dated the men in this chart by marriages cited to other families rather than rely solely on those within various branches of the clan of Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Elystan, and by obit notices cited for some of them.

We conclude by acknowledging this identification of "Aaron Paen" means the actual wife taken by Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Elystan Glodrydd is unknown; there was no Aaron among the ancestors of Payne fitz John. Although the "ap Io" can be read as an abbreviation for "ap John", there was also no Meirchion in his ancestry...John is cited as "fitz Eustace of Conteville" and the latter is probably the Eustace fitz John listed in the Roll of Battle Abbey as a companion of William of Normandy at Hastings.[11] We suspect the mythical Meirchion is simply a name appended to make it appear Idnerth married a Welsh lady. But the Idnerth we identify as the lady's husband would have flourished in the final quarter of the 12th century, and his grandfather had peacefully coexisted with Payne fitz John. A marriage between those two families is not only possible, but even probable. The grandfathers of both the lady and of our putative Idnerth ap Cadwgan ap Madog had been, at worst, political allies who shared a common foe in the Mortimers and a common friend in the king of England. Madog ap Idnerth ap Cadwgan and Payne fitz John might even have become the kind of friends created by the mantra "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". While no wife is cited for Aaron fitz Payne, he may well have married into the same Welsh family.