Thomas Treneman
Events
Event | Date | Place | Description | Notes | Sources |
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Birth | 17 March 1819 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England | "Bastard" (from Parish Record) |
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Baptism | 4 April 1819 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England |
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Maintenance Order | 17 May 1919 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England | Father named as William Fursdon |
17.05.1819 - Bastard Order made,
Elizabeth to pay 8 pence a week to the Overseers of the Poor, |
4a 5b |
Marriage | 7 May 1847 | Exeter, Devon, England | Exeter Cathedral |
Cathedral Church of St Peter, Church of England
Married Step sister / brother.
Grace signed with her mark. At the time of their marriage they were living in a church owned property nearby. He was a Mason and I believe he must have been working at the cathedral at the time and that is why they were allowed to marry there. |
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Death | 1888 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England |
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Burial | 8 February 1888 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England | aged 68 |
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Occupation |
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Occupation | 1841 | Mason |
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Occupation | 1851 | Mason |
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Occupation | 1861 | Mason |
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Occupation | 1864 | Labourer |
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Occupation | 1868 | Mason |
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Occupation | 1871 | Mason |
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Occupation | 1881 | Mason |
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Addresses |
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Residence | 1841 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England | High Street |
Thomas Ellacott 25 1816 Farm Labourer Devon |
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Residence | 1847 | Exeter, Devon, England | Catherine Street |
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Residence | 1851 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England | 15, High Street |
Thomas Trenaman Head Married 32 1819 Mason Hatherleigh, Devon |
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Residence | 1861 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England | High Street |
Thomas Trenaman Head Married 42 1819 Mason Hatherleigh, Devon |
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Residence | 1871 | Hatherleigh, Devon, England | High Street |
Thomas Treneman Head 51 1820 - Devon |
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Residence | 1881 | Okehampton, Devon, England | 12 Higher Street |
Thomas Trenaman Head Married 62 1819 Mason Hatherleigh, Devon |
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Parents
Relation to main person | Name | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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Father | William Fursdon | |
Mother | Elizabeth Trenaman [T-3x-ggp] | |
Thomas Treneman | ||
Father | William Fursdon | |
Stepmother | Susanna Collacott | |
Stepfather | James Trenaman [T-3x-ggp] | |
Mother | Elizabeth Trenaman [T-3x-ggp] | |
Half-sister | Elizabeth Treneman | |
Stepfather | John Short | |
Mother | Elizabeth Trenaman [T-3x-ggp] |
Families
  |   | Family of Thomas Treneman and Grace Short | ||||||||||||
Married | Wife | Grace Short | ||||||||||||
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Children |
Narrative
Elizabeth Trenaman b1791, the mother of Thomas b1819, married John Short b1785, the father of Grace b1830, who later became Elizabeth's son, Thomas's wife.
Narrative
Abraham Fursdon married Grace Treneman 05.01.1804 in Hatherleigh, Devon.
Was it Abraham's brother who got Elizabeth Trenaman [1791] pregnant with her son Thomas ? [Father William Fursdon]
Elizabeth Trenaman b.1791 and Grace Treneman b.1782, fairly close in age, were probably good friends as well as relatives, and it is very likely that Elizabeth was in the Fursdon household quite a lot and that is where she became so involved with William, stepson and relative of Grace on the Murrain and White family lines, and grandson of John Murrin and Anne White. This must have placed Grace in an impossible position when she learned that Elizabeth was expecting William’s baby and the fact that he could not, or did not, want to get married. Added to this problem is the fact that Grace Fursdon, being the daughter of Thomas Trenaman b.1729, would have been a first cousin of William Trenaman bapt.1761, father of Elizabeth b.1791, and it is highly likely that Elizabeth's son born in 1819 was named Thomas after the father that Grace Fursdon nee Treneman never knew.
Joy E-mail 24.12.2015
Pedigree
Ancestors
Source References
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Parish Records: Devon Family History Society
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- Date: 5 March 2011
- Page: Church Records index - Baptism - Thomas Treneman
- Confidence: Very High
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Familysearch web site
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- Date: 6 March 2011
- Page: Book 3a / Baptism / page.8a - Thomas Treneman
- Confidence: Very High
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Source Reference Note:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:....C05104-1
System Origin:..................................England-ODM
Source Film Number:........................917141
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Parish Records: Certificate - Baptism - Parish Record
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- Date: 4 April 1819
- Page: Thomas Trenaman at findmypast.co.uk
- Confidence: Very High
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Citation:
Archive reference 2917A/PR/1/6
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
Book 3a / Baptism / page.15a - Thomas Treneman
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- Date: 26 December 1864
- Page: Sarah Jane Trenaman at findmypast.co.uk
- Confidence: Very High
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Citation:
Archive reference 2917A/PR/1/7
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
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Joy Walker nee Barker: E-mails from Joy Walker nee Barker
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- Date: 24 May 2011
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Page: /home/les/.gramps-2/E-mails/
- Confidence: Very High
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- Date: 31 May 2011
- Page: Book 6a / E-mails / 13 / page.1 to 4
- Confidence: Very High
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Parish Council / Overseers of the Poor: Parish Bastard Records
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- Date: 18 March 1815
- Page: Book 3a / Documents / page.10 - Elizabeth Ettershank
- Confidence: Very High
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- Date: 17 May 1819
- Page: Book 3a / Documents / page.10a - Thomas Treneman
- Confidence: Very High
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English Government: 1861 Census - Find my Past
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- Date: 8 April 1861
- Page: 1861 Census-TRENAMAN, Thomas-OKEHAMPTON, Devonshire-RG09 piece 1466 folio 48 page 34
- Confidence: Very High
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English Government: Marriage Registration - Free BMD
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- Date: June 1847
- Page: 1847-Exeter-2q-Vol.10-page.156
- Confidence: Very High
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Neil Trenaman: E-mails from Neil Trenaman
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- Date: 13 May 2014
- Page: E-mails from Neil Trenaman
- Confidence: Very High
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Parish Records: Certificate - Marriage - Parish Record
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- Date: 7 May 1847
- Page: Thomas Trenaman and Grace Short at findmypast.co.uk
- Confidence: Very High
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Citation:
Archive reference Exeter/Cathedral/8
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
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- Date: 19 July 1868
- Page: John Short Trenaman and Ann Alford at findmypast.co.uk
- Confidence: Very High
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Citation:
Archive reference 2917A/PR/1/11
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
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English Government: Death Registration - Free BMD
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- Date: March 1888
- Page: 1888-Okehampton-1q-Vol.5b-page.325
- Confidence: High
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Parish Records: Certificate - Burial - Parish Record
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- Date: 8 February 1888
- Page: Thomas Trenaman at findmypast.co.uk
- Confidence: Very High
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Citation:
Archive reference 2917A/PR/1/21
Record set Devon Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
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English Government: 1841 Census - Find my Past
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- Date: 7 June 1841
- Page: 1841 Census-TRENAMAN, Thomas-OKEHAMPTON, Devonshire-HO107 piece 257 folio 14 page 23
- Confidence: Very High
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English Government: 1851 Census - Find my Past
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- Date: 31 March 1851
- Page: 1851 Census-TRENAMAN, Thomas-OKEHAMPTON, Devonshire-HO107 piece 1885 folio 161 page 46
- Confidence: Very High
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English Government: 1871 Census - Find my Past
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- Date: 3 April 1871
- Page: 1871 Census-TRENAMIN, Thomas-OKEHAMPTON, Devonshire-RG10 piece 2151 folio 46 page 25
- Confidence: Very High
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English Government: 1881 Census - Find my Past
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- Date: 4 April 1881
- Page: 1881 Census-TRENAMAN, Thomas-OKEHAMPTON, Devonshire-RG11 piece 2223 folio 46 page 30
- Confidence: Very High
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