Miscellaneous Treneman
Birth Name | Miscellaneous Treneman |
Gender | male |
Age at Death | greater than 105 years |
Events
Event | Date | Place | Description | Notes | Sources |
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Birth | 1000 |
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Death | 2000 | Miscellaneous information on Trenaman |
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Parents
Relation to main person | Name | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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Brother | Miscellaneous Christmas | |
Brother | Miscellaneous Devon | |
Brother | Miscellaneous Ellacott | |
Brother | Miscellaneous Fairminer | |
Brother | Miscellaneous Hatherleigh | |
Brother | Miscellaneous Places information / photos | |
Brother | Miscellaneous Trenaman | |
Miscellaneous Treneman |
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Meaning of Treneman (Cornish) = Settlement of the tribe named man - Pre Christian. (from Researcher for the Cornish independent movement 1972)
First recorded Trenamans came from St Mellion/Pillaton area in Cornwall in the 1500's [from Neil Trenaman 2014]
Trenaman - Treneman - Are the main spellings of the name. I am satisfied that they are both the same Bloodline. There are far more Trenaman than Treneman, in the records.
Other changes to spelling is Trinaman - Trineman and Trinnaman
There's are a lot more spellings in the records, but these are the name being misspelt when it has been written down from a pronunciation of the name, but most are transcription errors.
In our branch we say Trenaman but spell it Treneman, Just to make things harder.
The names is spelt Trenaman or Treneman in different records for the same person and children name can be spelt different ways in the same Family up to about 1900.
The spellings used in the "Family Tree" are taken from the 1911 census if there is one, and that name is applied to all that family, being the way that family spells it.
If no 1911 census, then the main spelling used for a family is applied to all that family.
Les Treneman 21.03.2011
Treneman´s are rare in the England but there are some in the USA.
The Treneman´s started out in Cornwall UK and some were Tin miners and went to USA for the gold rush as there was a big demand for miners at the time.
transcription errors
Srenaman
Trenamen
Trenamon
Trenemen
Trennamen
Trinanan
Trennamen
Trenneman
Trenniman
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Tom Treneman's Ghost
Haunted England: The Penguin Book of Ghosts
By Jennifer Westwood 6 May 2010
DEVON
Black Anne Pool Commemorated in an anonymous Victorian poem entitled 'A Legend' is the story of Tom Treneman
Black Anne Pool
"Tom Treneman, a fifteenth-century squire of Sowford House, Ivybridge, Devon, who reappeared in his kitchen after his funeral, frightening his scullion to death.
Twelve parsons were summoned, got a halter round the ghost's neck, and led him to Black Anne Pool in the River Erme, which rises on Dartmoor and flows through Ivybridge on its way to Bigbury Bay.
There Treneman was given the endless task of making a beam of sand.
When the river is in Spate, the grinding of boulders is said to be Tom roaring for more rope.
The Poem is cited by Elias Tozer in 1873, and by various more recent writers:
Tozer recalled how as a boy he had thought he saw Treneman working by the river, wearing a red cap."
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No Trenamans have been found in North Petherwin following the baptism of James in 1734.
Both parents had died by 1744 and two of the brothers William and Thomas settled in Hatherleigh.
James Trenaman, b.1734, must have been in Hatherleigh at some stage with his two older brothers because it is not feasible that he would have been left in North Petherwin following the death of their parents. However, he probably decided that being a mason was not for him and joined the Navy.
Joy Walker e-mail 29.08.2014
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There is a Trenaman Library in Wesley College - South Perth, Australia
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Hello Les,
Thanks for the reply.
Your Trenaman family at south Petherin must be connected, the Cornwall side that I follow are from St Ive ( between Callington & Liskeard ) Quethiock , Menheniot & Pillaton. the distance must be about 20 miles from yours. but as ever its having the proof ! I see someone on line is pretty sure there's a connection, her web site is below yours.
St Ive parish has a brilliant web site which has all early BMD headstones and more its worth a look, if only all parishes did the same.
The Trenaman from Ireland is he called Adrian (yes) as I saw his web site , he traced his family back to Pillaton. I have not made contact as yet.
The web is great for researching family history but there are many gaps and mistakes. maybe some time I will take a trip down to Cornwall records office .I,am not too far away at Exeter.
I,am lucky in that I,am on the door step of Devon records office, so if there is anything you want me to look up when I next visit let me know
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best wishes
Amanda - Book 6a / E-mails / 18 / page 2
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Inter mixing of the blood lines
There is a later Clement/White link when Mary White married John Clements on 9 October 1803 Iddesleigh. (? descendants in North Tawton in the 1800s).
(The Murrain, Angel and White families of Hatherleigh were linked - Edward White married Joan Angel on 15 July 1754 Hatherleigh and John Murrain married Anne White on 9 May 1762 Hatherleigh)
John Murain m. Ann White on 9 May 1762
(Of note are the surnames Hawking/Hockin, Ellacott, Trenaman, Rice, Collins, Veal and Adger found at Calstock, indicating a possible earlier relationship between the Trenaman and Ellacott families)
(from Joy Walker
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Regarding the Taylors I have found the following marriages and wonder if they are also connected to Thomas Ellacott and Elizabeth Trenaman because Thomas Ellacott's mother was Elizabeth Howard and Ann Ellacott's husband James White Marles was descended from the Couch family. Also I believe some descendants of Thomas Trenaman and Mary White were living in North Tawton. I am descended from the White family via John Hurford and Mary White, and there were a few Hurford/White marriages before theirs - all wheels within wheels. Apparently the Hurfords were really Hereford, but over the years it changed to Hurford and Herford.
William Taylor m. Elenor Howard on 9 Jun 1788 North Tawton
John Taylor m. Mary Couch on 19 Mar 1828 Bickington
from Joy Walker nee Barker by E-mail
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Marriage Devon
Joanna Treneman married John Ching 06.12.1810 at Hatherleigh, Devon - Family Search site
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Cornwall News 1847
HORSE STEALING - On Thursday, the 11th instant, a man named WILLIAM TRENAMAN, charged with stealing a mare, the property of MR. SOWDEN, of Bicton farm, in the parish of St. Ive, was landed at Plymouth from the island of Guernsey, where he had been apprehended by BRENT, a constable of Devonport. It seems the robbery was committed on the 18th of 19th of January last, and that the mare was found in the possession of some gipseys, who had bought her from a man named CORRIE, to whom she had been sold by Trenaman for a small sum. The thief was found working in a stone quarry in Guernsey, and the day after his arrival at Plymouth was taken before the Rev. Dr. FLETCHER and W. D. RORNDON. Esq., at Callington, where he was examined and afterwards committed to Bodmin gaol to take his trial at the approaching assizes.
from Thelma Findlay
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad/cornwall/1847/misc/feb.html
The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, TRANSCRIPTIONS OF THE ORIGINAL NEWSPAPER, 1836 - 1887 A Project created by Julia Symons Mosman and Rita Bone Kopp
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Hanna, Located in East-Central Alberta within the Canadian Badlands, Hanna is approximately 2 hours north-east of Calgary.
When the town of Hanna was established people from all over North America arrived and within several months the new town boasted a population of almost 1,000 souls. Many from the homesteads in the surrounding area moved into the townsite to establish businesses. The first to arrive was J.C. Trenaman and his family who had homesteaded in the Hand Hills. When they arrived they were among the fortunate few to have a building waiting for them. It was located on the southeast corner of the townsite and served as home and office. The building was eventually moved to the corner of second avenue and main street were it served a variety of occupants until it was demolished in the early 1980's to make way for the Tower Park Mall.
Mrs. Trenaman, a graduate of the Montreal General Hospital was the first nurse in the new town.
The Trenamans were only the first of many to arrive in the weeks and months. Many of the newcomers had spent months on the trail carrying their effects overland by team and wagon from all points of North America.
Some of the ranchers and homesteaders left the area with their families in the fall to avoid the harsh winter. They had been unable to build adequate shelter on the homesteads to face a prairie winter.
Hanna Harness Co.J.E. Jones, a homesteader from the area had the first harness shop which he operated for a number of years. He and J.C. Trenaman carried on a feud over who had the first building in Hanna. Jones started his building first, but the Trenaman building was the first to be completed. The Jones building and the original Empire Theater building were both burned in a major fire.
http://www.hanna.ca/Visitors/History/TheSettlers.aspx
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Tranaman A place in Chile