Harriet Paynter nee Treniman

Harriet Treniman [Cornwall]

Birth Name Harriet Treniman [Cornwall] 1a

    Also spelt Harriet Treneman

    I find Harriett and her husband John Paynter very interesting for what they did. To travel at that time was difficult, but to do so with small children (having some along the way) is truly amazing. It had to be a lot on Harriett as they did not have throw-away diapers or formula to make it a little easier. They went from Cornwall to NJ and back to Cornwall in a 10 year period (about). Harriett then came back to the US, as did all the living children which again amazes me.
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    Harriet Treniman was married to John Paynter who was the brother of my GGM Grace Trengove nee Paynter. They were born in Cornwall and moved to the US around 1865. Her father John Paynter Sr. and mother Mary Paynter nee Rowett came with them.
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    From Trengrove(2) Tree by jtrengrove1 on Ancestry

Married Name Harriet Paynter 2a
Gender female
Age at Death 63 years, 5 months

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth March 1843 Gwennap, Cornwall, England  
1a
Marriage 23 May 1863 St Day, Cornwall, England  

Established Church after Banns
Both of this Parish
Harriet signed her mark
Witnesses
Caroline Gregor
John Yeoman

2a 3a
Emigration 1865 United States of America. New York

Harriet Paynter nee Treniman with husband John and 3 children, his sister Grace Trengove nee Paynter and husband James and their parents John Paynter and Mary Paynter nee Rowatt

3b
Immigration between 1875 and 1877 Cornwall, England  

All the family returned to Cornwall England

3b
Emigration 1900 United States of America. Arrival Date 18 Aug 1900

Harriet, mother with daughter Phidella
Port of Departure
Southampton, England
Port of Arrival
New York, New York
Ship Name St Louis

3b
Death 1 August 1906 United States of America. aged 63 Newark New Jersey

Living in Millburn NJ.

3b 4a
Burial 1906 New Jersey, United States of America  

Emanual Methodist Church in Springfield NJ
Buried with her son Sylvester and his two wives.
Also buried at this location is her daughter Phidella and her husband Francis Eugene Lee

3b
  Addresses  
 
Residence 1851 Redruth - St Uny, Cornwall, England Poldice, Gwennap

John Treneman Head Married 42 1809 Engine Man Redruth, Cornwall
Grace Treneman Wife Married 38 1813 - Gwennap, Cornwall
Mary Treneman Daughter Unmarried 17 1834 Work At The Mine Gwennap, Cornwall
John Treneman Son Unmarried 15 1836 Work At The Mine Gwennap, Cornwall
Elizabeth Treneman Daughter Unmarried 14 1837 Work At The Mine Gwennap, Cornwall
Nanny Treneman Daughter Unmarried 12 1839 Work At The Mine Gwennap, Cornwall
Thomas Treneman Son Unmarried 10 1841 Work At The Mine Gwennap, Cornwall
Harriet Treneman Daughter Unmarried 8 1843 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall
William Treneman Son Unmarried 6 1845 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall
Richard Treneman Son Unmarried 4 1847 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall
Edwin Treneman Son Unmarried 1 1850 - Gwennap, Cornwall
Elizabeth Curnow Visitor Unmarried 18 1833 Dress Maker Gwennap, Cornwall

5a
Residence 1861 Redruth - St Uny, Cornwall, England Jewell Row Gwennap

John Treneman Head Married 51 1810 Miner Redruth, Cornwall
Grace Treneman Wife Married 48 1813 - Gwennap, Cornwall
Harriet Treneman Daughter Unmarried 18 1843 Rope Factory Gwennap, Cornwall
William Treneman Son Unmarried 16 1845 Miner Gwennap, Cornwall
Richard Treneman Son Unmarried 13 1848 Miner Gwennap, Cornwall
Edwin Treneman Son Unmarried 11 1850 Farm Labourer Gwennap, Cornwall
Emily Treneman Daughter Unmarried 7 1854 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall
Alfred Treneman Son Unmarried 4 1857 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall

5b
Residence 1870 New Jersey, United States of America 611 Rockaway, Morris

Harriet Paynter
Age in 1870 - 28
Birth Year abt 1842
Dwelling Number 611
Home in 1870 Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey
Post Office Rockaway
Cannot Read Yes
Cannot Write Yes
Spouse John Painter Mason
Children
Alfred Paynter
Annie Paynter 3 years old
Frederic Paynter

Living next to John,s sister Mary Day and husband Samual and son Samual

6a 3b
Residence 4 April 1881 Redruth [RD] Cornwall. England Vogue

John Paynter Head Married 37 1844 Stone Mason Redruth, Cornwall
Harriet Paynter Wife Married 37 1844 Stone Mason Wife Carharrack, Cornwall
Alfred Paynter Son Single 17 1864 Tin Miner St Day, Cornwall
Annie Paynter Daughter Single 14 1867 Home Helper St Day, Cornwall
Fred Paynter Son Single 11 1870 Scholar - United States
Cora Paynter Daughter Single 7 1874 Scholar United States
John Paynter Son Single 5 1876 - Londonderry, Canada
Eva Paynter Daughter Single 3 1878 - Vogue, Cornwall
Sylvester Paynter Son Single 1 1880 - Vogue, Cornwall
Della Paynter Daughter Single 0 1881 - Vogue, Cornwall

3b 7a
Residence 6 April 1891 Gwennap, Cornwall, England Tolcarne

Harriet Paynter Head Widow 47 1844 Maintained by Her Children Cornwall
John Paynter Son Single 15 1876 Tin Dresser United States
Sylvester Paynter Son Single 11 1880 Scholar Cornwall
Phidella Paynter Daughter Single 10 1881 Scholar Cornwall

8a 3b
Residence 1906 New Jersey, United States of America Newark
3b

Parents

Relation to main person Name Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father John Treniman [Cornwall]
Mother Grace Curnow
    Sister     Mary Jane Treneman [Cornwall]
    Brother     John Treniman [Cornwall]
    Sister     Elizabeth Treneman [Cornwall]
    Sister     Nanny Treneman [Cornwall]
    Brother     Thomas Treneman [Cornwall]
         Harriet Treniman [Cornwall]
    Brother     William Treneman [Cornwall]
    Brother     Richard Treneman [Cornwall]
    Brother     Edwin Triniman [Cornwall]
    Sister     Emily Treneman [Cornwall]
    Brother     Alfred Treneman [Cornwall]

Families

    Family of John Paynter and Harriet Treniman [Cornwall]
Married Husband John Paynter
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage (Primary) 23 May 1863 St Day, Cornwall, England  

Established Church after Banns
Both of this Parish
Harriet signed her mark
Witnesses
Caroline Gregor
John Yeoman

2a 3a
  Children
  1. Annie Paynter
  2. Louisa Paynter
  3. Frederick Paynter
  4. Cora Paynter
  5. John Frederick Paynter
  6. Eva Paynter
  7. Sylvester Paynter
  8. Phidella Paynter

Media

Harriet Paynter nee Treniman

Harriet Paynter nee Treniman

Narrative

Harriet and her husband John were very interesting people.
They were married in Cornwall and had several children there. They then moved to NJ and had a child here. They then moved to New Haven Conn where they had a child, then to New London Canada where they had a child, and then back to Cornwall. They had a couple more children there as well as losing some children there.
When John Paynter died Harriet moved back to NJ where most of her children had returned to.
She is buried with her son Sylvester and his two wives in Springfield NJ. I have a photo of her headstone on line, as well as marriage and death certificates.
One of her sons Alfred moved to Butte Montana and was a mason there for a mining company and was very successful.
Most of the Paynter children were masons.
I have to do some more digging into my notes, but as I recall two of the children who remained in Cornwall for a short time lived with Harriett's sister [Emily ? Les T] who never married.
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Trengrove Family Tree (2) on Ancestry by jtrengrove1

Pedigree

  1. John Treniman [Cornwall]
    1. Grace Curnow
      1. Mary Jane Treneman [Cornwall]
      2. John Treniman [Cornwall]
      3. Elizabeth Treneman [Cornwall]
      4. Nanny Treneman [Cornwall]
      5. Thomas Treneman [Cornwall]
      6. Harriet Treniman [Cornwall]
        1. John Paynter
          1. Annie Paynter
          2. Louisa Paynter
          3. Frederick Paynter
          4. Cora Paynter
          5. John Frederick Paynter
          6. Eva Paynter
          7. Sylvester Paynter
          8. Phidella Paynter
      7. William Treneman [Cornwall]
      8. Richard Treneman [Cornwall]
      9. Edwin Triniman [Cornwall]
      10. Emily Treneman [Cornwall]
      11. Alfred Treneman [Cornwall]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. English Government: Birth Registration - Find my Past
      • Date: March 1843
      • Page: 1843-Redruth-1q-Vol.9-page.261
      • Confidence: Very High
  2. Parish Records: Certificate - Marriage - Parish Record
      • Date: 23 May 1863
      • Page: Harriet Treniman
      • Confidence: Very High
  3. Family Tree, Ancestry.co.uk
      • Date: 3 June 2019
      • Page: Paul Northey Family Tree by northey_paul
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 3 May 2019
      • Page: From Trengrove Tree by jtrengrove1 on Ancestry
      • Confidence: Very High
  4. English Government: Certificate - Death
      • Date: 1 August 1906
      • Page: From jtrengrove on Ancestry.co.uk
      • Confidence: Very High
  5. English Government: 1851 Census - Find my Past
      • Date: 31 March 1851
      • Page: John Treniman
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        Registration district Redruth
        Archive reference HO107
        Piece number 1914
        Folio 127
        Page 3
        Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

      • Date: 8 April 1861
      • Page: John Treniman
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        Registration district Redruth
        Enumeration district 10
        Archive reference RG09
        Piece number 1576
        Folio 108
        Page 3

  6. 1870 United States Federal Census
      • Date: 1870
      • Page: Publisher Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        Year: 1870; Census Place: Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey; Roll: M593_878; Page: 437A; Image: 298; Family History Library Film: 552377

  7. English Government: 1881 Census - Find my Past
      • Date: 4 April 1881
      • Page: Harriet Paynter nee Treniman
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        Registration district Redruth
        Archive reference RG11
        Piece number 2328
        Folio 41
        Page 15
        Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

  8. English Government: 1891 Census - Find my Past
      • Date: 6 April 1891
      • Page: Harriet Paynter nee Treniman
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        Registration district Redruth
        Archive reference RG12
        Piece number 1844
        Folio 60
        Page 22
        Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census