Lilian Rose Fairminer

Birth Name Lilian Rose Fairminer 1a 1b

    It appears to be a tradition of this branch of the Fairminer's, that they never use their first birth name, for daily use.

Nick Name Rose
Married Name Lilian Rose Treneman 2a 3a

    Bereavement cards in her file

Gender female
Age at Death 87 years, 6 months

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth 25 September 1915 Frimley, Surrey, England North Lodge, Mytchett Place
1a 1b 4a
Baptism Friday 23 March 1917 Frimley Green, Surrey, England St Andrews Church, Anglican

Minister: The Reverend A.B. Sayee
Sponsors
Louisa Fairminer [mother]
Rose Haody?

5a
Marriage 25 June 1938 Frimley, Surrey, England Mytchelt Baptist Chapel, Mytchelt Road

Mytchelt Baptist Chapel, Mytchelt Road, Frimley

Witness - T Fairminer [Father] & A J Fairminer [Brother]
Minister - Mr Paris

2a 6a 3a
Retirement 1978    
7a
Death 25 March 2003 Banstead, Surrey, England aged 88 at Warren Lodge, 126 Warren Road
8a 9a
Cause Of Death 2003   Bronchopneumonia / Diabetes / old age
9a
Cremation 4 April 2003 Morden, Surrey, England North East Surrey Crematorium

Cremated at North East Surrey Crematorium,
Lower Morden Road, Morden, Surrey.
Ashes scattered with her Husband Walter
Plot 247 / 18 [39D6 ?]
at Aldershot Park Crematorium.
The Park Crematorium
Guildford Road
Aldershot
Hampshire
GU12 4BP

W.A. Truelove & Son Ltd
£1864.00

Sympathy Cards in Book 2a Certificates and Documents page 2

10a
Will 2003   Equal shares to her 4 children

Warren & Co Solicitors / Lloyds Bank, Streatham

11a
Religion 1938   Baptist

Lilian Baptised Anglican
Walter's Workhouse record at birth gives Non conformist.
Married Baptist
Walter's Army record gives Congregationalist.

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  Occupation  
 
Occupation from 1929 to 1938   Domestic servant [Started in Service aged 14]
2a
Occupation 1939   Unpaid Domestic [Housewife]
13a
Occupation between 1958 and 1973   Cleaner [Own account] Domestic
14a 14b
Occupation between about 1975 and 1978   Part time cleaner

Having moved to Normandy near Guildford, Walter and wife Lilian got a job with the GPO in their warehouse at Slyfield TEC as a part time cleaners
Retired from there 31 August 1978 [ From Official Secrets Acts Declaration]
Lilian told Irene Treneman nee Drury, one of her jobs was to clean a large board room with a long, long table.

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  Addresses  
 
Residence 1915 Frimley, Surrey, England Born - North Lodge Mytchett Place
1a 4a 16a
Residence 25 June 1938 Camberley, Surrey, England Heatherdene, Frimley Road

1936-1939 Thomas and Louise registered to vote
1937-+ William George & Alfred James Fairminer
plus Lillian Rose Fairminer

2a 16a
Residence 1 July 1938 Clarkenwell, London, England c/o Mrs Godfrey 10 St James Street (SE1)

This appears to be St James Road, not Street,
and has been demolished, sometime before 2011
from Les Treneman

This address was taken from Army Post Cards sent by her husband
Walter during his Army service.
The type that was pre-printed and the solder just crossed out the lines
that did not apply and then the censor blacked out still more !
(BRITISH FIELD SERVICE POSTCARD) - WW2 post card is in Gallery.

17a
Residence 1939 Poplar, London, England 186 Crisp Street

Living with Lilian's sister, Florence and her family

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Residence 1939 Frimley and Camberley U.D., Surrey, England 6 Bedford Lane

8 people in house
Thomas Fairminer 03 Jun 1881 Water Company Labourer Married
Louisa F Fairminer 08 Dec 1884 Unpaid Domestic Married
Ronald J Fairminer 01 Apr 1924 Hospital Porter Single
Kathleen Day (Fairminer) 22 Oct 1919 Domestic Servant Single
Ethel A Fairminer 19 Jun 1918 Seeking Work Single [Married H Puttock 1946]
Lilian R Trenaman 25 Sep 1915 Unpaid Domestic Married
Norman H Day 25 Aug 1920 Carpenter Single [Married Joan K J Fairminer 1945]
Sorry, this record is officially closed

Sometime after Louisa died [1944] Aunt Bessie [Winifred] moved in with her father Thomas.

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Residence 6 April 1940 Axminster, Devon, England c/o Station House

To Stay with Walter James and Loveday Grayer nee Treneman [Walter Treneman's Aunt]
Station Master at GWR Axminster Station
[Believed to be known as Bob and Doll]
I would say, that allowing for postal delays, the two postcards for Devon, were for one visit, not two as the postcards suggest.

POSSIBLE

The Treneman Family visited Bob around 1954, at their house? not the station? and Bob showed us the "Live Steam" railway engine he was building in his shed at the bottom of the garden, this was one of several he had built.
The type that rides on raised tracks in parks and give people rides.
This he did, with his partner? waving the start / stop flags.
from Les Treneman

17a
Residence 13 April 1940 Frimley Green, Surrey, England 6 Bedford Lane
17b
Residence 8 May 1940 Axminster, Devon, England c/o Station House

See note above

17c
Residence from 21 December 1941 to 21 May 1943 Frimley Green, Surrey, England 6 Bedford Lane
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Residence 6 January 1945 Maidstone, Kent, England 10 Pine Grove
14c 17d
Residence 16 April 1945 Maidstone, Kent, England 203 Boxley Road
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Residence between 1945 and 1947 Frimley Green, Surrey, England Bedford Lane
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Residence 4 September 1948 Wandsworth, London, England 37 Whitby House, Darvall Sq, East Hill (SW18)

[Council flat]

14c 1c
Residence from 1952 to 1969 Streatham, London, England 5 Adare Walk [SW16]

[Council flat]

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Residence from 1974 to 1981 Guildford, Surrey, England 14 Chapel Farm Caravan Park, Normandy (GU3 2BB)

Mobile home - Purchased

21a
Residence 25 January 1980 Guildford, Surrey, England 14 Chapel Farm Caravan Park, Normandy (GU3 3BB)

Mobile home - Purchased

10c
Residence 13 June 1990 Guildford, Surrey, England Flat 9 Kaye Court, Hazel Avenue (GU1 1LE)

Church flat, rented

17e
Residence 1993 Sutton, Surrey, England 52 Trickett House, 125 Brighton Road (SM2 5SN)

Warden run, rented flat

17f
Residence 9 February 2003 Sutton, Surrey, England St Heliers Hospital
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Residence 2003 Banstead, Surrey, England Died - Warren Lodge, 126 Warren Road
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Parents

Relation to main person Name Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Thomas Fairminer
Mother Louisa Florence Neller
    Half-sister     Elsie Emily Jane Smith (Adopted, Birth)
    Sister     Florence Louisa Fairminer
    Brother     William George Thomas Fairminer
    Sister     Dorothy Lilian Lavina Fairminer
    Brother     Alfred James Fairminer
    Sister     Ivy Kate Fairminer
    Brother     Albert Charles Fairminer
    Sister     Winifred Bessie Fairminer
         Lilian Rose Fairminer
    Sister     Annie Evelyn Ethel Fairminer
    Sister     Joan Kathleen Joyce Fairminer
    Brother     Ronald John Fairminer
 
Stepfather Brick Wall [F-GrandpStep]
Mother Louisa Florence Neller
    Half-sister     Elsie Emily Jane Smith

Families

    Family of Walter Treneman and Lilian Rose Fairminer
Married Husband Walter Treneman
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage 25 June 1938 Frimley, Surrey, England Mytchelt Baptist Chapel, Mytchelt Road

Mytchelt Baptist Chapel, Mytchelt Road, Frimley

Witness - T Fairminer [Father] & A J Fairminer [Brother]
Minister - Mr Paris

2a 6a 3a

Media

Narrative

A story often told by Mum was about going down the woods to collect fir cones and bits of wood to sell as firewood to get 6d to go to the pictures on a Saturday. - Les Treneman (son)

Narrative

Another story was about an Aunt at Lilian's wedding reception (who was I think in the Salvation Army) when it came to the toast to the bride & Groom, shouted out ¨Stick to the good old lemonade¨ - Les Treneman
Was Ivy - William Fairminer´s wife - (from Janice Hills nee Day)

Narrative

Lilian Rose told Irene Treneman nee Drury that after her husband Walter died, she visited Bess and frank (Frank L and Winifred B Beagley nee Fairminer) at their house. When Bess went into the kitchen, Frank made "a play" for her. After this she would not go to the house but always arranged to met Bess some where in town. - Les Treneman 2010

Pedigree

  1. Thomas Fairminer
    1. Louisa Florence Neller
      1. Elsie Emily Jane Smith
      2. Florence Louisa Fairminer
      3. William George Thomas Fairminer
      4. Dorothy Lilian Lavina Fairminer
      5. Alfred James Fairminer
      6. Ivy Kate Fairminer
      7. Albert Charles Fairminer
      8. Winifred Bessie Fairminer
      9. Lilian Rose Fairminer
        1. Walter Treneman
      10. Annie Evelyn Ethel Fairminer
      11. Joan Kathleen Joyce Fairminer
      12. Ronald John Fairminer

Ancestors

Source References

  1. English Government: Certificate - Birth
      • Date: 25 September 1915
      • Page: Book 1a / Birth / page 4 - Lilian Rose Fairminer
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 25 September 1915
      • Page: Book 1a / Birth / page 13 - (Short Certificate) - Lilian Rose Fairminer
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 4 September 1948
      • Page: Book 1 / Births / page 17 - Les Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
  2. English Government: Certificate - Marriage
      • Date: 25 June 1938
      • Page: Book 1a / Marriage / page 11 - Lilian R Fairminer and Walter Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
  3. English Government: Marriage Registration - Ancestry.co.uk
      • Date: June 1938
      • Page: 1938-Surrey North West-2q-Vol.2a-page.1119 - Lilian R Fairminer and Walter Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
  4. English Goverment: Registration - Ancestry.co.uk
      • Date: December 1915
      • Page: 1915-Farnham-4q-Vol.2a-page.192
      • Confidence: Very High
  5. English Government: Certificate - Baptism
      • Date: 23 March 1917
      • Page: /home/les/.gramps-2/Treneman/Fairminer/Lilian-1915
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        Book 2a Certificates and documents page 5

  6. British Army: British Army - WW2 - Service records
      • Date: between 1939 and 1945
      • Page: Book 2a / World War Two / page 1 to 40 - Walter Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Source Reference Note:

        Many Thanks to Georgina Ruddell nee Treneman for a copy of his Army Record. - Les Treneman

  7. British Govenment: Official Secrets Acts Declaration [Walter Treneman]
      • Date: 31 August 1978
      • Confidence: Very High
  8. English Government: Death Registration - Ancestry.co.uk
      • Date: March 2003
      • Page: 2003-East Surrey-March-Reg.No.ESE8-district.755/1E-entry.267
      • Confidence: Very High
  9. English Government: Certificate - Death
      • Date: 25 March 2003
      • Page: Book 2a Certificate and Documents page 1
      • Confidence: Very High
  10. Leslie Treneman: Personal from Les Treneman
      • Date: 2003
      • Page: Personal from Les Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 2008
      • Page: Personal from Les Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
  11. Alfred Walter Thomas Treneman: Personal from Alfred W T Treneman
      • Date: 2003
      • Page: Book 2a Certificates and Documents page p4 original
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Page: Original in Book 2a Certificates and Documents page 6
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 2009
      • Page: Personal from Alfred Walter Thomas Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
  12. Georgina Treneman: Personal from Georgina Treneman
      • Date: 21 December 2013
      • Page: Marylebone Workhouse records
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        Book 3a - Documents - page 29-31

  13. English Government: 1939 Census - Find my Past
      • Date: 29 September 1939
      • Page: Ref: RG101/1897J/023/33 Letter Code: DMMM
      • Confidence: Very High
  14. Walter Treneman: Photos from Lilian Rose Treneman
      • Date: 27 September 1973
      • Page: Book 1a / Documents / page 14
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 4 October 1973
      • Page: Book 1a / Documents / page 14a
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: between 1939 and 1945
      • Page: Book 1a / Documents / page 16
      • Confidence: Very High
  15. Irene Drury: Personal from Irene Treneman nee Drury
      • Confidence: Very High
  16. Electoral Registers UK Details
      • Date: 7 January 2018
      • Page: Ancestry.co.uk
      • Confidence: Very High
  17. Lilian Rose Treneman: Personal from Lilian Rose Treneman
      • Date: 6 April 1940
      • Page: from Army Post Cards sent by her husband Walter during his Army service.
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 13 April 1940
      • Page: from Army Post Cards sent by her husband Walter during his Army service.
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 8 May 1940
      • Page: from Army Post Cards sent by her husband Walter during his Army service.
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 1 July 1938
      • Page: from English Government - War Identification card
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 1990
      • Page: Personal from Lilian Rose Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 1993
      • Page: Personal from Lilian Rose Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Date: 2003
      • Page: Personal from Lilian Rose Treneman
      • Confidence: Very High
  18. London Councils: Electoral Registers, London, UK - 1832-1965
      • Date: 1939
      • Page: Electoral Registers, London, UK - 1832-1965
      • Confidence: Very High
  19. Jillian M Bromley: E-mails from Jillian M Bromley
      • Confidence: Very High
  20. Janice R Hills nee Day: E-mails from Janice R Hills nee Day
      • Date: 15 May 2016
      • Page: Annie Evelyn Ethel Fairminer
      • Confidence: Very High
  21. British Telecom (General Post Office): British Telecom (General Post Office) phone directories
      • Date: from 1974 to 1981
      • Page: Home Computer - ~/.gramps-2/Treneman/
      • Confidence: Very High