Robert Ernest Penny

Birth Name Robert Ernest Penny 1a
Gender male
Age at Death 55 years, 5 months, 12 days

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth 20 December 1908 Canterbury City of, Kent, England  
1a 2a
Marriage June 1935 Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales POSSIBLE ONLY to Annie O'Connell
3a
Death June 1964 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England aged 55
4a
  Occupation  
 
Military Service 1932   POSSIBLE ONLY Royal Artillery Number 824044

As his father was in the Army, it makes sense the son would be also ?

5a
  Addresses  
 
Residence 1911 Hislop Barracks Trimulgherry Deccan India Overseas Military

Gertrude, Ernest and son Robert

6a
Residence 1939   Census not found [In Armed Forces ?]
 

Parents

Relation to main person Name Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Ernest Humpheries Penny
Mother Mary Gertrude Bounds
         Robert Ernest Penny

Media

Narrative

Robert is, as you put it also a challenge !
It appears that they divorce ? between return from India 1914 and 1919, but Ernest was in the Army and if he had Robert at this time, who took care of him before Ernest second marriage ?
I can not find when Ernest returned from France or when he was discharged but he could have returned before the end of WW1 and was stationed in UK and met his 2nd wife then and may not have taken Robert till his second marriage.
I doubt he was discharged before 1918/1919 so no real time to meet and marry someone, so must have met her before his discharge. Les T

I now remember my father's sister, Gwendoline, who lived in Guildford, once saying that she knew Robert and liked him. She was born about 1916 (Robert would have been about 7 years older) so he must have been with his mother or visiting the family around that area at some time when my aunt would have been old enough to have got to know him. Joy

Have you put your finger on it ??
For Gwendoline to have "Known and liked" Robert, she would have to have been 7 or more ? [A 5 year old would be to young ?]

In the past it was very rare for a husband to have the children, except if he wife died.

So Robert would have been about 14 [1922] and his father's second marriage 3 years old.
This raises the possibility that it was Robert who asked to go and live with his father ?
This would be hard on his mother Gertrude as she would have suffered the lost of her husband and now her son. Les T

Pedigree

  1. Ernest Humpheries Penny
    1. Mary Gertrude Bounds
      1. Robert Ernest Penny

Ancestors

Source References

  1. English Government: Birth Registration - Find my Past
      • Date: December 1908
      • Page: Robert Ernest 1908
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        District CANTERBURY
        County Kent
        Country England
        Volume 2A
        Page 891
        Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006

  2. British Army: British Army - Pre WW1 - Service records
      • Date: 1897
      • Page: Ernest Humpheries Penny
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        Series WO 363
        Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
        Category Military, armed forces & conflict
        Subcategory First World War

  3. English Government: Marriage Registration - Find my Past
      • Date: June 1935
      • Page: Robert Ernest Penny
      • Citation:

        District BRIDGEND
        County Glamorganshire
        Country Wales
        Volume 11A
        Page 1600
        Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008

  4. English Government: Death Registration - Find my Past
      • Date: June 1964
      • Page: Robert Ernest Penny
      • Citation:

        District BRISTOL
        County Gloucestershire
        Volume 7B
        Page 222
        Country England
        Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

  5. British Army: British Army - WW2 - Service records
      • Date: 1932
      • Page: Robert Ernest Penny
      • Citation:

        Attestation year 1932
        Service number 824044
        Former service number -
        Record set Royal Artillery attestations 1883-1942
        Category Military, armed forces & conflict
        Subcategory Regimental & service records
        Collections from Great Britain

  6. English Government: 1911 Census - Find my Past
      • Date: 3 April 1911
      • Page: Mary Gertrude Bounds
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        County Overseas Military
        Country Ships And Overseas Establishments
        Archive reference RG14
        Registration district number 641
        Enumeration district 30
        Sub district number 16
        Census reference RG14PN34991 RD641 SD16 ED30 SN9999
        Piece number 34991
        Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales