Robert Ernest Penny
Birth Name | Robert Ernest Penny 1a |
Gender | male |
Age at Death | 55 years, 5 months, 12 days |
Events
Event | Date | Place | Description | Notes | Sources |
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Birth | 20 December 1908 | Canterbury City of, Kent, England |
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Marriage | June 1935 | Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales | POSSIBLE ONLY to Annie O'Connell |
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3a |
Death | June 1964 | Bristol, Gloucestershire, England | aged 55 |
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Occupation |
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Military Service | 1932 | POSSIBLE ONLY Royal Artillery Number 824044 |
As his father was in the Army, it makes sense the son would be also ? |
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Residence | 1911 | Hislop Barracks Trimulgherry Deccan India | Overseas Military |
Gertrude, Ernest and son Robert |
6a |
Residence | 1939 | Census not found [In Armed Forces ?] |
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Parents
Relation to main person | Name | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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Father | Ernest Humpheries Penny | |
Mother | Mary Gertrude Bounds | |
Robert Ernest Penny |
Media
Narrative
Robert is, as you put it also a challenge !
It appears that they divorce ? between return from India 1914 and 1919, but Ernest was in the Army and if he had Robert at this time, who took care of him before Ernest second marriage ?
I can not find when Ernest returned from France or when he was discharged but he could have returned before the end of WW1 and was stationed in UK and met his 2nd wife then and may not have taken Robert till his second marriage.
I doubt he was discharged before 1918/1919 so no real time to meet and marry someone, so must have met her before his discharge. Les T
I now remember my father's sister, Gwendoline, who lived in Guildford, once saying that she knew Robert and liked him. She was born about 1916 (Robert would have been about 7 years older) so he must have been with his mother or visiting the family around that area at some time when my aunt would have been old enough to have got to know him. Joy
Have you put your finger on it ??
For Gwendoline to have "Known and liked" Robert, she would have to have been 7 or more ? [A 5 year old would be to young ?]
In the past it was very rare for a husband to have the children, except if he wife died.
So Robert would have been about 14 [1922] and his father's second marriage 3 years old.
This raises the possibility that it was Robert who asked to go and live with his father ?
This would be hard on his mother Gertrude as she would have suffered the lost of her husband and now her son. Les T
Pedigree
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Ernest Humpheries Penny
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Mary Gertrude Bounds
- Robert Ernest Penny
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Mary Gertrude Bounds
Ancestors
Source References
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English Government: Birth Registration - Find my Past
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- Date: December 1908
- Page: Robert Ernest 1908
- Confidence: Very High
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Citation:
District CANTERBURY
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 891
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
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British Army: British Army - Pre WW1 - Service records
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- Date: 1897
- Page: Ernest Humpheries Penny
- Confidence: Very High
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Citation:
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
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English Government: Marriage Registration - Find my Past
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- Date: June 1935
- Page: Robert Ernest Penny
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Citation:
District BRIDGEND
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 1600
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
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English Government: Death Registration - Find my Past
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- Date: June 1964
- Page: Robert Ernest Penny
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Citation:
District BRISTOL
County Gloucestershire
Volume 7B
Page 222
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
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British Army: British Army - WW2 - Service records
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- Date: 1932
- Page: Robert Ernest Penny
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Citation:
Attestation year 1932
Service number 824044
Former service number -
Record set Royal Artillery attestations 1883-1942
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain
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English Government: 1911 Census - Find my Past
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- Date: 3 April 1911
- Page: Mary Gertrude Bounds
- Confidence: Very High
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Citation:
County Overseas Military
Country Ships And Overseas Establishments
Archive reference RG14
Registration district number 641
Enumeration district 30
Sub district number 16
Census reference RG14PN34991 RD641 SD16 ED30 SN9999
Piece number 34991
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
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