Descendants of John MANGUM

Second Generation

2. John MANGUM ^{1, 2} (John ) was born about 1674 in Lawns Creek, Surry County, Virginia. He died Sep 26 1737 in Upper Parrish, Isle of Wight County, Virginia and was buried in Mangum Estate.

John Mangum was the progenitor of most of the Mangums of the US, it seems.
He may have come from Santon, Ireland, which is a little village that once
stood outside of Dublin. It has now become a part of Dublin. "Santon"
was written in an old Mangum family Bible now in the possession of David
Mangum of Houston area. ("Santon" is written in, then crossed out and replaced
by "San Antonia" with the comment "near Dublin, Ireland" in the old James
Jameson Mangum Family Bible, copies of sheet was sent me by Grady Mangum.
of Texas prior to his death. It is interested that I did find a Santon,
Ireland, just outside of old Dublin, now a part of the city in the directionj
of the Dublin Airport.!

The descendants of Arthur Mangum, Sr of Orange Co, NC, firmly believe that the
Mangums are of Welsh Origin. This is noted in the Biographical History of NC in
discussing the Mangum line of Sen. Willie P. Mangum.

Delta Ivy Mangum Hale, who spent 40 years of research into the Mangum line
reports the following story which she notes has been handed down over the
years: This traditions states that two brothers in Isle of Man were playing and
accidentally broke a window. They ran, hid on a ship and went to sleep. When
they awakened they were out to sea on the way to the New World. This like-
likehood, James Parham noted in his article on the early Mangums, of this
having happened is debatable and there are other explanations for the lack of
Mangums on passenger lists. One obvious possibility, Parham wrote, is the fact
that many passenger lists were destroyed or lost over the years. Mrs. Hale's
book was published posthumously in 1971. At that time it could be ordered from
Mr. Elgie J. Hale, 1040 E. Arlington, Bountiful, Utah. Parham noted that Mrs.
Hale contributed much to Mangum research and without her he could not have
written his articles on the Mangum and Bennett families.

Sources: Southside VA Families, Vol 1, p. 58 & 17th Centuryu Isle of Wight
both by John Boddie; VA Mag. Vol 2, p. 104, 118, 119, & 151. Vir Am Pub
Vol II, p. 108.

Albermalre Parish by Boddie, p. 91-93. Wills & Admin of Isle of Wight by
Blanche Adams Chapman; Albermarle Parish Register 975.556 V26R & 975.55
V25.
!Research of Lester J. Mangum 9328 Twin Lake Ave, Orangevale CA 95662

John Mangum appears to be the earliest known Mangum to have left descendants.
My research and reading lead me to believe that perhaps ALL of the Mangums
in the South (VA, NC, SC, GA, TN, AL, MS, LA, TX, ARK) and Utah and California
descend from John Mangum. The Utah Clan of Mangums descend from a namesake
of this John, John Mangum who served in the Rev. War. Some of his children
and his wife Rebecca Mangum were converted to the Mormon religion, went through
Nauvoo, Illinois, on their trek to the Salt Lake area. There are many
descendants of John and Rebecca in the Utah area of the U.S. today.

Mangum genealogical notes developed by Miss Ruth Peebles of 308 Church Street,
Livingston, TX, 77351, which were photocopied in 1968 notes that the earliest
record of this family in America was in Isle of Wight County, VA, 23 March 1695
/96 when John Mangum bought land on Lowne's Creek in Surry County, VA.
The Quit Rent Rolls for 1704 show John Mangum owned 100 acres in this county.

James Parham, Editor of the Mangum Family Bulletin, in 1988 wrote, "I have
changed my mind many times over the years about wehat is going on with these
early families. Some of the changes were made while I was writing this article.
Below I am going to lisrt my ideas, working hypothesis if you will, about what
the records mean. Most are pure speculation and should be treated as such.
Ordinarily, we should try to stay away from speculation, relying instead on
solid facts. Unfortunately, with these early families there are few facts to
rely and speculation is the only thing we have left. Hopefully, this
speculation will eventually change. I suspect that if we ever do find enough
information to substantiate this line, then there will be many surprises which
although thoroughly logical, are completely unsuspected by present researchers.
1. Thomas Bennett was a relative of Edward Bennett.
2. Most or all the Bennetts in the New World were well known to each other.
3. Frances Mangum, wife of John, witnessed the will probabate of John Jennings
Jr. because they were kinfolks.
4. Frances was a daughter of either Silvester Bennett or maybe a deceased child
of Richard Bennett, Jr.
5. She married John Mangum, immigrant, around 1695.
6. One of their sons, John, married Olive Savadge.
7. This son witnessed the will of Richard Bennett, Sr (with father mentioned
in the Will) and the two daughters mentioned in the Will of Sarah Lancaster
were his.
8. John the immigrant was the father of the several families of Mangums listed
in the Albemarle Parish immediately after it was set up.
9. There were other immigrants beside John but he was the first to leave
descendents.

General References

John Mangum of Early Virginia, Article, MFB #4, Dec. 69
Southside Virginia Families by Boddie
Adventure of Purse & Person
Albemarle Parish Register
Encyclopedia
Nicholas Mangum Article, MFB

Mangum, John
Isle of Wight Co 1737 i.
Wills and Accounts, Vol 1733-1745, Reel 24
p. 189-190. Inv. & appr. rec 25 Noc 1737
p. 213. Accounts rec, 25 Sept 1738.

John married Frances Silvester BENNETT, daughter of Richard BENNETT Jr., on 1694 in Surry County, Virginia. Frances was born about 1686 in Upper Parish, Isle of Wight County, Virginia. She died after 1737 in Isle of Wight County, Virginia.

!"Frances Mangum is mentioned in the will of Richard Bennett, Lr. in 1720
and is called a granddaughter when he willed her a feather bed at his death.
Unfortunately we were given no hint as
to who her parents were. Silvester has been mentioned as a possible parents of
Frances or a deceased child of Richard Jr. could have been her parent. We
may never know. A tie that I would like to make, but just cannot make fit,
is that Frances was a daughter of Silvester and that the Frances that witnessedthe John Jennings Jr's probate in 1695 and the Silvester Hill who was mentioned
in the will were mother and daughter. Alas, that is not to be. That Sylvester
appears to be the daughter of Edward Bennett, an entirely different line.

"Using the assumptions above, then Frances likely did not have Bennett as her
maiden name. She also could have been born out of wedlock which was not un-
common then. (This is pure speculation.) Others want to believe that her
maiden name was bennett and that also is possible. There may have been a
daughter of John & Frances named Frances. The elder Frances would be the
daughter of Frences Bennett, Jr. Some point out that Richard Jr. would more
likely leave a feather bed to a young girl just starting out rather than to a
mature woman who probably had her own bed. The Frances mentioned in the
will would therefore be a young daughter of the mother Frances. In fact,
there is only circumstantial evidence that John Mangum married Frances at all.
Still, if there was a daughter Frances and a granddaughtezr Frances, why
mention the granddaughter and not the daughter in your will? It is unfor-
tunate that we cannot establish a definite birthday for Richard Jr. This
would have a definite influence on the likelihood that the granddaughter
Frances of Richard Jr's will was either a young girl or a mature married woman.

"And, if the above is not enough of a problem, then take a look at the deeds
of John Mangum. If he was married to Frances or anyone by 1695, then why did
not his wife sign any of the deeds where he sold land before 1700? Why is
the signature mark on the 1696 deed of John Mangum to George Morrell different
from the signature mark when John Mangum signs the will of Richard Bennett Sr.
Father and son maybe? Cousins?
Summary
!"As I promised you, we ask a lot of questions in this article and answered
few. To summarize the major questions, I will list a number of them again:
1. What was the origin of Thomas Bennett?
2. How was he related to the family of Edward Bennett?
3. How was the Mangums related to Edward Bennett?
4. How did John Mangum get to the New World?
5. Was he the one and only immigrant ancestor?
6. Did he marry Frances, granddaughter of Richard Bennett, Jr?
7. Who were her parents?
8. When did they marry?
9. Why is she not on deeds with John Mangum?
10.Why did she witness the will probate of John Jennings Jr. who married a
descendent of Edward Bennett?
11.Was there another John Mangum clouding up the records? Was he son of John
the immigrant? Was he the John that married Olive Savidge?
12.Why was no effort made to separate the two John Mangums in the records?
13.Was there a Frances, daughter of John and Frances Mangum?
14.Why was only two daughters of John Mangum mentioned in the will of Sarah
Lancaster?
15.What is the birthdate of Richard Bennett, Jr?" End of article
General References used by Editor Parham
1. John Mangum of Early Virginia. Article in MFB, #4, Dec, 1969
2. Southside Virginia Families by Boddie
3. 17th Century Isle of Wight by Boddie
4. Adventures of Purse and Person
5. Albemarle Parish Register, MFB #
6. Encyclopedia
7. Nicholas Mangum Article, MFB #

For information on the Chillingham Castle, home of the early Bennets in
Northumberland, England, see notes under Thomas Bennett, last of this line. RIN
9586.

See notes under Silvester Bennett, daughter of Richard Bennett, Jr, for Muriel
Minium's educated guess that the wife of John Mangum was named "Silvester
Frances Mangum."

John and Frances had the following children:

	3	M	i	John MANGUM was born about 1703 in Albermarle Parrish, Surry County, Virginia. He died about 1744 in Surry County, Virginia. Source: Vaughn Ballard's family history on Solomon Mangham, p 33
				John married Olive SAVAGE after 1721. Olive was born about 1705. She died after 1744 in Surry County, Virginia. Olive was the dau of Robert Savage and was the godparent to four children born in the Albemarle Parish of Surry Co, VA. Parents of these children included William Huler and wife, Selah; R. Purrier and wife Frances; Arthur Richardson and wife, Mary, and Willial amd wife, Selah. The relationship of these children to Olive is undetermined.
+	4	M	ii	William MANGUM was born about 1706 and died Dec 19 1744.
	5	F	iii	Frances MANGUM was born 1704/1727. Was this an infant that did not survive born just prior to Frances C. Mangum or is this a duplicated entry for Frances C. Mangum?
	6	F	iv	Frances C. MANGUM was born about 1708 in Isle of Wight County, Virginia.
+	7	M	v	Joseph MANGUM was born about 1710 and died about 1762.
+	8	F	vi	Mary Agnes MANGUM was born about 1710 and died 1794.
+	9	M	vii	Nicholas MANGUM was born about 1712 and died after 1761.
	10	F	viii	Sarah MANGUM was born about 1714 in Surry County, Virginia. She died about 1761 in Surry County, Virginia.
+	11	M	ix	James MANGUM was born about 1716 and died Feb 28 1783.
+	12	M	x	Henry MANGUM was born about 1720 and died about 1795.
+	13	M	xi	Samuel MANGUM was born about 1722 and died after 1761.

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