Signature of Edward B. Walker Genealogy of Edward B. Walker
1756-1838, Duplin County, North Carolina - Sullivan, Claiborne, Hancock Counties, Tennessee

 

Preprinted Objection Form



July 1833 (probably)

In addition to the deposition, the file contains an undated preprinted form which appears to be a Pension Office form used to raise questions about a pension claim. Objections were raised because the clerk's seal was not attached in the appropriate manner and because Edward had not answered a required question about there being a minister in the neighborhood who could testify for him.

No other evidence in the file indicates any additional correspondence relating to this issue. Presumably, the original declaration was sent back along with this form objecting to Edward's claim. Given the record above, quite possibly William Fugate simply added the additional statement regarding the minister after the fact, and Benjamin Cloud's statement clearly now has the seal and ribbon required by this document. While there were Baptist ministers in the area, Edward is thought to have been Methodist.

In addition, the fact that Cloud's authentication is dated three full months after the original declaration implies that he authenticated the documents a second time after the objections were raised; likewise, that date implies the date of this particular document as being sometime shortly before his certification.

Presumably, the corrected documents were sent back to the Pension Office with no further issues being raised. In any event, this form appears to raise only minor technical objections, and the pension was soon approved.

On the back is written "Edward Walker / Tennessee / Claiborne / from 1777 / private / 1 yr / #40 / Earl / Clk". Also, note the explanation for question 14; this text and the lack of that information in the record would imply that Edward's name was found in whatever records the War Department had available listing people who served.

In this transcription, items in italics are handwritten. The use of red ink mentioned cannot be determined without examining the originals, but no particular value in doing so would seem evident.

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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which there answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Edward Walker which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? [blank]

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes

V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine what amount of pension he is entitled? yes

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes

VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes

X. Is the Clerk’s seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? no[“yes” crossed out]

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? No

XII. If the clergyman’s affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? No If the application has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? one living witness imputed

XIV. if the application has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate administered the oath certified that he, she, or there are persons of credibility? yes Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office? yes

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant’s service? yes

XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 7 not answered

EXPLANATORY NOTES.

QUERE V. In a case where the application cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:

“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For ___ year ___ months and ___ days, I served as a ___. For ___ months and ___ days, I served as a ___; and for such service I claim a pension.”

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months [italics in original preprinted version] is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.

QUERE XIV: Proof of Service. [italics in original preprinted version]

In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oath must certify to the credibility of the witnesses and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers. [italics in original preprinted version]

In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape of narrow ribbon, the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper for being improperly attached to the certificate.

In every case where the Clerk of the Court or other certifying officer has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of Congress proving the official character of the certifying officers should be sent with the papers.

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