SOURCE: Judy Riley <firstname.lastname@example.org>
®Land deed,20 Sep1838, Deeds Liber 65, pg 308-310,--James McElroy of town of Monroe and Patience his wife sold to Robert Ashman of same place. for $1900 land "lying & being in the town of monroe and the patent of Cheesecocks & is part of the great Mountain lot #11-beginning at a bank with stones put around it at the south side of Mombasha Pond....Samuel Smith's line..165 acres more or less..signed by James McElroy and Patience McElroy witness John McGanob
®School records for District 1 in 1882, Monroe, Orange Co., New York--show the following...McElroys mentioned in school note: William McElroy, James McElroy, Daniel in 1831 James had 2 children in school-This information send by Anna Kessock, 9 Brooklyn Street, Port Jarvis, NY 12771
SOURCE: notes of Thor N Trolsen in 1999 letter to Judy Riley
I dont think I can add much to what you already have on the McElroys. Most of my information comes from the work of Elizabeth S. Smith, who is a descendant of Lydia Mcelroy and Hophni Smith. I garnered what I have from the records she submitted to the OCGS, Goshen, NY and some letters from her. I am enclosing the data I have and copies of transcribed letters from elizabeth Smith which might be of some interest to you. You will see that i do not have your Charlotte in my records, although the DOB you give would make a fit...
You mightalso be interested in the following: The 1855 NY State Census shows the following living in the same house: James McElroy, age 60; Patience, wife, age 58; James E. McElroy age 23; Lydia age 18; Martha age 14; Henry K age 3; David Corter, age 11 grandchild; John Early age 30 servant, born in Ireland.
From Elizabeth S Smith: James & Patience are buried in the Hamptonburgh Cemetery. she died of 'paralysis" at age 75, 16 Oct 1872 (Hampton NY Roster of Hamptonburgh Cem Assoc 1927) Copy in OCGS research room.
SOURCE: Notes from letters of Elizabeth S. Smith to Thor Trolsen, Nov 29 1992 as transcribed by Thor Trolsen for Judy Riley
I have the same information you have for #30 and 31 of your ancestor table (JamesMcElroy and Patience) Elizabeth Horton, Genealogist of Middletown Ny is my source. she did not always give source of her information.
Father of James was Alexander McElroy b. NYS who had a brother James McE.
Jan 29, 1993 Letter from Elizabeth S. Smith to thor N Trolsen as transcribed by Thor Trolsen for Judy Riley
I am sending you a copy of material on James McElroy, brother of Alexander, which came from Myrtle S. Edwards, a 3rd cousin of mine on the Smith side. I added notes- do not know their source- possibly Elizabeth Horton. I have to get Myrtle interested in working on McElroys, but she has several other concerns at present, which take priority and which I understand.
Also I added two more children for James. Alexander and William, but I have no proof that they are children of James. William I found right along in Monroe. Alexander only briefly.
I have suspected that possibly some descendant of James had been in contact with Elizabeth Horton. Her papers were given to OCGS research room. They are being sorted and filed. So far nothing has turned up on McElroy.
Another copy of material on James- one or two- was in Helen Ror Predmore file. You can see by my note I questioned it. She has your James- a son of James. If the date you have for James is correct and you can prove it, I think it rules out that possibility. Mrs Predmore did give a surname for Patience, which neither you nor I had. That may be something for you to pursue. If she was indeed a Strong - that could give you a Revolutionary War ancestor. On page 3, I copied information from DAR Patriot Index on James and also the Abstract of Rev War Pension Application for him.
If you have trouble understanding my notes, let me know and I will try to explain them more clearly. If you succeed in tracing the McElroy family I will be happy to have the information. I think you have to go further afield than Orange County to do so. Information does turn up in enexpected places.
From Myrtle Edwards- The Gleaner, Independent Republican 12 Apr 1951
James McElroy- Rev soldier(Brother of Alexander, (see p 3) son of maybe Archibald. 1st wife Martha Burks or 2nd wife Sarah (Burk) McElroy. 1764 Livingston Manor, Columbia county now Sullivan Co. NY.
Alexander1: b ca 1835 , m 21 Mar 1850, Sararh Titus2, daughter of Isaac and Elizabeth Cook Titus3
William: b ca 15 Feb 1817, d 4 Mar 1888, m by Justice of Peace in Patterson NJ, Jane Starr. He was 18, she was 17. she died 7 Aug 1893, age 77 years. She was born 12 Jan 1816.(Predmore file OCGS) (no cemetery stone. No proof of parentage of this william per Elizabeth S. Smith)
Superscript 1- Age computed from 1855 Census
Superscript2- History of first Presbyterian Church of Monroe NY 1783-1956, p. 191
Superscript3- Portrait and Biographical Record- Chapman, 1895 pg 955.
(Lil's addition: quote from Portrait & Biographical Records of Orange County NY "Elizabeth Cocks was a daughter of Jacob and Hannah(Townsend) Cocks, the lattter of whom was born on Long Island, and was a daughter of Nicolas and Philadelphia (Robbins) Townsend, both of whom were natives of Long Island. Jacob Cocks, a son of Henry Cocks, was also a native of Long Island. To the parents of Mrs Shuit, Isaac B and Elizabeth Titus, were born seven daughters. Sallie D., now deceased was twice married, first to Alexander McElroy, and then to Noah Brooks; Mary ann was the first wife of Mogan Shuit; Hannah C. deceased, married Robert L Gough of Westport NY; Martha died young; Susan C is also deceased; Phoebe B married Morgan Shuit after the death of her sister; and elizabeth is also deceased")
NB Sometimes people have confused the wives of the two younger Alexander McElroys. All three married Sarahs. This Alexander I cannot fit in as Grandson of Alexander. Elizabth S. Smith
Predmore file at OCGS Research Room:
James Mc Elroy Jr. m. Patience Comfort Strong.
7 Sarah - sarah Mc Elroy married Courter
8. Charlotte - Charlotte Mc Elroy m. McMunn
9 Lydia - Lydia McElroy m. Dolse
10 Anne - Ann McElroy m. Thurston
11. Matilda - Mathilda McElroy moved west
12 Martha - Martha McElroy m. John Frederick Illenberg on June 6 1857
James Mc Elroy Jr. was a son of (James Mc Elroy of Warwick- 1800-1810. April 22, 1820 he bought 80 acres of land in Knox County OH. At that time he was 56 years old)
In 1820 James MCElroy Jr sold land in Warwick and bought land in Hamptonburgh, NY
"EIT Bullville- grandaughter of Martha" "Ancestor Exchange"
Note by ES Smith: See Alexander McElroy- son of James. Would seem that this son of Alexander or this Alexander a mixture of 2 James McElroys. I find Mrs. Predmore has made wrong assumptions from time to time.
Lil's NOTE: Found on 1850 Census for Hamptonburgh living near to on page 154b line 18 James, John, Cornelius, is a Gilbert McElroy age 30 (1820). wife Phebe S age 28 (1822), anne E age 8 (1842), Margaret H age 6(1844) Mary J age 3(1847) I think they probably belong in this family. He fits timewise. These are obviously thesame as the following received from from Glenn Marshall, New windsor Town Historian:
McELROY,CORY A 7/18/1867 1 DAU. OF G.D. & P.J. McELROY HAMPTONBURGH
McELROY G.D. 2/3/1891 12/27/1818 WASHINGTONVILLE
EARLE,PHEBE J 5/12/1898 8/17/1820 WIFE OF G.D. McELROY WASHINGTONVILLE