Payne de Roet1b. circa 1315, d. 1360, #27389
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| Father | Payne de Roet of Guignies1 b. circa 1274, d. after 1322 | |
| Mother | Name not known1 |
| Name Variation | Payne de Roet was also found as Sir Payn de Roet.2 | |
| Birth* | circa 1315 | Payne de was born circa 1315 at Ghent, Hainault, Belgium.1 |
| !AInfoNew | The ancestry of Payne is somewhat a mystery. He was a knight in Queen Philippa's (Edward III's wife) Household. The following is a post to SGM, 4 Jan 2004, by Peter de Loriol: From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Subject: DE ROE(L)T... Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2004-01-04 09:57:45 PST Someone asked about the ancestry of sir Paon/Pagan/Payen de Ruet/Roet/Roelt. A recent article in the Foundations Magazine of the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy suggests that this unknown Knight was a member of the ROEULX family of the Hainaut where the name is also spelt as Ruet/Roet/ Ruelt - it points to a certain Gilles de Roeulx as the Pagan of English history...there is however no definite proof of his identity but the circumstantial proof seems quite compelling according to the reviewer. regards Peter de Loriol Jim Weber then adds this: Note: I already have Payne as son of another Payne Roet, based on various people on the internet. I find a Gilles-Rigaud de Roeulx on Leo van de Pas' data files based on information in ES. Since the senior male line of Gille's elder brother Eustace appears to die out with Eustace in 1288 (Eustace had a son Eustace who died before him about Dec 1287, and a daughter Marie who was his heir), I think the Roet descent indicated in the SGM post above is probably through Gilles-Rigaud. Therefore I am making Payne Roet, senior, a son of that Gilles-Rigaud (at least it is pretty close to the ancestry indicated above).1 | |
| Marriage* | circa 1345 | Payne de Roet married Catherine d' Hainault, daughter of Guillaume III De Avesnes of Hainault and Jeanne de Valois, circa 1345. Having checked several printed sources and the general internet for information on the mother of Philippa and Catherine de Roet and/or the wife of Payne de Roet, I have found nothing on her identity. The only sources for Catherine of Hainault being that person are several World Connect data bases-and they do not indicate a source. That does not mean that they are wrong. One point in favor of a connection between the Roet's Catherine of Hainault (sister of Edward III's consort Queen Philippa) is that the Payne, Philippa, and Catherine Roet were at one time or another in Queen Philippa's household.1 |
| !AInfoNew* | Payn de Roet came from Hainault, a wealthy little Netherlands country. He had married a French girl from Picardy. They had two little girls before she died in childbirth. Payn left his two little daughter with their grandparents in Picardy and followed Queen Phillippa to England. He was a dashing and handsome young man, who was inclined to dress above his station and earned the nickname of Paon, the peacock. He was appointed "royal Herald"- King of Arms to represent the province of Guienne by King Edward and was knighted on the field of battle in France just before the peace in 1360.3 | |
| Death* | 1360 | Payne de Roet was killed in battle in 1360 at near Paris, France.3 |
| Death | circa 1380 | Payne de may have died circa 1380 at Ghent, at Hainault, at Belgium. This date is given by Weber citing Weiss and Peter de Loriol, 4 Jan 2004.1 |
| Family 1 | ||
| Child | 1. | Philippa de Roet+ b. 1348, d. 13873 |
| Family 2 | Catherine d' Hainault b. circa 1320, d. after 1375 | |
| Child | 1. | Katherine de Roet+ b. Oct 1350, d. 10 May 14032 |
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