Hibernia Family History Emails for December 2007

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from Julie Jones
to liverpoolhibernian
date 22 Nov 2007 17:42
subject Marriage Our Lady of Reconciliation, Eldon Street, L3

Hi Pat,

I am researching my family history and have just found your site.

My great grandparents married in the above church 21/10/1886. I have received the certificate today from the GRO, but wondered if you could give me any background. I am only found out recently that there may be Irish connections and would like to find any information.

My great grandparents were :

Elizabeth Ellen Ashton and James Joseph Smith

Many thanks

Julie Jones

Answer sent Sunday 2nd December 2007

Hi Julie,

Here are details from the Liverpool RC marriage Index:

ASHTON, ELISABETH HELENAM & JACOBUM JOSEPHUM SMITH, 21 OCT 1886, Our Lady of Reconciliation RC church, Liverpool

The church marriage registers is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details of one marriage for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

For information on Our Lady's, see:

http://www.scottiepress.org.uk/main.htm

&

http://www.scottiepress.org/gallery/ourladys.htm

No donation required.

Regards,

Pat

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from Rob & Barb Don
to liverpoolhibernian
date 25 Nov 2007 06:20
subject Cemetery Search

Hi Pat

Could you please check your RC Cemeteries index for the burial of my gr.gr.grandmother, Catherine GAVEN.

Name:- Catherine GAVEN [sometimes spelt Gavan]
Cemetery:- Unknown
Date of Death:- 13th. February, 1867.
Age at Death:- 48 years [as on Death Certificate].
Address:- 1 Horwich Street, West Derby [at time of death].
Spouse:- John GAVEN.
Children:- Catherine, Mary Ann, Joseph, Teresa, Elizabeth, Peter, Susan, Samuel, and Philomena.

Thank you, with best wishes,
Barbara Don [Australia].

Answer sent Sunday 2nd December 2007

Hi Barbara,

I found the following in the Liverpool RC Burial Board Plot Records for 1867, but it doesn't seem to be the correct interment:

Ford Cemetery
Section: DZ
Public (Pauper) plot: 623

Catherine GAVIN
Grosvenor Street, 6 Court, Liverpool L3
Age: 43 years
Interred: 29/3/1867

There will be no marker on a Public (Pauper) Graves.

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

No donation required.

Regards,

Pat

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from jim nolan
to liverpoolhibernian
date 26 Nov 2007 14:10
subject Burial Lookup

Dear Pat,

I am looking for a burial in Ford for the following:

Michael Nolan
Death 1889
He would have been about 41 years old, born Kildare, Ireland.
Wife's name Ellen,
Son, James
Last known address 53 Brasenose Rd.

Regards,
Jim Nolan

Answer sent Sunday 2nd December 2007

Hi Jim,

I found the following in the Liverpool RC Burial Board Plot Records:

Ford Cemetery
Section: SV
Public (Pauper) plot: 2605

Michael Nolan
Liverpool Workhouse, Liverpool L3
Age: 41 years
Interred: 7/2/1889

There will be no marker on a Public (Pauper) Graves.

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

The Workhouse registers are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they may check for the details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Regards,

Pat

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from Sean Cowan
to liverpoolhibernian
date 27 Nov 2007 06:17

Hi, I am searching for the burial site of my g-g grandfather. I found your wonderful website and wondered if you might be able to find him in your burial records. Unfortunately, I don’t know where he was buried, only that he died in Liverpool on 22/12/1894. The details are below.

The full name (John Maltman – sometimes referred to as John Hill Maltman).
Cemetery, if known (Unknown)
Approximate date of death/burial (Died on 22 December, 1894).
Approximate age or date of birth (Born 22 October, 1853).
If you have an address, that might also be of help (Last address I have from 1891 census was 32 Brae St, West Derby, Liverpool).
If you have the name of a spouse, parents or children, (Spouse: Jane Gordon Hannah. Children: Agnes, Helen, Henrietta and Janet)

Thanks and kind regards.

Sean Cowan

Australia

Hi Jim,

I found the following in the Liverpool RC Burial Board Plot Records:

Ford Cemetery
Section: SV
Public (Pauper) plot: 2605

Michael Nolan
Liverpool Workhouse, Liverpool L3
Age: 41 years
Interred: 7/2/1889

There will be no marker on a Public (Pauper) Graves.

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

The Workhouse registers are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they may check for the details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Regards,

Pat

Hi Sean,

I checked the Liverpool RC Burial Board Plot Records, but did not find one MALTMAM.

No donation required.

Regards,

Pat

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from Jane Murdock)
to Patrick <liverpoolhibernian
date 27 Nov 2007 10:56
subject Liverpool burial

Hello Pat

I am trying to find the burial place of a little girl :-
Margaret Gibbons
Aged 3
Who died on 3 December 1870
At 40 Grosvenor Street Liverpool.

She was the daughter of Michael and Mary Gibbons. Unfortunately I don't have the cemetery.

Hope you may be able to help. Thank you.

Jane

Answer sent Sunday 2nd December 2007

Hi Jane,

I found the following in the Liverpool RC Burial Board Plot Records:

Ford Cemetery
Section: SJ
Public (Pauper) plot: 135

Margaret Gibbon
40 Grosvenor Street, Liverpool L3
Age: 3 years
Interred: 4/12/1870

There will be no marker as it is a Public (Pauper) Graves.

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Regards,

Pat

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from pam
to liverpoolhibernian
date 29 Nov 2007 00:49
subject burial record at St Anthony's

Hello
l have just been looking at the burial records for St Anthony's 1847 on your site
Listed is Ann Logan, Arley, aged 53
l believe this my 3xa great grandmother wife of Daniel Logan of Arley St. Liverpool
Please could l have the date of death l will gladly make a donation
Thanking you
Pam Powney (Mrs)

Answer sent Sunday 2nd December 2007

Hi Pam,

The records for St Anthony's burials are on a CD ROM: disk001

Here are the ways you can receive a copy;

1. I can post the CD ROM (you would need to send me £2.00 to cover the cost of P&P in the UK).

2. I can send it as a 4 MB file attachment via an email (77 files).

3. You can download the files from my BT Digital Vault.

What method would you prefer?

Regards,

Pat

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from Mildred
to liverpoolhibernian
date 29 Nov 2007 17:46
subject McGivern family history

Hi Patrick

I am researching a friend's mother's family history. Her grandparents were a Thomas McGivern and Ann Culbertson or as I have found on your site; Thomam Mcgivern married an Anna Culverston at St Peters Seel Street RC church. But there is no date consequently I cannot obtain a marriage certificate. Please can you help. All we know about them is that they where married in Liverpool, Thomas died abt 1894 and Ann had moved to Halifax by 1901 with part of her family. I have been unable to trace their marriage but on your site I found

My friend Brian Tracy goes to the RC church in Wetherby and they have a famine relief fund to which he will donate.

In anticipation of your help, thank you.

Mrs M Humble

Answer sent Sunday 2nd December 2007

Hi Mrs Humble,

Here are details from the Liverpool RC marriage Index:

McGIVERN, THOMAM & ANNA CULVERSTON, 30 JAN 1875, St Peter's RC church, Seel Street.

The church marriage registers is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details of one marriage for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Regards,

Pat

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from Christine davies
to liverpoolhibernian
date 1 Dec 2007 18:02
subject St Pat's marriage records

Hello - I would be grateful if you could forward any info regarding the marriage of
Arthur Quinn to Sarah Joannah Edwards in St Patrick's circa 1870, my great grandparents
thank you - donation being made to CAFOD.

Christine Davies

Answer sent Sunday 2nd December 2007

Hi Christina,

Here are details from the Liverpool RC marriage Index:

QUINN, ARTHUR & SARAM JOANNAM EDWARDS, 5 JUN 1892, St Patrick's RC church

The church marriage registers is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details of one marriage for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

Thank you for any donation you make to CAFOD.

Regards,

Pat

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Two hours spent answering nine family history emails on Sunday 2nd December 2007.

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from pam <pam.m.powney
to Patrick Neill <liverpoolhibernian
date 2 Dec 2007 21:51
subject l managed to do it

Hi Pat
Just to let you know l have managed to download and save the disk001.
l am convinced that the Ann Logan, age 53, Arley, who died 1/7/1847 is my 3 X Gt. Grandmother.
Does the Arley mean Arley Street? lf so it's definitely her as there was no other Ann Logan only her sister in law and daughter living there at that time.
l will be sending for her death cert. now l have the details.
Thanks again Pat l really appreciate it.
Kind regards,
Pam

Answer sent Sunday 9th December 2007

Hi Pam,

I'm glad the information was of use to you. Yes, ARLEY means Arley Street. In the register, they do not write Street or Road, I suspect this was done to save time.

The Burial registers is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details of one marriage for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

Thank you for any donation you make.

Regards,

Pat

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from Rob & Barb Don
to liverpoolhibernian
date 3 Dec 2007 07:12
subject Cemetery Search

Hi Pat

Thanks for checking for the burial of my gr.gr.grandmother Catherine Gaven - sorry you couldn't find her, I wonder where she went.

Could you check your RC Cemeteries index for the burial of my gr.gr.grandfather, maybe we might have more luck with him.

Name:- John GAVEN [sometimes spelt Gavan]
Cemetery:- Unknown
Date of Death:- 20th January, 1872.
Age at Death:- 67 years [as on Death Certificate].
Address:- 47 Fletcher Street, Toxteth Park [at time of death]
Spouse:- Catherine GAVEN
Children:- Catherine, Mary Ann, Joseph, Teresa, Elizabeth, Peter, Susan, Samuel, and Philomena.

Thank you again,
Best wishes
Barbara Don.

Answer sent Sunday 9th December 2007

Hi Barbara,

I did not find a John GAVAN/GAVEN/GAVIN in the Liverpool RC Burial Index for January 1872.

No donation required.

Regards,

Pat

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One hour spent answering four family history emails on Sunday 9th December 2007.

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from John Windle
to liverpoolhibernian
date 10 Dec 2007 17:19
subject Cemetery Search

Hi,
Would you please help with my search for burial plot for,

WILLIAM VOUCH
Age at death = 68
District = West Derby
Sept Qtr 1929
volume 8b
page 469.

Regards
John

Answer sent Sunday 16th December 2007

Hi John,

Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Board Plot Records:

Ford Cemetery
Section: SV
Public (Pauper) plot: 958

WILLIAM VOUCH
147A Mill Road, Liverpool L6 (hospital)
Age: 68 years
Interred: 24/7/1929

There will be no marker on a Public (Pauper) Graves.

Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Regards,

Pat

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from Sue & Gordon Shepherd
to liverpoolhibernian
date 11 Dec 2007 10:43
subject disk001

Dear Pat

I would be most grateful (and will make an appropriate charity donation) if you could supply me with your disk001. I think the best way is as an email attachment, but if my supplier won't pass a 4MB file, I may be back for information on downloading directly from your vault.

Many thanks

Gordon Shepherd

Answer sent Sunday 16th December 2007

Hi Gordon,

Attached are the 78 files. Here are the instructions:

1. Create a folder (name disk002)

2. Download all 78 files into the folder (disk002)

3. Once you have downloaded all the files, open the folder and double click the file 'index', you should be able to navigate the information using your browser.

4. You can burn the 78 files onto a CD ROM if required; it should auto run when put into a CD ROM drive (windows only).

5. Please pass on the CD ROM to other interested people. But ask them to contact me, so I can advise them of any updates/additions.


Thank you for your donation.

Enjoy!

Pat

 

Hi Gordon,

I tried to send the files via email, but it bounced back so here in the instructions to download the files from my BT Digital vault:

You can download the disk from the link below.

1. Create a folder (name disk002)
2. Download all 78 files into the folder (disk002)
3. Once you have downloaded all the files, open the folder and double click the file 'index', you should be able to navigate the information using your browser.
4. You can burn the 78 files onto a CD ROM if required; it should auto run when put into a CD ROM drive (windows only).
5. Please pass on the CD ROM to other interested people. But ask them to contact me, so I can advise them of any updates/additions.

Enjoy!
Pat Neill

PS Let me know how you get on!

disk002
http://digitalvault.bt.com

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from AnneWalker
to liverpoolhibernian
date 12 Dec 2007 18:17
subject help with Catholic burial records

I saw your kind offer of help to researchers and have been trying to
find out more about:

Peter McArdle
Born abt. 1841 Armagh

Died after 1901 Liverpool

Who was married to Jane (Matthews/Farrell)

They lived in Highfield St. and think they baptised their children Ann
and Peter b. 1872 in Highfield church but married in 1876 in St
Nicholas pro so am not sure where they would be buried. I see that
all catholic burials were in one of 3 places after a certain date -
can you help, I would be so appreciative.

Many many thanks for reading this.

Annie

Norwich, Norfolk

Answer sent Sunday 16th December 2007

Hi Annie,

I found the following at Ford Cemetery from the Liverpool RC Burial Board Plot Records:

AD 390, Walton Workhouse, age 60, 6/3/1912

2A 303, Royal Children's Hospital, age 2 months, 26/7/1921

X 770, Knotty Ash Infirmary, age 73 years, 103//1906

AS 515, 68 Keate Street, Liverpool L2, age 4 years, 14/8/1922

But none match the details you gave, for me to check further, I would need the year he died.

No donation required.

Regards,

Pat

 

Thank you so much for replying

Since i wrote to you i found Peter McArdle's death details-

12 March 1902 11 Westmoreland St, Liverpool, Lancs (Vauxhall ward region)

I also got his his grandson Thomas McArdle's death details (same area around Highfield St/ Standish St)

6b Adlington St, Liverpool, Lancs 1st September 1927

Description: Marine Fireman (steamship) - died of pulmonary tb, widow R A McArdle present

Many many thanks for looking

Annie

Answer sent Sunday 16th December 2007

Hi Annie,

I did not find the grave of Peter McArdle, but I did find Thomas McArdle in the Liverpool RC Burial Index:

Ford Cemetery
Section: SV
Public (Pauper) plot: 539

Thomas McArdle
6b Adlington Street, Liverpool L6 (hospital)
Age: 33 years
Interred: 6/9/1927

There will be no marker on a Public (Pauper) Graves.

Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Regards,

Pat

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from Kevin Lehane
to Patrick Neill <liverpoolhibernian
date 14 Dec 2007 06:48
subject Family tree research for John Short & Mary Elizabeth Campbell

Hello Patrick
I came across you name on the internet & I would be most grateful if you could assist me in my family tree research into my great-grandparents, John Luxford Short & his wife, Mary Elizabeth Campbell.

From the website I visited, it appears that they married in "St Patrick's Church, Park Place L8."
Various dates are given in the website I visited, but from John's subsequent death certificate I believe that he would have been married sometime in 1871. (He died in Melbourne, Australia in 1932 at age 81 (& so was born in 1851). His death certificate states that he was married at age 20. This information points to his marriage being in 1871 & so within the period 2 Jan 1865 - 29 Nov 1913 as shown in the website I visited.
In the circumstances, I await whatever information you may be able to supply me with concerning great-grandparents whom I never met.
(Another snippet of information about John Short as given in his death certificate is that he was born in County Down, Ireland. )

Thanking you in anticipation that you may be able to assist me. Also, I'd like to extend to you "A Merry Christmas & Happy new Year for 2008!"

Kevin Lehane
Western Australia 6064

PS
I am nearly 74. I'm in a wheelchair as a result of contracting polio when I was 17. I am very interested in genealogy & I spend a lot of my time on the internet, which has been of great assistance to me in my family tree research.

Answer sent Sunday 16th December 2007

Hi Kevin,

Here are the details form the Liverpool RC Marriage index:

SHORT, JOANNEM LUXFORD & ANNAM PINFIELD, 20 JUN 1860, St Peter's Seel Street

SHORT, JOHN LUXFORD & MARY ELIZABETH CAMPBELL, 12 APR 1864, St Patrick's RC church

Maybe he married twice and his first wife died! Maybe it's the wrong man!

The church marriage registers is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details of one marriage for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the churches, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Regards,

Pat

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From: jwisner
To: patrick_neill_fh
Subject: St. James, Bootle RC Church Liverpool
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:57:49 -0500

Dear Pat:

I just found the church where my great great grandparents were
married. It was St. James Bootle. I would like to obtain a copy of
the marriage license and possibly the witnesses, however does the
parish still exist? Would I contact the Archdiocese? Thank you and
Thank you also for the picture of the Church.

Jacqueline Wisner

Answer sent Sunday 16th December 2007

Hi Jacqueline,

As you don't give the names of your Great Great Grandparents, so I'm not able to give you the date they were married. But the records for St James Bootle are held at Crosby Library, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records/seflib.htm

If you contact them they may give you the full details for FREE.

Glad you like the pictures of the church which were taken by my son.

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Regards,

Pat

 

Dear Pat:

Thank you for your reply. My great great grandparents were Katie (Catherine) Martin and Patrick Cassidy. According to your records, they were married at St. James RC Church in Bootle. They were married in 1881 but I do not have the date. Do you also have information about witnesses to the marriage? Since I am not certain of their siblings, I was hoping that maybe a brother or sister stood up for them for their marriage.

You website is wonderful, since I am finally able to track down my Irish ancestors. I have recently gotten involved with the Hudson County Genealogical Society here in the state of my birth, New Jersey. We just started a project to upload a searchable database of obituaries for Hudson County. Hudson County is located directly west of New York City and Ellis Island and the county was second to New York in accepting many immigrants. The database is not up yet but maybe someday it could help you too. The address is www.hudsoncountynjgenealogy.org

Thank you again.

Jacqueline Wisner

Answer sent Sunday 16th December 2007

Hi Jacqueline,

Thank you for your email, glad you like the website.

The marriages on the Lancashire BMD website (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/) I suspect that's were you got the year of the marriage:

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/pma.cgi?date=1881&county=lancashire&reference=LL%3aREG%5fWD%2f94%2f79&file=M&pos=49391&area=LL

Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Marriage Index:

MARTIN, CATHARINAM & PATRICIUM CASSIDY, 29 JUN 1881, St James' RC church in Bootle

The records are held at Crosby Library, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records/seflib.htm

If you contact them they may give you the full details for FREE.

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Or by check/cheque, see:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_cheque

Keep up the good work with the Hudson County Genealogical Society.

Regards,

Pat

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Two hours spent answering ten family history emails on Sunday 16th December 2007. Total of 5 hours spent answering 23 family history emails in December 2007.

 

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