Hibernia Family History Emails for November 2006
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From: Paul Martin
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 02-Nov-2006 01:21
Subject: Liverpool Marriage Index
Hi Pat
I was reviewing your site. Thank you for all your hard work.
I am interested in obtaining information on the marriage of:
Crane, Joannem and Elizabeth McCormick - reference PAT (St Patrick's).
Hope you can help.
Kind regards
PaulAnswer sent Sunday 12th November 2006
Paul,
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
CRANE, JOANNEM & ELIZABETH McCORMICK, 22 MAY 1895, St Patrick's RC church
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: Peter Crosbie
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 03-Nov-2006 12:28
Subject: Grave locations
I wonder if you can help me.
I am trying to find the burial places of some of my ancestors.
All lived and died in Liverpool and were presumably buried there:Marion Crosbie died 25th March 1911 aged 67 in Liverpool Royal Infirmary
Henrietta Crosbie died 2nd August 1916 aged 51 at 47 Bedford Road, Walton, Liverpool
James Crosbie died 7th January 1923 aged 60 at 107 Rice Lane, Walton, Liverpool
John Crosbie died 14th June 1926 aged 86 at 107 Rice Lane, Walton, Liverpool
Many thanks
Peter CrosbieAnswer sent Sunday 12th November 2006
Peter,
I did not find the burials in the RC Burial Index.
You could try; Bob Halliday <halliday
>, he does a search service for Anfield Cemetery.Regards,
Patrick
From: John Rowley
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 03-Nov-2006 22:12
Subject: Lookup at Ainsdale RC Cemetery
Hi Pat
Saw your website re lookups. I have a specific lookup
which is a piece of a puzzle in the family jigsaw.
The name is Charles Walsmley died Jan 30th 1951 and
was interred at Ainsdale Cemetery. Would like to know
the plot and section number and the plot records/owner
please.
Many thanks in advance and will donate to cafod.
John Rowley
Answer sent Sunday 12th November 2006John,
Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Records:
Ainsdale Cemetery
Section: M
Private Plot: 240
Plot Owner: Florence WalmsleyCharles Walmsley
589 Ormskirk Road
Age: 63 years
Interment: 2/2/1951Thank you for any donation you make to CAFOD.
Regards,
Patrick
PS. If you can't get to the grave, I could ask my son (Jonathan) if he could check for a headstone for you. He charges £2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found. Or £4.00 to post an A4 picture of a headstone. No charge if no headstone found.
From: Colbeck6
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 05-Nov-2006 11:28
Subject: Death Record
Hello Patrick,
Would you be able to look up burial record for William Roach. Age 48
GRO Record is Sept Q 1903. 8b Page 113.
If it is my William he was living in Everton District ?? Stitt Street.
His wife was Ellen Roach. There is possibility that he may not have been a Catholic, his sons were buried in Ford Cemetery I believe they were brought up Catholics.
Thank you.
Teresa ColbeckAnswer sent Sunday 12th November 2006
Teresa,
Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Records:
Ford Cemetery
Section: X
Public Plot: 142William Roach
Coroners order
Age: 48 years
Interment: 17/9/1903There will be no marker as it is a Public (Pauper) Grave. But if you speak to the grave diggers at the cemetery, they may be able to guide you to the plot, they are normally there Monday to Friday.
Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htmIf the information is of use, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: sandyusher
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 05-Nov-2006 19:42
Subject: Marriage of James Ushar & Rose Ann Callagan
Hi there
I'm researching my Irish ancestry and came across the marriage of James Ushar & Rose Ann Callahan at St. Anthony's RC Church in Scotland St.. I'm wondering if this could possibly be James USHER (from Drogheda) born in 1835 and Rose Ann COLLIGAN (from Glasgow) born in 1839. Their first daughter, Margaret Usher was born in 1865. Can you help?
Can you also tell me which district of Liverpool both St. Anthony's and Our Lady of Reconciliation are? Are they in Kirkdale?
Regards
Sandy UsherAnswer sent Sunday 12th November 2006
Sandy,
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
USHAR, JAMES & ROSE ANN CALLAGAN, 12 FEB 1863, St Anthony's RC church
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
Both St Anthony's and Our Lady of Reconciliation are in the Vauxhall district of Liverpool L5, which is close to Kirkdale.
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: Philip Mcloughlin
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 06-Nov-2006 10:17
Subject: Re: Search Family Tree
Patrick,
Many Thanks for your information, this is great news! I did contact Yewtree
Cemetery, they did inform me that Mary Sheehan Nee Murray, was buried in a
public grave. They gave also given me the plot for her sons Alfred and Joe
Sheehan. I went there last Saturday but couldn't find them and as there was
no one there to ask I was stuck!! Thanks for the map of the cemetery, this
will be a great help as I'm going back there this Saturday.
I am now looking for Peter Murray, Mary Sheehan's father. He was born in
1846 in Ireland and is on the 1891 Census, for West Derby, Lancs. I don't
know if he's buried at Yew Tree but I need to find this out.
Would you happen to know how I can find out when they came to Liverpool ? I
am trying to locate the date they came and information as to where in
Ireland they came from.
Thanks for the link for the donation, donation on its way.........
Many Thanks for your time and effort. Much Much appreciated.
Phil McloughlinAnswer sent Sunday 12th November 2006
Phil,
Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Records:
Ford Cemetery
Section: BZ
Public Plot: 335Peter Murray
1 Thistlewood Strteet
Age: 46 years
Interment: 29/5/1891There will be no marker as it is a Public (Pauper) Grave. But if you speak to the grave diggers at the cemetery, they may be able to guide you to the plot, they are normally there Monday to Friday.
Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htmMany thanks for donating to CAFOD
Regards,
Patrick
From: Sheila
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 07-Nov-2006 12:50
Subject: Marriage 1887
Hi Patrick, would you have any info. on the marriage of Ellen Jeffers to James Faulkner in St James Bootle in 1887 pleaseAnswer sent Sunday 12th November 2006
Sheila,
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
JEFFERS, HELENAM & JACOBUM FAULKNER, 15 JAN 1887, St James RC church Bootle
The church marriage register is held at Crosby Library:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/seflib.htmIf you contact the them, they may give you the full details for FREE.
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
Two hours spent answering eight family history emails on Sunday 12th November 2006
From: Qjeanquigley
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 07-Nov-2006 14:49
Subject: Usher & colligan
Looking for detail of the marriage of James Usher & Roseanne Colligan the information we have is St. Anthony's, Liverpool 1864 James was born in Ireland.
JeanAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Jean,
I did not find the marriage in the Liverpool RC Marriage Index.
The church marriage register for St Anthony's is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may do a search for you for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspRegards,
Patrick
From: James Maxwell
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 07-Nov-2006 18:29
Subject: Jim Maxwell
Dear Patrick,
Can I call on you again for some help about my uncle who died as a child of less than 12 months old? I have scant information but will do the best I can. His name was,
Thomas Joseph Maxwell, aged about 5 months, he died about 20/4/1860, and is said to have been buried in the old burial place at Saint Oswald's. Liverpool, I am led to believe that there might have been two grave yards for Saint Oswald's over those early years.
There is another relative who died approximately six months earlier in October 1859 and is also buried in Saint Oswald's he is
Patrick Maxwell, aged about 40 years old and died of the fever in 1859.
Could you please tell me if they are buried in the same grave or two separate graves? Also could you tell me the names of the other occupants of the grave or graves.
I would be most grateful if you could help me out and as always I will be only to willing to make a good donation to CAFOD to help with there excellent work.
Best regards,
Jim Maxwell.
Answer sent Sunday 19th November 2006Jim,
Some of the records may still be with the church, some are held at the Liverpool Record Office:
Register of Burials 1842 - 1856
Funeral Registers 1856 - 1959
Indexes;
Index of burials at St Oswald's Church, Old Swan, 1881 -1907, Comp. V.A. Oldham, Typescript (HQ 929.5 OSW)
Inscriptions, Gardner, Vol.3 pp 137 - 146
Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may do a search for you for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Death Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:No donation required.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Kathleen Shirley
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 08-Nov-2006 03:34
Subject: Re: John Hughes
Hello Patrick
Would you please look up:John Hughes, age 79, death 1905 Dec quarter Liverpool 8B 105
John Hughes, age 70 ,death 1910 Sept quarter Liverpool 8B 23
Thank you
Kay ShirleyAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Kay,
I only found the following:
Ford Cemetery
Section: AD
Public Plot: 64John Hughes
22A Boundary Street
Age: 70 years
Interment: 1/10/1910There will be no marker as it is a Public (Pauper) Grave. But if you speak to the grave diggers at the cemetery, they may be able to guide you to the plot, they are normally there Monday to Friday.
Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htmIf the information is of use, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: kevin humphreys
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 08-Nov-2006 14:37
Subject: Re: Marriage Index
Hi Pat
I am currently putting together the Humphreys family tree and noticed you have two of my relatives on your marriage index: - Church Ref: PAT Petrum Humphreys and Josephinam Quinn, I wondered if you could possibly let me know the date of their marriage so that I can look it up.
Thank you so much
RegardsKevin
Answer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Kevin,
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
HUMPHREYS, PETRUM & JOSEPHINAM QUINN, 25 FEB 1895, St Patrick's RC church
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: JOHN THOMPSON
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 09-Nov-2006 22:51
Subject: St Alban. Church Bevington Liverpool
Hello Pat.
I am looking for information about St Alban Church in the parish of Bevington Liverpool.
My G/Great grand parents married there 1864,could please help or advise me.
Thank you. JohnAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
John,
St Alban Church in the parish of Bevington Liverpool is a Church of England church.
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspNo donation required.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Colbeck6
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 12-Nov-2006 10:38
Subject: Re: Death Record
Many thanks Pat, it looks as though this is my ancestor, ( great grandfather )
Especially because of information ( coroners orders ) I was told by my grandmother he choked to death?? Where would I find information ?
I intend making donation.
TeresaAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Teresa,
The Liverpool Record Office (LVRO) hold some information on Coroners Inquests:
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may do a look-up for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
Also, you should check the local Newspapers, they normally have information about unusual deaths and Coroners Inquests.
Regards,
Patrick
From: J Wolfarth
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 12-Nov-2006 15:34
Subject: ancestors
I have been told that you might be able to help me. My great great grand
parents were married at Our Lady of Reconciliation R,C, church in Eldon
Street sometime in the 1850s. Their names were James Farley and Catherine
Ferns. I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me. Many thanks.
Josie Wolfarth.Answer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Josie,
I found this marriage:
FERNS, CATHERINAM & THOMAS FARLEY, 05 MAR 1857, Our lady of Reconciliation RC church
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: JMcseat
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 12-Nov-2006 19:27
Subject: Ford Burial
Hi Pat.
Could you please see if You have a Burial for
John Vance. Died 3/ 7 1918 . He died in the first world war. Buried at Ford Cemetery.
I got this information from CWGC. I Would like to know if he is buried in a private grave, and if so is his daughter Winifred Vance buried with him. She died in 1913.
Thanks JennyAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Jenny,
I did not find a Winifred Vance, here are the details for John Vance:
Ford Cemetery
Section: I
Private Plot: 231
Plot Owner: Mary Ellen Gardiner - No int. 07 07 1918 Purchased 20 07 1915Josephine Gladys Gardiner
113 Portland Street
Age: 1 month
Interment: 25/4/1917John Vance
Royal Victoria Hospital, Hounds South Stoneham
Age: 41 years
Interment: 9/7/1918
Augustine Gardiner
113 Portland Street
Age: 17 months
Interment: 28/3/1922John Gardiner
147 Mill Road, Liverpool L6 (hospital)
Age: 49 years
Interment: 9/11/1923Francis Dring
Northern Hospital, Liverpool L3
Age: 2 years
Interment: 27/4/1927Alice Gardiner
107 Rice Lane, Liverpool L9 (hospital)
Age: 79 years
Interment: 13/10/1932Augustine Murray
21B Woodstock Gardens, Liverpool L5
Age: 72 years
Interment: 6/9/1956Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htmIf you can't get to the grave, I could ask my son (Jonathan) if he could check for a
headstone for you. He charges £2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found.
Or £4.00 to post an A4 picture of a headstone.
No charge if no headstone found.
For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htmIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/
Or by cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: Pauline Neill
To: Patrick Neill <liverpoolhibernian
Date: 12-Nov-2006 21:13
Dear Patrick,
I am very grateful to you for the information sent to me which is totally new and most helpful with the dates etc. I have e-mailed it all to my cousin (who I found on the internet last year) her father is Edward who is in the grave - and she has not been there for 55 years - except for last year when she could not find it, or remember where it was, so like myself she is very pleased, but she says she feels sure her mother told her, before she died that there wasn't a headstone. However, I ask if Jonathan should go the the cemetery at some time for some other purpose (and to save him a wasted journey) could he kindly look to confirm this - but IF there is a headstone which is readable take that photograph for me and I will of course pay him for doing so, if readable I would like the A4 one please.
I wonder if you have other sites that may be helpful to me ? - I am thinking of William T. Walmsley Born 1871 - ( the son of George D. 9/4/37) my gt.gt. Uncle, educated at St Edwards College, Upholland, Liverpool - he became a RC Priest (I have the details of all his Diocese) - and he died at Warrenpoint, Ireland 2nd December 1946 - I am unable to trace why he was there, the Cemetery or his burial details.
I am very happy to forward a donation to CAFOD as directed and thank you for the help already given and I would be happy to contribute again for any further information that you may offer me in the future.
Best wishes,
Pauline,
DevonAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Pauline,
I'm glad to be of help.
In the Liverpool RC Burial Index there is mention of a Rev. Canon Walmsley, Ford Cemetery, Section: I, Plot: 45, 36 West Derby Road Liverpool L6, Age: 55 years, Interred: 20/11/1868.
And Rev. F Walmsley, Ford cemetery, Section: I, Plot: 18, - INT 010111903 DAY+MONTH NOT KNOWN
I can't recommend any other sites for you to check.
Have you tried contacting St Edwards College, Upholland or the Archivist at the Liverpool Cathedral? Also the local Newspaper at Warrenpoint may say where he is buried. Have you tried to contact the RC parish church at Warrenpoint?
Thank you for any donation you make to CAFOD.
I will ask Jonathan to check for a headstone on Plot SD 685, the next time he is in Ford Cemetery.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Philip Mcloughlin
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 13-Nov-2006 15:10
Patrick
You are an absolute star!!! The address you gave me is the one on the census
for this person.
Would you happen to know how I go on about finding out when he came over to
Liverpool from Ireland and where about in Ireland he came from ? I have the
following members in my tree:
Peter Murray
Joseph Sheehan Born 1876 Ireland
William McLoughlin Born 1840/1842 Ireland ( 2 census record give 2 different dates but same address)
All stated in the census as Ireland as being their birth place. Doesn't state
the location. Is there a record somewhere in Liverpool as having the date
entered into the city and which county in Ireland they came from ? I know
the 19th Century census and records in the GRO in Dublin was destroyed
during the civil war so I'm going to end up a little stuck!
I'm going make another donation as your help has been invaluable!
Many thanks
Phil
Answer sent Sunday 19th November 2006Phil,
I'm glad to be of help.
Finding an address in Ireland for an Irish ancestor was born can be very difficult. It took me 16 years to locate the birth place of one of my Irish ancestor's (Isaac Neill).
Only some of the records were destroyed in the Four Courts fire in Dublin. The Birth, Marriage and Death records and indexes are still available, but they started in 1845 and 1864. I have checked the IRISH GRO records at the Mormon Library in Chorley Lancashire and at Dublin GRO.
As Ireland was part of Britain before independence, there are no records of people coming into Liverpool from Ireland. It's just a mater of checking all Baptisms, Marriages church records as well as all the Census records for a clue where in Ireland an ancestor came from, see:
RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
Thank you for any donations you make to CAFOD.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Smith, Colin
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 14-Nov-2006 13:56
Subject: Death_Burial_Links
Hello again Patrick.
Once again I must call upon your excellent burial look up service.
I'm trying to find my great grandfather's burial place.
His name was Alexander Smith. Born In Ireland in about 1842
He lived most of his married life in the Athol Street area and died in about 1897 aged 54/55 ish?
His wife's name was Frances Smith and she died in 1871. I offer this information as perhaps they are buried together.
Being Catholic I would think he/they are buried in Ford Cemetery.
I will of course make a donation on your behalf to CAFOD at Mass next Sunday whether or not your search is successful.
Best regards
Colin Smith.Answer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Colin,
I did not find your Alexander Smith or his wife Frances in the Liverpool RC Burial records, I did find the following:
Ford Cemetery
Section: SV
Public Plot: 1508Alexander Smith
No address
Age: 5 months
Interment: 3/3/1885Ford Cemetery
Section: BZ
Public Plot: 1200Alexander John Smith
3 Carlton Street, Liverpool L3
Age: 13 months
Interment: 31/5/1894For RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
No donation required.
Regards
Patrick
From: Ian Cain
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 14-Nov-2006 19:46
Subject: Cemetery Search
I am looking for my ancestor.
Henry Cain
Born abt 1841
Died abt 1902
buried I believe at Ford Cemetery
(his wife was Mary Ann NEILL) !!
If you can help please.
Thanks
Ian Cain
Please ignore. I am sorry but he was buried in St Peter and Paul's Great Crosby in at age 50 in 1891 I have since found out:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/sspp/ssppletc.htm
Sorry
Ian CainAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Ian,
I'm glad you found him OK.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Christelle Hinton
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 14-Nov-2006 21:25
Subject: Marriage at St Anne's Overbury street
Hello,
I am doing some research on behalf of a French friend of mine who has
English ancestry. It appears that his great-great-great grandfather was John
Sivertson HARRISON, who married Margaret ANDREWS (his third wife) at St
Anne's in Overbury street.
I'd be grateful to know what information there is for this marriage entry -
I have been told that it was in 1858.
Many thanks,
Michael HINTON, FranceAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Michael,
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
HARRISON, JOHN SIVERTSON (marriage out of place 1.11.1858) & MARGt. ANDREWS, 9-Oct-1858, St Anne's, RC church Overberry Street.
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: michaelking
To: patrick_neill_fh
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:40:35 +0000
Hi Patrick,
Would you be so kind as to look up a couple of my ancestors burial records for me. I'm looking for Arthur King, died West Derby Jan/Feb 1889 aged 41, and Daniel James Coughlin, died 3rd quarter 1907 aged 40, Liverpool. I don't know which cemetery either of them were buried at sorry. Thanks Pat.
regards,
Michael
Best Wishes
M.J.KingAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Michael,
Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Records:
Ford Cemetery
Section: K
Private Plot: 21
Plot Owner: NONE Ried - 5ASarah Reid
Everton District, Liverpool L5
Age: 57 years
Interment: 6/2/1883Arthur King
10 White Rock Street
Age: 41 years
Interment: 4/2/1889
William Reid
13 Sybil Street
Age: 68 years
Interment: 14/3/1892Elizabeth Holland
St Augustine's Home, Liverpool L17
Age: 88 years
Interment: 8/2/1941Josephine L King
Aigburth Road
Age: 63 years
Interment: 18/11/1954Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htmIf you can't get to the grave, I could ask my son (Jonathan) if he could check for a headstone for you. He charges £2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found.
Or £4.00 to post an A4 picture of a headstone.
No charge if no headstone found.For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htmIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
PatrickPS I'll check for the other burial after I have answered all the other emails in my Inbox
From: Dippygang
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 17-Nov-2006 23:52
Subject: REF; RC Marriage index Att of: Marie McQuade
Dear Pat,
I would be extremely grateful if you could help me with a date/ period etc or any information whatsoever on the following record which was listed on the Liverpool Area RC Marriage Index and was assigned to owner Marie McQuade. The Record in question was for:
DAVIS, James marriage to Durry, Bridget married at St Anthony's Church.
Any help or information you could provide would be wonderful and may hopefully lead to me breaking down a very big brick wall. I no longer live in Liverpool so any small guidance on how I can locate this record would be gratefully received.
Thank you for your time and all the great work you do.
Kind Regards
Tricia WestonAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Tricia,
I'm glad to be of help.
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
DAVIS, JAMES & BRIDGET DURRY, 17 AUG 1856, St Anthony's RC church Liverpool
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: george latham
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 18-Nov-2006 08:58
Subject: RC Marriage index
Hi Pat
Could you please send me the Reg details for the following marriages.
St Vincents de Paul, NEARY Marium + Jackobum KELLY.
St Marys Highfield St CLARKE John + Ellen KELLY.
Are you aware of any Index available for ST MALACHYS Beaufort St
Liverepool 8.?
Keep up the good work and cheers from an old SCOUSER in Melbourne Australia
Cheers George.Answer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
George,
I'm glad to be of help. Sorry, I'm not aware of any indexes for St Malachy's Rc church.
Here are the details I have on the marriages:
NEARY, MARIAM & JACOBUM KELLY, 26-Nov-1859, St Vincent de Paul RC church
CLARKE, JOHN & ELLEN KELLY, 01 MAY 1853, St Anthony's RC church, Liverpool
The church marriage registers is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details of one marriage for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the churches, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: Joe Canning
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 18-Nov-2006 22:23
Subject: Yew Tree Cemetery
Hi, I am looking for a record of my great grandfather James Dobson
Died at the age of 52. August 11, 1921 is possibly the date of his death.
Thank you for any information you may find.
Joseph CanningAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Joseph,
Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Records:
Yew Tree Cemetery
Section: 4A
Private Plot: 272
Plot Owner: Jas DobsonEllen Hobson (spelling as found in the records)
77 Connaught Road
Age: 21 years
Interment: 17/11/1909Steven Hessen
Victoria Street - Kidgrove
Age: 49 years
Interment: 24/12/1911Mary Nelson
Mill Road Infirmary, Liverpool L6
Age: 72 years
Interment: 15/1/1919James Joseph Dobson
82 Jubilee Drive
Age: 28 years
Interment: 28/3/1919James Dobson
82 Jubilee Drive
Age: 52 years
Interment: 13/8/1921
Arthur Muir
42 Belmont Road, Liverpool L6 (hospital)
Age: 61 years
Interment: 18/1/1945Here is a plan of Yew Tree Cemetery:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/yewcem.htmIf you can't get to the grave, I could ask my son (Jonathan) if he could check for a headstone for you. He charges £2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found.
Or £4.00 to post an A4 picture of a headstone.
No charge if no headstone found.For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htmIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: michaelking8
To: patrick_neill_fh
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:40:35 +0000
Hi Patrick,
Would you be so kind as to look up a couple of my ancestors burial records for me. I'm looking for Arthur King, died West Derby Jan/Feb 1889 aged 41, and Daniel James Coughlin, died 3rd quarter 1907 aged 40, Liverpool. I don't know which cemetery either of them were buried at sorry. Thanks Pat.
regards,
Michael
Best Wishes
M.J.KingAnswer sent Sunday 19th November 2006
Michael,
I did not find a Daniel James Coughlin in the Liverpool RC Burial Index for the year 1907.
You could try; Bob Halliday <halliday
>, he does a search service for Anfield Cemetery.Regards,
Patrick
Five hours spent answering eighteen family history emails on Sunday 19th November 2006
From: Pat Simpson
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 19-Nov-2006 23:25
Subject: Ford
Hello Pat, hope you can help to unravel this mystery.
Ford, Plot SD 1326. Deed Holder Catherine Dacey 01/01/33 Day and month unknown
Patrick Dacey 32, Goldsmith street L20, age 63 years 19/3/1926
John Lawrence 2, Longfellow Street L20, age 60 years 17/11/1975
Patrick Dacey is my Maternal grandfather, and John Dacey his son, my uncle. But no one knows whom this Catherine Dacey is, her age, where she lived or when she died? I have been told this date,1/1/33 is burial date and, although deed holder, not necessarily buried in this plot
Engraving on tombstone says beloved late wife. Patrick was a single man of 48 when he married and his wife Catherine nee Sinclair died 1971 and buried in Bootle cemetery, and through remarriage 1930, her name was Jackson.
I have been trying for years to sort this out and come up against a brick wall. Hope you can advice me further.
Thank You. Pat
Pat Simpson
Answer sent Sunday 26th November 2006Pat
I checked the Plot Records for SD 1326, no additional information found.
'01/01/33 Day and month unknown' could mean that a headstone was erected some time in 1933.
Sorry I'm not able to assist you further.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Peter Merrick
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 20-Nov-2006 13:58
Subject: St Mary's ChurchHello..
wonder if you can help?
I'm researching my family history (I bet you've heard that a few times before!) and have tracked down a marriage between John LEWIN and Alice HAMIL, in St Mary's Church in January 1850 . I have a copy of the Marriage certificate.. which says that the church was in Edward Street - I presume this is the same church as your index code 'MAR' but this is now Highfield Street. Are they one and the same?
Thanks, (and your website is very interesting!)
Peter MerrickPeter,
Yes, it is the same church, see the history of St Mary's:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/hig.htmMaybe the certificate says Edmund Street.
Glad you find the website of interest.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Peter Merrick
To: Patrick Neill <liverpoolhibernian
Date: 20-Nov-2006 20:42
Subject: Re: St Mary's Church
Thankyou, Patrick,
SO much information in such a short reply! The person who married them was 'Patrick Leavy'.. would that match up?
You must be inundated with secondary questions.. so here's mine..
Would you know how I can start tracing Alice Hamil's ancestors in Ireland? All I have is ''born in Ireland' and I know most of Ireland's records were destroyed .
There are so many Hamill, Hamells, etc in Liverpool. I've looked everywhere - ancestry.co.uk, parish records, .... I probably need to go more local..
PeterAnswer sent Sunday 26th November 2006
Peter,
Here are the only details I have on the marriage:
LEWIN, JOHN & ALICE HAMIL, 11 JAN 1850, St Mary's RC church, Highfield Street
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
You need to check the parish registers and Census entries at the LVRO, for information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspRegards,
PatrickPS. Not all records were destroyed in the Four Court fire in Dublin. Many of the Church of Ireland registers were copied by the parish, before the originals were sent to Dublin, and are still held in the original church.
From: Janet Strangeways
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Cc: cookrf
Date: 24-Nov-2006 06:38
Subject: Marriage Register of St. Oswald's Roman Catholic Church
Dear Ms McCann or M. Neill,
From the web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/mar/mar.htm, I understand that you are the owners of the work project on St Oswald's Roman Catholic Church in the Liverpool archdiocese. Would you please check with the Church Register for St. Oswald's Roman Catholic Church in Old Swan for the third quarter (July, Aug, Sept) 1848 marriage of Luke Weir and Bridget Padin. Does the record indicate the names of the bride's and groom's parents and where in Ireland Luke and Bridget came from?
Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
Robert F. Cook
(I normally use my own e-mail (cookrf) but it seems to not be working so I'm using my wife's account to send this e-mail)
Answer sent Sunday 26th November 2006
Robert,
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
WEIR, LUKE of IRELAND, Co. ROSCOMMON & BRIDGET PADIN of IRELAND, Co. ROSCOMMON, 15 JUL 1848, St Oswald's RC church, Old Swan.
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: Joe Canning
To: Patrick Neill <liverpoolhibernian
Date: 24-Nov-2006 10:00
Subject: Re: Yew Tree Cemetery
Hi Patrick, Thank you so much for the information, I was amazed at how quickly you were able to locate the records. I am also looking for a record of my Great Grandmother and her father. Her name was Jane Dobson (maiden name Nelson) Died January 26, 1954. Age 88. Born July 13, 1867.
Her father's name was John Nelson died 1910. Age 66.
Thank you
Joseph CanningAnswer sent Sunday 26th November 2006
Joseph,
I tend to answer Family History emails once a week, you were just lucky with the timing of your last email.
I did not find one Jane Dobson in the Liverpool RC Burial Index.
I did not find a John Nelson in the Liverpool RC Burial Index, who died in 1910.
You could try; Bob Halliday <halliday
>, he does a search service for Anfield Cemetery.No donation required.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Michael King
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 25-Nov-2006 21:27
Subject: Re: Arthur King burial
Hi Patrick,
Thanks very much for the info you sent. I'd be very grateful if you could do another look-up for me. I'm trying to find the burial record for John Hegan. He died in Liverpool either 1st quarter 1839 or 4th quarter 1843. A John Hegan died on each of these dates but I'm not sure which is the right one. Hopefully the address should give me a clue. Thanks again.
Regards,
Michael.
Answer sent Sunday 26th November 2006Michael,
There are 13 X Hegan's in the Liverpool RC Burial Index, but not one John amongst them.
No donation required,
Regards,
Patrick
From: Gloria
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 26-Nov-2006 03:23
Subject: Frederick Norman RAE
Dear Pat
My Grandfather, Frederick Norman Rae, died on Feb. 11, 1920 at Sefton General Hospital in Toxteth Park U.D. He was 48 years of age.
His residence was 200 Upper Warwick Street, Toxteth Park.
Hopefully you can find his resting place.
Gloria (Rae) Packman
Regina Beach, Saskatchewan.
CanadaAnswer sent Sunday 26th November 2006
Gloria,
There are 12 X Rae's in the Liverpool RC Burial Index, but not one Frederic or Norman amongst them.
No donation required,
You could try; Bob Halliday <halliday
>, he does a search service for Anfield Cemetery.Regards,
Patrick
Two hours spent answering six family history emails on Sunday 26th November 2006
From: Michael King
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 26-Nov-2006 16:41
Subject: Re: Arthur King burial, Ford Cemetery
Pat. Is there a burials index available in the public records office at the library do you know ? Also how comprehensive is the RC marriages section on the Hibernia website. I've recently been viewing parish records at the PRO and wonder whether I'm wasting my time if they've all been transcribed on your site.
Regards,
MichaelAnswer sent Friday 1st December 2006
Michael,
I don't think the PRO have the Liverpool RC Burial Index on microfilm, it is available at the Liverpool Record Office and other locations, see the bottom of the page of:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/rchurchrec.html
The Liverpool RC Marriage Index covers mostly the RC church in Liverpool that existed pre. 1848 or came into being in the 1840/50/60's, this was done to try and capture most of the Irish that came to Liverpool because of the Potato Famine. A list of the churches covered can be seen at the bottom of the page of:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/mar/mar.htm
Marie McQuade has transcribed most of the RC church record in the Liverpool Record Office, see:
http://www.geocities.com/liverpoolregisters/CPRIcolour.html
See also the other registers she has indexed:
http://www.geocities.com/liverpoolregisters/index.html
I can't guarantee that she will reply to your email.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Pat Simpson
To: liverpoolhibernian
Date: 26-Nov-2006 23:10
Subject: Re: Ford
Pat,
Thanks for your kindness and interest in trying to sort this out. Liverpool Library, research, advised that the date concerning the Catherine Dacey was burial date although all records of census and in case, Coroners reports for 5 years before and after date draws a blank, so I will have to keep plodding on or give up.
I will be putting a donation into St. Johns Road, Waterloo CAFOD shop, where I am a regular customer and only this Saturday I purchased rosary beads and medal for my aunt, Patrick Dacey's younger daughter, whom I'm doing this research for, and was only about 5 years old on death of her father.
Cheers, PatAnswer sent Friday 1st December 2006
Pat,
If you contact Sandra Malone at the RC Burial Board (0151 522 1017), she be able to answer your question. Thank you for any donation you make to CAFOD.
Regards,
Patrick
From: A NEWMAN
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 27-Nov-2006 09:36
Subject: Catholic Church
Could you please tell me what happened to St. Mathews Church which used to stand at the junction
Of Queens Drive and Townsend Avenue in Liverpool? In the 1940’s I attended the School and lived
Opposite the Church. It does not appear on your website!! I would be most interested for any information
you could supply.Thank you in anticipation Tony Newman
Answer sent Friday 1st December 2006
Tony,
The church still exists, I will get my son to take some pictures of the church and put them on the website.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Catherine Sansbury
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 27-Nov-2006 20:26
Subject: Burial Record
Hello Patrick
I am try to find the burial record of my grandmother Catherine Nolan who
died 5th Jan 1929 at Byrom Terrace. I think it would be Ford Cemetery. I
would be grateful if you could tell me the names of anyone else buried with
her.
I would willingly make a donation to CAFOD.
Thank you
Catherine
Answer sent Friday 1st December 2006Catherine,
Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Records:
Ford Cemetery
Section: SD
Private Plot: 559
Plot Owner: Catherine PorterCatherine Nolan
37 Byrom Terrace
Age: 59 years
Interment: 10/1/1929Thomas Baker
City Hospital East, Liverpool L8
Age: 16 months
Interment: 7/5/1929Maureen Tinsley
Alder hey Hospital, Liverpool L12
Age: 3 months
Interment: 16/3/1933Mary Ann Baker
107 Rice Lane, Liverpool L9 (hospital)
Age: 40 years
Interment: 20/9/1934Anita O'Dwyer
Alder hey Hospital, Liverpool L12
Age: 11 months
Interment: 24/11/1934William Baker
107 Rice Lane, Liverpool L9 (hospital)
Age: 46 years
Interment: 16/2/1935John Connor
241 Westminster Road, Liverpool L4
Age: 62 years
Interment: 12/6/1936Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htmIf you can't get to the grave, I could ask my son (Jonathan) if he could check for a
headstone for you. He charges £2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found.
Or £4.00 to post an A4 picture of a headstone.
No charge if no headstone found.
For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htmThank you for any donation you make to CAFOD
Regards,
Patrick
From: hilary rimmer
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 28-Nov-2006 20:06
Subject: A marriage at St. Patricks
Between Christpherum Mitchell and Helenam.
Can I find out when this marriage took place.
Thank You
Hilary Rimmer.Answer sent Friday 1st December 2006
Hilary,
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
MITCHELL, CHRISTOFERUM & HELENAM FITZGERALD, 30 JUN 1873, St Patrick's RC church
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: clare_fleming
To: patrick_neill_fh
Subject: Ford Cemetary
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:43:02 +0000
Hi Patrick
I was in touch with you quite a while ago about my family history and I'm just getting back into researching it now.
Would you be able to let me have the details for these burial plots in Ford cemetery, please? I think last time you were able to give me the names of the plot owners, and the addresses, ages and dates of death of the people.
Catherine and James Mina - AD 149 - year 1911
Henry Mina - X 610 - year 1905
Joseph Mina - RD 51 - year 1913
Mathew Mina - DZ 393 - year 1865
Are these private plots or pauper graves?
Thanks,
ClareAnswer sent Friday 1st December 2006
Clare,
Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Records:
Ford Cemetery
Section: AD
Public (Pauper) Plot: 149Catherine Mina
Liverpool Workhouse Liverpool L3
Age: 61 years
Interment: 14/2/1911
Ford Cemetery
Section: X
Public (Pauper) Plot: 610Henry Mina
Toxteth Workhouse Liverpool L15
Age: 36 years
Interment: 5/11/1905
Ford Cemetery
Section: DZ
Public (Pauper) Plot: 393Mathew Minan
1 Cemeas Street, Liverpool L5
Age: 63 years
Interment: 14/12/1865There will be no markers on Public (Pauper) Graves. But if you speak to the grave diggers at the cemetery, they may be able to guide you to the plot, they are normally there Monday to Friday.
Ford Cemetery
Section: RD
Private Plot: 51
Plot Owner: P. McDonoughJoseph Mina
Southern Hospital, Liverpool L8
Age: 18 years
Interment: 18/5/1913Ann Anderson
126 Smithdown Road, Liverpool L15 (hospital)
Age: 81 years
Interment: 112/3/1924Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htmIf you can't get to the grave, I could ask my son (Jonathan) if he could check for a headstone for you. He charges £2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found.
Or £4.00 to post an A4 picture of a headstone.
No charge if no headstone found.For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htmIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: Mitchell, Bill
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 29-Nov-2006 17:48
Subject: Marriage Information
Dear Pat Neill,
I would like additional information regarding the marriage of Hugonem Quintin Rhodes to Amatam Price, which was listed in the Liverpool RC Marriage Index, with code PP (SS Peter Paul's, Crosby L23-26 Aug 1827 to 25 Mar 1932).
Any assistance you can provide would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Bill Mitchell
Seattle, WA
USAAnswer sent Friday 1st December 2006
Bill
Here are the details I have on the marriage:
RHODES, HUGONEM QUINTIN & AMATAM PRICE, 30-Mar-23, SS Peter & Paul's RC church Crosby.
The church marriage register is held at Crosby Library:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/seflib.htmIf you contact the them, they may give you the full details for FREE.
For pictures of the church, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspIf the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a
small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:
(online or by phone)
UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/Or by check/cheque, see:
http://www.cafod.org.uk/get_involved/give_money/by_chequeRegards,
Patrick
From: Jack Bryant
To: LiverpoolHibernian
Date: 30-Nov-2006 20:25
Subject: Marriages in St Peters Seel street
Dear Patrick
I have not contacted you before and wondered if you could help me.
My great Grandparents Angelique Judith Dugas and Louise Bryant were married in St Peters Seel Street. They are listed as being French subjects in the 1881 census. Angelique had a son Ernest Dugas who was an "Inmate" in The Holy trinity Industrial school Grafton Street
Toxteth in 1881.
My other great grandparents married in St Peters in 1868 they were Fernando Sido and Bridget Henley. All these people are listed in your excellent R.C. marriage Records.
They had three children Sarah Teresa and Frerederick and they all lived in Toxteth around Lydia Anne Street.
I am not a member of your group but have always been attracted to Liverpool although I speak with a Glasgow accent. I am more than happy to donate to C.A.FO.D
I really wanted to know if there was a French or Italian Community in Seel Street and connected with St Peters an if the names Henley{irish} Sido{italian) Dugas{French} Bryant{French} have any connections past or present with Seel Street St Peters or Toxteth. Perhaps you could tell me where the parish records are kept.
I am getting on in years and have been wondering what sort of life people had in Liverpool in the late 19th century it has occupied my mind during my retirement
Jack Bryant
Answer sent Friday 1st December 2006
Jack,
Here are the details I have on the marriages:
DUGAS, ANGELIQUE JUDITH & LOUIS BRYANT, 10 MAR 1881, St Peter's RC church, Seel Street
SIDO, FERNANDUM & BIRGITTAM HENLEY, 24 NOV 1868, St Peter's RC church, Seel Street
SIDO, TERESAM & ERNESTUM ADOLPHUM BRYANT, 11 MAR 1893, St Patrick's RC church
The church marriage register is held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):
http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.htmlIf you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details of one marriage for FREE.
Here is their Email address:
recoffice.central.library
For pictures of the churches, see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htmFor information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm
If you want a copy of a Civil Marriage Certificate, you will need to
contact the Liverpool Register Office, see:
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.aspHere are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Records:
Ford Cemetery
Section: SJ
Public (Pauper) Plot: 1277Frederick Sido
131 Grafton Street, Liverpool L8
Age: 65 years
Interment: 17/12/1923
Ford Cemetery
Section: SJ
Public (Pauper) Plot: 1173Bridget Sids (spelling as found)
131 Grafton Street, Liverpool L8
Age: 61 years
Interment: 11/4/1923There will be no markers on Public (Pauper) Graves. But if you speak to the grave diggers at the cemetery, they may be able to guide you to the plot, they are normally there Monday to Friday.
Some of Liverpool RC churches were very good at giving the birth place of people (St Patrick's church was one of the best at doing this, St Peter's Seel Street was one of the worst). There were French and Italian communities in several locations in Liverpool, see Cultural Roots of the Liverpool People:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/roots/main.htm
Scottie Press, Little Italy:
http://www.scottiepress.org.uk/main.htm
If the information I have supplied is of interest, please make a donation to CAFOD, thank you
Regards,
Patrick
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