Hibernia Family History Emails for October 2005

Hibernia Family History Emails for October 2005

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From: bosie 

Date: 02-Oct-2005 18:41
Subject: MARY ANN MCCABE

 

Dear Pat,
I wonder if you would be able to look up in the Ford, Yew Tree and Ainsdale RC cemeteries for me?
The full name is: 

MARY ANN MCCABE (my Grandmother)

The Cemetery is unknown, but the above three have been mentioned due to their proximity to Walton Hospital where she died and 59a St. Johns Road, Waterloo, where she lived.
The date of death was 8th July 1967
Age was 78
The address was as above 59a St. Johns Road, Waterloo, Liverpool.
Thanking you in advance,
Rosie

Answer sent on Sunday 2nd October  2005:

Rosie,

I did not find Mary Ann McCabe (death 8th July1967) in the Liverpool RC Burial index.

Regards,

Patrick


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Chris Bernard" 
Subject: Marriages at St Nicholas.
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 00:51:13 +0100

Dear Patrick Neill,
                                Please forgive this unsolicited email. I
was hoping you could tell me where I might find some information on
marriages solemnized in St Nicholas -  the marriage records for 1826?

Thank you for your time in this matter.

Yours sincerely,
Chris Bernard

Answer sent on Saturday 8th October  2005:

Chris,

There are marriage records for two St Nicholas churches held in the Liverpool Record Office. For the RC church which started in 1827, see RECORDS OF ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCHES HELD AT THE LIVERPOOL RECORD OFFICE:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/rchurchrec.html

&

Liverpool Area RC Marriage Index Home Page:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/mar/mar.htm

The CofE church records started 1754, some of these appear in the Latter-day Saints (Mormon) IGI, see:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

The Liverpool Record Office (LVRO)  URL is:

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for One marriage for FREE.

Here is their email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

Regards,

Patrick


From: judy & john smith 
Date: 04-Oct-2005 12:41
Subject: R.C Burials Look up Request Please

 

Dear Pat
I am hoping you can please help me with this one.
I am trying to locate the burial ( & then the death date) of my gt.gt.grandmother.
I believe her name was Sarah O'Neill, but it has been written as Neil, O'Neale & O'Neil at various times.
She has also been referred to as "Mary" although I don't think that was her real name.
Her husband was Patrick/Peter O'Neill & he deserted her in 1867, sailed for Australia, & to my knowledge never saw her again.
Patrick & Sarah were married at St Anthony's R.C. Church in 1853.
In 1871 I think she was living with her son (James) & daughter (Mary) in Latimer Street, Liverpool.
Her daughter married on 1/7/1878 & was living in Silvester Street at the time of her marriage.
Her son James sailed for Australia in Oct 1878 & she had died by that time.  According to family "lore" she died in the 12 months before his leaving for Australia, but I cannot verify this.
She died sometime between the 1871 census date & Oct 1878, most likely in 1877.  She was born in Ireland  c.1835.
She was very poor & may have been buried in a pauper's grave.  She was definitely of the Catholic faith.
 
I'm sorry I haven't been able to supply better information, I have been unable to locate her death on the GRO Index, hence my desire to find not only where she was buried, but when?
Thank you very much for your generous offer of assistance.
Those of us who can't visit the Liverpool record office certainly need it!
Regards
Judy Smith
South Australia.

Answer sent on Monday 10th October  2005:

Judy,

I checked the various spelling but could only find this Sarah who was about the right age: 

Ford Cemetery
Section: SJ
Public plot: 1213
Sarah Nealan
30 Gore Street, Liverpool L8
Age: 44 years
Interred: 3/5/1877

But Gore Street is in St Patrick's parish, which is south of the city centre. The church and address's you give are north of the city centre...:

Regards,

Patrick

From: judy & john smith 
Date: 11-Oct-2005 14:26
Subject: Re: R.C Burials Look up Request Please

It's me again!
Just a thought.
Is it difficult to discover who else is buried in the plot?
I see it's "public plot" does that mean others buried there are
irrelevant/coincidental?
Thanks once again for your help.  I wish the Liverpool Record office was
just a touch closer!
Regards
Judy

Answer sent on Tuesday 11th October  2005:

Judy,
There are 31 people interred in the Public Plot (SJ 1213). Another name for a Public Plot is a Pauper Grave. A Pauper Grave is a pit were coffins are buried very close together, they people buried there are not related to each other, they where just buried together as there was no one to pay for a private plot.
Regards,
Patrick


From: Barbara Taylor 
Date: 04-Oct-2005 15:06
Subject: Liverpool RC Marriage Indexes

Dear Pat

Just browsed through your excellent web site and wondered if you could help me
locate my 3 x great grandfather James Gibbons and the children of what might
be his second marriage.

James Gibbons - Margaret Sullivan (wid Connolly) (MAR) (between 1854-1863)

Bridget Gibbons  - Michael Connery (ANT) (from 1878 onwards) (Marie McQuaid)
Bridget Gibbons  - Michael Kelly (PET)) (Marie McQuaid)
Bridget Gibbons  - Thomas Dwyer (PET) (Marie McQuaid)

Catherine Gibbons - Walter Merlin (ANT) (from 1878 onwards)
Catherine Gibbons - Joannem Hogan (JOS) ( Josie McCann)

Sarah Gibbons - Patrick Roddy (ANT) (from 1873 onwards) (Marie McQuaid)

As a matter of interest, is there any other information with
the parish register or will I have to get the marriage certificate to find out
ages, occupations and fathers' names.  Sorry to be so ignorant.

Please let me know what donation you require.

Many thanks for your time and efforts - I'm really hoping that this
is the information I need to help me knock down a long standing brickwall and
find my 3 x great grandfather.

Best wishes

Barbara Taylor

Answer sent on Tuesday 11th October  2005:

Barbara,

Here are the only details I have on these marriages:

GIBBONS, JAMES & MARGARET SULLIVAN(wid.CONNOLLY), 10 FEB 1850, St
Mary's RC church, Highfield Street

GIBBINS, BRIGIDAE & PATRITIUM McGOVERN, 7 JUL 1874, St Patrick's church
GIBBONS, BIRGITTAM of IRELAND, MAYO & JOANNEM REILLY, 15-May-1861, Holy Cross
GIBBONS, BIRGITTAM & JACOBUM ASHTON, 5 AUG 1860, St Nicholas 
GIBBONS, BRIDGET & MICHAEL CONERRY, 06 JUN 1852, St Anthony's
GIBBONS, BRIDGET & MICHAEL KELLY(wid.), 23 APR 1854, St Peter's Seel Street
GIBBONS, BRIDGET & THOMAS DWYER, 22 JAN 1854, St Peter's Seel Street

GIBBONS(wid.DEVERIX), CATHERINE & GEORGE SHAW(wid.), 13 MAY 1838, St Nicholas 
GIBBONS, CATHARINE & WALER MERLIN, 11 JUL 1852, St Anthony's
GIBBONS, CATHERINAM of IRELAND MAYO & JOANNEM HOGAN, 17 JUN 1860, St Joseph's 

GIBBONS, SARAH & PATRICK RODDY, 3-Oct-1848, St Anthony's

The information in the RC Parish Registers varies from one church to another and one Priest to another. Some give very little information (St Mary's & St Peter's), other sometimes give additional information like an address's in Ireland and the mother's name (St Anthony's & St Patrick's). It's all a bit of a lottery, you don't know what you will find, until you take a look.

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details of One/Two marriages for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the churches, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Regards,

Patrick 

PS If you want to order a copy of a marriage certificate, you will need to contact the Liverpool Registrars Office:

http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.asp


From: Michelle 
Date: 07-Oct-2005 00:38
Subject: Marriages_Hibernia_web_site

Hi Pat,
I have found your Irish-Liverpool web pages great.  I have even found my
gggrandfather who eloped Ireland in 1859 and married in Liverpool.  .
McMASTER, ELIZABETH     MACHAELES MAIGHAN       AUG

Can I ask - how do I go about getting a copy of the wedding certificate?
 I was going to order the relevant fiche index but I don't have
anything to read it with.

Kind regards,
Michelle

Answer sent on Monday 10th October  2005:

Michael

Here are the only details I have on this marriage:

MAIGHAN, MACHAELES of IRELAND & ELIZABETH McMASTER of IRELAND, 30 MAY 1859, St Augustine's RC church

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Australia - http://www.caritas.org.au/howtohelp/index.htm

Regards,

Patrick 

PS If you still want to order a copy of the marriage certificate, you will need to contact the Liverpool Registrars Office:

http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/registrars_office/certificates/index.asp


From: Margaret Matthews
Date: 11-Oct-2005 13:21
Subject: Annie Mallett

I believe the above named is my grandmother who died after giving birth to my father in April 1915.  I understand she is buried in Section M, Plot 2084.

As my father had no information regarding his mother (and he is also now deceased) , I am trying to piece my family history together.

Do you have any records regarding Annie (nee Carville who I believe was born in Ireland).

Many thanks for any assistance,

Margaret Matthews

Answer sent on Tuesday 11th October  2005:

Margaret,

Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Plot Records for Ford Cemetery:

Ford Cemetery
Section: M
Private Plot 2084
Plot Owner: Julie Mallelt (this is the spelling in the plot records)

William Mullett (this is the spelling in the plot records)
Northern Hospital, Liverpool, L3
Age: 25 years
Interred: 20/4/1906

William Mallelt (this is the spelling in the plot records)
Upper Hill Street, - 6 Court - 6 house
56 years
25/4/1906

Julie Mallett
Rain Hill Asylum
57 years
5/3/1908

James Mallett
16 Denbigh Street
3 days
3/2/1911

Annie Mallelt
31 Cumberland Street
31 years
18/4/1915

Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htm

If you can't get to the Cemetery, my son (Jonathan) could check for a headstone for you.
He charges 2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found.
Or 4.00 to post a picture of a headstone.
No charge if no headstone found.

He accepts payment via :

1. Pound Sterling cheques/checks
2. PayPal (credit card): https://www.paypal.com

Here is his email address: livireres?yahoo.co.uk

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Regards,

Patrick in Walmersley, Lancashire

PS. I have no records regarding Annie (nee Carville)


From: judy & john smith 
Date: 12-Oct-2005 10:49
Subject: Re: R.C Burials Look up Request Please

Dear Patrick
Sorry to be bothering you, but I have been searching the Free BMD just using
the Christian name Sarah & I found a Sarah Tinckler, 36 years, died West
Derby, March quarter 1877.

My Sarah O'Neill was a Tinkler before her marriage, & as she had been
deserted by her husband, it's possible that she changed her name, although
unlikely in those days.

When you have time ( I realise others will be waiting for your help) would
you please check to see if this Sarah Tinckler is buried in a Catholic
cemetery.

I am thinking of applying for the death certificate, but the only real
knowledge I have of my mystery gt grandmother is that she was a devout
Catholic.
Many thanks
Judy

Answer sent on Thursday 20th October  2005:

Judy,

I did not find one Tinkler/Tinckler in the Liverpool RC Burial Index.

Regards,

Patrick


From: TOM REDMOND 
Date: 12-Oct-2005 13:20
Subject: bmd
Dear Pat, I am trying to research my grandparents' history They were James Redmond and Maria [unknown] Maybe they were Jacobum Redmond and Mariam Kelly who are in your  files, under REC. They would have married about 1885.Can you help, please?
                                                                                                              Tom Redmond.

Answer sent on Thursday 20th October  2005:

Tom,

The dates seems a bit early... Here are the only details I have on this marriage:

REDMOND, JACOBUM & MARIAM KELLY, 04 SEP 1877, Our Lady of Reconciliation RC church

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Patrick 


From: annkilshaw 
Date: 14-Oct-2005 11:13
Subject: marriage index
Hello, I am trying to trace my ancestors marriage in Liverpool, they were JOHN CONNOR & MARGARET ?  I don't yet know her maiden name, I have looked on your index and seen 3 John Connors married to a Margaret, the first one a MARGARET CAVANAGH  I think would not be them as its the wrong time frame, but if I could have the dates  etc of the other 2 marriages .. being to a MARGARET PHILLIPS & MARGARET PARRY at ST PATRICK'S , I would be most grateful for your help.
 I have had help from you before on another of my ancestors and found it so very helpful, so thanks for that.
                            yours sincerely Ann Kilshaw.

Answer sent on Thursday 20th October  2005:

Ann,

Here are the only details I have on these marriages:

CONNOR, JOANNEM & MARGARITAM PHILIPS, 07-Nov-1909, St Patrick's RC church

CONNOR, JOANNEM & MARGARETAM PARRY, 28 NOV 1865, St Patrick's RC church

CONNOR, JOHANNEM & MARGARETAM CAVANAGH, 04 NOV 1877, Our Lady of Reconciliation RC church

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for ONE/TWO for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm


If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Patrick 


From: synedis 
Date: 15-Oct-2005 12:07
Subject: church marriage record

Attention Marie McQuade
Hello
Where could I find a print of the marriage record of my ancestors:
code PET:

Margaritam McGrath and Josephum King married in 1882 (St Alexander or St Peter's?)

Many thanks
Regards
Denis J Schmidt
(Australia)

Answer sent on Thursday 20th October  2005:

Dennis,

Here are the only details I have on this marriage:

KING, JOSEPHUM & MARGARETA McGRATH, 2 OCT 1889, St Peter's RC church, Seel Street

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Australia - http://www.caritas.org.au/howtohelp/index.htm

Patrick 


From: Sheila 
Date: 17-Oct-2005 20:11
Subject: Ford Cemetery

Dear Patrick...I wonder if you might have any Fahey records for Ford Cemetery please from 1880s plus.

thanks Rosemarie 

Answer sent on Thursday 20th October  2005:

Rosemarie,

There are over 80 X Fahey's in the RC Burial Index, too many for me to give you all the detail.

See, Liverpool Area RC Cemetery Search Service:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/rccem.htm


I have on microfiche the combined index to FORD, YEW TREE & AINSDALE RC Cemeteries 1859 - 1989 and the plot records. The index contains over 250,000 names, mostly of Irish descent. I am willing to search these records,
I require the following:

If I am successful, all I ask is that you send a donation to CAFOD (Catholic Fund for Overseas Development) or any famine relief charity of your choice.

An example of the information from the combined index:-

NAME			CEMETERY	SECTION	PLOT	DATE
NEILL. AGNES		FORD		R	909	 3/ 6/1921	INTERMENT
.
.
NEILL. ELIZABETH	YEW TREE	A	770	12/ 6/1925	INTERMENT
.
.
NEILL. MARGARET		FORD		R	909			DEED HOLDER

An example of the information from the plot records:-

FORD 		SECTION: R

PLOT	OWNER
	
	MARGARET NEILL
		AGNES NEILL, 30 WOLFE, STREET
		AGE: 25.0 YEARS				 3/ 6/1921
		EDWARD NEILL, 126, SMITHDOWN ROAD, L15
		AGE: 34.0 YEARS				16/ 7/1938
		

Regards,

Patrick

 


From: DOROTHY HUGHES
Date: 20-Oct-2005 09:56
Subject: Marriage at St Vincent de Paul
 

Hello

 
I would be very grateful for details of a marriage with the code VIN (Marie McQuade)
 
It is:-
 
KELLY Joannem Josephum  and  SLOAN Mariam Annam
 
I will, of course, make a donation as requested.
 
Many thanks
Dorothy Kelly-Hughes

Answer sent on Saturday 22nd October  2005:

Dorothy,

Here are the only details I have on the marriage:

SLOAN, MARIAM ANNAM & JOANNEM JOSEPHUM KELLY, 16-Jun-1884, St Vincent de Paul's RC church.

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Patrick


From: Sheila 
Date: 20-Oct-2005 17:47
Subject: John Fahey
 

Dear Patrick..........I hope I will have enough for you to go on, but all I have is this

 
John Fahey appx  age 65..Roman Catholic died sometime between 1905 and 1916. I believe he may have lived in Langsdale Street L.3, but not certain. Many of his children are buried in Ford Cemetery, so I am presuming this might be the one.
thanks

Answer sent on Saturday 22nd October  2005:

Sheila,

There are six X John Fahey in the Liverpool RC Burial Index, but none were buried between 1905 & 1916

Regards,

Patrick


From: colin riley
Date: 20-Oct-2005 21:10
Subject: Patk Rieley

 

Please send me details of the marriage coded ANT Patk Rieley to Elizabeth Fitzpatrick.
 
Regards
Colin Riley

Answer sent on Saturday 22nd October  2005:

Colin,

Here are the only details I have on this marriage:

RIELEY, PATk. & ELIZABETH FITZPATRICK, 13 AUG 1854, St Anthony's RC church

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Patrick Neill in Walmersley Lancashire


From: akaje
Date: 21-Oct-2005 15:11
Subject: Liverpool Marriage

Dear Pat

Please supply any information on the following marriage:

SMITH, JOHN   &  MARGARET BURNS
St. Patrick's, Park Place, L8

Thanks in advance
Alan Austin
(great great grandson of above couple)

Answer sent on Saturday 22nd October  2005:

Alan,

Here are the only details I have on this marriage:

SMITH, JOHN of IRELAND, DUBLIN & MARGARET BURNS, 27 JAN 1851, St Patrick's RC church

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Patrick


From: dave howitt 
Date: 21-Oct-2005 21:21
Subject: Ford Cemetary

 

Dear Pat
I have just come across your site and note that you hold records of burials at Ford Cemetery. I am trying to find the burial plot for my grandfather. Details as follows;
Name   Henry McCabe
Died     1940-43
Born     Approx 1885/86 in Widnes
 
Thanks for any help you may be able to give me.
 
Regard
 Angela Howitt

Answer sent on Saturday 22nd October  2005:

Angela,

There are four X Henry McCabe's in the Liverpool RC Burial Index, but none were buried between 1940 & 1943.

Regards,

Patrick


From: Elaine <em001p1297?blueyonder.co.uk>
To: LiverpoolHibernian?gmail.com
Date: 23-Oct-2005 18:51
Subject: Ford Cemetery

Hello  Pat

I've just visited your website and I'd be more than happy to make a donation to charity whether or not you are successful with this request. I'm looking for the grave of John Miles Sumner and his wife Mary Ann. Their son Thomas may be with them. 

I would guess that John died after 1930 and his son maybe 20 years later but I've no idea about the wife. John was born 1875 if that's any help. Family legend suggests they are in Ford cemetery. Can you help please? Elaine

Answer sent on Monday 24th October  2005:

Elaine,

I did not find John Miles Sumner in the RC Liverpool Burial Index. There are two Thomas Sumner's, but they are too early, both in Ford Cemetery; one was buried on 10/9/1928, the other was buried on 9/7/1878.

No donation required.

Regards,

Patrick


From: Walter Shaw 
Date: 24-Oct-2005 14:57
Subject: cemetery search
Hello Patrick
you got some great info for my wife Marie, and was wondering if you would look up my Grandmothers grave, the details that I have, are as follows.
Mary Berrill
age 40
died 02/03/1924
at 144a Brownlow Hill
I would appreciate your help and my donation will go to Cafod.
Regards Wal

Wal,

Here are the details from the Liverpool RC Burial Index:

Ford Cemetery
Section: AS
Plot: 549
Plot Owner: Peter B. Berril (Deed on File)

John Thomas Berril
Highfield Sanatorium, Liverpool L14 
Age: 18 years
5/10/1922

Mary Berril
8 Cemeas Street (Liverpool Workhouse, L3)
Age: 40 years
Interment: 6/3/1924

Elizabeth Berril
Alder Hey Hospital, Liverpool L12
Age: 3 months
2/5/1924

Peter Berril
Lourdes Hospital, Liverpool L18
Age: 53 years
6/4/1934

Joseph Rice
Alder Hey Hospital, Liverpool L12
Age: 1 Week
16/11/1939


Ann Colquhoun
Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital, Liverpool L7
Age: 3 months
19/9/1940

Here is a plan of Ford Cemetery:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/fordcem.htm

If you can't get to the Cemetery, my son (Jonathan) could check for a headstone for you.
He charges 2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found.
Or 4.00 to post an A4 picture of a headstone.
No charge if no headstone found.

He accepts payment via :

1. Pound Sterling cheques/checks
2. PayPal (credit card): https://www.paypal.com

Here is his email address: liverpoolpictures?gmail.com

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Regards,

Patrick


From: "Barbara Laska" 
Subject: St. Patrick's R.C.Church Marriage Index.
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:44:30 -0700

Dear Mr. Neill,

I am researching my family history, and have arrived at St. Patrick's Church
Marriage Index.

I was born in Liverpool  and my maiden name was KILTY, my father was JAMES KILTY, grandfather JAMES
KILTY
, and great-grandfather also JAMES KILTY!

It is regarding my great grandfather that I am writing to  you.

I have recently received the marriage certificate  from Liverpool for my
great grandparents James Kilty  AND Catherine Quinn, showing the date of
their marriage 24 June 1877 at St, Patrick's Chapel - which has also enabled
me to find the names of my great great grandparents - Patrick and Rose Kilty
 of 23 Rockbrook Street, Toxteth.

James Kilty  was born in Liverpool, however Catherine Quinn  was born in
Ireland, and I am wondering if the church register would show which part of
Ireland she came from?

Patrick and Rose  were also born in Ireland - would there be any indication
to where they came from in the register.  I am not sure if they were married
when they arrived, or if they also married at St. Patrick's?
There are other Kilty's in the index, two Patrick's but not to a Rose, so I
am not sure about these as I do not have her surname.    Patrick was born
abt. 1816 and Rose abt 1823 in Ireland?

Regarding Christenings at St. Patrick's, is there an index, and also a
burial index.  I am not sure either if there is a cemetery at St. Patrick's.

I would be very grateful if you could provide any information, or
suggestions or where to go from here.

I will look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks

Yours sincerely,

Barbara (Kilty) Laska
Quebec Street
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

Answer sent on Saturday 29th October  2005:


Barbara,

Here are the only details I have on this marriage:

KILTY, JACOBUM & CATHARINAM QUINN, 24 JUN 1877, St Patrick's RC church

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the FULL details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

There are some indexes to the baptisms at St Patrick, the LVRO may do a search for you (see above).

There was a Graveyard  at St Patrick's, but no index.

Regards,

Patrick 


From: Nik Kelly 
Date: 26-Oct-2005 00:01
Subject: Mathew Kelly & Esther McGuirk

Hi, I'm retracing my 'family tree aunts' previous explorations, partly
curiosity, partly to fill out a 'probate'.

Please note: I'm NOT in a hurry, I AM searching elsewhere, I have ample info
to complete form, I am just using 'reasonable care' and checking the wwweb
for an unexpected link.

Mathew Kelly & Esther McGuirk were my grandparents, married at your code
PAT.

What more can your records tell me ??

For info:

M&E's children were Matthew, Ett, Joan, Lil, Jess, Phil, plus Lucy died
infant.

M's *known* sibs were Jessica, Mary, Edward, Peter, Joseph, plus 1~~3 more =
infant/young??

E's *known* sibs were Thomas, Patrick, Mary, plus Bartholemew died aged ~ 4
yr.

RSVP.

Thank You,

Nik

Answer sent on Saturday 29th October  2005:

Nik,

Here are the only details I have on this marriage:

KELLY, MATTHEW & ESTHER McGUIRK, 20-May-06, St Patrick's RC church

The records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they will give you the full details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Regards,

Patrick


From: T.N.Murphy 
Date: 29-Oct-2005 05:07
Subject: RC Baptismal records L'pool

Dear Pat Neill.

I found your name attached to a RC mostly Irish marriage index for
the L'pool area and I decided to ask for your advice.  I hope that
you will not mind.

I have been trying for some years now to trace the birth of a
relative of mine born in Liverpool according to her entry in the 1901
Irish Census and, if I remember correctly a letter of my mother's
received when I lived in the West Derby area in the 1950's, born more
particularly in West Derby. Unfortunately I can find no trace of her
in the Births Index so I am reduced to finding a baptismal record.

Do you know whether indexes of RC baptisms for  L'pool exist and if
so where they are kept?

Do you know of a person whom I could request to carry out the
research on my behalf?

Details:  Henrietta Milner
         Born Liverpool (West Derby?)
          March 1883 - March 1884 seem most likely from 1901 Census.
          On March 31st. 1901 she was an orphan and gives her age as 17.
          Father's name: Henry Milner. Mother's name: Margaret Smith

I am certain that she would have been baptized shortly after birth
since that was the strong custom of her mother.  The family was in
Dublin in February 1879 when a child was born there and again in June
1884 when this child died.  They do not appear in the 1881 U.K.
census.

With apologies if I have imposed upon you.

Noel Murphy

Answer sent on Saturday 29th October  2005:

Noel,

The only person I know who has indexes of Liverpool RC baptisms is Marie McQuade, see:

http://www.geocities.com/liverpoolregisters/RCBAPS.html

Marie has not used emails for a long time. You could try writing
to her, here is her address:

Miss M. McQuade BA
8 Ecclesall Avenue
Litherland.
Merseyside.
L12 5HQ.

Regards,

Patrick


From: Suzanne
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: re Irish in Liverpool

Hello , I am researching the Murray family , Peter Murray and his wife
Bridget Dobbin, two of their sons John Peter Murray who was sent to
Tasmania for theft of a haunch of Venison in 1837 and his brother
William who came out to join John, both men have their parents names
on their death certificates, and that they came from Ireland and the
boys were born Liverpool UK.

I would assume these folks were RC being Irish indeed John is buried
in the RC section in Melbourne General Cemetery Victoria Australia,
maybe you have their names in RC records? Another brother moved to
Leeds.
the boys John born 1820
William born 1834
Henry born 1808
I know there is a huge gap in ages which leaves me to think there are siblings
Thank you
Suzanne

Answer sent on Monday 31st October  2005:

Suzanne,

I checked the Index to the RC Burials Board of Liverpool and found the following.  But I suspect they are a bit young to be the Peter & Bridget you are looking for:

Ford Cemetery
Section: DZ
Public Plot: 181
Peter Murray
Crosshall Street, 3 Court Liverpool L2
Age: 60 years 
Interment: 21/9/1864

Bridget Murray
Ford Cemetery
Section: SJ
Public Plot: 449
Bridget Murray
Addison Street, 33 Court, Liverpool L3
Age: 63 years
Interment: 22/11/1872

The Index to the 1851 Census of Liverpool shows these two possibilities:

MURRAY BRIDGET - IRELAND, 304A 2178/2
MURRAY PETER, LABOURER ,IRELAND, 304A 2178/2

MURRAY BRIDGET, HAWKER, IRL. MAYO, 782A 2178/4
MURRAY JOHN, SCHOLAR, IRL. MAYO, 782A 2178/4
MURRAY MARY, HOUSE SERVANT, IRL. MAYO, 782A 2178/4
MURRAY PETER, LABOURER, IRL. MAYO, 782A 2178/4

The Census records are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

If you contact the LVRO, they may give you the full details for FREE.

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

Regards,

Patrick


From: "maxine" 
Subject: St Anthony's
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:31:51 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)

Hi Pat.

I was wondering if you help me?

There's a brass plaque in St Anthony's of all the men that died in the
1914/18 world war.

I was wondering if St Anthony's itself would hold information on the men and
what ship they might of died on etc etc, as I have no luck anywhere else.

I'm looking for a Patrick Whelan who is on the Plaque it's self..

Thanks
Maxine.

Answer sent on Monday 31st October  2005:

Maxine,

The email address for St Anthony's is:

stanthony?btconnect.com

But I don't think they will have any information.

Have you tried the Commonwealth War Graves Commission:

http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/SearchResults.aspx?surname=whelan&initials=p&war=1&yearfrom=1900&yearto=2000

Regards,

Patrick


From: judy & john smith 
Date: 30-Oct-2005 06:49
Subject: Re: R.C Burials Look up Request Please
 
Dear Pat,
I have found a death for a Sarah O'Neill in the Free BDM index, for June
Quarter 1879, West Derby.
Would you mind having another look for me, to see if you have a
corresponding burial in your cemetery index.
This year is later than I would have thought, but everything else has been
"not quite right" so why not?
I would like to apply for the death certificate if this Sarah O'Neill is
buried in Ford Cemetery.
Many thanks once again.
Best wishes
Judy
PS. I hope you don't mind, we have donated to The Salvation Army Overseas
Relief Appeal.

Answer sent on Monday 31st October  2005:

Judy,

I did not find a Sarah O'Neill in the Liverpool RC Burial Index for the year 1879.

No donation required.

Regards,

Patrick


Emma McFall
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: St. Albans church Records

My name is Emma McFall and my mother's family were from the Vauxhall
area - Lower Milk Street, Bond Street.  They were a Catholic Family
and my mother was born in 1900 her name was Emma Cashman and she had
one brother Edward, and two sisters Catherine and Annie their parents
were born in Liverpool to Irish parents.

My great-grandparents were from Ireland but I do not know the area
they were born in. They were married in St. Albans church in 1893 and
what I would like to know (if possible) is where can I find the church
records, did they go to Central Library?

I would also like to find anything about the Cashman/Kenny family who
both lived in the area.

I am working on my family history and have found information on the
census but would like to know more about schools the family possibly
went to etc.,

Many thanks, any information would be most gratefully received.

Emma McFall (nee Young)

Answer sent on Monday 31st October  2005:

Emma,

The records for St Alban's RC church are held at the Liverpool Record Office (LVRO):

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

Here is their Email address: 

recoffice.central.library?liverpool.gov.uk

For pictures of the church, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/churches/rcpic.htm

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

Before you contact the LVRO, you might want to look the marriage here:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/mar/mar.htm

Also check out my Liverpool Area RC Cemetery Search Service:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/rccem.htm

Regards,

Patrick


From: evason
Date: 31-Oct-2005 17:23
Subject: look up please
 
Hi Pat
I wonder if you could do a look up for me on a John Joseph Moore who died in September? 1958.
As far as I know he lived with his daughter at 141 Earl Rd, L15. I have been told that he was buried with his wife Mary Moore nee Kinsley in Yew tree Cemetery.
Many thanks for your help.
Kind regards Joannie

Answer sent on Monday 31st October  2005:

Jonnie,

Here are the details from the Plot Records for Yew Tree Cemetery:

Yew Tree Cemetery
Section: 1B
Plot: 250
Plot Owner: Monica Hanson - 144A Earle Road, Liverpool L7

John Joseph Moore
144A Earle Road, Liverpool L7
Age: 69 years
Interred: 28/11/1958

There is no one else in the plot according to the records I have that were compiled in 1989.

Here is a plan of Yew Tree Cemetery:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/bur/yewcem.htm

If you can't get to the Cemetery, my son (Jonathan) could check for a headstone for you.
He charges 2.50 to email pictures of any headstone found.
Or 4.00 to post an A4 picture of a headstone.
No charge if no headstone found.

He accepts payment via :

1. Pound Sterling cheques/checks
2. PayPal (credit card): https://www.paypal.com

Here is his email address:  liverpoolpictures?gmail.com

For information about RC/Irish research in Liverpool see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/records.htm

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a small donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Regards,

Patrick


From: evason
Date: 31-Oct-2005 23:41
Subject: Re: Re: look up please
 
Thank you Pat
Wonder if you could do another look up for me Mary Catherine Moore nee Kinsley think she died in 1935? Maybe she is buried with her parent's father do not know his first name mother's name Margaret Kinsley born in Ireland. Sorry do not know where they lived but think it may have been Aneley Street do not know if that is the right spelling that would be L'pool 7. Thank you for you help will make a donation to your charity. Will get in touch with your son if I can not make it to the cemetery.
Kind regards Joannie

Answer sent on Tuesday 1st November  2005:

Joannie,

Thank you for any donation you make.

Here are the details from the Liver RC Burial Board Plot Records:

Yew Tree Cemetery
Section: 2A
Plot: 56
Plot Owner: Charles Kinsley

Margaret Kinsley
221 Alderson Road
Age: 53 years
Interred: 25/3/1920

Christopher Myles Kinsley
221 Alderson Road
Age: 60 years
Interred: 8/3/1921

Charles William Kinsley
Fazakerley Sanatorium, Liverpool L10
Age: 32 years
Interred: 8/3/1922

Charles William Kinsley
18 Picton Lane (Liverpool Workhouse L3)
Age: 4 years
Interred: 11/5/1925

John Joseph Kinsley
126 Smithdown Road, Liverpool L15 (Hospital)
Age: 5 years
Interred: 11/5/1925

Hannah Kinsley
12 Bagot Street
Age: 78 years
Interred: 2/12/1942

Mary Moore
144A Earle Road, Liverpool L7
Age: 59 years
Interred: 26/1/1948

If the information I have supplied is of help to you, please make a donation to charity of your choice/CAFOD or Caritas via:

(online or by phone)

UK - http://www.cafod.org.uk/donate/

Regards,

Patrick

 

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