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-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: September 4, 2000 2:04 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]; Marc Thompson; Lisa Betts; Rachel Houk; Kay Gass
Subject: William Anderson Deed
Hi All,
I submit the following for your review.  I have another deed that conveys Susanna (Williams) Antes 1/3 portion of the inherited land to William Anderson, Sr.  It was recorded on the same date.
 
 
 
(Source: Northumberland County Register and Recorder)
 
    (William Williams Deed to William Anderson)  Recorded October 24, 1798.  Grantor: William Williams of Ontario County, State of New York, heir to Charles Williams.  Grantee: William Anderson of Mahantango Township, Northumberland County, State of Pennsylvania.  Land described as follows: Beginning at a swamp oak, thence by vacant land north one-hundred and twenty four perches to a white oak, thence east fifty-three perches to a hickory, thence by hills south forty-five degrees east one-hundred and twenty six perches to a white oak, thence south forty-five, thence south forty-five degrees west ninety perches to a white oak, thence to the place of beginning north seventy degrees west eighty-four perches.  Containing in the whole eighty six acres and sixty two perches and allowance.  Which was granted by the late proprietors of Pennsylvania by their warrent dated fifth day of March, A.D 1755 unto the said Charles Williams. And he being so siezed and possessed thereof died intestate leaving issue two children viz the said William Williams(the only son) and Susanna his daughter whom the estate real and personal of their said deceased father decended and came to as heirs at law, he the said William Williams taking two shares by law , he being the eldest son.  Now this indenture witnesseth that he the said William Williams for and in consideration of the sum of fifty seven pounds six shillings and eight pence in specie to him in hand well and truly paid by the said William Anderson at and before the sealing and delivery thereof, the receipt and payment thereof is hereby acknowledged, Hath granted bargained sold and confirmed, and by these presents, Doth grant bargain & sell release & confirm onto him the said William Anderson his heirs & assigns, All his the said William Williams part & parts, share & shares, purparty and purparties Whatsoever of into and out of the said undevided equal two third part of the said above mentioned tract of eighty six acres and sixty two perches of land and allowance.  Together with all singular his share parts o in & to the ways waters, watercources, wood, trees, liberties, priviledges, advantages, hereditaments & appurtenances.  Whatsoever thereto belonging or in any wise appertaining  and the reversion &  remainders rents issues & profits thereof, To have and to hold the said parts, shares and purparts Estate and Interest of him the said William Williams of into and out of the said land Hereditaments & premises hereby granted and released, or intended so to be with the rights Members & appurtenances unto the said William Anderson his heirs and assigns To the only proper use & behoof of him the said William Anderson his heirs & assigns forever.  And the said William Williams  for himself his heirs doth covenant grant & agree to and with the said William Anderson his heirs and assigns that he the said William Williams Ecors Admors the said above described undevided two thirds of the aforesaid Tract of land hereditments & premises with the appurtenances, Against him the said William Williams & his heirs, And against all and every other person or persons lawfully claiming or to claim the same by from or under him them or any of them shall & will Warrent & forever defend by these presents.  In witness whereof the parties to these presents have hereunto set their hands & seals the day & year first above Written;  William Williams(Seal)  Sealed and delivered in the presence of us Catherine Snyder, Simon Snyder, Jr.  Received on the day of the date of the above Instrument of the above named William Anderson the sum of fifty seven pounds six shillings and eight pense being the Consideration Money above Mentioned in full; by me, william Williams.  Witness present Catharine Snyder, Simon Snyder, "Jun."__Northumberland Co'ty, Pa.  On the twenty fourth day of October A.D. 1798 Came before me the Subscriber one of the Justices of the Peace for the county aforesaid William Williams & acknowledged the within written Instrument of Writing as and for his Act & deed, and desired that the same might be recorded as Such According to law;__  In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal the day & year aforesaid___Simon Snyder jun'r (Seal)                                                                     Recorded the 8th day of April 1799  Jer'h Simpson Rec.   
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: June 21, 2000 10:47 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]; Marc Thompson; Lisa Betts; Rachel Houk; Kay Gass
Subject: Elizabeth Anderson Rau
Hi Folks,
 
Here is a photo of Elizabeth Anderson Rau's tombstone at the Salem Lutheran(Row's) Cemetary, Salem, PA.  The inscription is in German and reads as follows:
 
ELIZABETH
Weib von
John Rau
Grb Nov. 16, 1777
Starb
Nov. 27, 1856(Not visible above ground)
 
Will follow this with John Rau's tombstone and info.
Hope you all are well.
 
Best regards,
Bob Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: June 21, 2000 10:54 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]; Marc Thompson; Lisa Betts; Rachel Houk; Kay Gass
Subject: John Rau
This is John Rau's tombstone in the Salem Lutheran(Row's) Church cemetary, Salem, PA.  The inscription is in German and reads as follows:
 
Hier ruhet
John Rau
Geb Aug 15, 1777
Starb Nov 30, 1855
Alt 78 y 3m 15t
 
Let me know if you have any questions or comments.
 
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: June 9, 2000 12:07 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]; Marc Thompson; Lisa Betts; Rachel Houk; Kay Gass
Subject: Petition Of John Anderson & Return of Sale
Hi Everyone,
 
I've been out of touch for a while due to my wife's illness and a computer virus (Chernobyl) which fried my hard drive.  Don't worry you can't catch it.  I junked the old computer and now in operation with a new HP533mhz with a CD writer.  I started scanning the Orphan's Court documents on the real estate of William Anderson.  Attached is the first two in the series; Petition of John Anderson for Inquisition, and Return of Sale.  Actually, these are documents #1 and #4 in the sequence by date, but were on the same microfische at the courthouse.  If you don't have the capability to separate them, I can resend them as individual files.  Also, as you can see, some of the words at the right and left edge were cropped during the microfilming process.  I saw photocopies of the original documents, and was able to identify most of the missing or incomplete words. I plan to prepare a full transcription later which I will be happy to share with you, but I thought you would like to see the originals first.  Let me know if you have any questions or comments.
 
Best regards,
Bob
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: May 19, 2000 12:27 AM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Cc: Marc Thompson; Lisa Betts; Rachel Houk; Kay Gass
Subject: Re: William Anderson, Sr.
Hi Jim, Marc,Lisa, Rachel & Kay;
 
In reply to Jim's questions:
 
1) William Sr. definitely died without leaving a will, or intestate.
 
2) John Anderson who petitioned the Orphan's Court of Union County for inquest on the real estate of William Sr. was the son of William Jr. and Catherine Arnold.  It is so stated in his petition.
 
3)The eight documents I have were found in the Prothonatary's Office in the Union County Courthouse, Lewisburg.  They are both on microfilm and bound in the Orphan's Court Record Books located inside the vault.  I made copies from the microfilm machine, then looked at the larger documents in the record books to decipher words that were unreadable or missing at the edge of the microfilm.
 
4) The 75 or 100 acres of cleared land reference is exactly how it was stated in the petition.  It must have been a wild guess made by John at the time.
 
5)The property map I have is an actual draft land survey map which indicates all compass bearings for boundry lines and the adjoining property owners at the time(21Oct1799) of the original survey. The land warrent was issued 08Apr1795.  It is MS-6 contained in the Snyder Co., PA Land Surveys Name Index.  The original map(may be duplicate) is located in the library of the Snyder Co. Historical Society, Middleburg, PA.  I am going to check at the Northumberland Co. courthouse for more info on the original land warrent as the issue date would indicate.  The map indicates a spring and a stream the crosses the property.  The stream is not named.
 
6)As to the exact location of the property, my best guess at this time is about 2 miles west of the town of Port Trevorton, PA 17864.  The oldest map of Chapman Twp. that I have is dated 1868.  There is a Jacob Sechrist home and "land of J. Sechrist heirs" indicated thereon about 1 mile west of the Witmer's Church and Zion U.B. Church.  Also nearby is the Geo. Gaugler property which is one of the neighbors shown on William's survey map.  As you know, Jacob Sechrist purchased William's property at public sale.       
 
7)So far I have had no success locating a deed in the name of Jacob Sechrist for the same property.  I have checked at both Snyder and Union County Register & Recorder Offices.  Maybe he couldn't get a clear deed because of John's problems with the Ohio heirs.  I could find no evidence John showed up for the Feb1851 term of the Orphan's Court as commanded in the 10Jan1851 citation.  If he settled the accounts there must be a paper trail somewhere.  I am going to look for a Jacob Sechrist will that may provide me with another name in the string of ownership.  Anyone have any other suggestions?
 
That's all for now.
 
Bob Anderson
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: May 15, 2000 11:28 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Cc: Marc Thompson; Lisa Betts; Rachel Houk; Kay Gass
Subject: AnnaMariaHerrold
Hi All,
 
I got some photos back today that I took in early March.  I thought you would like this one of Anna Maria's gravestone.  The inscription reads as follows:
   
              Hier ruhet
      in dem herrn Jesu Christi
      Annamaria Arnold ehefrau von Casper
      Arnold.  Sie ist gebohren den 27 December
      in yhr 1752, Starb den 26 April
      1820.  ist alt geworden 68 yahe 8 monat
       und 29 tag.
       Friede und ruhe seg mit Ihrer asche
 
There is a plain stone next to Anna Maria's which I assume marks the location of Casper Arnold's grave.  It contains no inscription.  The original must have been destroyed.  I also have photos of the gravestones of Abraham/Kesiah/Ella Gaugler, Casper Arnold Jr., Mary Puff, and the St. John's United Methodist Church at Chapman.  Any or all are available upon request. 
 
I came upon a few interesting facts about William Anderson Sr. since our last e-mail contact. 
He died intestate.
He owned 225 acres of land in Chapman Twp. with a one story log house and a log barn, also a good orchard, and spring of water, and about seventy-five or one hundred acres of cleared land with appurtenances, adjoining lands of Peter Shaffer, John Herold, John Boyer and Gaugler's heirs.
His son Jacob was alive and living in Union County in 1840,according to court papers filed by his grandson John. Evidently, Charles Fisher was mistaken in his Snyder County Pioneers where he stated that Jacob Anderson, the innkeeper from Selinsgrove who died circa 1800, was the son of William Sr.
Grandson John petitioned the court 17Feb1840 for Inquest on the real estate of William Anderson, deceased.
Return of Inquisition to the Real Estate was made on 21May1840.  Heirs and representatives were ordered to appear by first day of next term to take a sixth of valuation.
Petition of John Anderson for order of sale was dated 16Sep1840.  Bond set at $2000.  Bond given and order executed on 17Sep1840.
Bid price of $1497 by Jacob Sechrist of Chapman Twp. confirmed by court on 14Dec1840.
Heirs of William Anderson dec'd(Andrew and Sally Mildower, George and Margaret Spangle) petition court on 14Nov1842 for a citation and attachment against John Anderson for failure to exhibit any account of  proceedings of the sale.
Attachment executed by court 10Jan1843.
Jacob Sechrist petitioned court to issue citation to John Anderson to settle account of sale of real estate in office of register 26Dec1850.
Court issues citation to John Anderson on 10Jan1851 and commands him to appear in Orphan's Court  and to settle account in the office of Register at least 30 days before court session. 
Citation served on John Anderson by sheriff on 21Jan1851.
 
Looks like we may have an old family scandle here.  I have copies of the eight original Orphan's Court documents to back up all the above.  Also have a map of William's property.  I am working on tracing deeds to present day owner, that is if Jacob Sechrist ever got a deed.  Any suggestions or questions?
 
Best regards,
Bob Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 29, 2000 9:49 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Cc: Marc Thompson; Lisa Betts
Subject: New Mystery for You
Hi Jim(Marc & Lisa);
Today I went to the FHS/LDS and the Northumberland Co. courthouse. I have
38 pages of info on the Arnolds and Herrolds to fill in the gaps and add
more facts, plus lots of history stories to share.
Jim: George Arnold Sr./Mary Elizabeth Strayer's children were: Elizabeth,
Henry, George Jr., John S., Catherine, Magdalene, Mary, Benjamin and
Samuel.
I think John S. was the son who inherited the farm as he is not listed with
the other children in George's will. Why he is referred to as "Jacob" in
the will puzzles me. Charles Fisher in "Snyder Co. Pioneers" also does not
list a son Jacob.
The subject reference to a mystery lies in what I found at the
Northumberland courthouse. The index to wills lists a William Anderson from
Buffalo Township with letters filed Nov. 7, 1805 with James H. Anderson
listed as administrator. Buffalo Township is now in Union County, not far
from where I live. This couldn't be either of our Williams. Maybe he is
the other William referred to in Fisher's book as William Jr. who also
served in the Lancaster Co. Militia. Where he came from and who his
offspring were is the mystery. I came across another reference to him in
the Annals of Buffalo Valley, pg 244 and 299, where he is listed as a
resident of Buffalo Township in 1787, and East Buffalo township in 1796. I
think this is "just another Anderson" with no connection to our line. What
do you think? He was the only William in the North'd courthouse records.
I was flabbergasted today to see the Northumberland Co.
courthouse operation. Can you believe they are still handling original
documents? Fred Reed, the manager, retrieved the letters for William, from
a steel box 10' up the wall, with a pole. I didn't have time to go down
into their basement dungeon to view the lists of property, etc. I may get a
chance to do that later as I want to look up Jacob Anderson's letters of
admin. that are also there. Handling those old documents made me nervous,
as they were folded, and very fragile. It looked to me like document
preservation isn't high on their priority list.
If anyone has any questions or comments, send them back.
Bob Anderson
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 27, 2000 10:12 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Cc: Marc Thompson; Lisa Betts
Subject: Re: more info/revised dates
FW: more info/revised datesHi Jim;
I'll be going to Northumberland Co. on 3/29 to view film I ordered from the
Church of LDS. I will swing by the courthouse and see if a William
Anderson, Sr. will is on file there. Today I was at the Union Co.
courthouse and viewed the George Arnold, Sr will and Rebecca Anderson's
letters of administration. John Anderson(I assume her grandson) was listed
as administrator, with some personal property going to Jacob Anderson(I
assume another grandson). The letters were dated 17May1839 which at least
establishes the year of death. Or am I assuming too much? I am going back
later this week to look at other Anderson letters of administration, so if
you want me to look for something specific, let me know. George Arnold's
will left 140 acre plantation and sawmill to his son Jacob provided he cared
for George's widow. The remaining 8 children split $1400 share- and- share-
alike parceled out so that each child received his $175 share over a 16 year
period. His primary heir surprised me, as up until today I found no record
of a son Jacob. I thought Henry was his eldest son. But that's the fun part
of genealogy...the surprises. I should have the full history of the Arnolds
by this weekend. I'll bet Lisa already knows about Jacob. Jim and Lisa,
let me know if you want a copy of the 1999 compilation of the Zion United
Brethren Cemetary gravesites. The one listed on the Snyder County
Historical Society webpage only covers about half of the actual number
there.
Best regards,
Bob Anderson
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Betts [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 28, 2000 7:24 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: Re: Yee-Ha
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Anderson <mailto:[email protected]>
To: 'Betts' <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: Yee-Ha
Hi Lisa,
Happy to hear you have your Gedcom on Rootsweb, it works pretty slick & the backup of Gedcom is a real bonus.
1) In what County was William Sr. listed in 1820?
      Union county, Washington Twp.  page 108
2) In what county did you find Zach Sr & Jr., in 1808?
Zachariah in 1810 census
     Cumberland county,  Greenwood Twp which I think is now Perry County
3) I have been working with a few others & have made some progress on Spangle line.  If Zacharis Sr. is born abt. 1739, then I would think Mary (Polly) Anderson would have to be married to Zacharis Jr.
    I know it was not uncommon, but there seems to be a significant age difference.
Also that is what I found on the LDS site.  It also listed Zacharis Sr.'s children as well, when I did a search for Zacharis Spangle.
Actually there are at least three files on the Spangle line on the LDS site at <http://www.familysearch.org>
4) Patricia Seaver, provided me with all the data on the descendants of Jacob Spangle. (see below)
 
This is everything I have on the Spangle line, shown below.
wow. I had very little on the Spangles....only enough to try to help Esther Spangle. The last I knew she still didn't have a computer and was handicapped.
CONCLUSION:  Mary (Polly) Anderson would have to move up in the birth order. Does it fit in with your census findings?
 Oh, let me see...........(digging into the file)........
In 1800 - Cumberland Co, Greenwood Twp....Page 60  we have Zachariah Spangle with 3 males under 10 years old.....2 males 10-16......1 male 16-26  and 1 male 45+    followed by 1 female under 10.....1 female 10-16.....1 female 26-45
In 1810 - Cumb co, Greenwood twp...page 45  we have  Zachariah Spangle with 1 male under 10.... 1 male 10-16....2 males 16-26.....1 male 26-45 and 1 male 45+       followed by 1 female 16-26........and 1 female 45+
I think that's all I could find....Zachariah was not that common.  I just found the ones in the index, however, the indexes are very unreliable - I just didn't take the time to search the entire county (or the surrounding counties, considering Zach sr supposedly died in Dauphin county.).
Must go.........soon time for bed & I have much to do..................Lisa
 
REGARDS....JIM
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Betts [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 12, 2000 4:21 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: more info/revised dates
Hi, Jim!
I'm back again like a bad penny. I spent several hours at the library looking for census information to better estimate William Anderson, Sr's children's dates of birth. I had mixed results. I mostly couldn't find these people!!!!!! However, that did not deter me from refining some of the date ranges. I hope this makes sense.
William, Sr. b. 1740-1750 d. 1820-1830*
John b. Oct 19, 1774
Henry b. 1775-1784
Elizabeth b. Nov 16, 1777
William, Jr. b. 1778-1784 d. 1824-1830*
Rebecca b. 1780-1784
Sarah b. 1785-1794
Jacob b. 1791-1794
Polly b. 1791 - ?
*I know what Fisher's Probate & Administrations says, but it wouldn't be the first time someone was wrong. I have a book which says my Aurand relation married an Emerick widow based on a certain document - well, I found that document and all it does is grant the Aurand power-of-attorney to get money from her husband's estate for her since she had moved away.
William, Sr. in 1790 age over 16 3 males less than 16, 4 females
in 1800 age 45 + 1male under 10, 2 males 16-26
1 female under 10, 1 female under 16, 1 female 16-26, 1 female 45+
in 1810 age 45+ 1 male 16-26, 1 female 16-26, 1 female 45+
in 1820 age 45+ 1 female 45+ (Rebecca)
in 1830 William, Sr dead Rebecca age 80-90 living with Jacob
William, Sr born before 1755 (1800-45=1755)
Rebecca born 1740-1750 (1830-80=1750 1830-90=1740)
William, Jr. in 1810 age 26-44 so in 1800 he must have been 16-34,
but must have been one of the sons aged 16-25 sooo must have been born 1775-1784 (1800-16=1784 and 1800-25=1775).
In 1810 he had 2 children under 10 so must have been married less than 10 years but more than 3 years, therefore married between 1800-1807.
Wife Catherine Arnold was a widow in 1830, aged 40-50, but in 1810 she was aged
26-44 so subtracting 20 from her age in 1830 means in 1810 she would have been
20-30, but since the category started at 26, she must have been 26-30 in 1810 and
therefore born 1780-1784. In 1830 her youngest child was 5, so William, Jr must have
died between 1824-1830.
It is reasonable to assume that the husband and wife were close to the same ages, give or take a couple of years (its surprising how many wives were older than their husbands). Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that William, Sr was born 1740-1750 and William, Jr was born 1778-1784.
John - was born Oct. 19. 1774 which means he was 15 in 1790 - all the sons were under 16 so the census must have been conducted before October 19. He was in Canada by the 1800 census. He must have been the oldest son.
Henry - in 1790 was under 16
in 1800 he was 16-25, subtracting 10 years to go back to 1790, he was 6-15 yrs old and
therefore born 1775-1784.
Jacob - in 1800 was under 10
in 1810 he was 16-25
in 1820 I couldn't find him
in 1830 he was 30-40, backtracking to 1810 he would have been 10-20, but was at least 16 on that census, so must have been 16-20 in 1810, and 6-9 in 1800, therefore he must have been born 1791-1794.
Elizabeth was born Nov 16, 1777. I couldn't find the correct John Row - there were many of them.
Rebecca - I believe I found the correct George Spangler in 1800. She was 16-25, he was 26-44 and they had no children, so must have been recently married and before Elizabeth.
In 1830 she was 40-50, backtracking to 1800 would have made her 10-20 and since she
was in the 16-26 category, she must have been 16-20 in 1800 and born 1780-1784
Sarah - I couldn't find Andrew Mildower anywhere in PA, I did find an Andrew Mittawer, but they were 45+ in 1810 and couldn't possibly be the right ones. Unless she & her husband were living with his parents, in which case she would have been 16-25, making her born
1785-1794.
Polly - She must have married Zachariah Spangle, Jr. Zach, Sr. was far too old. The only thing
I have is that Zach, Jr was taxed in 1808 separately from his father and must have been on
his own, possibly married. I couldn't tell whether Sarah or Polly was the youngest, but one
of them was born after the 1790 census.
In answer to your most recent e-mail. The early US censuses were extremely frugal with information. Basically, they only listed numbers of persons under an age category, divided by sex. It wasn't until 1850 that individuals were named (other than the head of household) and places of birth and other information was added. Sometimes the microfilm is unreadable because its so faint. And of course, 1890 was destroyed in a fire. The census indexes are not reliable. I was trying to find a certain Lutz ancestor in Lancaster county, PA. Well, there are a ton of Lutzs, so I went through the county page by page and crossed off each one from the index as I found him. I found 1 Lutz unlisted for every 8 listed. I finally found my ancestor living near a family with his wife's maiden name. If I hadn't known that, I'd still be looking. Anyway, we can try the will & land record route and hope they survived. I've heard a lot of Northumberland's records were destroyed in various floods. The court house is located about 1 block from the Susquehanna River, and they keep the records in the basement. I've been there....it's like a dungeon. That will have to be a day trip for me sometime, its 1.5-2.0 hour drive away. I wonder if Bob Anderson would be interested. He's closer than I am..
Take care................................Lisa
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 10, 2000 3:05 PM
To: Marc Thompson; Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]; Lisa Betts
Subject: Casper Arnold's Family
NOTE CORRECTIONS UNDERLINED RECEIVED IN SEPARATE EMAIL.
Marc,Jim,Lisa:
The following I compiled from Grubb's Church burial records on site this
week. Maybe a few will be new to you.
Casper Arnold, Sr. m. Anna Maria Herrold,b.27Dec1752, d.26Apr1820
- Son George Sr., b.09Aug1773, d.11Mar1848; m. Maria E. Strayer,
b.07Feb1775,d.23May1857(Father: Andrew)
Children:
1. Elizabeth b.24Feb1799, d.04Apr1878
2. Henry Sr. b.19Sep1800, d.17Oct1878, m.Anna
Brugger b.03Nov1802, d.15Aug1873
Children: John R.,b.18Sep1832, d.21Mar1839
Henry Jr., b.23Dec1833, d.09Aug1835
3. George Jr., b.03May1803,d.02Dec1865, m.Mary,
b. 03May1809, d.12Apr1880
4. John S., b.28Nov1808, d.18Feb1857, m. Elizabeth,
b.06Mar1809, d.14Nov1856
- Son Casper Arnold Jr., b.01May1787,
d.09Dec1859, m. Mary A. Puff(Father: Phillip),
b.08Aug1788, d.26Feb1861
Children:
1. Susannah, b. 12Jan1817, d. 21Mar1862
2. Peter, b. 30Aug1822, d. 05Sep1863(Co.A, 172 PVI)
3. Joseph P., b. 26Dec1834, d. 02Apr1866, m. Mary Ann Fisher
Bob Anderson
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas E. Finsterbush [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 10, 2000 11:01 AM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: Re: Chapman Twp. Cemeteries
Jim,
At 09:43 AM 2/12/00 -0500, you wrote:
> Tom, I need your help/advice. & family is buried. William Sr.
>ANDERSON died in Chapman, PA. I searched all the Chapman PA Cemeteries on
>your web page, but no luck. & Hoover Mennonite. But I understand these
>are relatively new, so probably not applicable. Assuming that all
>cemeteries are listed on your web page, I am assuming that William Anderson
>is probably buried there somewhere, since he died in Chapman. Is there any
>other cemetery data that may include my any of the following: & died
>Chapman
>& wife Catherine Arnold - died Chapman
>& wife Janey - died Selinsgrove Any help greatly apprciated.
>
We had a nice day on Sunday and checked out St. John's United Methodist
Church Cemetery in the village of Chapman, along the Susquehanna River
south of Selinsgrove. We found there:
Elijah Anderson, d. Oct. 31, 1892; 72 y., 9 m., 16 d.
Catharine Anderson, w/o Elijah, d. Dec. 13, 1893; 76 y., 7 d.
James M. Anderson, April 6, 1854-Nov. 17, 1899.
Lucetta Anderson, [w/o James,] Dec. 25, 1854-Nov. 7, 1916.
We also met Bob Anderson of Lewisburg, PA, who coincidentally was
searching for Andersons. He confirms my reading of the above tombstones.
You may want to contact him at <[email protected]>
We checked out the cemetery at Aline, a village in neighboring Perry
Township and found:
Frank L. Anderson, April 3, 1861-May 3, 1921.
Suppora E. Anderson, w/o Frank, Nov. 14, 1858-Jan. 14, 1927.
I also looked for the Spanglers on your list, but couldn't find any of
them. We should check Grubb's Church Cemetery to be complete, but as your
people are all 19th century folks they should be in Wagenseller and aren't.
Also checked Row's Church and Selinsgrove without success.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Maybe Mr. Anderson of Lewisburg can
tell you more. He seemed eager to share his information.
Good luck,
Tom
 
 
Thomas E. Finsterbush
R.D. 1, Box 138, Penns Creek Road
Mifflinburg, PA 17844-9716
(570) 966-8726
[email protected]
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Betts [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 8, 2000 8:04 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: Anderson revisited again
Dear Jim,
    You are right, I did not get that last e-mail.  If we keep this up, we just may come to an agreement - horrors! 
   Do you have copies of the census reports?  I keep referring to them assuming that you have them.  Let me know if you don't.
 
I think we'll have to find a copy of the Anderson wills to determine any order of children, however I don't think we should put a lot of faith in that order.  I have just come to the conclusion that Jacob, not Henry was the youngest son.  On the 1830 census for Chapman twp, Union Co page 317 we have Jacob Anderson age category 30-40 making him born between 1790-1800.  He has a female in his household aged 80-90.  Assuming this is his mother,  William sr's widow, Jacob must be the youngest son.
 
The best I am comfortable with for now is:             age on 1800 census:     estimate of birth date:
 
John               b. Oct 19, 1774                                      in Canada               1774
William Jr.       b. 1775-1784                                            16-25                   1776 (early)
Elizabeth        b. Nov 16, 1777                                      married?                  1777
Henry             b. 1775-1784                                             16-25                    1784
Jacob             b. 1790-1800                                              under 10               1790 after census
Rebecca         b. 1775-1784                                              16-25                    1782
Sarah             b. 1785-1790                                               10-15                   1787
Polly              b. 1790-1800                                               under 10               1792
 
(I had to use the order in the Probate records for the last 3 daughters, I have no idea in what order they were born - Rebecca may have been older that William jr.)  There are a lot of variables - the last 2 children might have been twins for all we know.
 
I'm going to have to look for more census records.  It irritates me that I can't find William jr in 1820.  There are too many William Andersons and the ones I've found in various townships & counties just don't seem to match.  He may have been in another state or visiting his brothers in Canada. Who knows!
 
Enough for now.............................Lisa
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Betts [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: February 21, 2000 7:35 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: Direct descendants
Dear Jim,
Apparently my program won't let me do a direct descendant drop to
save to a file to send, sooooooo I'll do it the long way.
ANDERSON FAMILY
1. Anderson, William Sr. b. BEF 1755 d. 1839
---Unknown, Rebecca d. 1839
2. Anderson, William Jr. b. BEF 1784 d. BEF 1830
---Arnold, Catharine b. BEF 1784
3. Anderson, Elijah b. 15 Jan 1820 d. 31 Oct 1892
---Bordner, Catherine b. 1820 m. ABT 1843 d. 13 Dec 1893
4. Anderson, Kathryn Mahala b. 13 Dec 1859 m. 11 Jun1882 d. 5 Apr 1918
---Aurand, Jonas b. 31 Jan 1854 d. 20 Mar 1928
5. Aurand, Omer R. b. 31 Oct 1893 m. 25 Dec.1919 d. May 1983
---Walker, Martha b. 07 Aug 1900 d. 20 Jan 1969
6. Aurand, Virginia b. 23 Oct 1920 m. 09 Nov 1947
---Wright, Arthur b. 13 Aug 1920
7. Wright, Lisa b. 1949 m. 27 May 1972
---Betts, Richard b. 1949
We're all born & bred Pennsylvanians. Since we're of the same
generation, I guess we're fifth cousins.
I'm not so sure about William Anderson, Sr. being in Leacock twp. I was
looking at tax records for Leacock Twp, Lancaster co. and I didn't see
any William Andersons. There is/was a Breaknock twp. (sound-alike), but
I don't have any notes that I looked there. Here's a copy of what I
sent to Marc Thompson:
I don't know if this will help, but once over at the State Archives I
jotted this down:
Andersons in Leacock twp, Lancaster co
1758-59 Robert (blacksmith), Rodger (storekeeper) and James
(plowmaker)
1770 Robert (blacksmith) and John (no trade)
1775 Robert
1777 John (carpenter), Robert (farmer) and Roger (renter)
1779 Roger and Margaret
1780 None
1782, 1785 Rodger
1792 None
1801 Robert
We'll crack this nut yet...............Lisa
 
 
ANALYSIS OF PROBATE OF WILLIAM SR. ANDERSON
Children & Granchildren Of William Sr. Anderson:
I believe that the list of Children listed in the probate is actually a mix of William Sr., William Jr. & John's Children as follows:
There are a total of 14 Cildren + Granchildren
I believe there of these 15 Anderson's listed, 8 total that fit as William Sr's Children
I believe that of these 15, Anderson's listed, 6 total fit as William Jr.'s Children
A) Willaim Sr. & Rebecca Children:
1) William Jr. (Catherine Arnold) (b.Abt. 1773)
2) John - living in Canada (wife Susannah) (b. October 19, 1774)
3) Elizabeth (Mrs John Row) (b. November 16, 1777)
4) Jacob (b. Abt. 1778)
5) Henry - living in Canada (b. Abt. 1779)
6) Rebecca (George Spangle/r) (b. Abt. 1780)
7) Sarah (Mrs Andrew Mildower) (b. Abt. 1781)
8) Polly - (Mrs Zach. SPANGLE or SPANGLER). (b. Abt. 1782)
B) William Jr. & Catherine Arnold Children:
Surviving children:
1) George of Franklin Co., PA (b. abt 1808)
2) John (b. June 9, 1810, wife Mary Neitz)
3) Peter of Seneca Co., NY (b. Abt. 1812)
4) Samuel of Manchester, Ohio (b. Abt. 1814)
5) Polly - under 21 in 1840 (b. before 1821) (b. Abt. 1818)
6) Elijah - under 21 (therfore is b. before 1821) (b. January 15, 1820)
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: elida [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: February 23, 2000 7:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] will indices?
PROBATE AND ORPHAN COURT RECORDS OF SNYDER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA compiled by
Charles A. Fisher, pub. Selingsgrove, PA 1940. This book has:
Orphan Court Records, February Term - 1840
ANDERSON, William - Chapman Twp., died about 1832, wife Rebecca, ante 1840.
Their son, William, married Catherine, dau. of Casper ARNOLD, Sr.
Surviving children:
John
George of Franklin Co., PA
Peter of Seneca Co., NY
Samuel of Manchester, Ohio (*Note, I found Manchester is in Adams, Co., OH)
Polly - under 21
Elijah - under 21
John - living in Canada
Elizabeth (Mrs. John ROW)
Jacob
Henry - in Canada
Rebecca - (Mrs. George SPANGLER of Seneca, Ohio)
Sarah - (Mrs. Andrew MILDOWER of Ohio)
Polly - (Mrs Zach. SPANGLE or SPANGLER).
Orphan's Court Record:
5/16/1825 - George GAUGLER, Jr. - Chapman Twp., wife - Magdelene, children:
John, over 14, and Sally, Elizabeth, Christina, Abe, George, Molly - all
under 14.
Snyder County Wills:
4/15/1826 - Elizabeth KELLY - Perry County, maiden name MARTIN. Left
daughter Polly REICHENBACH.
There are about 9 SHAFFER families listed plus others with same surnames you
have identified as lines of your research.
Elida in SC
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: February 14, 2000 9:17 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: My Descendent Chart
Hi Jim..........Following is my Direct Descendent Chart:
1. William Sr. Anderson b: abt 1749 , d: 22Feb1832
    2. William Jr. Anderson b:abt 1775 Lancaster,Pa, d: abt 1840,
        married Catherine Arnold.                
        3. Elijah Anderson b: 15Jan1820, d:31Oct1892, married
            Catherine Bordner 08Apr1843.
             3. James M. Anderson b: 6Apr1854, d:17Nov1899, married
                 Lucetta Gaugler.
                 4. William Maurice Anderson, b:11Jan1880, d:12May1969,
                      married Emma Louise Keefer 16Jul1902
                      5. David George Anderson, b: 09Dec1916, d: 09Jun1975,
                          married Helen Jeanette McFall 27Feb1937
                           6. Robert Morris Anderson, b: 19Apr1937, married
                               Nancy Carrol Kratzer 01Feb1958.
 
The geneology program I am using is packaged with the website www.myfamily.com <http://www.myfamily.com>.
 
I understand that William Anderson Sr. died in Chapman Township, Snyder County
PA.  I will do some checking to locate his burial site for you.
I will visit your web page sometime this week.  Right now I'm involved in a major plumbing project which must be completed first.
Bob
 
REFERENCE DOCUMENT: (See my Correspondence file#55, from Rachel Houk)
929.1748, F531eV1
ANDERSON
"WILLIAM ANDERSON, tanner, lived in Leacock Twp., Lancaster Co., PA, in1771 and this man, or another of the same name appeared in what is now Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., PA, prior to 1778, and died there about 1832. He served in the Northumberland County Militia during the Revolutionary War. He was a farmer and was taxed with 50 acres of land. In the U.S. Census of 1790, his family consisted of 1 male over, and 3 under 16 years of age, and four females.
WILLIAM ANDERSON (died in Chapman Twp., Snyder Co. Pa., about 1832)
m. Rebecca-------(died in Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., Pa., abouit 1838)
a WILLIAM ANDERSON, JR. (died in Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., PA before 18??)
m. Catherine Arnold, d/o Casper Arnold, Sr.
b John Anderson
b George Anderson Lived in Franklin Co. Pa. Around 1840
b Peter Anderson " " Senecca Co., New York " "
b Samuel Anderson " " Manchester, Ohio in 1840
b Polly (Mary) Anderson, Under 21 in 1840
b Elijah Anderson (1/15/1820-10/31/1892) Civil War Vetern
m. Catherine Bordner (12/6/1817-12/13/1893), on8/8/1843
a John Anderson Lived in Canada in 1840
a Elizabeth Anderson
` m. John Row (died in Penn Twp., Snyder Co., Pa. In 1855)
b Jacob Row, George, John, Henery, Peter, Benjamin
b Daniel Row, m. Anna Kitter
c Amanda Row (1/20/1847) m. ----White, Bristol, Ind
d Dr. Milo Ritter White
d Mabel White m. F.O. Halstead, Bristol Ind
a Jacob Anderson (died Selinsgrove, Pa. 1800) Tavernkeeper
m. Janey -----
b Susan Anderson, Elizabeth Anderson
a Henry Anderson Lived in Canada, in 1840
a Rebecca Anderson Lived, Seneca Co. Ohio, inn 1840
m. George Spangler
a Sarah Anderson Lived in Ohio, in 1840
m. Andrew Mildower
a Mary(Polly) Anderson m. Zachariah Spangle (or Spangler)
 
COURT NOTES George W. Anderson died in Snyder Co., Pa. In 1886, and Emanual Sanders was the administrator of his estate. He may have been George, son of William Jr., above."
 
 
REFERENCE DOCUMENT - FEBRUARY TERM 184, Page 68:
William (Sr.) Anderson, died about 1832, and Rebecca his wife, ante 1840. Their son Wm., married Catherine dau. of Casper Arnold Sr..
William----dead (he left John, George of Franklin Co. Pa., Peter of Seneca Ao., N.Y., Samuel of Manchester, O., Polly and Elijah, the last two under 21) John (living in Canada), Elizabeth (Mrs John Row), Jacob, Henry (in Canada), Rebecca (Mrs. George Spangler of Seneca Co., Ohio), Sarah (Mrs. Andrew Mildower of Ohio), Polly (Mrs. Zach. Spangle, or Spangler)"
 
 
From E. Spangle, to Jim Anderson, Apr. 8, 1999 In Letter:
"SNYDER COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY VOL 1 page 300
William ANDERSON lived in Penn Township 1781-87. Private in Thomas Gaskin's Company and in Capt. James McMahan's Company of Rangers on the Frontier for Northunberland County, Penn. Arch, 3rd series, Vol 23, p. 250 Pensioner living in Pennsylvania, 1825; Pa 2nd series, Vol 25, p. 710. Snyder County Annals Vol. 1, p.15."
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Maurice Mitchell [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 24, 1999 9:27 AM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0M25:EXCH]
Subject: RE: Anderson/Spangler
Hi Jim,
I am at work and my info is at home but will try to answer your questions
as best I can. I have viewed a lot of the records from there via the
Morman churches microfilm. Some where in the vital statistics I found a
marriage of George Mitchell to Eliza Anderson on October 24, 1817. While I
cannot tie this directly to George and Elizabeth Mitchell of census record
they first listed as a couple in 1820 and onward to 1880 when they would
have both been around 86 years old. My Gr-Grandfather, George Mitchell,
their son, left PA in 1871 with his wife Elizabeth (Spangler) and three
children one of which was my Grandfather Ed Mitchell. They settled in
Eastern Kansas and remained on the same farm until Ed Mitchell and his wife
Elizabeth (Bailey) died around 1945. I have never been able to tie Eliza
(I am guessing short for Elizabeth) to any Anderson although I have found
some in the censuses. I felt that maybe you had some information on them.
As you can see, things get complicated with 5 generations having 4 Georges
and 4 Elizabeths. I don't know how they kept each other straight.
I hope you will keep in touch and if I should come across anything, I'll
forward it to you.
Maurice
 
 
Ancestors of Mark Allen and Kevin Stirling Kimmel:
The following data on Casper Arnold family was obtained from the web at the following web site address.
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/m/Dayann-L-Kimmel/GENE1-0013.html
304. Casper Arnold, born June 07, 1747 in Susquehanna Twp., Berks Co., PA?. He was the son of 608. George Arnold and 609. ?. He married 305.
Anna Maria Herrold 1772 in Chapman, PA.
305. Anna Maria Herrold, born December 27, 1752 in Heidelberg Twp., Berks Co., PA; died April 26, 1820 in St. John's Cemetery, Chapman, PA.
She was the daughter of 610. John George Herrold and 611. Anna Maria Elizabeth Benesch.
More About Casper Arnold:
Fact 1: Christened St. John's (Hains) Reformed Church, Lower Heidelberg Twp., Berks Co.
Children of Casper Arnold and Anna Herrold are:
152 i. John Arnold, born Abt. 1775; died 1820; married Margaret Gaugler WFT
Est. 1790-1818.
ii. George Arnold, born August 09, 1773 in Chapman, PA; died March 11,
1848 in Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., PA5; married Maria Elizabeth
Strayer WFT Est. 1790-1823.
More About George Arnold:
Fact 1: Christened 1848
iii Caspar Arnold, born May 01, 1787 in Chapman, Chapman Twp., Snyder
Co., PA; died 1859; married Mary Ann Puff WFT Est. 1804-1836.
iv. Philip S. Arnold, born Bef. 1790; died Abt. November 28, 1842 in
Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., PA6; married Catherine ?.
v. Peter Arnold, born June 25, 1793 in Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., PA;
died 1873; married Margaret Fisher January 25, 1820 in Snyder Co.,
PA7.
vi. Catherine Arnold, born Bef. 1795 in Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., PA;
married William Anderson WFT Est. 1786-1829.
vii. Susanna Arnold, born WFT Est. 1770-1793; died WFT Est. 1786-1877;
married Jac. Rafter WFT Est. 1786-1809.
-----Original Message-----
From: John & Nancy Hendricks [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: February 14, 1999 11:16 AM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0M25:EXCH]
Subject: Re: SNYDER CO. - WILLIAM ANDERSON
Jim Anderson wrote:
> Hi John,
> My name is Jim Anderson & I am from Ontario, Canada.
> I noticed that you mentioned Mahantango Township, in your reply.
> I am working on the family of William ANDERSON wife Rebecca (unknown) & I
> have attached some info. on this family.
> Would you please check to see if this family is mentioned in your book, Dr.
> Charles Fischer's "The Snyder County Pioneer"
> THANK YOU....JIM
Jim,
On page 2 of "Snyder County Pioneers", Dr. Charles A. Fisher, the following:
"WILLIAM ANDERSON was a tanner, and a resident, but not a land owner in Leacock
Township, Lancaster County, PA., in 1771. He was assessed in Penn Township for the
first time in 1778 and at that time was taxed with 50 acres of land and personal
property. When Mahantango Township was formed from the lower part of Penn in 1796,
he was assessed there. William Anderson, Senior and William Anderson, Junior wered
in the 4th Company, 6th Battalion of the Lancaster Co., Militia, the former in the
6th class and the latter in the 2nd class. The compiler does not know which of
these two men came to what is now Snyder County. One of them received a pension
for having served in the Northumberland County Rangers during the Revolution. In
1778 he asked for tax exemption."
Regards,
John Shipman Hendricks
___________________________Researching:___________________________
Bogar-Campbell-Dunkelberger-Everett-Ferster-Fisher-Godschalck-Heim
Hendricks-Klingemann-Liebenguth-Lytle-McKinney-Minegar-Moll-Musser
Neese-Reitz-Reichelderfer-Sampsel-Shipman-Stetler-Wayne-Zettlemoyer
 
 
EMAIL:
Fri 15/01/99 12:11 AM
Rachel Houk [[email protected]]
Dear Jim,
I have watching the Northumberland list for almost a year but signed up
for the Snyder list not to long ago and now I am glad I did.
William Anderson Sr is my GGGG Grandfather I don't have much info on him
except he was in Leacock twp, PA in 1771 he was a tanner and he was in
Chapman twp prior to 1778 he died about 1832. he married Rebecca
there he was a farmer and was taxed with 50 acres of land 1790 census
his family of 1 male over and 3 under 16years of age and four females.
William Anderson Jr. m. Catherine Arnold
John Anderson lived in Canada in 1840
Elizabeth Anderson m. John Row
Jacob Anderson m. Janey
Henry Anderson Canada in 1840
Rebecca Anderson m. George Spangler lived inSeneca co. Ohio 1840
Sarah Anderson m. Andrew Mildower ? lived in Ohio 1840
Mary (Polly) Anderson m. ?Zachariah Spangle (spangler)
I just wanted to write and say Hello cousin as it looks like we are
related. William Anderson Jr and Sr have been our brick walls for a long
time.
I haven't gotten my info into the computer yet I guess I am just slow. I
will try to get more info together for you. I will also forward your
post to another cousin I found on the internet.
Til I hear from you Rachel [email protected]
 
 
EMAIL:
Thu 14/01/99 8:28 PM
Betts [[email protected]]
Hi,      You will probably hear from several Anderson cousins on this one.  William Anderson, Sr's parents and country of origin are still unknown.     From Esther F. Spangle     2321 South Orchid Drive        Sierra Vista, AZ 85635-6419      this information:  William Anderson, Sr.              b. Abt 1755              Leacock twp. Lancaster Co., PA                                                 d. Abt 1832              Union, PA  wife: Rebecca                           b. Abt     1751           PA                                                  d. May 17, 1839        Chapman twp., Union Co., PA  children:  William Anderson, Jr.                 b. Abt 1767             Lancaster, PA                                                    d. Before  1840     married  Catherine Arnold  John Anderson                       b. Abt 1768               Lancaster, PA  George Anderson                   b. Abt 1769               Lancaster, PA  Peter Anderson                      b. Abt 1771               Lancaster, PA  Samuel Anderson                   b. Abt.1772               Northumberland, PA  Elizabeth Anderson                b. Abt 1773                Northumberland, PA      married John Row  Jacob Anderson                     b. Abt 1774                Northumberland, PA  Henry Anderson                     b. Abt 1775                Northumberland, PA  Rebecca Anderson                 b. Abt. 1776               Northumberland, PA      married George Spangler  Sarah Anderson                      b. Abt. 1777               Northumberland, PA      married Andrew Mildower  Mary (Polly) Anderson           b. ABt 1778                Northumberland, PA      married Zacharias/Zachariah Spangle, Jr.  about 1801, Snyder Co., PA  Elijah Anderson                      b. Abt 1780                 Northumberland, PA
I don't think Esther Spangle has an e-mail address.
I have not been able to find a record of William Sr's death or tombstone.  I find fault with his date of birth of 1755 which would make him 12 years old when William Jr was born.  Not impossible, but highly unlikely.  From Probate and orphans Court Records of Snyder County by Charles A. Fisher:
William Anderson, died  about 1832, and Rebecca, his wife, ante 1840. Their son Wm., married Catherine dau. of Casper Arnold, Sr.      Chapman township (Snyder Co., PA)      Heirs:  William - dead (he left John, George of Franklin Co., PA, Peter of Seneca Co., NY, Samuel of Manchester, O., Polly and Elijah, the last two under 21), John (living in Canada), Elizabeth (Mrs. John Row), Jacob, Henry (in Canada), Rebecca (Mrs. George Spangler of Seneca Co., Ohio), Sarah (Mrs. Andrew Mildower of Ohio), Polly (Mrs. Zach. Spangle or Spangler).
I am a descendant of William Jr's son, Elijah.  I live in south central Pennsylvania.  Welcome, cousin.  Let me know if you have any questions/answers.
Lisa Betts                     [email protected]
 
 
EMAIL:
-----Original Message-----
From: Betts [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: January 19, 1999 6:44 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0M25:EXCH]
Subject: William Anderson
Hi Jim,
Yes, I got your message. I don't check my e-mail
everyday. I have other members of the family to fight with
for computer time, and since I go to bed around 8:00PM it
kinda limits my time to weekends.
I just spend several hours at a local university library
doing research. It has the US Census reports on microfilm
for Pennsylvania. I found that our William Anderson goes
back to the 1780's in Northumberland County (at least).
There were a ton of William Andersons in the census index,
but I'm keying in on the one near Casper Arnold since his
daughter Catherine married William Jr. At one point there
were 3 William Andersons (father, son and I suppose grandson
going by ages). Unfortunately, back that far there isn't
much to go on and you have to approximate ages. Are you
familiar with the Census reports?
William Sr and William Jr seemed to vanish in 1820,
then Widow Anderson appeared in Chapman township in 1830 which would have been Union County at that time. She was William Jr's widow (going by age and the fact that she was near Casper Arnold, her brother). I'm probably not making much sense to you right now.
To recap:
1810 Northumberland County, Mohantango Twp.
Anderson, William, Tanner age 45+
Anderson, William Jr. age between 26-45 but less than 45
Arnold(s), Casper, George & Philip
1810 Northumberland County, E. Buffalo Twp.
Anderson, James, Fur age under 26
Anderson, John, Cooper age under 26 apparently unmarried
Anderson, Andrew, Shoemaker age under 26 apparently unmarried
Anderson, William age under 26 apparently unmarried
1820 Census, no sign of William Anderson(s) in Northumberland or Union Counties. One or both may have been dead at that time or may have been living with a son. There was a John Anderson in Union Co, Buffalo twp and one in Union Co, Centre twp, but I didn't copy anything on them - sorry. I'll try to do it next time (whenever that is).
1830 Union County, Chapman Twp.
Anderson, Jacob age 30- under 40
Anderson, Widow age 40- under 50 with 3 sons and a daughter under 20.
(she was between 26 and under 45 in 1810, adding 20 years would put her between 46 and under 65 - so since she was in the 40- under 50 category in 1830, that would make her between 46 and under 50 in 1830 so that would place her birth between 1780 and 1784.)
Arnold(s), Philip jr, Philip, Casper, George Geroge jr.
Lets see, what else did I find? You must bear with me, I
was also looking up other family names.......
Early (tax) assessment records for Union and Northumberland counties (Mary Belle Lontz, compiler) have
William Anderson and Casper Arnold listed in Mohantango twp in 1807 and 1796.
Wills and Administrations (letters) for Northumberland
County (Charles A. Fisher, compiler) have letters of administration for Rebecca Anderson, deceased, Chapman twp. issued to John Anderson around 05/17/1839.
Uh oh .... this would seem to indicate that your John Anderson was not the same line. If I remember.. the next time I go to the library, I'll look up all the John Andersons around 1790 and 1800 to see where they were located in PA. Unfortunately, the wife's and children's names were not recorded until 1850 and after.
In the meantime, good luck with your researches.
Lisa
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Maurice Mitchell [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: March 13, 1999 1:34 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0M25:EXCH]
Subject: Anderson/Spangler
Hi Jim,
I'm not sure how much info I have communicated to you so far but the
Mitchel connection to the Anderson/Spangler group is as follow: On October
24, 1817, George Mitchell b.1794 married Eliza (Elizabeth) Anderson b.179?.
They lived in the Penn's creek area until about 1886. Their son George
b.1828 married Elizabeth (Elizebeth) Spangler b.1832. Their first child,
Mary Jane was born April 27, 1851 in Union Co. PA and I have no other
information on this child. In 1871 George and Elizabeth moved to KS with
Ed b.1853, William b.1856 and Harriet b.1858. After Elizabeth (Spangler)
died in 1892, George moved back to PA and married Mary (in 1897), the widow
of George C. Spangler. George Mitchell lived until 1914 and Mary lived
until 1911.
Some of my history references indicate that the Mitchel's and the
Spangler's may have lived as neighbors on Penn's creek and the Mitchel's
may have sold a mill to the Spangler's at one time.
Thanks for the information that you sent and if there is any way I can
help you, I will be glad to.
 
Maurice Mitchell
SORT OUT MITCHELL / SPANGLER / ANDERSON NAMES FROM ABOVE EMAIL:
On October 24, 1817, George Mitchell b.1794 married Eliza (Elizabeth) Anderson b.179?.
They lived in the Penn's creek area until about 1886.
Their son George Mitchell b.1828 married Elizabeth (Elizebeth) Spangler b.1832.
Their first child, Mary Jane Mitchell was born April 27, 1851 in Union Co. PA and I have no other
information on this child.
In 1871 George and Elizabeth moved to KS with
Ed b.1853,
William b.1856 and
Harriet b.1858.
After Elizabeth (Spangler) died in 1892, George Mitchell moved back to PA and married Mary (in 1897), the widow of George C. Spangler.
George Mitchell lived until 1914 and Mary lived until 1911.
Some of my history references indicate that the Mitchel's and the
Spangler's may have lived as neighbors on Penn's creek and the Mitchel's
may have sold a mill to the Spangler's at one time.
Thanks for the information that you sent and if there is any way I can
help you, I will be glad to.
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Long [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: August 10, 1999 7:25 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: Re: Snyder Co Marriages Lookup
Jim,
I recently returned from Ontario. We were fishing at Crotch lake, North of
Kingston.
The only Anderson's listed are Elias, who married Catherine Bordner on
8/8/1843.
And in the 1700's two Capt. James Anderson's who married Jane Tate (Rev.
Joseph), and Margaret Chambers; and William Anderson who married Jane Bell.
These 3 Individuals were from Lancaster Co.
Regards,
Terry
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 8:01 AM
To: 'wells'
Subject: RE: Elizabeth Anderson
 
ROW'S CEMETERY, PENN TOWNSHIP, PA:
I checked out the cemetery info. that is on-line at https://sites.rootsweb.com/~pasnyder/:
"Penn Township - Row's Cemetery, Salem,PA.
This burying ground is one of the oldest in Central Pennsylvania."
Yes indeed the data is there and a heck of alot of ROW's as you can see below.
Row, Elizabeth, w of John, b Nov 16, 1777, d Nov 27, 1856.
However there is no mention of John Row. Is he supposed to be buried in the same place??????
THANKYOU VERY MUCH....JIM ANDERSON
Row, M. ------- 1805.
Row, George, b 1723, kill by Ind. 1780.
Row, Emila M., d of George and H., d Apr 5, 1864, aged 2 y 5 m 16 d.
Row, Augusta T., s of George and H., d Apr 8, 1869, aged 9 y 6 m 30 d.
Row, Susan A., d of George and H., d Jan 5, 1870, aged 3 y 1 m 14 d.
Row, Katie, d of George and H., d Apr 26, 1888, aged 13 y 8 m 6 d.
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Row, Emma, d of George and H., d Apr 5, 1889, aged 24 y 8 m 24 d.
Row, Wallace J., s of George and H., d Mar 31, 1891, aged 21 y 7 m 3 d.
Row, George, d July 2, 1895, aged 69 y 8 m 28 d.
Row, Hannah, w of George, d May 9, 1896, aged 60 y 3 d.
Row, Mary M., w of Chas. J., d Nov 25, 1887, aged 32 y 2 m 27 d.
Row, Diana, w of Isaac, d June 13, 1892, aged 40 y 10 m 4 d.
Row, Saloma, w of Frank, d ----- 1901.
Row, Mazie, d of B.F. and Clara, d Feb 22, 1885, aged 2 y 1 m 18 d.
Row, Daniel J., s of George and M., b Apr 10, 1836; d Jan 3 1856.
Row, Henrietta, d of I. and M., d Dec 1, 1861, aged 9 m 7 d.
Row, Emma, d of Peter and L., b Dec 14, 1844; d Nov 17, 1865.
Row, Henry, b Sept 25, 1775; d Jan 31, 1859.
Row, Elizabeth, w of Henry, d Apr 9, 1849, aged 73 y 10 d.
Row, Abraham, s of P. and L., d Sept 29, 1846, aged 15 y 8 m 9 d.
Row, John, b July 15, 180l, d Dec 13, 1840.
Row, Henry, b May 1, 1789; d Mar 27, 1848.
Row, Elizabeth, w of John, b Nov 16, 1777, d Nov 27, 1856.
Row, Maria C., d of J. and C., d July 11, 1858, aged 3 m 25 d.
Row, Ella, d of J.W. and C., d Mar 18, 1854, aged 4 y 9 m 7 d.
Row, Harriet, w of Jacob, d Jan 2, 1859, aged 20 y 8 m 5 d.
Row, Levi, b Apr 13, 1824; d Mar 7, 1872, aged 47 y 10 m 24 d.
Row, Amelia, w of Levi, d Dec 23, 1895, aged 70 y 3 m 8 d.
Row, George, b July 20, 1799; d Jan 20, 1868, aged 68 y 7 m 3 d.
Row, Franklin, s of J. and S.M., b June 5, 1877; d May 1, 1878.
Row, Albert D., s of Ed. and L., b Dec 18, 1861; d Oct 21, 1870.
Row, Sarah E., d of Ed. and L., b Feb 5, 1873, aged 18 y 10 m 3 d.
Row, Cath., w of John, d Oct 5, 1870, aged 71 y 3 m 25 d.
Row, Jeremiah, d Aug 27, 1856, aged 57 y 8 m 9 d.
Row, Rosan Elizabeth, w of Fred A., d Oct 17, 1874, aged 87 y 9 m 22 d.
Row, Margaret J., d of Peter and L., d Aug 10, 1871, aged 21 y 6 m 9 d.
Row, Lida, d of Peter and L., d Mar 25, 1872, aged 7 m 6 d.
Row, Mary, w of Samuel, d Oct 27, 1879, aged 73 y 2 m 27 d.
Row, Samuel, b Sept 8, 1804; d Nov 14, 1874, aged 69 y 2 m 27 d.
Row, Fremont, s of Jacob and H., d Mar 7, 1879, aged 21 y 6 m 3 d.
Row, Peter, d Sept 8, 1885, aged 82 y 2 m 10 d.
Row, Lydia, w of Peter, d Mar 5, 1884, aged 75 y 1 m 21 d.
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Row, Jonathan, d Oct 18, 1889, aged 76 y 6 m 24 d.
Row, Sarah, w of Jonathan, d Nov 23, 1895, aged 80 y 9 m 8 d.
Row, David, ---- d. 1901.
Row, Katie E., d of Wm H. and Mary S., d Apr 4, 1900, aged 30 y 8 m 22 d.
Row, Susanna, w of Samuel P., d Aug 27, 1897, aged 55 y 5 m 7 d.
Row, Willis, s of S. and L., d Aug 18, 1879, aged 4 m 27 d.
Row, Joel, d Feb 28, 1883, aged 54 y 3 m 7 d.
Row, Maria, w of George, d July 21, 1879, aged 75 y 4 m 13 d.
Row, Cath., d Mar 9, 1878, aged 69 y 8 m 10 d.
Row, Wm., d Aug 18, 1889, aged 78 y 7 m 21 d.
Row, Elizabeth, d Dec 10, 1891, aged 76 y 2 m 11 d.
Row, Polly, d Sept 30, 1893, aged 75 y 5 m 28 d.
 
ELIZABETH (ANDERSON?) ROW:
LORI PARKS - GENFORUM DATA:
Posted by Lori Parks on July 06, 1998 at 18:26:08:
In Reply to: Re: Rowe pronounced like Cow posted by David Rowe on July 05, 1998 at 11:55:05:
David, I found a little information from a book (I only have a copy of one page). It appears to be called "Further Facts on Rowe Relatives". I don't know who wrote it.
1. Biography of John Rau-Row-Rowe was compiled from the Rowe Family
Genealogy - updated in 1968 by Jack Rowland Rowe of Elkhart, Indiana.
My uncle, Perry Row, sent this copy to me.
John Rau-Rowe, son of Jacob was married to Elizabeth Anderson (1777-1856). This couple had seven sons: Jake (1808-1878), George (1809-1896) John (1810-1868),
Henry (1813-1899), Peter (1815-1888), Daniel (1817-1898), and Benjamin (1820-1895). John and Elizabeth Anderson Rau moved to Indiana in 1841. John Rau's children
spelled their name Rau but their descendants spelled the family name Row and Rowe. Present day descendants spell it Rowe and pronounce it "ow" to rhyme with
"cow".
John and Elizabeth apparently returned to Pennsylvania in later years prior to their deaths. They are both buried in Rau's Church cemetery, Salem, Pennsylvania.
Hope this helps. Lori
 
-----Original Message-----
From: wells [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 1:41 AM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: Elizabeth Anderson
Sorry, I can't help you on the proving the John Anderson part. I do have the name of Elizabeth's husband though. It is John Rau. John's father is Jacob Rau (1759-1795) Elizabeth (1777-1856) is buried in the Row/Salem Cemetery in Salem, PA (Snyder Co.). Her husband John (1777-1855) and she moved to Indiana in 1841. They apparently moved back prior to their death. The moving part of the information was from a posting on the GenForum July 6, 1998 from Lori Parks. She had his death and birth date as 1775-1856 and I think she got this from Ruth Row Clutcher's book. It is very plain on the tombstone and it is in the Biographical Record of Salem Church Cemetery that his death and birth dates are 1777-1855.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: wells [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: August 24, 1999 12:04 PM
To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Subject: Re: Elizabeth Anderson
No, wrong guess. This is Rozzy Wells. My mom was a Rowe from Indiana. We
traveled to the Row/Salem Church because my direct ancestor, George was the
first one buried there. John and Elizabeth spelled their last name Rau.
You might want to check there. I am not sure where Cheryl (the one that
typed it) got her information. I got my information from person that did
the original record of the cemetery. Also we were there and I believe I got
a picture of the gravestone. Let me look. Yep. I attached them. They may
not be the best pic's but keep in mind, they are old graves. One pic,
apparently I had the sun in the wrong place, so I enclosed the one that I
took at an angle too.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]
Sent: August 24, 1999 8:14 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject:
Hi Lori,
Isee from your data below that John RAU married Elizabeth ANDERSON.
I have been told that this Elizabeth is a daughter of William ANDERSON & Rebecca (unknown) of PA.
Do you have any info. on Elizabeths family? (ANDERSON'S)
am researching the family of William ANDERSON (b. abt. 1752-55; d abt. 1840 Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., PA.) & Rebecca (Unknown) (b. Abt. 1751, d. May 17, 1839 Chapman twp., Union Co., PA)
THANKS....JIM ANDERSON
 
**The following was posted to GenForum:
Posted by Lori Parks on July 06, 1998 at 18:26:08:
In Reply to: Re: Rowe pronounced like Cow posted by David Rowe on July 05, 1998 at 11:55:05:
David, I found a little information from a book (I only have a copy of one page). It appears to be called "Further Facts on Rowe Relatives". I don't know who wrote it.
My uncle, Perry Row, sent this copy to me.
John Rau-Rowe, son of Jacob was married to Elizabeth Anderson (1777-1856). This couple had seven sons: Jake (1808-1878), George (1809-1896) John (1810-1868),
Henry (1813-1899), Peter (1815-1888), Daniel (1817-1898), and Benjamin (1820-1895). John and Elizabeth Anderson Rau moved to Indiana in 1841. John Rau's children
spelled their name Rau but their descendants spelled the family name Row and Rowe. Present day descendants spell it Rowe and pronounce it "ow" to rhyme with
"cow".
John and Elizabeth apparently returned to Pennsylvania in later years prior to their deaths. They are both buried in Rau's Church cemetery, Salem, Pennsylvania.
Hope this helps. Lori
 
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PENNSYLVANIA - RESEARCH
1) Book - " Deed Abstracts & Revolutionary War Oaths Of Allegiance of Lancaster County, PA", first published in 1965. contains deed books 1729-1770. $25,00 & sold by The Bookmark", P.O. Box 90 Knightstown, IN (Indiana) 46148.
- This book was recommended by David G. Moore in his article on the PA, Lancaster, tales web page. Migration Pattern Of The Scotch-Irish Moore's 1717 to 1775. He quotes parts of the book in the following.
- "The greatest relative importance of Irish migration to America was from 1717 to 1775. Oh sure, there were some earlier & some later - however this is the "bulk" of the Scotch-Irish.
- 1st wave 1717-1718 (many hundreds of ships arrived)...
- 2nd wave 1727-1729 (even greater in number).
- Pennsylvania was their favorite colony, the coastline area was already over-populated, in their opinion, so they had to settle West of Philadelphia in Lancaster Co (about 45 miles). No doubt some had arrived earlier & were in Philadelphia & New Jersey & Maryland, Mass, NY & everywhere else, but again we are talking about the "bulk" of the Scotch-Irish".
In the 1720's & 30's they spread West towards what is now Cumberland Valley & probably a few even dared to cross the mountains farther West toward what is today Pittsburgh. There were ill feelings between the Germans camps & the Irish camps in PA around 1740 & many a riot took place during election times. I quote from the book - As a result the Penns instructed their agents in 1743 to sell no lands to the Scotch-Irish throughout the region, but to make them generous offers of removal to the Cumberland Valley, further to the Westward."