Carr Last Revised November 2003


Leatham Launch Genealogy


Carr Family of Lancashire


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Descendants of William Carr
Generation No. 1

1.  William1 Carr was born 1640 in Hoole, and died Unknown.  He married Ellin 1675.

Notes for William Carr:
on IGI Jennett to William Carr at Hoole 7/7/1695 ( check parish rigister )
   
Children of William Carr and Ellin are:
2.    i.    James2 Carr, b. 27 August, 1676, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Edward Carr, b. 20 May, 1677, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

Notes for Edward Carr:
igi : to William 20/5/1677 @ Hoole

3.    iii.    Richard Carr, b. 11 August, 1678, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Anne Carr, b. 7 November, 1680, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
4.    v.    Edward Carr, b. 13 August, 1682, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Bridget Carr, b. 2 March, 1685/86, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown; m. John Parker, 1712, Kirkham.
5.    vii.    William Carr, b. 1 December, 1689, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.


Generation No. 2

2.  James2 Carr (William1) was born 27 August, 1676 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.
   
Child of James Carr is:
6.    i.    James3 Carr, b. 7 December, 1711, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

3.  Richard2 Carr (William1) was born 11 August, 1678 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.

Notes for Richard Carr:
igi : to William 11/8/1678 at Much Hoole
   
Children of Richard Carr are:
    i.    Margaret3 Carr, b. 1701, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
7.    ii.    William Carr, b. 29 September, 1702, Hoole, Lancs; d. 1794.
    iii.    Alice Carr, b. 1705, Hoole; d. Unknown; m. Richard Clayton, 28 June, 1724, Preston.
8.    iv.    Robert Carr, b. 13 July, 1714, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

4.  Edward2 Carr (William1) was born 13 August, 1682 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.

Notes for Edward Carr:
igi : to William 13/8/1682 @ Hoole
   
Children of Edward Carr are:
    i.    Bridget3 Carr, b. 21 September, 1712, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

More About Bridget Carr:
Census: 21 October, 1712, christening Penwortham

9.    ii.    Edward Carr, b. 1713, Longton; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Isaac Carr, b. 17 March, 1722/23, Penwortham; d. 20 March, 1722/23, Penwortham.

5.  William2 Carr (William1) was born 1 December, 1689 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Isabel 1716.
   
Child of William Carr and Isabel is:
    i.    Margaret3 Carr, b. 15 October, 1717, Liverpool; d. Unknown.


Generation No. 3

6.  James3 Carr (James2, William1) was born 7 December, 1711 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Ann Valentine 7 May, 1744 in Liverpool St Nicholas.
   
Children of James Carr and Ann Valentine are:
    i.    Catherine4 Carr, b. 27 September, 1747, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

Notes for Catherine Carr:
igi: to James 27/9/1747 @ Liverpool St Nicholas

    ii.    Anne Carr, b. 15 July, 1750, Liverpool; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Thomas Carr, b. 3 March, 1766, Preston; d. Unknown.

7.  William3 Carr (Richard2, William1) was born 29 September, 1702 in Hoole, Lancs, and died 1794.  He married (1) Elizabeth Gradwell 1728 in Much Hoole.  He married (2) Margaret Rimmer 6 June, 1738 in North Meols.
   
Child of William Carr and Elizabeth Gradwell is:
10.    i.    Thomas4 Carr, b. 30 September, 1728; d. Unknown.
   
Children of William Carr and Margaret Rimmer are:
11.    ii.    John4 Carr, b. 1 January, 1740/41, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
12.    iii.    James Carr, b. 1742, North Meols; d. Unknown.
13.    iv.    William Carr, b. 16 October, 1743, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
14.    v.    Richard Carr, b. 27 September, 1747, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Thomas Carr, b. 16 December, 1750, Birkdale; d. 20 April, 1768, North Meols.
15.    vii.    Margaret Carr, b. 4 November, 1753, Birkdale; d. 1837.

8.  Robert3 Carr (Richard2, William1) was born 13 July, 1714 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Margaret Banister 21 February, 1735/36 in Hoole, Lancs.

Notes for Margaret Banister:
in parish register the following info : Margaret daughter of John Bannister of Tarleton 5/9/1714. p314.
Margaret daughter of Robert Bannister of Tarleton 14/11/1714
   
Children of Robert Carr and Margaret Banister are:
    i.    Jane4 Carr, b. 1 January, 1736/37, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
16.    ii.    Mary Carr, b. 19 May, 1741, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
17.    iii.    John Carr, b. 21 April, 1745, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
18.    iv.    Richard Carr, b. 14 May, 1749, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

9.  Edward3 Carr (Edward2, William1) was born 1713 in Longton, and died Unknown.  He married Grace 1735.

Notes for Edward Carr:
on Penwortham parish : Elizabeth daughter of Edward of Hutton 11/2/1751
   
Children of Edward Carr and Grace are:
    i.    Elizabeth4 Carr, b. 9 October, 1737, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

Notes for Elizabeth Carr:
igi : to Edward & Grace 9/10/1737 @ Penwortham

    ii.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 13 November, 1743, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    iii.    James Carr, b. 22 April, 1752, Penwortham; d. Unknown.


Generation No. 4

10.  Thomas4 Carr (William3, Richard2, William1) was born 30 September, 1728, and died Unknown.  He married Jane Simms 1760 in Hoole.
   
Children of Thomas Carr and Jane Simms are:
19.    i.    William5 Carr, b. 16 January, 1763, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    ii.    John Carr, b. 17 June, 1765, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
20.    iii.    Isabel Carr, b. 23 July, 1769, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Jane Carr, b. 23 February, 1772, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    v.    Mary Carr, b. 14 November, 1773, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
21.    vi.    John Carr, b. 5 January, 1776, Hoole; d. Unknown.
    vii.    Ellen Carr, b. 13 April, 1778, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

Notes for Ellen Carr:
Check marriage to James Abbott 16.02.1801 at Penwortham

22.    viii.    Thomas Carr, b. 26 May, 1780, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    ix.    Richard Carr, b. 24 August, 1788, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

11.  John4 Carr (William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1 January, 1740/41 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Ann Unknown.
   
Children of John Carr and Ann are:
    i.    Mary5 Carr, b. 1781, Liverpool; d. Unknown.
23.    ii.    William Carr, b. 4 January, 1784, Liverpool; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Catherine Carr, b. 2 April, 1786, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

Notes for Catherine Carr:
St Peters L/pool marriages : Catherine to George Percy 10/5/1810

    iv.    Thomas Carr, b. 1798, Liverpool; d. Unknown; m. Mary Gibson, Unknown.

12.  James4 Carr (William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1742 in North Meols, and died Unknown.  He married Ellen Sparks 20 December, 1767 in North Meols.
   
Children of James Carr and Ellen Sparks are:
    i.    James5 Carr, b. 17 September, 1769, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Betty Carr, b. 25 April, 1771, Poolside; d. Unknown.

Notes for Betty Carr:
igi : to James Carr & Ellen 25/4/1771 North Meols

24.    iii.    Richard Carr, b. 25 April, 1773, Row Lane, North Meols; d. Unknown.

13.  William4 Carr (William3, Richard2, William1) was born 16 October, 1743 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Jenet Todd 3 April, 1775 in North Meols, daughter of John Todd and Margery Rimmer.

Notes for William Carr:
William had a total of nine children.
   
Children of William Carr and Jenet Todd are:
25.    i.    John5 Carr, b. 6 January, 1776, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
26.    ii.    Thomas Carr, b. 6 April, 1777, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Margery Carr, b. 22 November, 1778, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Margaret Carr, b. 9 January, 1780, North Meols; d. Unknown.
27.    v.    William Carr, b. 20 August, 1781, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Margery Carr, b. 16 March, 1783, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    vii.    George Carr, b. 19 February, 1786, Birkdale; d. Unknown.

14.  Richard4 Carr (William3, Richard2, William1) was born 27 September, 1747 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Mary Rimmer 28 June, 1768 in Birkdale, daughter of James Rymer and Isabel Jump.

Notes for Richard Carr:
Notes received from  Mrs I Johnson, 61 Dingle Rd, UpHolland, Skelmersdale West Lancs, WN8 OEW
Richard Carr was the second son of William Carr and his wife Margaret ne Rymer. He was baptised on 27/9/1747. In 1768 he married Mary Rymer and went to live in Ash Tree Farmhouse. His marriage and that of his sister Margaret to Mary Rymers brother Thomas linked together two old local families, the Rymers and the Carr's. A generation later his daughter Isabel married Hugh Marshall and Elizabeth Rimmer married they had common ancestors.
igi: to William & Margaret 27/9/1747 @ North Meols
   
Children of Richard Carr and Mary Rimmer are:
28.    i.    Richard5 Carr, b. 1769, North Meols; d. Unknown.
29.    ii.    Isabel Carr, b. 23 April, 1769, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Margaret Carr, b. 14 May, 1769, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    iv.    John Carr, b. 8 September, 1771, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    v.    Jane Carr, b. 1772, Leyland; d. Unknown.
30.    vi.    James Carr, b. 19 December, 1773, Row Lane, North Meols; d. Unknown.
31.    vii.    William Carr, b. 3 January, 1779, North Meols; d. 1814, North Meols.
32.    viii.    John Carr, b. 21 September, 1783, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ix.    Martha Carr, b. 25 December, 1785, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. Hugh Sawyer, 23 January, 1804, North Meols.
    x.    Peggy Carr, b. 30 March, 1788, Birkdale; d. Unknown.

15.  Margaret4 Carr (William3, Richard2, William1) was born 4 November, 1753 in Birkdale, and died 1837.  She married Thomas Rimmer 20 February, 1775 in North Meols, son of James Rymer and Isabel Jump.

Notes for Margaret Carr:
Info from Mrs I Johnson.
Margaret Carr was the daughter of William and  Margaret Carr. She was baptised on 4/11/1753. On 20/2/1775 she married Thomas Rymer the builder and landlord of the Ash Tree Inn , Birkdale. On their marriage Thomas and Margaret moved into the newly brick built in. her brother Richard Carr, who was married to Thomas sister Mary lived in the Old Ash Tree Farmhouse.
Margaret had seven children including James who succeeded his father as landlord of Ash Tree Inn.
Her fortunes appear to have changed after the death of her husband in 1810. In 1814 she was living in a cottage for the poor ( Township Cottages ) with another old lady Nancy Ball.
Why her own family the Rymers and the Carr's were not supporting her is a mystery and unusual at the time. Old people usually stayed within the family unit.
She died in 1837 and was buried on 3/4/1837, Her daughter Margaret married James Ball and she lived in the township Cottages ( now known as Union Cottages ) with her husband until her death sometime between 1841 and 1851.
 
   
Children of Margaret Carr and Thomas Rimmer are:
33.    i.    James5 Rymer, b. 1775; d. Unknown.
34.    ii.    Thomas Rymer, b. 1802; d. Unknown.

16.  Mary4 Carr (Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 19 May, 1741 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  She married Henry Carr 1764 in Much Hoole.
   
Children of Mary Carr and Henry Carr are:
    i.    Margaret5 Carr, b. 9 June, 1765, Hoole; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Robert Carr, b. 22 March, 1767, Hoole; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Richard Carr, b. 11 May, 1777, Hoole; d. Unknown.

17.  John4 Carr (Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 21 April, 1745 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Alice 1765.
   
Children of John Carr and Alice are:
35.    i.    Edward5 Carr, b. 27 April, 1766, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Betty Carr, b. 8 November, 1767, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

Notes for Betty Carr:
igi : to John Carr & Alice 8/11/1767 at Penwortham

36.    iii.    John Carr, b. 17 February, 1773, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Alice Carr, b. 18 August, 1776, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
37.    v.    Thomas Carr, b. 6 December, 1778, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Sarah Carr, b. 31 March, 1782, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

18.  Richard4 Carr (Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 14 May, 1749 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Mary Ward 1774 in Much Hoole.

Notes for Richard Carr:
igi: to Robert 14/5/1749 at Hoole
   
Children of Richard Carr and Mary Ward are:
    i.    Margaret5 Carr, b. 4 September, 1774, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
38.    ii.    Robert Carr, b. 14 July, 1776, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Betty Carr, b. 6 December, 1778, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

Notes for Betty Carr:
igi : to Richard & Mary 6/12/1778 at Hoole

39.    iv.    John Carr, b. 27 May, 1781, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    v.    Isabel Carr, b. 23 May, 1784, hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
40.    vi.    Betty Carr, b. 11 July, 1790, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    vii.    Jane Carr, b. 11 July, 1790, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
41.    viii.    Mary Carr, b. 31 March, 1793, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.


Generation No. 5

19.  William5 Carr (Thomas4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 16 January, 1763 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Catherine Fox 8 September, 1795 in Preston St Johns.
   
Children of William Carr and Catherine Fox are:
    i.    Mary6 Carr, b. 1 April, 1798, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown; m. Edward Fairclough, 5 March, 1822, Preston.
    ii.    William Carr, b. 26 January, 1801, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown; m. Jane Stephenson, 27 May, 1822, penwortham Parish Church.
    iii.    John Carr, b. 5 December, 1802, preston; d. Unknown.

20.  Isabel5 Carr (Thomas4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 23 July, 1769 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.
   
Child of Isabel Carr is:
    i.    Thomas6 Carr, b. 6 February, 1791, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

21.  John5 Carr (Thomas4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 5 January, 1776 in Hoole, and died Unknown.
   
Children of John Carr are:
    i.    Hannah6 Carr, b. 9 September, 1810, Preston; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Hannah Carr, b. 8 March, 1812, Preston; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 10 April, 1814, Preston; d. Unknown.

Notes for Elizabeth Carr:
igi : to  John & Isobel 10/4/1814 & Preston

    iv.    Grace Carr, b. 12 November, 1815, Preston; d. Unknown.
42.    v.    Thomas Carr, b. 1 May, 1819, Preston; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Isabel Carr, b. 27 March, 1821, Preston; d. Unknown.

22.  Thomas5 Carr (Thomas4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 26 May, 1780 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Mary Holden 8 October, 1806 in Hoole, Lancs.

Notes for Thomas Carr:
1851 census Walton Village 31 347
Thomas     Carr    h70yrs    Handloom cotton weaver    Eccleston
Mary        w60yrs    ditto            Churchtown
Eleanor        d42yrs    Power loom weaver        Penwortham
Jeremiah        s23yrs    Cottonm spinner        ditto

Shown on Longton/Penwortham parish register as Thopmas Carr to Mary Holden on 8/10/1806

More About Thomas Carr:
Census: 1851, Walton Village
   
Children of Thomas Carr and Mary Holden are:
    i.    Eleanor6 Carr, b. 29 August, 1808, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

Notes for Eleanor Carr:
census 1881 : 4242 33 19
Church Brow, Walton Le Dale
Mary Nelson     58wid    Weaver    Penwortham
Charles Nelson    28son    Cloth looker Walton le dale
Eleanor Carr    73aunt    house keeper    Penwortham
igi: to Thomas & Mary 28/8/1808 at Penwortham

More About Eleanor Carr:
Census: 1881, Church Brow, Walton le Dale, with M Nelson,C Nelson

    ii.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 9 December, 1810; d. Unknown.
    iii.    John Carr, b. 7 September, 1817, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

Notes for John Carr:
Shown on Penwortham  Parish records as John born to Thomas (weaver) & Mary at Penwortham on 7/9/1817

    iv.    Caroline Carr, b. 9 February, 1823, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
43.    v.    Richard Carr, b. 19 September, 1825, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Alice Carr, b. 25 March, 1827, Hoole; d. Unknown.
44.    vii.    Jeremiah Holden Carr, b. 1831, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

23.  William5 Carr (John4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 4 January, 1784 in Liverpool, and died Unknown.  He married Eleanor Stevenson 1806 in Liverpool.
   
Children of William Carr and Eleanor Stevenson are:
    i.    Samuel6 Carr, b. 26 July, 1807, Liverpool; d. Unknown.
45.    ii.    William Carr, b. 18 February, 1810, Liverpool; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Catherine Carr, b. 9 November, 1813, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

Notes for Catherine Carr:
igi: to William & Eleanor 7/11/1813 @ Liverpool St Peter
St Peters marriages L/pool 14/8/1836  to James D Smithson

    iv.    James Carr, b. 18 January, 1816, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

Notes for James Carr:
L/pool St Peters weddings :-
James Carr engineer @Lpool engineer and Ann Whitby Lpool 17/2/1835

    v.    Ellen Carr, b. 16 January, 1820, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

24.  Richard5 Carr (James4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 25 April, 1773 in Row Lane, North Meols, and died Unknown.  He married Margaret 1810.

Notes for Richard Carr:
igi : to James Carr & Ellen 25/4/1773 at North Meols

   
Child of Richard Carr and Margaret is:
    i.    William6 Carr, b. 3 March, 1816; d. Unknown.

25.  John5 Carr (William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 6 January, 1776 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Ann Marshall 14 November, 1796 in North Meols.
   
Children of John Carr and Ann Marshall are:
    i.    Jane6 Carr, b. 24 December, 1797, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. John Jackson, 3 October, 1814, North Meols.
46.    ii.    Margery Carr, b. 22 September, 1799, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
47.    iii.    William Carr, b. 22 November, 1801, North Meols; d. 24 September, 1882, Clarence Road, Birkdale.
    iv.    James Carr, b. 21 August, 1803, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    v.    Ann Carr, b. 15 December, 1805, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Ellen Carr, b. 6 December, 1807, North Meols; d. Unknown.
48.    vii.    Jennett Carr, b. 1809, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
49.    viii.    Mary Carr, b. 2 September, 1810, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
50.    ix.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 1813, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    x.    John Carr, b. 1816, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    xi.    Thomas Carr, b. 1817, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    xii.    Mary Carr, b. 28 May, 1820, North Meols; d. Unknown.

Notes for Mary Carr:
establish proof of parentage not shown on details from Pat Barton

26.  Thomas5 Carr (William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 6 April, 1777 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Alice Bibby 20 February, 1805 in Birkdale.
   
Children of Thomas Carr and Alice Bibby are:
    i.    Jane6 Carr, b. 22 September, 1805, Birkdale.
    ii.    William Carr, b. 29 December, 1806, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. Isabella Marshall, 10 August, 1829.
    iii.    Richard Carr, b. 21 June, 1812, Birkdale; d. Unknown.

27.  William5 Carr (William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 20 August, 1781 in North Meols, and died Unknown.  He married Elizabeth Sutton 26 January, 1807.
   
Children of William Carr and Elizabeth Sutton are:
    i.    Jane6 Carr, b. 12 July, 1807, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
51.    ii.    James Carr, b. 24 January, 1810, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Ellen Carr, b. 26 April, 1812; d. Unknown; m. Paul Todd, 1838.

28.  Richard5 Carr (Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1769 in North Meols, and died Unknown.  He married Mary Unknown.
   
Child of Richard Carr and Mary is:
    i.    Richard6 Carr, b. 25 October, 1813, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

29.  Isabel5 Carr (Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 23 April, 1769 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  She married Robert Marshall 23 November, 1789 in North Meols.

Notes for Isabel Carr:
Info from Mrs I Johnson
Isabel Carr was the eldest of Richard and Mary Carrs nine children. She was baptised on 23/4/1769. In 1789 she married Robert Marshall on 28/11/1789. They had two sons Richard 1792 and Robert 1794.
Her marriage to Robert Marshall united  three old local families The Rymers, Carr's and Marshall's. She died in 1832 wand was buried on 3/3/1832. 
   
Child of Isabel Carr and Robert Marshall is:
52.    i.    Richard6 Marshall, b. 1792; d. 1853.

30.  James5 Carr (Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 19 December, 1773 in Row Lane, North Meols, and died Unknown.  He married Betty Johnson 11 May, 1795 in Birkdale.
   
Children of James Carr and Betty Johnson are:
53.    i.    Richard6 Carr, b. 14 February, 1796, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
54.    ii.    Hugh Carr, b. 21 October, 1798, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Mary Carr, b. 6 December, 1801, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. Edward Bolton.
    iv.    John Carr, b. 11 December, 1803, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. Mary Ball, Unknown.
55.    v.    James Carr, b. 30 August, 1807, North Meols; d. 13 July, 1886, Birkdale.
56.    vi.    Thomas Carr, b. 21 January, 1810, Birkdale; d. 8 December, 1884, 52 Liverpool Road, Birkdale, Southport.
    vii.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 24 May, 1812, Birkdale; d. 1818.

Notes for Elizabeth Carr:
igi : to James & Elizabeth 24/5/1812 @North Meols

    viii.    William Carr, b. 1815, North Meols; d. 1836, North Meols.
    ix.    Matthew Carr, b. 1817, North Meols; d. Unknown.
57.    x.    Robert Carr, b. 1820, North Meols; d. Unknown.

31.  William5 Carr (Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 3 January, 1779 in North Meols, and died 1814 in North Meols.  He married Ellen Thomason 9 April, 1804 in Birkdale.

Notes for William Carr:
1851 census at Formby
Paul Todd    h33yrs    Beerseller &farmer45acres    North Meols
Ellen        w38yrs                Ainsdale
Jane        d12                ditto
James        s9yrs                ditto
Elizabeth        d6yrs                ditto
Margaret        d3yrs                ditto
Mary        d1yr                ditto
William Carr    Sson27yrs Farmers labourer        Ainsdale
William Carr    F/lawwid71yrs    retired farmer    North Meols
Alice Lievesley    Serv16yrs    House servant    Formby
Thomas Cave     ser24yrs    Farm serv        Ainsdale   
   
Children of William Carr and Ellen Thomason are:
58.    i.    Mary6 Carr, b. 9 June, 1805, Banks; d. Unknown.
59.    ii.    John Carr, b. 15 November, 1807, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Richard Carr, b. 31 December, 1809, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. Alice Heaton, 1 November, 1830.
    iv.    Alice Carr, b. 19 January, 1812, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. James Halsall, 26 July, 1831, North Meols.

32.  John5 Carr (Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 21 September, 1783 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Catherine Aspinall 9 November, 1807 in North Meols.
   
Children of John Carr and Catherine Aspinall are:
    i.    Richard6 Carr, b. 24 April, 1808, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Margaret Carr, b. 16 September, 1810, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    iii.    James Carr, b. 1813, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Mary Carr, b. 1816, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    v.    Thomas Carr, b. 1817, North Meols; d. Unknown.

33.  James5 Rymer (Margaret4 Carr, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1775, and died Unknown.  He married Elizabeth Hughes 1797.
   
Child of James Rymer and Elizabeth Hughes is:
60.    i.    Robert6 Rymer, b. 9 February, 1806; d. 27 September, 1878.

34.  Thomas5 Rymer (Margaret4 Carr, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1802, and died Unknown.  He married Dorothy Marshall 1823 in Birkdale.
   
Child of Thomas Rymer and Dorothy Marshall is:
    i.    Elizabeth6 Rimmer, b. 1824; d. 1900.

35.  Edward5 Carr (John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 27 April, 1766 in Penwortham, and died Unknown.  He married Hannah Barnes 24 June, 1792 in Preston.

Notes for Edward Carr:
igi: to John & Alice 27/4/1766 @ Penwortham
   
Child of Edward Carr and Hannah Barnes is:
61.    i.    Edward6 Carr, b. 26 October, 1792; d. Unknown.

36.  John5 Carr (John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 17 February, 1773 in Penwortham, and died Unknown.  He married Isobel Cook 30 October, 1796 in Penwortham.
   
Children of John Carr and Isobel Cook are:
    i.    Alice6 Carr, b. 17 June, 1798, Longton; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Ellen Carr, b. 1 June, 1800, Longton; d. Unknown.
    iii.    William Carr, b. 12 September, 1802, Longton; d. Unknown.
62.    iv.    Edward Carr, b. 8 July, 1804, Baptised Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    v.    Edward Carr, b. 7 February, 1808, Longton; d. Unknown.

37.  Thomas5 Carr (John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 6 December, 1778 in Penwortham, and died Unknown.  He married Catherine Heaton 12 January, 1796 in Penwortham.
   
Children of Thomas Carr and Catherine Heaton are:
    i.    Betty6 Carr, b. 4 December, 1796, Longton; d. Unknown.

Notes for Betty Carr:
igi : to Thomas & Catherine 4/12/1796 at Longton

    ii.    Margaret Carr, b. 22 April, 1798, Longton; d. Unknown; m. Robert Heaton, 1 April, 1815, Longton.
    iii.    Ellen Carr, b. 2 December, 1803, Longton; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Ann Carr, b. 24 April, 1808, Longton; d. Unknown.

38.  Robert5 Carr (Richard4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 14 July, 1776 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Sarah Dickinson 1800 in Hoole, Lancs.

Notes for Robert Carr:
could this be the following
1851 census
Doles Lane, Croston 107 226359 630.
SAra Carr hwid66yrs weaver @ Ulnes Walton
Richard son30 worsted  weaver @ ditto

   
Children of Robert Carr and Sarah Dickinson are:
    i.    Catherine6 Carr, b. 13 September, 1801, Hoole; d. Unknown.
63.    ii.    Richard Carr, b. 22 July, 1804, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

39.  John5 Carr (Richard4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 27 May, 1781 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Nancy Gibson 1797.
   
Children of John Carr and Nancy Gibson are:
    i.    Betty6 Carr, b. 2 July, 1797, Longton; d. Unknown.

Notes for Betty Carr:
igi : to John & Nancy 2/7/1797 at Longton

    ii.    John Carr, b. 24 March, 1805, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

Notes for John Carr:
 L/pool St Peters marriages: 18/91826 John to Elizabeth Holmes

    iii.    James Carr, b. 27 May, 1806, Benns Gardens,Liverpool; d. Unknown.

Notes for James Carr:
In Liverpool weddins :- On 30/7/1828 at St Peters James Carr, engineer L/pool to Elizabeth Williams.  ?

    iv.    Fanny Carr, b. 13 June, 1808, Benns Garden, Liverpool; d. Unknown.
    v.    John Carr, b. 1 October, 1809, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

Notes for John Carr:
Marriage St Peters L/pool : John to Rachel Cowan 7/9/35

64.    vi.    Lawrence Carr, b. 3 January, 1813, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
65.    vii.    Thomas Carr, b. 3 January, 1813, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
    viii.    Anne Carr, b. 24 June, 1824, Croston; d. Unknown.
66.    ix.    John Carr, b. 11 May, 1828, Longton; d. Unknown.
    x.    Cicely Carr, b. 1 August, 1830, Croston; d. Unknown.

40.  Betty5 Carr (Richard4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 11 July, 1790 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.

Notes for Betty Carr:
igi : to Richard & Mary 11/7/1790 at Hoole
   
Child of Betty Carr is:
    i.    Sarah6 Carr, b. 3 July, 1814, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

41.  Mary5 Carr (Richard4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 31 March, 1793 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.
   
Child of Mary Carr is:
    i.    George6 Carr, b. 14 February, 1813; d. Unknown; m. Esther, Unknown.


Generation No. 6

42.  Thomas6 Carr (John5, Thomas4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1 May, 1819 in Preston, and died Unknown.  He married Elizabeth Baxter 27 January, 1842 in Preston.
   
Children of Thomas Carr and Elizabeth Baxter are:
67.    i.    John7 Carr, b. 29 April, 1838, Preston; d. Unknown.
    ii.    John Thomas Carr, b. 4 September, 1842, Preston; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Mary Ann Carr, b. 8 March, 1846, Preston; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Mary Ann Carr, b. 22 June, 1855, Preston; d. Unknown.

43.  Richard6 Carr (Thomas5, Thomas4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 19 September, 1825 in Penwortham, and died Unknown.  He married Ann 1850.

Notes for Richard Carr:
1881 census : 4237 26 4 : 10 a Walton St, Preston
Richard Carr    h55yrs    Ironmonger    Penwortham
Ann        w58yrs            Cuerden
James        Gson7yrs            Walton le dale
Epsa        Gdaught4yrs        ditto

More About Richard Carr:
Census: 1881, 10a Walton St, Preston
   
Child of Richard Carr and Ann is:
    i.    James7 Carr, b. 18 January, 1852, Preston; d. Unknown.

44.  Jeremiah Holden6 Carr (Thomas5, Thomas4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1831 in Penwortham, and died Unknown.  He married Elizabeth Pursell 25 December, 1859 in Preston St John.

Notes for Jeremiah Holden Carr:
1881 census: Dewhurst Row, Cuerden 4216 81 17
Jeremiah Carr    h50    Coton minder    Penwortham   
Elizabeth        w45            BUK
George        s20    Cotton minder    Cuerden
Mary H        d18    Cotton weaver    ditto
Elizabeth        d14    Cotton winder    ditto
Phillip W        s7            ditto


More About Jeremiah Holden Carr:
Census: 1881, Dewhurst Row, cUERDEN  4216 81 17
   
Children of Jeremiah Carr and Elizabeth Pursell are:
    i.    George7 Carr, b. 1861, Cuerden; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Mary h Carr, b. 1863, Cuerden; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 1867, Cuerden; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Eleanor Carr, b. 3 April, 1870, Preston; d. Unknown.
    v.    Phillip W Carr, b. 1874, Cuerden; d. Unknown.

45.  William6 Carr (William5, John4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 18 February, 1810 in Liverpool, and died Unknown.  He married Alice Unknown.
   
Child of William Carr and Alice is:
    i.    Alice7 Carr, b. 29 January, 1832, Liverpool; d. Unknown.

46.  Margery6 Carr (John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 22 September, 1799 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.
   
Child of Margery Carr is:
68.    i.    James7 Carr, b. 3 December, 1820; d. Unknown.

47.  William6 Carr (John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 22 November, 1801 in North Meols, and died 24 September, 1882 in Clarence Road, Birkdale.  He married Margaret 1822.

Notes for William Carr:
Will search details confirmed by Pat Barton:  William Carr of Clarence Road, Birkdale died 24/9/1882 at Home address proved at Liverpool on 28/12/1883 by Ralph Carr, " London Hotel" Windsor Road, Southport, licensed victualler effects £518-7s-7d

More About William Carr:
Will: 28 December, 1883, proved atLiverpool by Ralph Carr

More About Margaret:
Burial: 18 July, 1863, St Cuthberts, Birkdale
   
Children of William Carr and Margaret are:
    i.    Ann7 Carr, b. 1823, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. Joseph Rimmer, 17 September, 1860, St James, Birkdale.
    ii.    John Carr, b. 20 June, 1824, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. 16 May, 1825.
    iii.    John Carr, b. 11 September, 1825, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Ralph Carr, b. 17 December, 1826, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. 25 January, 1828.
    v.    Catherine Carr, b. 28 September, 1828, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Ellen Carr, b. 24 January, 1830, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    vii.    Mary Carr, b. 29 May, 1831; d. Unknown; m. John Tomlinson, 23 May, 1868, Birkdale.
    viii.    Margaret Carr, b. 30 March, 1834, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ix.    William Carr, b. 30 March, 1834, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. 12 December, 1834.
    x.    Jane Carr, b. 4 October, 1836, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
69.    xi.    Ralph Carr, b. 1840, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. 8 September, 1886, "London Hotel", Windsor Rd, Southport.
70.    xii.    Thomas Carr, b. 1842, Snuttering Lane, Birkdale; d. Unknown.

48.  Jennett6 Carr (John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1809 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  She married (2) William Barton 22 July, 1828.
   
Child of Jennett Carr is:
    i.    Ann7 Carr, b. 17 December, 1826.

49.  Mary6 Carr (John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 2 September, 1810 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.
   
Child of Mary Carr is:
71.    i.    Ann7 Carr, b. 17 June, 1832; d. Unknown.

50.  Elizabeth6 Carr (John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1813 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.
   
Child of Elizabeth Carr is:
    i.    John7 Carr, b. 27 September, 1835.

51.  James6 Carr (William5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 24 January, 1810 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Jane Aindow 8 April, 1833.
   
Children of James Carr and Jane Aindow are:
    i.    William7 Carr, b. 5 December, 1833, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Richard Carr, b. 7 May, 1837, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iii.    John Carr, b. 1838, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iv.    James Carr, b. 1840, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    v.    Mary Carr, b. 1841, Birkdale; d. Unknown.

52.  Richard6 Marshall (Isabel5 Carr, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1792, and died 1853.  He married Margaret Thomason 10 December, 1811 in North Meols.
   
Children of Richard Marshall and Margaret Thomason are:
    i.    Isabel7 Marshall, b. 1813; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Alice Marshall, b. 1815.
72.    iii.    Hugh Marshall, b. 1822; d. 1890.

53.  Richard6 Carr (James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 14 February, 1796 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Elizabeth Roberts 28 October, 1816 in North Meols.
   
Children of Richard Carr and Elizabeth Roberts are:
    i.    James7 Carr, b. 6 June, 1819, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    ii.    John Carr, b. 15 October, 1820, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 30 June, 1822, North Meols; d. December 1822.
    iv.    Robert Carr, b. 1824, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    v.    Catherine Carr, b. 18 June, 1826, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Ann Carr, b. 22 August, 1836, North Meols; d. Unknown.

54.  Hugh6 Carr (James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 21 October, 1798 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Elizabeth Lloyd 24 September, 1821 in Birkdale.
   
Children of Hugh Carr and Elizabeth Lloyd are:
73.    i.    Elizabeth7 Carr, b. 16 December, 1821, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Mary Carr, b. 3 October, 1824; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Martha Carr, b. 13 April, 1828; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Cath Carr, b. 17 January, 1830; d. Unknown.
    v.    Ann Carr, b. 20 August, 1832, Birkdale; d. Unknown; m. Thomas Sawyer, 1854, Birkdale.
    vi.    Charlotte Carr, b. 19 June, 1836; d. Unknown.
    vii.    Isabella Carr, b. 26 September, 1838; d. Unknown.

55.  James6 Carr (James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 30 August, 1807 in North Meols, and died 13 July, 1886 in Birkdale.  He married Margaret Halsall 1838.

Notes for James Carr:
Richard born 1832 may not be corect check.
Will search confirmed by Pat Barton :-  James Carr of Birkdale , farmer, died 13/7/1886 at Birkdale, proved Liverpool 21/2/1887 by Richard Carr of Ash Tree Farm, Bedford Road, Birkdale, Farm Labourer , son. effects £17.
   
Children of James Carr and Margaret Halsall are:
    i.    James7 Carr, b. 1840, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Richard Carr, b. 1843, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 1848, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    iv.    William Carr, b. 1850, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale.
    v.    Thomas Carr, b. 1852, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Alice Carr, b. 1854, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
74.    vii.    Mary Carr, b. 1858, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    viii.    Margaret Carr, b. 1859, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ix.    John Carr, b. 1860, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.

56.  Thomas6 Carr (James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 21 January, 1810 in Birkdale, and died 8 December, 1884 in 52 Liverpool Road, Birkdale, Southport.  He married Ann Heaton 27 September, 1830.

Notes for Thomas Carr:
census 1881: 3745 77 24
52 Liverpool Rd Birkdale
Thomas Carr    71yrs    cow keeper    Birkdale
Ann        72yrs            ditto
Catherine        53yrs            ditto
Elizabeth        46yrs            ditto

Will search :-  Proved on 20/1/1885 Thomas Carr of Liverpool Rd, Birkdale, farmer died 8/12/1884 at 52 Liverpool Road, Birkdale, proved at Liverpool by Ann Carr of 52 Liverpool Road, Birkdale, widow. effects £462-10/6d , confirmed by Pat Barton

More About Thomas Carr:
Census: 1881, 52 Liverpool Rd, Birkdale
Will: 20 January, 1885, proved at Liverpool by Ann Carr
   
Children of Thomas Carr and Ann Heaton are:
    i.    Catherine7 Carr, b. 1828, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 1836, Birkdale; d. Unknown.

57.  Robert6 Carr (James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1820 in North Meols, and died Unknown.  He married Sarah 1843.
   
Children of Robert Carr and Sarah are:
    i.    Elizabeth7 Carr, b. 1847; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Sarah E Carr, b. 1857; d. Unknown.
75.    iii.    Richard Aaron Carr, b. 1860; d. Unknown.
    iv.    William J Carr, b. 1862; d. Unknown.
    v.    John H Carr, b. 1864; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Hannah Carr, b. 1866; d. Unknown.
    vii.    Robert C Carr, b. 1868; d. Unknown.
    viii.    Margaret A Carr, b. 1871; d. Unknown.

58.  Mary6 Carr (William5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 9 June, 1805 in Banks, and died Unknown.  She married (2) Robert Rymer 9 October, 1826 in Birkdale, son of James Rymer and Elizabeth Hughes.
   
Child of Mary Carr is:
76.    i.    Richard7 Carr, b. 9 April, 1820, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.
   
Child of Mary Carr and Robert Rymer is:
    ii.    James7 Rymer, b. 3 June, 1832; m. Elizabeth Rimmer, 1860.

59.  John6 Carr (William5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 15 November, 1807 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Elizabeth Blundell 1830.

Notes for John Carr:
1861 census
14 St Walburgs St Preston. RG  3131 106
John Carr        h53    weaver        Penwortham
Elizabeth        w57            ditto
James        s27    ditto        ditto
Alice        d25    ditto        ditto
Ann        d22    dittp        ditto
Ellen        d18    ditto        ditto
Elizabeth        d14    ditto        Preston
John Fiddler    Bd21    ditto        ditto
Details yet to be confirmed with D Holmes   
   
Children of John Carr and Elizabeth Blundell are:
    i.    Ellen7 Carr, b. 1833, North Meols; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Richard Carr, b. 1834, North Meols; d. 1838.
    iii.    Alice Carr, b. 22 May, 1836, Penwortham; d. June 1836.

60.  Robert6 Rymer (James5, Margaret4 Carr, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 9 February, 1806, and died 27 September, 1878.  He married Mary Carr 9 October, 1826 in Birkdale, daughter of William Carr and Ellen Thomason.
   
Child of Robert Rymer and Mary Carr is:
    i.    James7 Rymer, b. 3 June, 1832; m. Elizabeth Rimmer, 1860.

61.  Edward6 Carr (Edward5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 26 October, 1792, and died Unknown.  He married Isabel Birkback 14 November, 1829 in Preston.
   
Child of Edward Carr and Isabel Birkback is:
    i.    Isabella7 Carr, b. 30 August, 1835, Preston; d. Unknown.

62.  Edward6 Carr (John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 8 July, 1804 in Baptised Penwortham, and died Unknown.  He married Elizabeth Wilding 23 January, 1826 in Penwortham.

Notes for Edward Carr:
Indicated on marriage licence of James Carr 1/1/1853 proffession given as Weaver.
letter received from John ? of Bowmans Batch, Knightcott, Banwell, Somerset, BS24 6HS. tele 01934 820366 giving details of James Carr and ancestors. Yet to be confirmed but added at this time.
Contacted David Holmes of 170 Chapel Lane, New Longton, Preston tele 01772 616026. ( also Traffords, Whitesides, Waltons etc )
igi: to John & Isobel 8/7/1804 at Penwortham

More About Edward Carr:
Census: 1853, Longton
   
Children of Edward Carr and Elizabeth Wilding are:
77.    i.    James7 Carr, b. 15 January, 1827, Bretherton, Croston Nr Preston; d. 20 February, 1888, 40 Euston Street Preston.
78.    ii.    Geoffrey Carr, b. 18 April, 1830, Longton; d. Unknown.
79.    iii.    Edward Carr, b. 26 February, 1837, Longton; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Grace Carr, b. 19 February, 1838, Longton; d. Unknown.
    v.    John Carr, b. 10 November, 1839, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

63.  Richard6 Carr (Robert5, Richard4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 22 July, 1804 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Rachel 1824.

Notes for Richard Carr:
igi : to Robert & Sarah 13/9/1801 @ Hoole
   
Child of Richard Carr and Rachel is:
    i.    William7 Carr, b. 26 June, 1825, Hoole, Lancs; d. Unknown.

Notes for William Carr:
? 1881 census 4223 14 21: Middleforth Bridge, Penwortham
William Carr    h57yrs    Farmer 7acre    Much Hoole
Sarah        w46yrs            Fleetwood
Mary        d4yrs            Leyland

64.  Lawrence6 Carr (John5, Richard4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 3 January, 1813 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Jane Snailham 3 July, 1834 in Penwortham.
   
Children of Lawrence Carr and Jane Snailham are:
    i.    Ann7 Carr, b. 1831, Preston; d. Unknown.
    ii.    William Carr, b. 8 December, 1835, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

Notes for William Carr:
igi : to Lawrence & Jane 8/2/1835 @ Penwortham
1881 census : 4240 190 39. 24 Brieryfield , Preston
William Carr    h45yrs    ins agent        Much Hoole
Mary        w38yrs            Penwortham
Mary        d11yrs            ditto
David        s7yrs            ditto
William        s6yrs            ditto   
Ellen        d3yrs            ditto

    iii.    Rebecca Carr, b. 10 October, 1838, Preston; d. Unknown.

Notes for Rebecca Carr:
igi : to Lawrence & Jane 7/10/1838 at Preston

    iv.    Jane Carr, b. 14 February, 1841, Preston; d. Unknown.

65.  Thomas6 Carr (John5, Richard4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 3 January, 1813 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Dorothy 1837.
   
Children of Thomas Carr and Dorothy are:
    i.    John7 Carr, b. 26 August, 1838, Longton; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Nancy Carr, b. 31 January, 1841, Penwortham Parish Church; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Dorothy Carr, b. 5 January, 1843, Farington; d. 19 December, 1846, Longton.

Notes for Dorothy Carr:
igi : to Thomas & Dorothy 5/1/1843 @ Farington
Shown on Penwortham  Parish records as being buried 19/12/1846 aged 4yrs

More About Dorothy Carr:
Burial: 19 December, 1846, parish Church, Penwortham

    iv.    Sarah Carr, b. 24 August, 1844, PEnwortham Parish Church; d. Unknown.
    v.    Jane Carr, b. 25 August, 1844, Penwortham; d. 19 December, 1846, Longton.

Notes for Jane Carr:
Shown on Penwortham  Parish records as being buried 19/12/1846

More About Jane Carr:
Burial: 19 December, 1846, Parish Church, Penwortham

    vi.    Nancy Carr, b. 31 January, 1846, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    vii.    Thomas Carr, b. 17 December, 1846, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

Notes for Thomas Carr:
1881 census: 4215 36 29 Railway Hotel, Leyland
Thomas Carr    h34yrs    Inn keeper Longton
Mary        w30yrs        Lea
Alice Smith    S/l24yrs        Lea
Ellen Smith    S/l30yrs        Newton with Scales

    viii.    Ann Carr, b. 26 December, 1847, Longton; d. Unknown.

Notes for Ann Carr:
Shown on Penwortham  Parish records as being born to Thomas (farmer) & Dorothy 26/12/1847

    ix.    William Carr, b. 9 September, 1849, Penwortham; d. Unknown.
    x.    Dorothy Carr, b. 20 October, 1850, Penwortham; d. Unknown.

Notes for Dorothy Carr:
igi: to Thomas & Dorothy 20/10/1850 @ Penwortham

66.  John6 Carr (John5, Richard4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 11 May, 1828 in Longton, and died Unknown.  He married Agnes 1865.
   
Children of John Carr and Agnes are:
    i.    Mary7 Carr, b. 1866, Liverpool; d. Unknown.
    ii.    George L Carr, b. 1871, Liverpool; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Agnes Carr, b. 15 December, 1872, Liverpool; d. Unknown.


Generation No. 7

67.  John7 Carr (Thomas6, John5, Thomas4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 29 April, 1838 in Preston, and died Unknown.  He married Ann Askew 11 October, 1857 in Preston.

Notes for John Carr:
1881 census : 4234 35 66. 5 Moorhall Road Preston
John Carr        h45yrs    Flagger/ Slater    Preston
Ann        w46    Cotton Weaver    Leyland
Zachariah    s12            Preston
James        s7            Preston
Mary Ann        d5            Preston


More About John Carr:
Census: 1881, 5 Moor Hall St, Preston
   
Children of John Carr and Ann Askew are:
    i.    George Thomas8 Carr, b. 2 January, 1859, Preston; d. Unknown; m. Sarah J, 1882.

Notes for George Thomas Carr:
1881 census : 4225 78 52
14 Gilbert St, Preston
George T Carr    h22    Flagger        Preston
Sarah J        w20    cotton weaver    ditto
Margaret        sis16    ditt        ditto

More About George Thomas Carr:
Census: 1881, 14 Gilbert St, Preston

    ii.    Jane Carr, b. 18 March, 1861, Preston; d. Unknown.
    iii.    John Carr, b. 25 May, 1862, Preston; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Margaret Carr, b. 19 June, 1864; d. Unknown.

Notes for Margaret Carr:
see details for George T Carr

    v.    Zachariah Carr, b. 3 January, 1869, Preston; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Leon Carr, b. 28 May, 1871, Preston; d. Unknown.
    vii.    James Carr, b. 1874, Preston; d. Unknown.
    viii.    Mary Ann Carr, b. 1876, Preston; d. Unknown.

68.  James7 Carr (Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 3 December, 1820, and died Unknown.  He married Ann Carr 2 March, 1856 in Liverpool St Nicholas, daughter of Mary Carr.
   
Children of James Carr and Ann Carr are:
80.    i.    Mary8 Carr, b. 1854; d. Unknown.
81.    ii.    John Carr, b. 1856; d. Unknown.
82.    iii.    Robert Carr, b. 1859; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 1861, Park St, Southport; d. Unknown.
    v.    James Carr, b. 1865, Park St, Southport; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Ann Carr, b. 1868; d. Unknown; m. Robert Marshall, 1890.

Notes for Robert Marshall:
Brought up Albert Carr " Harry Marsh"

69.  Ralph7 Carr (William6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1840 in Snuttering Lane, Birkdale, and died 8 September, 1886 in "London Hotel", Windsor Rd, Southport.  He married Alice 1870.

Notes for Ralph Carr:
Will search confirmed by Pat Barton : Ralph Carr late of "London Hotel" Windsor Road, Southport Hotel proprietor died 8/9/1886 at home address proved at Liverpool 21/10/18886 by Alice Carr of th"London Hotel" widow, and Henry Ball of Hope St , Southport, retired beer house keeper. effects £1245-5s-10d

More About Ralph Carr:
Will: 21 October, 1886, proved at Liverpool to Alice Carr
   
Children of Ralph Carr and Alice are:
    i.    Leopold8 Carr, b. 1867, 48 Manchester Road, Southport; d. 1894.
    ii.    Theodore Carr, b. 1868, 48 Manchester Road, Southport; d. Unknown; m. Alice, Unknown.
    iii.    Beatrice Carr, b. 1871, 48 Manchester Road, Southport; d. 7 December, 1875.

70.  Thomas7 Carr (William6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1842 in Snuttering Lane, Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Mary Smith 28 February, 1859.

More About Thomas Carr:
Census: 1871, Castle St, Birkdale
   
Children of Thomas Carr and Mary Smith are:
    i.    William H8 Carr, b. 1860; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Margaret A Carr, b. 1863; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Ellen. A Carr, b. 1869; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Amelia Carr, b. 1870.

71.  Ann7 Carr (Mary6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 17 June, 1832, and died Unknown.  She married James Carr 2 March, 1856 in Liverpool St Nicholas, son of Margery Carr.
   
Children of Ann Carr and James Carr are:
80.    i.    Mary8 Carr, b. 1854; d. Unknown.
81.    ii.    John Carr, b. 1856; d. Unknown.
82.    iii.    Robert Carr, b. 1859; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 1861, Park St, Southport; d. Unknown.
    v.    James Carr, b. 1865, Park St, Southport; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Ann Carr, b. 1868; d. Unknown; m. Robert Marshall, 1890.

Notes for Robert Marshall:
Brought up Albert Carr " Harry Marsh"

72.  Hugh7 Marshall (Richard6, Isabel5 Carr, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1822, and died 1890.  He married Elizabeth Rimmer 1842.
   
Children of Hugh Marshall and Elizabeth Rimmer are:
    i.    Richard8 Marshall, b. 1843; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Thomas Marshall, b. 1844; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Robert Marshall, b. 1847; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Hugh Marshall, b. 1849; d. Unknown.
    v.    Joseph Marshall, b. 1851; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Dorothy Marshall, b. 1854; d. Unknown.
    vii.    John Marshall, b. 1856; d. Unknown.
    viii.    James Marshall, b. 1859; d. Unknown.
    ix.    Margaret Marshall, b. 1860; d. 1951.
    x.    Josiah Marshall, b. 1862; d. Unknown.
83.    xi.    Elizabeth Marshall, b. 1864; d. 1953.

73.  Elizabeth7 Carr (Hugh6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 16 December, 1821 in Birkdale, and died Unknown.  She married Robert Barton 27 March, 1839 in North Meols Independant Church, son of Robert Barton and Margaret Ball.
   
Children of Elizabeth Carr and Robert Barton are:
    i.    Margaret8 Barton, b. 1838; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Robert Barton, b. 1840; d. December 1840.
    iii.    Elizabeth Barton, b. 1845; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Robert Barton, b. 1849; d. Unknown.
    v.    Martha Barton, b. 1850; d. Unknown.
84.    vi.    Hugh Barton, b. 1856; d. Unknown.
    vii.    George Barton, b. 1860; d. Unknown.
    viii.    William Barton, b. 1865; d. Unknown.

74.  Mary7 Carr (James6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1858 in 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale, and died Unknown.  She married Richard Moore 1880.
   
Children of Mary Carr and Richard Moore are:
    i.    Elizabeth8 Moore, b. 1885, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
    ii.    George Moore, b. 1886, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.
85.    iii.    James Moore, b. 1888, 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale; d. Unknown.

75.  Richard Aaron7 Carr (Robert6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1860, and died Unknown.
   
Children of Richard Aaron Carr are:
    i.    Sally8 Carr, b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
86.    ii.    Albert Carr, b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Aaron Carr, b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Richard Carr, b. Unknown; d. Unknown.

Notes for Richard Carr:
Butcher & Farmer of land in Waterloo Rd & Sandon Rd, also where the " Our Lady of Lourdes Church now stands" info from Pat Barton

76.  Richard7 Carr (Mary6, William5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 9 April, 1820 in Hoole, Lancs, and died Unknown.  He married Ann Unknown.
   
Children of Richard Carr and Ann are:
    i.    John8 Carr, b. 20 May, 1849, Preston; d. Unknown.
    ii.    James Carr, b. 1852, Preston; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Mary A Carr, b. 1856, Preston; d. Unknown.

77.  James7 Carr (Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 15 January, 1827 in Bretherton, Croston Nr Preston, and died 20 February, 1888 in 40 Euston Street Preston.  He married Grace Abbott 1 January, 1853 in Parish Church Penwortham, daughter of Robert Abbott and Ann Jackson.

Notes for James Carr:
in poss of birth cert of Robert Carr 21/1/1853
witnesses to wedding are 1. Geoffrey Carr and Catherine Beardsworth.
wedding at Penwortham parish church both James and Grace employed as servant
Census search for 1861 (25/6/96 ) 7 Red Cross St Preston
1.  James Carr        head       34yrs      carter
2.  Grace Carr         wife          28yrs    
3.  Robert Carr        son            8yrs
4.  Ann Carr            daughter     2yrs
further census( 1881)  search for 27 Savoy St Preston  (25/6/96)
1.  Grace Carr         head          45yrs            born at Bretherton
2.  Robert Carr        son            28yrs                         Longton
3.  Ann Carr             daughter   26yrs                          Preston     Weaver
4.  Edwin Carr         son            16yrs                          Preston     Weaver
5.  David Carr          son            11yrs                         Preston
(( further search   at 4 Savoy St  (1881) may not be related
1.    Thomas Carr  head  45yrs               born at Longton
2.    Ann   Carr       wife    42yrs                           Longton
3.    Alice Carr       child   10yrs                           Preston
4.    Thomas Carr  child    5yrs                            Preston
5.     James Carr   child     1yr                             Preston     ))  

Census check for 1881 : 4223-31-11  Geoffrey Carr, Tardy Gate Lane, Penwortham
Geoffrey  Carr    45    carter        Longton   
Ann        21    Cotton weav    Preston

several neighbours called Beardsworth !
igi: to James & Grace 16/8/1864 @ Preston


More About James Carr:
Cause of Death: heart disease
Census: 1861, census 7 Redcross St Preston
Medical Information: cert by William Bell MD  witness by Robert Carr son cert 63 feb 1888

Notes for Grace Abbott:
Robert Hall once stated that Grace Abbott was rather strict in her attitude to her children.  When she found them quarrelling she would not investigate who had started the quarrel she would clout every one of them there and said 'here I will have got the one who started it!
IGI  shows Grace Abbott born to Robert Abbott and Ann 31/5/1835 at Bretheron Ebenezer Independant Church.
on 1881 census Abbotts at Bretherton
Ann        58yr    self    Bretherton    4222-107-1
Betty        42    self    ditto        4222-115-17
George        21    Ann    ditto        4222-107-1
Margaret        13    Betty    ditto        4222-115-17
Margaret        10    Ann    ditto        4222-107-1
Mary Ann        62    Thomas    ditto        4222-116-19
Thomas        58    self    ditto        4222-116-19





More About Grace Abbott:
Census: 1881, 27 Savoy St Preston

Marriage Notes for James Carr and Grace Abbott:
Marriage certificate of James and Grace Carr state that they were of full age when they married,  Both the groom and bride were unable to sign and also the witnesses.

The witnesses were:  Geoffrey Carr and Catherine Beardsworth

The father of James was Edward Carr who is stated as a weaver.  The father of Grace Abbott was Robert and he also is stated as a weaver.
   
Children of James Carr and Grace Abbott are:
87.    i.    Robert8 Carr, b. 21 January, 1853, Longton; d. 21 January, 1930, 69 Wildman Street Preston.
    ii.    Edward Carr, b. 21 June, 1855, Preston; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Ann Carr, b. 1859; d. 3 August, 1909, 171 De Lacy St ,Preston.

Notes for Ann Carr:
census 1881 shows at 27 Savoy St Preston

More About Ann Carr:
Cause of Death: Exepthalmic gaitie 3-4yrs vommiting 7days exhaustion
Census: 1881, 27 Savoy St Preston
Medical Information: cert by WHJ Sellars MD witness brother Edwin Carr. 410 august 1909

    iv.    Elizabeth Carr, b. 6 April, 1863, Preston; d. Unknown.
88.    v.    Edwin Carr, b. 16 June, 1864, 7 Redcross Street Preston; d. 8 August, 1935, Preston.
89.    vi.    David Carr, b. 1870, Preston; d. Unknown.
    vii.    Henry Carr, b. 1873, 27Savoy Street; d. 25 December, 1879, 27 Savoy Street.

More About Henry Carr:
Cause of Death: croup exhaustion
Census: 1881, 27 Savoy St Preston
Medical Information: cert by William Bell MD witness by Grace Carr mother 391  Dec 1879

78.  Geoffrey7 Carr (Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 18 April, 1830 in Longton, and died Unknown.  He married Sarah Richardson 22 December, 1855 in Preston St John.

Notes for Geoffrey Carr:
1881 census : 4223 31 11  : Tardy Gate Lane, Penwortham
Geoffrey Carr    hwid45yrs    carter        Longton
Ann        d21yrs        cotton weaver    Preston
   
Children of Geoffrey Carr and Sarah Richardson are:
    i.    Ann Grace8 Carr, b. 2 December, 1857, Preston; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Ann Carr, b. 1862, Preston; d. Unknown.

79.  Edward7 Carr (Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 26 February, 1837 in Longton, and died Unknown.  He married Mary 1865.

Notes for Edward Carr:
1891 census : 3443 72 229
225 Fylde Road, Preston
Edward Carr    h54yrs    retired policeman    Longton
Mary        w54yrs    cotton weaver    Lancaster
? Carr        s25yrs            Farnworth   
Mary E        d20yrs            St Leaver
Anne        d17yrs            Preston   
   
Children of Edward Carr and Mary are:
    i.    ?8 Carr, b. 1866, Farnworth; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Ann Carr, b. 1866, Farnworth; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Mary E Carr, b. 1871, St Leaver; d. Unknown.
    iv.    Anne Carr, b. 1874, Preston; d. Unknown.


Generation No. 8

80.  Mary8 Carr (James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1854, and died Unknown.  She married Robert Cross 1874.
   
Children of Mary Carr and Robert Cross are:
90.    i.    John9 Cross, b. 1876; d. Unknown.
91.    ii.    Reuben Cross, b. 1878; d. Unknown.
    iii.    Robert Cross, b. 1879; d. December 1879.
92.    iv.    Martha Cross, b. 1881; d. Unknown.
93.    v.    Elizabeth A Cross, b. 1883; d. Unknown.
94.    vi.    Margaret E Cross, b. 1895; d. Unknown.
95.    vii.    William Cross, b. 1899; d. Unknown.
96.    viii.    Stanley Cross, b. 1900; d. Unknown.
    ix.    James Cross, b. 1901; d. 1917.
97.    x.    Lavinia Cross, b. 1903.

81.  John8 Carr (James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1856, and died Unknown.  He married (1) Sabina Pegg 1875.  He married (2) Hannah Simms 1876.
   
Children of John Carr and Hannah Simms are:
98.    i.    Annie9 Carr, b. 1877; d. Unknown.
    ii.    John J Carr, b. 1879; d. Unknown; m. Alice ?, 1902.

Notes for John J Carr:
believed emigrated to New Zealand   

99.    iii.    Margaret E Carr, b. 18 April, 1882; d. Unknown.
100.    iv.    Caroline Carr, b. 1883; d. Unknown.
101.    v.    Mary Carr, b. 1885; d. Unknown.
    vi.    William Carr, b. 1889; d. Unknown; m. Frances ?, 1912.

Notes for William Carr:
Believed to have had 7 or 8 children names etc not known

    vii.    Edith Carr, b. 1890; d. Unknown; m. William Buckley, 1912.

Notes for William Buckley:
William Died in great war

    viii.    Albert Carr, b. 12 June, 1892; d. 22 March, 1970.

Notes for Albert Carr:
Brought up by Aunt Ann & took the name Harry Marsh music hall comedian

82.  Robert8 Carr (James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1859, and died Unknown.  He married (1) Elizabeth ? 1881.  He married (2) S A Pretty 1890.  He married (3) S Cribbon 1899.
   
Child of Robert Carr and S Pretty is:
    i.    Sarah Ann9 Carr, b. 1892; d. Unknown; m. Edmond Wright, 1915.
   
Children of Robert Carr and S Cribbon are:
    ii.    Alice E9 Carr, b. 1900; m. Frank Berry, 1923.
102.    iii.    Robert Carr, b. 1903.
    iv.    Mary Carr, b. 1905; m. William Foden, 1928.
103.    v.    James Carr, b. 1907.
104.    vi.    Douglas Carr, b. 1919.
105.    vii.    Kenneth Carr, b. 1919.

83.  Elizabeth8 Marshall (Hugh7, Richard6, Isabel5 Carr, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1864, and died 1953.  She married William Dyson 1883.
   
Children of Elizabeth Marshall and William Dyson are:
    i.    Bertha9 Dyson, b. 1884; d. 1966; m. (1) Joseph Allen, 1904; m. (2) George Stables, 1919.
106.    ii.    Olive Dyson Allen, b. 1906; d. 1986.

84.  Hugh8 Barton (Elizabeth7 Carr, Hugh6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1856, and died Unknown.  He married Mary Winrow 1876.
   
Children of Hugh Barton and Mary Winrow are:
    i.    Elizabeth9 Barton, b. 1877; d. Unknown.
    ii.    George Barton, b. 1879; d. Unknown; m. Mary McIntire, 1901.
    iii.    Hugh Barton, b. 1880; d. Unknown.
    iv.    James Barton, b. 1881; d. Unknown.
    v.    William Barton, b. 1882; d. Unknown.
    vi.    Martha Barton, b. 1884; d. Unknown.
    vii.    Robert Henry Barton, b. 1885; d. Unknown; m. Fanny Halsall, 1910.
    viii.    Albert Barton, b. 1887; d. 15 November, 1915, Annezin cemetery, Pas de Calais, France.

Notes for Albert Barton:
Info from Commonwealth War Graves Commission WW1
Albert Barton Private 2574 of 1st/thBn The Kings ( Liverpool Regiment) who died on Monday 15th November 1915, aged 27yrs. son of Hugh and Mary Barton, 6 Wrights Terrace, Birkdale, Southport.
Commemorative info
Annezin Comunal Cemetery. Pas de Calais, France.
The Cemetery at the North West end of the village contains, in the North corner, the graves of 12 soldiers from the UK of whom 11died in 1915 and one in 1917.

    ix.    Rosa Barton, b. 1890; d. Unknown.
    x.    Mary Barton, b. 1891; d. Unknown, Guernsey.
    xi.    John Thomas Barton, b. 1892; d. Unknown.
    xii.    Richard Barton, b. 1895; d. Unknown.

85.  James8 Moore (Mary7 Carr, James6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1888 in 13 Shaftesbury Rd, Birkdale, and died Unknown.  He married Anne Jones 1910.
   
Children of James Moore and Anne Jones are:
107.    i.    Annie9 Moore, b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
    ii.    Jack Moore, b. Unknown.
    iii.    James Moore, b. Unknown.
    iv.    Alfred Moore, b. Unknown.
    v.    Hazel Moore, b. Unknown.

86.  Albert8 Carr (Richard Aaron7, Robert6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born Unknown, and died Unknown.
   
Child of Albert Carr is:
108.    i.    Roland9 Carr, b. Unknown; d. Unknown.

87.  Robert8 Carr (James7, Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 21 January, 1853 in Longton, and died 21 January, 1930 in 69 Wildman Street Preston.  He married (1) Jane Gregson 27 July, 1881 in Lune Street Wesleyan Church Preston, daughter of John Gregson.  He married (2) Mary Elizabeth Gardner 21 January, 1897 in Lune Street Wesleyan Church Preston, daughter of John Gardner.

Notes for Robert Carr:
Account to Mr Robert Carr, (my father's uncle) dated August 2nd 1902 - instructions for and preparing mortgage of premises in 69 Wildman Street to secure £150.  Account in this instance was £2.2.9d.( second address )

Also purchase of plot at Preston Burial ground dated 26th March 1895.   Preston Burial Ground Sec C Div Non Conformist  no549 proggresive no in register of purchased of graves 12622.    He resided at this time at 23 Shuttleworth Road Preston.
On the 15th February 1954, this same plot was opened up for the burial of Grace Eleanor Carr,  his daughter.
Made a request for grave search at Preston cemetery 9/4/96

Grave search received 24/04/1996 with the following information:
1st burial        Jane Carr        23 Shuttleworth Rd        Age 44
28/03/1895             (  nee Gregson)
2nd burial    Edith Annie Carr    1 Bridge Lane        Age 2
25/04/1900    (Infant)
3rd burial        Thomas Carr    1 Marsh Lane        Age 7m
14/02/1902    (Infant)
4th burial        Mary Elizabeth    32 Watling Street Road    Age 74
31/05/1926              Carr ( nee Gardner )
5th burial        Robert Carr    69 Wildman Street        Age 77
24/01/1930
6th burial        Grace Eleanor    69 Wildman Street        Age 71
15/02/1954              Carr
Marriage cert no 88 21/7/1881 Robert to Jane Gregson witness William Hall and Ann Carr at Wesleyan Methodists Lune St

Contact made Whalley Undertakers ( Ivor Whalley ) 01772 254936
Rev Forbes Sandy Lane Woodplumpton PR4 0RX   Mr Richardson 01772 690203
another address from Trade directory 122 Marsh Lane Preston shopkeeper
In poss of birth cert  , no150 Longton 1853
Father James Carr, labourer, mother Grace Carr nee Abbott
also marrige certicate no 156 solemnized at Lune St 1897, 21/1/1897
for Robert to Mary Elizabeth Gardner witness Edwin Carr and Sarah Hall
father both deceased. James Carr ( carter ) and John Gardner ( Wood turner )
Will search (25/6/96)
Robert Carr 69 Wilman St probate London 15/3/1930 tp Grace Eleanor Carr spinster effects £820-13s-0p
census 1881 shows h/a as 27 Savoy St Preston
1891 census 23 Shuttleworth Rd, Preston 3437 32 378
Robert Carr H38 Life Assurance Agent  @ Longton
Jane            W40     @ Preston
Grace Eleanor D 8  @ Preston

More About Robert Carr:
Census: 1881, 27 Savoy St Preston
Fact 4: 122 Marsh Lane Preston

Notes for Jane Gregson:
IGI A0918 IGI shows Jane Gregson born to John and Jane Gregson 23/12/1851
1881 census 4236 62 44
12 Melbourne St, Preston
Elizabeth Whitehead    hu    48    Dressmaker    Preston
Elizabeth Knowling        B    37    ditto        ditto
Jane Gregson        B    30    stocking finisher    ditto

   

More About Jane Gregson:
Census: 27 July, 1881, 12 Melbourne St Preston

More About Mary Elizabeth Gardner:
Census: 23 Shuttleworth Rd Preston
   
Child of Robert Carr and Jane Gregson is:
    i.    Grace Eleanor9 Carr, b. 2 September, 1882, 47 St Georges Road Preston; d. 9 February, 1954, Sharoe Green Hospital Preston.

Notes for Grace Eleanor Carr:
Christened at Lune Street Wesleyan Chapel on 5th November 1882

Grace Eleanor Carr - spinster.  She lived all her life in Preston, worked as a weaver in one of the mills.  Her father, Robert, had a friend who went to the American Gold Rush and brought back a gold nugget to be made into a ring for Grace.   This ring is now mine and has five seed pearls in a Victorian boat shaped feature at the middle.

She was a very house proud woman, very kind and generous.   When Laura Sophia Carr lived alone, and her children  had married, Grace took her in and gave her a home at 69 Wildman Street Preston.  She also had another house which she rented - 24 Norris Street Preston - to a couple Mr & Mrs Sharples.

She died through an accident at home.  Lighting the gas stove in the kitchen one day the match broke and she was covered in flames.  Laura had the presence of mind to wrap her in a carpet but she died a few weeks later in hospital.

The Georgian desk with bookcase (the bookcase does not belong to the desk) was Grace's property and was well polished and looked after.  This became my parents property in 1954 and now passed down to me.  It is in need of repair. 

She left property to the value of £1,722 1s 7d.

Burial papers for non-conformist burial at Preston Cemetary Section C grave No 549.   Account dated 15th February 1954 cost £5.2.6d.rect no 2447

Will probate London 26/3/54

Details of will recieved 29/3/96 Executor RH Carr, H Fazackerley commisioner of oaths . no 184.
Grace Eleanor Carr, 69 Wildman Street. on 12/11/49
appointed executors Harry Milner Gardner 135 London Rd Preston. or RH Carr.
I give and bequest unto Margaret Phillipson of 9 Salford Rd Galgate Lancaster. £80 . Miriam Sharples of 24 Norris St, Preston £80.
Margaret Gardner wife of H M Gardner 135 London Rd Preston. £20. My ring with Klondyke gold with 5 pearls to Margaret Middlebrook wife of Jack Middlebrook of " Airlee " Chapman Rd, Fulwood Preston.. Mrs Elizabeth Ann Iveson " Calthwaite" 263 Church Rd, St Annes-on-Sea, bureau & Bookcase.
To my Aunt Laura Sophia Carr, widoe of Edwin Carr, brother of my father Robert Carr deceased two dwelling houses 69 Wildman St and 24 Norris Street and whatever is left. If Mrs Elizabeth Ann Ivison of Calthwaite 263 Church Rd, St Annes-on-Sea dies before me, Grace Eleanor Carr, the bookcase and bureau have to go to Robert Carr, 5 Lincoln Street, Preston
 witnessed by Evan Thompson and Margaret Agnes Thompson. 105 Lowndes St Preston.

Addresses connected to Robert Carr and family are:

47 St Georges Road Preston - 1882
23 Shuttleworth Road Preston - 1885
69 Wilman Street Preston - 1922 still in the ownership of R. Carr

69 Wilman Street Preston -  by 1932 to 1954  the owner was G.E. Carr


More About Grace Eleanor Carr:
Census: 1930, 69 Wildman St Preston
Fact 4: 1954, 9 Salford Rd Galgate  (Phillipson will )
Fact 5: 135 London Rd preston ( HM Gardner will)
Fact 6: "Airlee" Chapman Rd Fulwood ( Middlebrook will)
Fact 7: 263 Church Rd St Annes ( Ivison will)

88.  Edwin8 Carr (James7, Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 16 June, 1864 in 7 Redcross Street Preston, and died 8 August, 1935 in Preston.  He married Laura Sophia Hall 7 October, 1909 in Weslyan Chapel Lune Street Preston, daughter of Walter Hall and Caroline Smith.

Notes for Edwin Carr:
Edwin Carr - Known as 'Ned' - Born at Preston.  His father came to live in Preston to work for a haulage firm getting 1/- per week more.   Edwin became an Insurance collector for the Prudential Insurance.   He met Laura Sophia Hall and married her in 1909 when he was 45 year old.  At the time of his marriage he lived at 171 De Lacy Street Preston.  His father's name was James (deceased) and was recorded as a carter.
Just prior to his wedding his sister died
He was prone to illnesses and at one time resided at a convalescent home near Bury - his illness not recorded in the letters.
I have photo copy letters from Laura to Leonard & Bertha at Windermere on various subjects mostly household and visiting the Lakes.
I have their certificate of marrage. Plus copy of the funeral arrangements.  To hire a hearse and 1 carr in 1935 cost £3.17.0.
Very devout Methodist, no drinking, gambling, etc.  But I believe from my father that he had a good sence of humour.
Buried at St Anne's Church, Woodplumpton, Nr Preston  Grave no 398 on 13/8/1935.
Check with records office for any further burials on grave.
IGI details of christening to James and Grace at Preston on 16/8/1864. ?
Addresses of Edwin Carr:
171 DeLacy Street Preston - 1917 ( trade directory )
Wyburn Valentines Lane Cottam
In possesion of birth cert of Edwin  no 498 Preston district 1864
Father James, carter, of 7 Redcross Street. mother Grace Carr ne Abbott.
Census for 1881 at 27 Savoy St Preston
in poss photo of Robert Hall an David Carr taken by JH Jamieson Fishergate Preston  and High St Wrexham

1891 census rg3436 41 124
84 Miles St, Preston
Edwin     Carr    h26    assuranc agent    Preston
Grace        M55            ditto
Annie        sis31    cotton weaver    ditto
David        bro21    upholster        ditto

More About Edwin Carr:
Census: 1881, 27 Savoy St Preston

Notes for Laura Sophia Hall:
Laura Sophia Hall - Married at the age of 39 in 1909 and had three boys!  Before her wedding, she became a companion to a Mrs Twist and went with her to Australia at the turn of the century.  She was in the process of going to South America with the same Mrs Twist but she met Edwin Carr and married him.
At the time of her wedding she resided at 8 Elmsley Street Preston and her father's occupation is stated as a librarian.
She was a well educated woman who would have gone far if she had had the opportunity to go to higher education.  She always stated 'There is no need to sware - there are enough words in the English language to state what your feelings are and what you  want without reverting to swaring'.
Buried at St Anne's Church, Woodplumpton Nr Preston.
I have funeral account  dated 8 November 1954  cost was £62.17.1d
Discrepancy in DOB poss 1870.  She left property to the value of £1,368 12s
Will probate London 5/10/54
Copy will received 29/3/96
executors RH Carr and D Carr. Commissioner of oaths W J Broadbent.
Laura Sophia Carr of 69 Wildman St Preston
1. Revocation of all previous wills
2. Appoint sons, Robert Hall Carr and David Carr. Executors
3. Give devise and bequeath my freehold messuage or dwelling house situate and numbered 69 Wildman Street Preston to my son David Carr absolutely.
4. Give devise and bequeath my freehold messuage or dwellinghouse situate and numbered 24 Norris Street Preston aforesaid to my son, Robert Hall Carr absolutely.
5. Give devise and bequeath all the rest residue and remainder of my estate both real and personal whatsoever and wheresoever of or to which I shall be seized possessed or entitled at my death ( after payment thereof of all my just debts funeral and testamentary expenses ) unto my two sons Robert Hall Carr and David Carr in equal shares and proportions absolutely.
In witness whereof I the said testatrix have to this my last will and testament set my hand 1/3/1954.
witnessed by E D Westhay & M M Brown  clerk with John White Robinson & Bailey Solicitors  6/7 Cannon St Preston
IGI A0921-922
Buried at Woodplumpton Church 11/9/1954. grave no 398.
Addresses known
8 Elmsley Street Preston -  prior to 1909
171 DeLacy Street             - 1909
Wyburn, St Valentines Lane, Cottam -
69, Wildman Street Preston - until she died aged 84
Copy birth cert no155 1870 Elham district Folkestone
24/6/1870 at Hospital Horncliff camp Folkeston father Humphrey Hall  Sgt 34th Foot , mother Caroline Hall formerly SMITH.
She had been brought up in army barracks and lived within army life until her twenties (so we think).   She would have liked to have had an university education and was quite capable of doing so, but her step mother would not hear of it she said Laura can go into service it was good enough for me it is good enough for her.
It is also known that at some time in her early life she was billited out with a sergeant and his wife and lived somewhere around the Durham area.  The name of the house was Wyburn this was to become the name of the bungalow that was built at Cottam by her husband Edwin later.
She hated slang and bad language she once said to Robert if you cant express yourself with the English you know without degrading yourself in slang or bad language you are better not speaking at all.
Everyone who knew her liked her she was come a day go a day and towards the end of her life she lived with her neice from her husbands side.  Grace was very particular about housework and everything had to be in its place, whereas Laura was not very particular.  If it was left to Laura the house would be mixed up. 
She was kind and with recollection as a child I was very fond of my grandmother.  She acquired diabetes in later life but was controlled by diet.  I can remember visiting her every sunday after church to be met with cauliflower and butter and I always had some.  
Percy Hall always liked to holiday with his aunt Laura as she would allow him to go anywhere, anytime and have his meals at all times of the day, she was so laid back.
It is also recorded that she was a founding member of a religous sect called the Cooneys (I think that is the word) after a Reverent Cooney.   It was run very much like the Quakers but not entirely the same.   They would visit each others houses and help out if help was needed at anyone's home who belonged to the movement.  
Father said that she went to Australia as a companion to a lady (not Lady with a capital L) We don't know much about this side of her life.   Dad also said that she was to go to South America with this same lady but when they returned back to Preston she met and married Edwin Carr six years her senior in 1909.  
After writing to Nora Phelps another slant on this was given.  She said that she went to America (or Australia) to promote the religous sect.  We do not know at this time.
She, we know became a confidant and helper to a Mrs W P Twist.  (Is this the lady who she travelled to Australia with?)   From viewing the photographs and assessing the ages of the two women it lookes like they knew each other for a number of years at least 20.
Questions to be answered:     Who is this Mrs Twist was she the leader of the sect?
What year did they travel to Australia?  When did they return?
Can we find a will of WP Twist
If So was Laura a beneficiary?
How did the burial plot become part of the Carr Family as there is no connection with Woodplumpton until later in the 1930s.        Her first son Edwin junior was not buried at Woodplumpton although it was thought he was. 
Who is buried first in the grave at Woodplumpton - Is it Mrs Twist?

More About Laura Sophia Hall:
Census: 1872, Born at Catram Camp
Fact 4: Wyburn Cottage, Cottam Preston
Fact 5: 69 Wildman Street Preston
Fact 6: 7 October, 1909, 8 Elmsley St Preston
   
Children of Edwin Carr and Laura Hall are:
    i.    Edwin Walter9 Carr, b. 12 July, 1910, 171 DeLacy Street Preston; d. 4 March, 1915, 171 DeLacy Streeet Preston.
109.    ii.    Robert Hall Carr, b. 15 October, 1911, 171 DeLacy Streeet Preston; d. 9 October, 1994, Preston, Preston Royal Hospital.
110.    iii.    David Leonard Carr, b. 1915, Preston; d. 1977.

89.  David8 Carr (James7, Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 1870 in Preston, and died Unknown.  He married Sarah Hutchinson Unknown.

Notes for David Carr:
Census 1881 shows 27 Savoy St Preston
Master upholsterer  of 1 Bridge Lane Preston


More About David Carr:
Census: 1881, 27 Savoy St Preston
   
Children of David Carr and Sarah Hutchinson are:
    i.    Edith Annie9 Carr, b. 1899; d. 25 April, 1900, 1 Bridge Lane Preston.

More About Edith Annie Carr:
Census: 25 April, 1900, 1 Bridge Lane Preston

    ii.    Thomas Carr, b. 9 July, 1901; d. 14 February, 1902, 1 Marsh Lane Preston.

Notes for Thomas Carr:
Birth cert of Thomas 10 , St John Preston  dob, 9/7/1901


More About Thomas Carr:
Census: 14 February, 1902, 1 Marsh Lane Preston


Generation No. 9

90.  John9 Cross (Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1876, and died Unknown.  He married Sarah Melvin 1900.
   
Children of John Cross and Sarah Melvin are:
111.    i.    Robert10 Cross, b. 1904.
112.    ii.    Eileen Cross, b. 1906.
113.    iii.    Lavinia Cross, b. 18 September, 1909.

91.  Reuben9 Cross (Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1878, and died Unknown.  He married Mary Glasgow 1900.
   
Children of Reuben Cross and Mary Glasgow are:
    i.    Hugh10 Cross, b. 1902; d. 1990.
    ii.    Allan Cross, b. 1904.
    iii.    Robert Cross, b. 1905; d. December 1905.

92.  Martha9 Cross (Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1881, and died Unknown.  She married William Henry 1912.
   
Children of Martha Cross and William Henry are:
    i.    Dorothy10 Henry, b. 1913.
    ii.    Stanley Henry, b. 1914.
    iii.    Vera Henry, b. 1916.

93.  Elizabeth A9 Cross (Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1883, and died Unknown.  She married William Stevens 1923.
   
Child of Elizabeth Cross and William Stevens is:
    i.    Kenneth10 Stevens, b. 1925; m. Cynthia Wiliams, 1950.

94.  Margaret E9 Cross (Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1895, and died Unknown.  She married John Sawyer 1930.
   
Child of Margaret Cross and John Sawyer is:
    i.    James10 Sawyer, b. 1933.

95.  William9 Cross (Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1899, and died Unknown.  He married Edith H Robinson 1920.
   
Children of William Cross and Edith Robinson are:
114.    i.    Patricia10 Cross, b. 1921.
    ii.    Robert William Cross, b. 1926; d. 1995.

96.  Stanley9 Cross (Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1900, and died Unknown.  He married Catherine Senior 1920.
   
Children of Stanley Cross and Catherine Senior are:
115.    i.    Stanley10 Cross, b. 1921.
116.    ii.    Catherine Cross, b. 1922.
    iii.    James Cross, b. 1924; d. 1946.
117.    iv.    Amelia Cross, b. 1930.
118.    v.    Nellie Cross, b. 1933.

97.  Lavinia9 Cross (Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1903.  She married Edward Williams 1926.
   
Children of Lavinia Cross and Edward Williams are:
119.    i.    Margaret E10 Williams, b. 1934.
120.    ii.    Brenda L Williams, b. 1935.
    iii.    Cynthia M C Williams, b. 1936; m. Kenneth Stevens, 1960.
121.    iv.    Sheila A Williams, b. 1940.
122.    v.    Neville C W Williams, b. 1941.
    vi.    Margy Williams, b. 1942; d. January 1942.
123.    vii.    Elizabeth May C Williams, b. 1945.

98.  Annie9 Carr (John8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1877, and died Unknown.  She married Thomas Rimmer 1900.
   
Children of Annie Carr and Thomas Rimmer are:
    i.    William S10 Rimmer, b. 1902.
    ii.    Hilda Rimmer, b. 1904.
    iii.    Annie Rimmer, b. 1905.

99.  Margaret E9 Carr (John8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 18 April, 1882, and died Unknown.  She married James Herbert Mitchell 1910.
   
Children of Margaret Carr and James Mitchell are:
124.    i.    John Simms10 Mitchell, b. 14 September, 1911, Southport.
125.    ii.    Alice Irene Mitchell, b. 13 September, 1913.

100.  Caroline9 Carr (John8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1883, and died Unknown.  She married Thomas Lowe 1905.

Notes for Thomas Lowe:
Emigrated to New Zealand date not known   
   
Children of Caroline Carr and Thomas Lowe are:
    i.    Leonard10 Lowe, b. 1907.
    ii.    Jack Lowe, b. 1909.
    iii.    Hannah Lowe, b. 1911.

101.  Mary9 Carr (John8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1885, and died Unknown.  She married Edgar Ward 1910.

Notes for Edgar Ward:
Emigrated to Australia date not known

   
Child of Mary Carr and Edgar Ward is:
    i.    Thora10 Ward, b. 1911.

102.  Robert9 Carr (Robert8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1903.  He married M R Dawber 1923.
   
Children of Robert Carr and M Dawber are:
    i.    Derek10 Carr, b. 1925; m. S R Williamson, 1950.
    ii.    Kathleen R Carr, b. 1928; m. K C Chester, 1952.
126.    iii.    Robert B Carr, b. 1940.

103.  James9 Carr (Robert8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1907.  He married Ethel Hopwood 1930.
   
Child of James Carr and Ethel Hopwood is:
    i.    Barbara10 Carr, b. 1932; m. K Dimmer, 1955.

104.  Douglas9 Carr (Robert8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1919.  He married K M Boultree 1948.
   
Child of Douglas Carr and K Boultree is:
    i.    Marylyn A10 Carr, b. 1949; m. John M Parker, Unknown.

105.  Kenneth9 Carr (Robert8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1919.  He married Olwen Wright 1940.
   
Children of Kenneth Carr and Olwen Wright are:
    i.    Irene10 Carr, b. 1942.
    ii.    James R Carr, b. 1945; m. Carole Wright, 1968.
    iii.    Susan M Carr, b. 1947; m. Stanley Morrison, 1969.
    iv.    Carole Carr, b. 1949; m. Christopher McKeon, 1970.
    v.    Gillian R Carr, b. 1954; m. James MacDonald, 1978.

106.  Olive Dyson9 Allen (Elizabeth8 Marshall, Hugh7, Richard6, Isabel5 Carr, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1906, and died 1986.  She married Richard Aubrey Falcon 1937.
   
Child of Olive Allen and Richard Falcon is:
127.    i.    Iris10 Falcon, b. 1938.

107.  Annie9 Moore (James8, Mary7 Carr, James6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born Unknown, and died Unknown.  She married John Rimmer 1925, son of James Rimmer and Julie Vienet.
   
Child of Annie Moore and John Rimmer is:
    i.    John Vienet10 Rimmer, b. 1926; d. Unknown.

Notes for John Vienet Rimmer:
retired to "Abbeyfield" 43 Waterloo Road, Southport

108.  Roland9 Carr (Albert8, Richard Aaron7, Robert6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born Unknown, and died Unknown.  He married Margaret Giddy Unknown.
   
Children of Roland Carr and Margaret Giddy are:
128.    i.    Richard10 Carr, b. 1949.
    ii.    Allen Carr, b. Unknown; m. Ann Robinson.

109.  Robert Hall9 Carr (Edwin8, James7, Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 15 October, 1911 in 171 DeLacy Streeet Preston, and died 9 October, 1994 in Preston, Preston Royal Hospital.  He married Doris Edmundson 23 May, 1942 in Orchard Methodist Church, Preston, Lancs, daughter of Eli Edmundson and Selina Trafford.

Notes for Robert Hall Carr:
Robert Hall Carr - served his time as a wheelwright at Woodplumpton.  He passed to go to the Grammar School but his parents couldn't aford to send him.  His father said ' I will make sure that you have an apprenticeship and become a tradesman after that you can sweep the streets if you wish I will have done my part'.   He could not join the army in the second world war through 'flat feet'.  He met Doris Edmundson and married in 1942 they lived at Wyburn Cottage, Cottam Nr Preston. 

He worked all his life as a joiner on building sites up and down Lancashire.  When he retired he found a new passion that of making spinning wheels.

Always the teller of tall tales and jokes.  Some of his sayings are now part of the Whiteside family's speech.

Places of work consisted of building of Cortaulds factory - he was the general forman - at Preston.   Worked for many years at British Aerospace - his Morris Car having a back red light from a Lightening P1 reputed to be able to do Mac 10.  At one time 'Bob' worked in company with Harry Whiteside well before David and Jean was born.

Certificate for joinery
I have certificate of proficiency (Home Guard)
Birth Certificate
Driving Licence
Death Certificate
Will
Buried at Woodplumpton papers no 158 grave 398 on 14/10/94

Some Sayings of Robert Hall Carr

'All change here for Hipping Chipping Chowbent and Chorley
                   Hollop Scollop, Back Lane and Canal Street'
(Usually said when catching a bus)

Apples a pound, pears, plumbs
If you want the meat without the bone, buy the liver
If you don't want any meat
Please take the baby's bottom off the counter

'What doesn't fatten with fill'  -  after dropping food on the floor and pick up to eat


Marriage licence no 28 Orchard Chapel 23/5/1942 Robert Hall Carr 30yrs aircraft assembler of Wyburn Valentine Lane Cottom Lea. to Doris Edmundson 25yrs Cigarette packer of 1 Clarenden Street Preston.
witnesses William Alfred Frodsham, David Leonard Carr and Irene Amriding
fathers : Edwin Carr deceased Ins agent  and Eli Sydney Edmundson shoe repairer


More About Robert Hall Carr:
Cause of Death: Aortic Atheroma
Census: 1926, attended Roebuck school preston
Medical Information: Ruptured Abdominal aortic aneurysm ( operated )Cert no 256 dated 121094 ( af499973

Notes for Doris Edmundson:
Born at 55 Euston Street Preston and brought into the world by Elizabeth Trafford ( nee Shuttleworth )
Birth cert no375 page 75 29/11/1916 to Eli Sydney starp piercer and Selina Edmundson nee Trafford
   
Child of Robert Carr and Doris Edmundson is:
129.    i.    Elizabeth Jean10 Carr, b. 24 August, 1947, Fulwood, Preston,Lancashire.

110.  David Leonard9 Carr (Edwin8, James7, Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 1915 in Preston, and died 1977.  He married Vera Kilham 22 December, 1943 in Emmanuel Church , Preston.
   
Children of David Carr and Vera Kilham are:
130.    i.    Doris Laura Mary10 Carr, b. 5 January, 1944, Preston; d. 1972.
    ii.    Grace Doris Carr, b. 6 September, 1946.
131.    iii.    David Andrew Carr, b. 1951.


Generation No. 10

111.  Robert10 Cross (John9, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1904.  He married Bella Coulton 1924.
   
Children of Robert Cross and Bella Coulton are:
    i.    John11 Cross, b. 1926.
    ii.    Ann Cross, b. 1928.

112.  Eileen10 Cross (John9, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1906.  She married Thomas Bridges 1927.
   
Child of Eileen Cross and Thomas Bridges is:
    i.    Joyce11 Bridges, b. 1930.

113.  Lavinia10 Cross (John9, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 18 September, 1909.  She married Norman Leyland 1930.
   
Children of Lavinia Cross and Norman Leyland are:
    i.    Norma11 Leyland, b. 1935.
    ii.    John Leyland, b. 1938.

114.  Patricia10 Cross (William9, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1921.  She married John Barton 1940.
   
Children of Patricia Cross and John Barton are:
    i.    Nova P11 Barton, b. 1942; m. Norman Rimmer, 1965.
    ii.    Rodney J Barton, b. 1945.

115.  Stanley10 Cross (Stanley9, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1921.  He married (1) M Jolly 1944.  He married (2) D Smith 1947.
   
Children of Stanley Cross and M Jolly are:
    i.    Anthony F11 Cross, b. 1945.
    ii.    Penny E Cross, b. 1946.

116.  Catherine10 Cross (Stanley9, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1922.  She married Mark Marshall 1945.
   
Children of Catherine Cross and Mark Marshall are:
    i.    Mallory11 Marshall, b. Unknown.
    ii.    Merrick R Marshall, b. Unknown.

117.  Amelia10 Cross (Stanley9, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1930.  She married Thomas Dewhurst 1953.
   
Children of Amelia Cross and Thomas Dewhurst are:
    i.    Linda11 Dewhurst, b. 1955.
    ii.    Tricia Dewhurst, b. 1957.
    iii.    Josie Dewhurst, b. 1959.
    iv.    Steven Dewhurst, b. 1960.

118.  Nellie10 Cross (Stanley9, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1933.  She married Michael G Dixon 1954.
   
Children of Nellie Cross and Michael Dixon are:
    i.    Phillip11 Dixon, b. 1955.
    ii.    John Dixon, b. 1957.

119.  Margaret E10 Williams (Lavinia9 Cross, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1934.  She married Ernest Barber 1960.
   
Child of Margaret Williams and Ernest Barber is:
    i.    Nigel11 Barber, b. 1962.

120.  Brenda L10 Williams (Lavinia9 Cross, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1935.  She married Donald D Pearson 1956.
   
Child of Brenda Williams and Donald Pearson is:
    i.    Lorna E11 Pearson, b. 1957.

121.  Sheila A10 Williams (Lavinia9 Cross, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1940.  She married Terry Garside 1965.
   
Child of Sheila Williams and Terry Garside is:
    i.    Fenella J L11 Garside, b. 1967.

122.  Neville C W10 Williams (Lavinia9 Cross, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1941.  He married Audrey Twelves 1958.
   
Child of Neville Williams and Audrey Twelves is:
    i.    Aline L11 Williams, b. 1959.

123.  Elizabeth May C10 Williams (Lavinia9 Cross, Mary8 Carr, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1945.  She married Terrence J Stocks 1969.
   
Child of Elizabeth Williams and Terrence Stocks is:
    i.    Oliver11 Sawyer, b. 1971.

124.  John Simms10 Mitchell (Margaret E9 Carr, John8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 14 September, 1911 in Southport.  He married Bettie Mildred Jewel 14 March, 1942 in Southport.

Notes for John Simms Mitchell:
John was Mayor of Southport for year 1967/68
   
Children of John Mitchell and Bettie Jewel are:
    i.    Keith Carr11 Mitchell, b. 27 November, 1944, Southport.
    ii.    Judith Jewel Mitchell, b. 17 March, 1950, Southport.

125.  Alice Irene10 Mitchell (Margaret E9 Carr, John8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 13 September, 1913.  She married Reginald Middleton 1935.
   
Children of Alice Mitchell and Reginald Middleton are:
    i.    Michael11 Middleton, b. 5 May, 1939.
132.    ii.    Pauline Anne Middleton, b. 19 April, 1945.

126.  Robert B10 Carr (Robert9, Robert8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1940.  He married (1) M Spencer 1963.  He married (2) Eleanor 1977.
   
Children of Robert Carr and M Spencer are:
    i.    Janet11 Carr, b. 1965.
    ii.    Steven Carr, b. 1967.
   
Child of Robert Carr and Eleanor is:
    iii.    Nicola11 Carr, b. 1978.

127.  Iris10 Falcon (Olive Dyson9 Allen, Elizabeth8 Marshall, Hugh7, Richard6, Isabel5 Carr, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1938.  She married Brian Johnson 1967.
   
Children of Iris Falcon and Brian Johnson are:
    i.    Helen Elizabeth11 Johnson, b. 1968.
    ii.    Richard Brian Johnson, b. 1970; m. Ruth Gee, 1993.

128.  Richard10 Carr (Roland9, Albert8, Richard Aaron7, Robert6, James5, Richard4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 1949.
   
Child of Richard Carr is:
    i.    Paul11 Carr, b. 1974.

129.  Elizabeth Jean10 Carr (Robert Hall9, Edwin8, James7, Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 24 August, 1947 in Fulwood, Preston,Lancashire.  She married David Whiteside 31 May, 1969 in Gutteridge Church, Deepdale,Preston, Lancs, son of Harry Whiteside and Lilian Rigby.

Notes for Elizabeth Jean Carr:
Baptismal cert 28/9/1947 at Orchard Liverpool St Preston

From Birth to the age of 22 lived at 5 Lincoln Street, Preston - now demolished through compulsory purchasing by the Council.

Attended Deepdale primary, and secondary school, where she met David Whiteside from the age of 5.  Both attended Gutteridge Memorial Church and was married there 31.05.69.

Trained as a typist/clerk for a wholesale Chemist (Woolley & Arnfield) this firm originated from Stockport and eventually was taken over by Glaxo.  Worked there for 7 years from the age of 15 - 22. 

Next job was at BAC (Education Department) clerk Typist.  During this time was married and then moved to Liverpool when David joined the Police in 1970.

After a few non-descript part time posts at Liverpool ending as a GPO operator, became a housewife full time when Jennifer was born in 1975.  At this time became interested in Machine Knitting and wanted to teach this subject eventually.

Anne was born in 1975 at the same nursing home - Park House, Liverpool.  At this time David applied and got a posting to North Yorkshire, Skipton.  We moved here when Anne was six weeks old, to a Police House, No 1 North Parade Skipton.

The love of Machine Knitting increased and found that a course ULCI for the subject was being taught at Preston Lancs.   Each Wednesday travelled with Masie Rowley to gain this qualification. Moved to Embsay, 13 Shires Lane, in 1978.

 Received the 2 year qualification in 1982 and immediatly enrolled on a C&G 730 teaching course at Craven College, Skipton.   During the last year of this course I applied and was awarded a Churchill Travelling Fellowship to travel to Japan (1984).  The fellowship lasted for one month and in that time travelled to Nagoya, and Tokyo to study the machine knitting schools.  

Met  Debs and Rodney Sutton who lived in Tokyo and have remained friends ever since.

Taught Machine Knitting for three years at Earby and occationally Skipton.   Found that the subject was beginning to lack popularity and therefore the source of extra finance was depreciating.  

Took a post of receptionist at Tarmac Quarries down the road from Embsay, but after approximately 4 years part time decided to return to college to 'brush up' my qualifications in the office.   The course at Craven College took 2 years to complete but ended with RSA Advanced Diploma in Office Procedures.

Applied for Secretary post at Airedale General Hospital and began work there on 28 May 1990.  My boss was Jill Burt, the District Physiotherapist.   She was replaced when she left through ill health by Enid feather who is the Physiotherapy Services Manager.


Notes for David Whiteside:
Born in Preston at Sharoe Green Hospital, very delicate child actually christened twice. Sister in charge a Sister Eaves. she became a close friend of the family. Brought up at the family home at  14 Falcon St Preston. Educated locally at Deepdale Primary School , headmaster Mr England. Believe it or not Jean attended same school. After the 11plus exam attended Deepdale Secondary School, in the B stream, teachers included , Miss Kirkham, Mr Wooton, Miss Aspinall, Miss Budge, Mr Hall, Mr Vipond ( woodwork ) and a few others. Left at 15yrs starting as an apprentice joiner with IRVINE Bros, 5 Gaythorne Ave, Farringdon Park, Preston. First place to work was MacFisheries store Cheapside Lancaster. Father General Foreman. Others on same firm, Fred Dixon, Bill Dixon, Ted Flanagan, Tony Flanagan, Norman Hartness,  and others, attended Harris Technical College Preston for night school, where I met dear Jean, thus began a great romance !. I used to wait outside the school and whistle such melodious tunes as " Just like Eddie " by Hienz. Left Irvines when I was 21yrs and started to travel round various building site, included in these are:- 1 Lancashire Agricultural College Mysercough for Gleesons. ( used to take firewood to Alfs just along the lane )  then onto 2 Tom Finneys , False ceilings travelled around quite a lot last place of work was Bronze Powder works at Darwen, left after dispute about Dirt money.  3 Foster double glazing contractors, Lostock Hall. What a job, left after 2 weeks, it was winter.  4, Prestoplan, factory built houses ( no longer standing, it was in Horrockses old Mill )  3 months working inside left to find a more interesting invironment, 5 Started at Rentokil, travelling round most of the North west including the Lakes, teamed up with the one and only George Dickinson. By this time I was married, prior to getting married we hadnt a clue whereabouts we would be living, when Uncle Archie fixed us up with a flat at Flat 4 49 Waterloo Road, Ashton Preston. ( ex- Police station ! )
Joined the police on 1st June 1970, during training at Bruche had the choice of Droylesden, Bacup or Seaforth, chose Seaforth and moved in during September 1970. In 1975 moved from Seaforth to Skipton livinag at North Parad, Skipton. By this time two daughters had arrived on the scene Mk1= Jennifer Helen Whiteside 12-7-72 then Mk2 = Anne Elizabeth Whiteside 9/7/75. Moved to present address in August 1978. Taking up the post of Rural Constable for Bolton Abbey Beat area. 

More About David Whiteside:
Census: 1 June, 1970, Appointed policeman pc5418
Fact 4: 26 August, 1978, Moved to Embsay, 13 Shires Lane
Fact 5: 1 April, 1974, Force changes Merseyside  PC3254
Fact 6: January 1992, Elected G Div Fed rep
Fact 7: January 1996, re elected Fed rep.  Vice Chairman
Fact 8: 31 May, 1969, 14 Falcon St Preston
Medical Information: Diagnosed Diabetic Sept 1995 treatment by diet only at this time
   
Children of Elizabeth Carr and David Whiteside are:
    i.    Jennifer Helen11 Whiteside, b. 12 July, 1972, Waterloo, Liverpool 22.

Notes for Jennifer Helen Whiteside:
Interested in music, plays the clarinet and was ranked 13th in the U.K. for Old Tyme dancing.
Has spent 18 months in France on the university degree course.  One year in Marseille and 6 months in Lille.
Completed a 4yr degree course at Middlesex which incorporated a period at Marseille. obtained a BA hons degree 2/1 in European Management with French as her second language.
At present living at home.  (1997)

More About Jennifer Helen Whiteside:
Census: 12 July, 1972, 11 Brookfield Ave Waterloo Liverpool 22

    ii.    Anne Elizabeth Whiteside, b. 9 July, 1975, Waterloo, Liverpool 22.

Notes for Anne Elizabeth Whiteside:
Attended Embsay Primary school, upto 11yrs and then onto Aireville School, leaving to attend Craven College when 16yrs . Only at this time did we discover hearing deffect. Continued on through higher education to her present position at Barnsley College.
Succesfully acquired an HND in Health Studies
October 1997 is at present commencing the 2nd year of a 3yr degree course at Wolverhampton University, studying Deaf Studies and Social Policy.


More About Anne Elizabeth Whiteside:
Census: 25 August, 1975, Moved to 1 North Parade Skipton
Medical Information: Partially deaf

130.  Doris Laura Mary10 Carr (David Leonard9, Edwin8, James7, Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 5 January, 1944 in Preston, and died 1972.  She married David Holbourne 1965.
   
Children of Doris Carr and David Holbourne are:
    i.    David Andrew11 Holbourne, b. 24 February, 1967, Preston.
    ii.    Angela Holbourne, b. 1969; m. Carl Shorrock, 24 July, 1992, St Lukes Church, Winmarleigh.
    iii.    Mark Holbourne, b. 1971.

131.  David Andrew10 Carr (David Leonard9, Edwin8, James7, Edward6, John5, John4, Robert3, Richard2, William1) was born 1951.
   
Children of David Andrew Carr are:
    i.    Peter11 Carr, b. 1978.
    ii.    Neil Carr, b. 1981.


Generation No. 11

132.  Pauline Anne11 Middleton (Alice Irene10 Mitchell, Margaret E9 Carr, John8, James7, Margery6, John5, William4, William3, Richard2, William1) was born 19 April, 1945.  She married Richard Lyon 1980.
   
Child of Pauline Middleton and Richard Lyon is:
    i.    Ionie12 Lyon, b. 1982.