Descendants of James Chambers
James Chambers, son of
James Chambers and Mary Brockelhurst, born 1811 1
in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England; chr. 15 Mar 1812 1 St
Michael, Macclesfield ; died 17 Jul
1864 2 Wombat, New
South Wales, Australia. He married 3 Nov 1841 2 at
Paterson near Dungog, NSW, Margaret Mackay,
daughter of Angus Mackay (1795-1894) and his first wife Jane Clark,
born 1820 Aberdeen, Scotland, chr. 1 Dec 1820 3 ;
died 8 Feb 1887 2 West Kempsey, NSW, Australia,
buried in West Kempsey Cemetery.
Margaret married (2) as his 3rd wife on 9 Dec
1867 4 at
Macleay River, Augustus Raymond,
born 27 Sep 1821 London, Surrey, England, chr. 4 Jan 1822 at Christ
Church, Southwark, Surrey; died 18 Jan 1877, Sydney, NSW, son of
Mead Raymond and Ann Chapman. No issue from her second marriage.
James Chambers & wife Margaret seated - with sisters
Jane Gaddes and Elizabeth Bradley standing 77
Family Genealogy
The
father of James Chambers was also named James and his mother
was Mary Brocklehurst. They married on 6 Jan 1807 in Prestbury
village located about 3 kilometres north of Macclesfield
in the county of Cheshire in England with Manchester being the
closest large city with a population of 95,000 in 1800 that by
1830 grew to 180,000. At the time of the marriage the groom was
living in Macclesfield and as the marriage was in Prestbury it was
likely the place of residence of Mary Brocklehurst’s parents.
It is possible James Sr. was the James Chambers whose death
was registered in Stockport in Sept Qtr. 1839 (vol. 19, page 191),
located about 10 kilometres north of Macclesfield, and his wife
the Mary at age 30 was buried there on 16 Nov 1818 or a Mary
whose death was registered there in Dec Qtr. 1853
(vol. 8a, page ?). However the latter is by no means certain as
an index to the 1851 census listed six named Mary Chambers
aged from 3 to 51 years living in Stockport of whom any one
may have been the Mary who died there in 1853. If James'
wife Mary was the Mary Chambers buried at Stockport in
1818 he would likely have remarried. Such a marriage could
have been that of a James Chambers to a Hannah Bythell
on 4 Oct 1824 at Northernden located about 19 kilometres
from Macclesfield 71.
If as speculated
James' father was the James who died in 1839 that was too early
for the 1841 first available census so his occupation is not
available from that source. However the death registration
record should provide it. It is possible his father was employed
in Macclesfield or a near village in the silk manufacturing
industry. During the 18th century the British silk industry
made considerable progress and by the year 1800 ranked
as one of England’s greatest undertakings. One of the main
provincial centres where it was established was Macclesfield.
By 1800 Macclesfield had 1500 houses and a population
of almost 9000. In the 1800s there was a significant migration
of silk workers from Spitalfields (London) to Manchester and
Macclesfield. Manchester in 1815 alone had 10,000 silk weavers.
The industry became an asylum for handloom weavers from
the cotton and woollen trades because mechanisation did not
occur in the silk industry until later in the 19th century. By 1825
the population of Macclesfield was about 20,000. That year
newspaper advertisments were seeking 4 to 5 thousand
workers aged from 7 to 20 years for employment (in throwing and
manufacturing) in the silk industry in Macclesfield and builders
to immediately build 1000 houses there. It was thus possible
it was in that industry that James Sr. was employed and
intially also his 1811 born son James perhaps starting work
as a labourer when very young before at age 18 joining the
army.
According to
extracted parish records the couple had four children christened at
Saint Michael in Macclesfield - viz. (1) Betty on 3 April 1808 (likely
to be found in later records as Elizabeth - Betty being a common
diminutive of Elizabeth), (2) Thomas on 22 Apr 1810, (3) James on
18 Mar 1812, and (4) Jane on 22 Jan 1815. It will be noted in
Australia James bestowed his siblings names of Thomas, Jane
and Elizabeth upon his children in birth order immediately
following Mary (1843-1917) named after his mother, James
Jr. (1844-1913) named after himself and his father, Angus
(1845-1869) named after his wife's father Angus Mackay, and
Margaret (1855-) named after his wife 71.
Marriage and Children
James Chambers
married Scotland born Margaret Mackay, the daughter Angus Mackay
(1795-1894) and his first wife Jane Clark, on 3 Nov 1841 at Dungog
when serving with the 4th Division of military mounted police which
covered the Hunter Valley. With her father, his second wife
Christina née Mackay, and six siblings, Margaret arrived
in Australia on the James Moran which left Lochinvar in
Scotland on 22 Oct 1838 and arrived in Sydney Harbour on
11 Feb 1839. Her father initially found work in Sydney with the
government in his trade as a carpenter before moving to Dungog.
In all he had sixteen children from his two marriages and when
he died in 1894 at Bowraville on the mid-north coast of NSW
his obituary
stated he had 276 living descendants and was only four months
shy of his hundredth birthday 69 .
No Chambers family
event certificates or transcripts of the official
registrations have been obtained by the compiler except
for that of Margaret's second marriage in 1867 to Augustus
Raymond and none have been provided by Chambers descendants.
It is understood James' 1864 death registration listed no
children's names but Margaret's in 1887 listed the names of
her then living issue which if it conformed with the requirements
should have also had their ages. Birth certificates for those
born after official registration began in March 1856 should
give the numbers of Margaret's previous issue, both male and
female, enabling a progressive numerical verification. It is
thought the best published source for the children's names
and their descendants would be the 1991 published 600 page
book mentioned above titled: Mackay-McKay Family History.
It named eleven children and was published in 1991 following
a 1988 Mackay family reunion held in Bowraville attended by
approx. 2500 descendants. To some extent the early genealogy
of the line would also appear in an unsighted by the compiler
1988 published Nancy Edge compilation of the genealogy of the
Angus Mackay family 9. In 2008 at the time of
this compilation of the below given genealogy the number of
James and Margaret Chambers descendants would presumably
run to several hundred.
Chambers papers
deposited in the Mitchell Library by a descendant referred
to below did not contain a family tree. However the manuscript
librarian advised that when cataloguing the papers a former
librarian drew up a tree relying upon notes contained
in items numbered 1, 2, and 4 listed on the linked to
in the immediately below section Mitchell Library card
catalogue. That tree had the parents of James as James Chambers
b. 1772 and Mary Brakkel, and named only eight of the
eleven James and Margaret Mackay children and their
married surnames etc. as follows - James Jr. d. 1913
(m. Angusena Bradley d. 1923 who had 8 children being -
James, 5 other sons, and 2 dau's., Angus, Margaret
(m. a Bell), Ellen (m. a Fenwick), Mary (m. a Graham)
Thos (m. and had 4 sons), Jane (m. Taylor),
William d. 8 yrs. The parents of James named in
the deposited documents as James Chambers and Mary
Brakkel was clearly incorrect as to the mother's
surname. As his 1864 death registration has not
been sighted what the informant then gave as the
maiden surname of his mother is not known.
Occupations of James
Army & Mounted Police
Prior to her 1953 death Ida Ringland, a daughter
of James Chambers Jr. and granddaughter of James Chambers
and Margaret née Mackay, deposited the above mentioned Chambers
family photos and papers in the Mitchell Library. For the
list of the deposits see the Library's Manuscripts
Index card catalogue.
This unsighted by the compiler library deposit would be
the source for incorrect claims re the history of James
published in the 1990s. Whilst acknowledging a claim by
the library depositer that James had been a Captain in
the army was likely not correct, a 1991 published book
titled - McKay/Mackay family history had as if
factual other extraordinary and equally incorrect
claims re the time James spent in the army. Stated
was that he had directed the forming of paths in the
Sydney Domain and made a large sunshade hat for the wife
of Governor Macquarie from cabbage tree fronds and a stout
pair of walking shoes from kangaroo hide and when she went
out walking he had assisted her to a resting rock on the
waterfront that he later had hewn out to form a seat
on which he had inscribed - "Mrs Macquarie's Chair".
In respect of these claims nothing more need be said
than that Governor Lachlan Macquarie and his wife Elizabeth
née Campbell (1778-1835) left Australia in 1821 when James
was still only ten years of age and eleven years before he
even arrived in the colony as a 4th regiment army private.
The Mackay history book also stated quote that - "James
had an illustrious military career". However all the records
disclose is that from enlistment when in the army his rank
was always that of Private and after he was seconded to
the military mounted police until it was disbanded never
more than Trooper. There is nothing in the records
to give rise to the claim his army service was any more
"illustrious" than that any other British Army soldier/Mounted
Police Trooper who served from enlistment without any
advancement in rank.
The Facts
James Chambers enlisted in the 4th (King's Own) Regiment
at Liverpool in England on 22 March 1831 that came to Australia
in 1832 and remained there until 1837 when it departed for India.
He arrived on the barque Parmelia which left Sheerness in
the South West of England on the 28 Jul 1832 and arrived in
Sydney Harbour on 16 Nov 1832. He was part of the thirty-one
man rank and file guard on the vessel, of whom twenty-nine
were 4th regiment soldiers, who were escorting 196 convicts
to the colony. On 1 Nov. 1834 he was seconded to the military
police in which he served for fifteen years and 61 days -
for the first ten months on foot and thereafter as a mounted
trooper until it became a civil force and then again back in
the army nominally for less than a year until his
discharge 5 .
In 1849
the decision was taken to abolish the military mounted police.
James was discharged from it in November that year and rejoined
the British Army as a private in the 11th Regiment. In a rare
act of generosity the government allowed the discharged men
to keep their cloaks. For mounted police returning to the army
a parchment certificate dated Dec 1849 was provided giving
details of their total army service up to then (his was 18 years
and 301 days) and service in the mounted police. Over hundred
and sixty years on his certificate,
that gives his mounted police service as 15 years and 61 days,
survives and is held by the Mitchell Library in Sydney. The 11th
regiment Pay and Muster Rolls for the first three quarters of
1850 listed him on its effective strength but as "on furlough
awaiting discharge". The Sept. Quarter 1850 roll gave his discharge
date as 30 Sep. 1850, birth place as Macclesfield, and that he
was a labourer at the time of his enlistment on 22 March 1831 5.
During the
period from 1839 to 1850 his name appeared only once in the
Mounted Police Defaulter's Book. The
offence committed was recorded as "getting married without
liberty" and the date it was committed as 10 Dec 1841 (note
this date was in error as the church parish register had it
as 3 Nov 1841). The punishment was that he be "dismounted" for an
unspecified period - likely for a month or so 67.
James was not an NCO but if had held a rank he likely
would have lost it as it was noted in April 1844 for
the same offence Lance-Sergeant Abraham Kershaw was
reduced to the rank of Trooper being the equivalent to a private
in the army. At the time of the offence the commandant of the
mounted police was Capt. J. W. Nunn of the 80th regiment
which was the regiment in which James was a supernumerary -
his substantive position having been transferred to that
regiment when the 4th regiment left the colony for India in 1837.
Presumably the reason why prior the approval of the commandant
to marry was required would have been to enable the intended
bride to be vetted to ensure she was of good character and not
for example an associate of a bushranger marrying a trooper
to gain access to inside information on intended police
movements!
Although
the 11th regiment's pay and muster rolls recorded James
was paid by it as a soldier until 30 Sep 1850,
by notice in the Government Gazette of 19 Jul
1850 he was appointed Chief Constable at Wagga Wagga, where
the holding of Petty Sessions had commenced in 1847 when
a court room and watchhouse were built and the first Chief
Constable (Michael Norton) who James replaced was appointed
at a remuneration of £70 P.A. It was said the 1850's
began with people "flocking down to Wagga Wagga and
that in 1851 the Chief Constable there was responsible
for the policing the maintenance of law and order over
a wide area assisted by three ordinary constables and
a watchhouse keeper 68.
There are mentions
of James in the Wagga Wagga Bench Book that recorded the
proceedings of the bench of magistrates there during the
period he was the Chief Constable (AONSW reel #594). Less
than two weeks after the gazettal of his appointment he
was listed in the Government Gazette
of 8 Oct 1850 as purchasing for the price of
£4 a half acre block of crown land with a 66 foot
frontage to Trail Street in South Wagga Wagga that was
offered for sale at an auction of thirty-three town
allotments held on 31 July 1850. This was the second
auction by the crown of town land. The first was held
on 29th Nov 1849 of the previous year following the
proclamation of the town six days earlier on the 23rd Nov.
The Chief Constable appointment there was certainly a step
up in life for James with its attendant status in the
community and remuneration of £70 P.A. being a
significant advance on the approx. £20 P.A. with
rations applicable when he was a British Army private.
However his tenure in the office was short-lived as he
resigned on 30th Sep. 1851 from the civil police force
to join the gold rushes that began after the April that
year announcement of the Hargraves discovery at the Ophir
north-west of Bathurst of the first payable gold found
in Australia. The appointment of his successor as Chief
Constable was gazetted six weeks later on 14 Nov.
1851 6.
Gold
Prospector & Miner
The afore mentioned unsighted by the compiler Ida Ringland
Mitchell Library deposit would have also been the source for
quite extraordinary claims re the gold prosepecting history
of James etc. that appeared in a 1994 published book titled -
When the river was the road that mainly covered
aspects of the history of the NSW mid-north coast town of
Bowraville and distict and some early settlers there 2.
James' mining and prospecting history would have began
shortly after his Nov. 1851 resignation from the civil
police. In April 1851 the discovery of payable gold was
announced and by the time James resigned his police position
on 30 Sep 1851 the rush that was to transform Australia was
well underway with him being just one of thousands from
all walks of life who left their occupations to chance their
hand at obtaining riches. The cited 1994 Glenn Bradley authored
book also stated his name was connected with Chambers' Creek
situated in the Parish of Coleridge North West of Bathurst, a
tributary of the Macquarie River that joins it about 4
kilometres south of its' junction with the Turon River,
where it said he was "reputed" (i.e. by Ida Ringland) to
have been the discover of a rich gold field to which a rush
eventuated about seven years after his death resulting
in the creek being named after him and likewise a town
there that once had a population of 20,000 ! 7
One
might well ask is any aspect of the claimed naming of
the creek and town after him actually correct? The answer
is a resounding NO. Firstly the 20,000 population claimed is
well astray. It would be surprising if at the height the
speculative and mining activity there in 1872-73 the
small town named Chambers that came briefly into existance
and the reefs mined east of the creek had a peak population
for more than a few months of even a tenth of the number
claimed. The 20,000 would have been that of the whole
Tambaroora goldfield area that included the principal
town of Hill End located 11 kilometres to the north that in
1872-73 had 28 of the 52 hotels in the area. By comparison
three were the most hotels noted for the town of
Chambers!
After it was floated in London in late 1872
the Sir John Moore Gold Mining Company installed in 1873
a stamping battery beside the creek for the crushing
of ore brought across it from its mine on a flying-fox. It
was said the company then employed one hundred men which
not only made it the highest capitalised company to operate
there but also the single largest employer in the history
of the Chambers' Creek field 7. The
linked maps
show on an 1866 map of NSW the area north of Bathurst where
Chambers Creek is located, the location and ruins of the
red-brick constructed Sir John Moore quartz ore crushing
battery chimney (extant in 1979), the southern extremity
of the Chambers' Creek mining leases, the location of the once
small village of Chambers south of the battery, and mentions
in the 1875 to 1877 NSW Department of Mines Annual Reports
of remnants of gold mining activity at the locality. The
latter stated by the end of 1875 only three leases on the
main line of reefs were being worked - Allen's, the Bismark
& the Sir John Moore, of which the last named was still
persevering at the end of 1875 with twelve men employed.
By the end of 1876 all leases from the southern extremity
of Hawkins' Hill just south of Hill End to Chambers Creek
were entirely unoccupied 7.
In respect of the claim
of a gold field discovery there by James Chambers and a 1870s
naming of the creek after him, the Mitchell Library manuscript
librarian advised the compiler the Chambers family papers
deposited with it 1953 that would have been the source
of the claim in the Glen Bradley book do not contain any
supporting documents. Maps showing where the various
types of gold were extracted in the Tambaroora and Turon
gold fields, newspaper reports, and other writings suggest
the creek was not a source for alluvial gold extraction
during the years to 1864 that James flourished although
alluvial gold was extracted from the Macquarie River both
above and below the creek's point of entry during the major
gold rushes to the general area that began in June 1851.
Early in July newspapers published suggestions by the NSW
Government Geologist of places with potential for alluvial
gold mining, which was then the only type of gold mining,
actually directed the attention of prospectors to the
section of the Macquarie River where Chambers Creek joined
it. However he recommended specifically prospectors target
the bar at the junction of the Macquarie and the Turon River
and the big bar across the Macquarie three miles downstream
at "Walgumbulla" which would have been no more than a mile
below where Chambers' Creek entered the river. It is
possible after resigning from the police that from late
1851 James became one of the thousands who spent some
time at the Turon River diggings and at some of the other
diggings on the Macquarie River and its tributary creeks
as well as later at other gold mining areas in NSW and
certainly in Victoria where some of his children were
born 7.
However
the claim that the creek and township that sprang up beside
it seven years after his death were named after
him as the discoverer of a "rich gold field" there could not
relate to the finding of alluvial gold there, of which in
any case there is no evidence that alluvial gold was ever
found in the creek, but to the discovery of quartz gold
there by a man named Chambers that was mined from veins
in the reefs and crushed to extract the gold upon which
a royalty was payable to the goverment. There is no
evidence gold in reef form was discovered at Chambers
Creek until 1868 by when James Chambers had been dead for
four years! Thus the claim Chambers Creek and the township
that came into into existance there briefly were named
after James simply has no merit. Following the reef gold
discovery at the locality for a few years in the early 1870s
a mining mania took hold there with the establishment of
over ninety mining leases on the three reefs lying to the
east of Chambers Creek with speculation in their purchase
and formation of mining companies. In most cases the
actual gold mining of the quartz reefs proved to be not
payable and the area became deserted 7.
So what are said to be the facts concerning the naming?
According to books authored in the mid-1960s by lifetime
Hill End area resident Harry Hodges the circumstance that
gave rise to the naming of the creek as "Chambers Creek"
was that following the discovery of reef gold there
it was named after a Mr. Chambers who in partnership
with another held a quartz mining lease on one of the
three Chambers' Creek reefs. The first newspaper
mention noted of mining activity at Chambers' Creek, that
joined the Macquarie about 4 miles upstream from its
junction with the Turon, was in the Sydney Mail
of 30 May 1868. It had that the area that was drawing the
interest of reefers and diggers was in rough country
where bits of gold had been found here and there 7
Stated
in the cited Bradley book was that James Chambers died of
apoplexy on 17 Jul 1864 at Wombat located about 13 kilometers
south of Young and the death certificate recorded his then
occupation as storekeeper at Wombat. Eight months earlier the
25 Sep 1863 birth registration for Wombat born son William
gave his father's occupation as gold miner suggesting James
may have mostly followed occupations associated with the
precious yellow metal such as prospector and miner etc.,
in NSW and Victoria for about twelve years from the time he
left the NSW civilian police force in Sept. 1851 until
not long before his death when he became a store keeper most
likely near the Wombat gold diggings 2.
Widow Margaret's Second Marriage
At the time of the 1864 death of husband James the youngest
child William was only nine months of age. The 26 November
1867 marriage of the eldest daughter Mary was registered
at Young, about 50 klms north-west of Murrumburrah which
is about 30 klms south-east of Wombat. Murrumburrah was
recorded as Margaret's usual place of residence when
she married less than a month later. Perhaps she did not
attend Mary's marriage as it was only 23 days later on 19 December
1867 she married at Pola Creek at Macleay River as his
third wife London born widower Augustus Raymond whose
second wife had died the previous year leaving him with four
young children aged from 4 to 9 years to care for.
It is possible the photo at the top of this article
of the three Mackay sisters and a small boy, with Margaret
the one seated and the boy perhaps Margaret's then almost
4 years old son William who was fated to die on 7 Sep 1971
aged seven when crushed by a tree he and his same same age
half-brother Edward Raymond fell on his parents Capeharrow Hill
at Bowraville farm when they were absence at a funeral, was
taken at the time of the Raymond marriage as the other two
sisters Elizabeth Bradley and Jane Gaddes resided in the area -
Elizabeth at Macleay River and Jane Gaddes at nearby Rolland
Plains that by then had access to Macleay River and Kempsey
via a dray trafficable road over the range.
The marriage registration record,
with some information extracted from the Parish register,
had her age as 42 years. After Augustus Raymond selected
100 acres on 6 May 1869 in the parish of Buckra Bendinni
just west of Bowra (Bowraville) they left Pola Creek
and moved there and then about 1872 to Sydney where Augustus
died in 1877. Details of his history incorporating
a link to a web page for his family in England is at :
Descendants of Augustus Raymond
After the death of her 2nd husband
When Margaret's second husband Augustus Raymond died
on 18 Jan 1877 death at 56 years of age resulting from an
injury to his spine causing paralysis and bronchitis
his will left Margaret a life interest in his estate.
In the Trades Section of The Sydney Sands Directory
for 1875 he was listed as a Cab Proprietor at
5 Ultimo Street in Ultimo and then in the Sands for
1877 in the Trades Section as a grocer at 20 Bank
Street in Pyrmont. In the year after his death there
the grocery business was relocated. The Sands for
1879 listed Margaret as a grocer at 29, 31 Athlone Place
in Ultimo and also as residing there. She was listed as
a cab owner (i.e. a hackney cab) in the trades section
of the Sydney Sands Directory for 1880 and also as a
grocer at 25, 27 Athlone Place in Ultimo and in the
alphabetical section at 25, 27/29 & 38 Athlone Place.
Athlone Place joined George Street (Broadway) on the
Pyrmont/Darling Harbour side and was resumed by the
Sydney City Council in 1906 when some 400 dwellings
and a maze of tiny lanes in the area were resumed and
all the houses removed. Pre-resumption archival
photographs of premises in the street may be held by
the Sydney City Archives in 15 City Council
“Condemnations and Demolitions” books for the period
1900-1928.
Margaret likely sold
the hackney cab and sold or closed down the Athlone Place
grocery business in 1881 as she was not listed in the
Sydney Sands for 1882 which was also the approximate
year an 1914 published article on her stepson Samuel
Raymond said he had moved to Bowraville after ceasing
to run his late father's grocery business in Sydney.
No grocers were listed in the Sydney Sands for 1883
at Athlone Place in Ultimo .
For an unknown
period Margaret resided in a house in Mount Vernon
Street in the Glebe locality of Forest Lodge. When
her daughter Ellen married John Fenwick in May 1880
Ellen's place of residence was given as Forrest Lodge
and same for daughter Margaret when she married the
following month. In 1880 son Thomas lived at Glebe
in Short Stret. In August 1880 the names of Thomas
and Margaret's stepson Samuel Raymond were consectively
listed with over 1000 others in a published list of
electors requesting a person to nominate for election
as the Member for Glebe at the next parliamentary
elections. A transcript of a January 1882 letter
written from Sydney when Margaret's brother Robert
Mackay was visiting his first wife who was a patient
in the Infirmary gave the address as "O'Dorny House"
Mount Vernon-street, Forest Lodge suggesting by then
Margaret either rented the Forest Lodge house or had
purchased the lease. The Sydney Sands Directory
for 1883 listed Margaret at Mount Vernon St. in Glebe
and in the Sands for 1884 she was last listed anywhere
in Sydney as residing at "O'Dorney house" in
Mount Vernon St. It seems the house was also referred
as "Dorney House" as a young man named H. Torrance
placed advertisments seeking a position in The Sydney Morning Herald
in Feb 1884 giving his residence as "Dorney House,
Mount Vernon-street, Forest Lodge". He may have been
a boarder as by then a tram line to Forest Lodge ran
along Parramatta Road to Derwent Street in Glebe and
then via Catherine and Mount Vernon Streets to St
Johns Road and Pyrmont Bridge Road. In June 1881
tenders had been called for the construction of the
section of tram line from Glebe Point through Mount
Vernon Street and thence to Pyrmont Bridge-road.
Mount Vernon
Street was in the Bishopthorpe Estate that included
Westmoreland and Derwent streets. The land comprising
the estate was subdivided by the Anglican Bishop of
Sydney into 238 allotments and offered from 1856 on
99-year leases. Mentions of O'Dorney House noted in
newspapers do not clarify whether Margaret had
purchased the lease, rented it, or had been a boarder
there. An advertisment in the SMH of 1 April 1876
offered it for rent at a low six shillings a week
described it as being of six bedrooms, pantry, kitchen,
bathroom, and large yard etc.
Her husband
Augustus died on 18 January 1977. Seven months later
the SMH of 25 August 1877 carried an advertisment for
a mortagee auction as a single offering of the lease
of O'Dorney House and of Leonards House with the land
title given as Lot 12 Section 6 of the Bishopthorpe
Estate describing the parcel as a well-known
leasehold situated on the east side of Mount Vernon
Street (i.e. the north-east side where the houses
are today odd numbered) and mid-way between Catherine
Street and St Johns Road with land measurements of
40 feet street frontage and 106 feet depth extending
back to a lane (Ed. Mount Vernon Lane) with each house
having front and back verandas, six bedrooms, kitchen
and washshed with water laid on and good yards with
side and back entrances. Stated was that there was
95 years to run on the lease with a £8 and 6
shillings per annum ground rent and rent for the two
houses as £1 and 12 shillings - i.e. a more
appropriate sixteen shillings a week for each house.
It seems unlikely
Margaret purchased the lease of the two houses which
presumably would have cost her from about £1500 so
more likely rented O'Dorney. By 1880 all her children
were married so she would hardly have had a need for
a six bedroom house for herself but there were at
least stepsons Samuel and Edward Raymond and stepdaughter
Sarah Raymond plus perhaps if still unmarried foster
children Helen and Margaret of unknown surnames.
Suggesting she may have boarded there, or ran it as
a boarding house with staff, was an advertisment in
the SMH of 8 Dec 1880 worded - WANTED - a strong
GIRL, Mrs. Bedding, O'Dorney House,
Mount Vernon-street, Forest Lodge.
LEFT: Margaret outside the house in Glebe - photo held by
Bowraville Museum 77
RIGHT: The same house as #17 in the street in 2017
Above is a photograph of the likely 1860s built Mount Vernon
Street house with Margaret standing in front. One hundred
and thirty five years on extant in this short street were
over a dozen dwellings seemingly dating from about the same time
with iron roofs of same alternate coloured sheets and some
with identical timber picket fences. Margaret's 1887 Kempsey
death registration, for which son James Jr. was the informant,
gave the cause of death as heart disease and her age as 64.
Son James was likely the James Chambers who about that
time was the publican of the East Kempsey Hotel. Margaret
was buried in West Kempsey Cemetery. However the published
West Kempsey cemetery headstone transcriptions do not list
a headstone. It may be her grave was not listed because a
once in place wooden cross had long rotted away or if a
stone marker was of soft sandstone and had weathered to
an extent it was unreadable or had fallen and broken into
pieces.
Children of James Chambers and Margaret
Mackay were 8:
+ 1.
Mary Chambers
+ 2. James
Chambers
3.
Angus Chambers
+
4. Jane
Chambers
+ 5.
Thomas Chambers
6.
Henry Clarke Chambers
+ 7. Margaret
Chambers
8.
Elizabeth Chambers
+ 9. Ellen Chambers
10. Jessie
Chambers
11.
William
Chambers
SECOND
GENERATION
1.
Mary Chambers, b. 19 Aug 1843 72
Dungog, NSW, Australia; d. 29 April 1917 72 (#1917-6641)
Wombat, NSW, reg. Murrumburrah, NSW, buried C of E Section of
Wombat Cemetery (grave unmarked but listed with others on
a memorial plaque in the cemetery). She married 25 Nov 1867
72 (#1867-1667) reg.
Young, NSW, Thomas Graham, d. 1902 (#1902-16755)
Young, NSW, son of George Graham and Jane.
Mary's usual residence had
been Murrumburrah near Young. Her death certificate listed
6 surviving children and 2 deceased sons 72. A
short obituary in the Young Witness of 1 May 1917
had she died at Wombat aged 74 years where she had resided
with her son and was buried that day in the C of E
section of Wombat Cemetery and was the sister of Thomas
Chambers (Wombat) and Mrs. Fenwick (Drummoyne) and her
surviving children were - the one son and five daughters
viz: Mrs. Harry Winbank (Temora), Mrs. Alexander Thompson
(Redbridge), Mrs. Hilder (Newtown), Mrs. J. Lynch (Wombat)
and Mrs. Harry Wilson (Murrumburrah).
Children of Mary Chambers and Thomas Graham were:
+ 12. i. Thomas
H. Graham
+ 13. ii. Margaret
E. Graham
+ 14. iii. George
Richard Graham
+ 15. iv. Mary Jane
Graham
+ 16. v. Florence
Charlotte
+ 17. vi. Ellen
Sarah Graham
+ 18. vii. Adeline
Gertrude Graham
19. viii. Samuel
Graham.
2. James Chambers,
b. 18 Mar 1844 72,
chr. 31 Mar 1844 8, 10 Dungog,
NSW, Australia; d. 1913 11,
Rockdale, NSW. He married in 8 Dec 1869 12, 72 at
Macleay River, NSW, Angusena "Sena"
Bradley,
b. 1 Apr 1844, Paterson, NSW; d. 1923 13 reg.
Rockdale, daughter of William Bradley (1815-1892) and Elizabeth
Mackay (1819-1890).
As their mothers Margaret and Elizabeth Mackay (wife of
William Bradley) were full-sisters James and wife
Angusena were first cousins. Angusena's name is found
variously rendered in the BDM registrations beginning
with ANG and AUG. Glenn Bradley in his 1994 book
recounted James and Sena frequently moved in and
out of Bowra, and in 1879 directly after her arrival,
while staying with Gus Raymond Jnr., Sena had a
miscarriage, the dead child being a boy. He added to
help the passing of their grief Gus Raymond had produced
a bottle of his famous brew which was guaranteed to
turn up the toe-nails of even the most hardened
drinker! 14.
James
farmed at Macleay River before in 1869 selecting
portion 21 of 51 acres (Cat. No. 136) at Bowra in the
parish of Buckra Bendinni
adjoining the western boundary of stepfather Augustus
Raymond's portion 5 and eastern boundary of his brother
Angus' portion 6. By 1871 he had also selected portion
22 of 41 acres (Cat. No. 136) adjoining portion 6 thus
creating a block of three adjoining portions totaling
132 acres. It is said that at one time he had an antimony mine on
portion 22 in the parish of Buccra Bendinni 72. In 1990
Alex Gaddes wrote that like most of
the Nambucca and Bowra early selectors James Chambers
and his sons were cedar-getters. James must have later
acquired a farm at Burrapine as Gaddes recalled his
father having told him by far the biggest red cedar
tree taken from the rain forests of the Nambucca River,
with dimensions of 100 feet in length and a 24 feet
middle girth, was known as the "Chambers Tree" and
was drawn by James Chambers and sons from an area that
became known as "Chambers Scrub" situated on the James
Chambers property at Burra Burra - a locality today
known as Burrapine. Another anecdote in the Gaddes
book came from biographical notes by James Chambers'
first cousin John "Jack" Robert Bradley (1861-1952)
as follows: - " There were many wild cattle on the
river and we used to shoot them for beef. I was working
up Taylors Arm and went out with James Chambers to try
to shoot a beast. After going up river a long way I
got tired and sat down at a place called Bull Creek.
James continued up river and got amongst the cattle.
One bull came full gallop towards me and I made for
a sapling and climbed it, the bull saw me and came
straight at me, the force of the impact ripped the
sapling out by the roots; down I came and the bull jumped
over me and continued on its flight down river! That is
how Bull Creek got it name and is situated where the
antimony mines are at Taylors Arm" 66.
Glenn Bradley
noted James was publican of the Bowra Hotel for the licensing
year 1885-86. An index of The
Macleay Argus issues from 1887 to 1889 lists a
news item indicating for one or more of those years a James
Chambers was the publican of the East Kempsey Hotel. He
likely was this James as the birth of his last child Ida
was registered at Kempsey in 1887 and that year was also
the year his mother Margaret died at Kempsey.
A sketch map
by early selector Joseph Conen dated March 1875, appearing
in a booklet titled Bowraville Centenary 1875-1975,
shows by then there was a James Chambers house in
Bowraville making it the first known private dwelling
in the town. James briefly set up as a blacksmith in
Bowraville where he was living in 1879 and by 1882 the
James Chambers house and that of his uncle William Gaddes
were still the only private dwellings in the
township. 15.
Supreme Court of NSW, Registrar of Bankruptcy Insolvency
papers, list a 27 Feb 1890 bankruptcy for a James
Chambers - occupation butcher at Kempsey. 16.
Children of James Chambers and
Angusena Bradley were:
+ 20. i.
Lila Chambers
21.
ii.
James Augustus
Chambers
+ 22. iii.
William Angus Chambers
23.
iv.
Henry Percival Chambers
24.
v.
Thomas Hilton Chambers
25.
vi. John Robert Chambers
26.
vii.
Ida Chambers
3. Angus Chambers,
b. 1 Oct 1845, Dungog, NSW, Australia, chr. 12 Oct 1845,
Dungog 17; d. Nov
1869 18,
19 reg. Macleay River,
NSW, buried Backbutt Cemetery, Bowraville.
A week after
uncles William Bradley and William Gaddes selected
at Bowra on 15 Jul 1869, Angus selected on the 22nd
portion 6 of 40 acres (CP 69/2770) in the parish of
Buckra Bendinni adjoining his stepfather Augustus Raymond's
prior selection. When he died in November that year his
conditional purchase was allowed to stand in the name
of his brother James 18, 20.
It is said Angus strained his heart lifting and his
cousin Will Bradley (William Charles Bradley who later
married Catherine Dornan) rode from Bowraville to Kempsey
and back in one day and through part of the night to fetch
the doctor. The doctor could not make the trip but gave
him a bottle of medicine to bring back. However it was in vain as
Angus had died before he returned 21.
4. Jane
Chambers, b. 27 Nov 1847, Muswellbrook, NSW, Australia, chr. 30 Jan
1848 22; d. 1888
(#1888-14322)
Young, NSW. She married in 1864 (#1864-1645) reg. Young, Edward
W. J. Taylor, d. 1911 (#1911-17198) reg. Young, NSW.
Children of Jane Chambers and Edward Taylor were:
27. i. Adeline
Gertrude Taylor
+ 28. ii. Ellen Jane Taylor
29. iii. Sarah Emma
Taylor
+ 30. iv. Amelia Blanche M. Taylor
+ 31. v. Mary Elizabeth Taylor
32. vi. Edward William J.
Taylor
+ 33. vii. Lilla Jessie Taylor
+ 34. viii. Frances Charlotte M. Taylor
5.
Thomas Chambers, b. 6 Oct 1849, Muswellbrook, NSW, Australia, chr. 28 Oct
1849 23; d. 1930
(#1930-19314) Grafton, NSW. He married in 1871 (#1871-2581) at
Macleay River, NSW, Charlotte Gogerty, d. 1885 (#1885-11415)
Nambucca River, NSW, daughter of Bernard Gogerty and Charlotte.
He was likely the Thomas Chambers who was listed in the Grenville's
1872 Post Office Directory as a "farmer" at Frederickton just north of
Kempsey. In 1880 when son Bernard died he resided at Short Street
in Forest Lodge in Sydney.
Thomas Chambers (1849-1930)
Children of Thomas Chambers and Charlotte Gogerty
were:
35. i. Thomas
Chambers
36. ii. Angus
Chambers
37. iii. Annie Chambers
38. iv. Bernard
Chambers
39. v. Margaret
Chambers
40. vi. James Chambers
41. vii. George Chambers
+ 42. viii. Charlotte
Chambers
43. ix. William Chambers.
6.
Henry Clarke Chambers, b. 7 Dec
1851 72, Wagga Wagga, NSW, Australia, chr. 3
May 1852; 24.
1851 born
Henry Clarke likely died before offical registration of deaths
began in NSW in March 1856. He was not listed as a surviving
child in on his father's death registration or his mother's 1887
death registration nor was he mentioned in material lodged in
the Mitchell library in 1953 indicating he died when very young
and likely before his 5th birthday. This was also the conclusion
in the 1991 published "Mackay-McKay Family History".
A concocted
genealogy purporting to be that for Henry Clarke and a wife and
children was noted published on a web page in 2009. It was still
in place in April 2012 despite this compiler having comtacted
its' author in June 2009 who was unable to substantiate it by
reference to any record. For a detailed comment as to why that
purported genealogy as to its progenitor is patently false see
the below source footnote 74.
7. Margaret Chambers,
b. 1855 73 ; d. 1943.
She married in June 1880 (#1880-1791) Glebe, NSW, John Henry Bell.
She married in June 1880 at Ross Street, Forest Lodge according
to rites of Presbyterian Church. Her husband John's residence was
Balmain & Margaret's was given as Sydney 72.
Children of Margaret Chambers and John Henry Bell
were:
44.
Mildred Bell
8. Elizabeth Chambers, b. 26 Mar 1856 72
Yackandandah, Victoria, Australia; d. 26 Mar 1858 72
Yackandandah.
Her father's occupation at the time of her birth was miner.
The 1994 Bradley book listed her as a James & Margaret
child with no source given. No birth registration was noted
in NSW or Victoria. However the small north-east of
Victoria town of Yackandandah located between Beechworth and
Wodonga was a gold mining area. It has old gold mining areas
featuring shafts and diggings and was known for its alluvial
wet mining techniques. She was not listed as a James &
Margaret child in a tree drawn up by a Mitchell Library
librarian when cataloguing the Chambers family papers
lodged with the library in 1953.
9.
Ellen Chambers,
b. 1860 73 Victoria, Australia, d. 1 Sep 1938 (#1938-14858)
70 Petersham, NSW
(note the NSW Death Index in error has her father's name as
Thomas). She married 8 May 1880 72 (#1880-552) at
Sydney,
John Fenwick, d. 9 Jan 1931 70 at Drummoyne,
NSW, son of William and Jane Fenwick.
At the time of the marriage her husband John
Fenwick was a printer and resided at Ultimo. Ellen's residence was
given as Forest Lodge - being the residence of her twice
widowed mother Margaret Raymond.
Ellen Fenwick & children
Children of Ellen Chambers and John Fenwick were:
45. i. William
James Fenwick
46. ii. John
Henry Fenwick
47. iii. Oliver Stanley
Fenwick
48. iv. Leonard
Livingstone Fenwick
49. v. Roland
Raymond Fenwick
50. vi. Cecil Thomas
Fenwick
51. vii. Nellie V. Fenwick
52. viii. Clarence A. Fenwick
10. Jessie Chambers,
28 Jan 1862 72 at Womat, Burrangong, NSW, Australia, reg.
Binalong (#1862-5356); d. 26 Mar 1862 72 Spring Creek,
Wombat, Burrangong, buried 27 Mar.1862 72 at Young
(#1862-2791) reg. Binalong, NSW.
11. William Chambers, b. 25 Sep 1863 72
(#1863-15616)
Wombat, NSW, d. 7 Sep 1871 72. (#1871-4189) Bowra, Nambucca River,
reg. Macleay River, NSW.
At
seven years of age he was accidently killed when crushed by a falling
tree while his parents were absent at a funeral and he and same
age step-brother Edward Raymond were falling trees on their father's
farm near Bowraville. A report of the Coroner's Inquest held at his
parents house appeared in a Sydney newspaper. The NSW death
indexes (in 2012) had his father's given name incorrectly indexed as
Jacob 75.
THIRD
GENERATION
12. Thomas H. Graham, b.
1868 (#1868-6869) Young, NSW, Australia ; d. 1929 (#1929-17803) reg.
Young, NSW. He married in 1906 (#1906-5836) reg. Young, New South
Wales, Ellen Nichols (the NSW marriage index recorded her as
Nellie Nicholls).
Ellen
was perhaps the Ellen Graham who died aged 78 years on 12 Sep 1959 who
is buried in Wombat Cemetery in an unmarked grave where her burial
is listed with others on a wall mounted memorial plaque. Prima
facie she would have been the Ellen Graham whose death with her
parents given as John Frederick and Mary was registered (#1959-21286)
that year at Chatswood.
Children of Thomas H Graham and Ellen Nichols were:
53. i. George A.
Graham
54. ii. Mary M.
A. Graham
55. iii. Thomas W.
Graham
56. iv. Ruby E. Graham
57. v. John F.
Graham
13. Margaret E. Graham,
b. 1870 (#1870-19353)
Young, NSW; d. 1915 (#1915-5973) Parramatta, NSW. She married in 1898
(#1898-2162) reg. Young, Henry J. Wilson.
Children of Margaret E. Graham and Henry J. Wilson
were:
58. i. Henry J.
Wilson
59. ii. Adeline
G. Wilson
60. iii. George R.
Wilson
61. iv. Albert E. Wilson
62. v. Thomas K.
Wilson b. 1911
(#1911-23387) reg. West Wyalong, NSW.
14. George Richard
Graham, b. 1872
(#1872-20246) Young, NSW. He married in 1903 (#1903-6061) at
Gulgong, Annie
Lincoln, b. 1879 (#1879-18194) Gulgong, NSW, daughter of George
Lincoln and
Elizabeth.
Children of George Richard Graham and Annie Lincoln
were:
63. i. Elizabeth
F. Graham
64. ii. Mary I.
Graham
65. iii. Edith A.
Graham
66. iv. Ernest G. Graham
67. v. William A.
Graham
15. Mary Jane Graham,
b. 1875 (#1875-22342) Young, NSW;
d. 1959 (#1959-26477) Young, NSW. She married in 1894 (#1894-5081) at
Murrumburrah,
NSW, Alexander Thompson.
Children of Mary Jane Graham and Alexander Thompson
were:
68. i. Margueritte
Thompson
69. ii. Alexander V.
Thompson
70. iii. Alice M. Thompson
71. iv. Adeline L. Thompson
72. v. James Arthur Thompson
73. vi May
Thompson
16. Florence
Charlotte Graham, b. 1877 (#1877-23662),
Young, NSW; d. 1965 (#1965-11809) Temora, NSW. She married in 1897
(#1897-4432) at
Young, Henry Winbank, b. 1870 (#1870-19513) Young, NSW: d. 1955
(#1955-24778)
Temora, NSW, son of William Winbank and Catherine Anne.
Children of Florence Charlotte Graham and Henry
Winbank were:
74. i. Thomas
George Morris
Winbank
75. ii. Mary C.
Winbank
76. iii. Henry Cecil Winbank
77. iv. William J.
Winbank
78. v. Eileen S
Winbank
79. vi. Vernon G.
Winbank
17. Ellen Sarah Graham,
b. 1879 (#1879-26751). She
married 1900 (#1900-1662) Murrumburrah, NSW, James Arthur Lynch,
d. 1947
(#1947-12005) Murrumburrah, son of William Denis Lynch and Mary.
Children of Ellen Sarah Graham and James Arthur Lynch
were:
80. i. Raymond
Lynch
81. ii William
D. Lynch
82. iii. Mary E. Lynch
83. iv. Thomas H. Lynch
84. v. John E.
Lynch
18. Adeline Gertrude Graham,
b. 1882 (#1882-29484)
Young, NSW; d. 1969 (#1969-16325) Campsie, NSW. She married in 1906
(#1906-11558)
Young, NSW, John R. Hilder.
Children of Adeline Gertrude Graham and John R Hilder
were:
85.
John G. Hilder
19. Samuel Graham, d. 1889
(#1889-14696) Young, NSW.
20.
Lila Chambers, b.
16 Oct 1870 25, 73 Pola
Creek, Macleay River, reg. Macleay River;
d. 1958 26,
reg. Sydney. She married (1)
1894 27 reg.
Sydney, Frederick Charles Kennedy,
d.
1926 28 reg. Newtown,
NSW; son of John
Kennedy and Sarah. She married (2)
in 1939 29 at
Tingha,
NSW, Henry Trevithick, d.
1952 30 reg.
Liverpool,
NSW, son of Thomas Trevithick and Sarah.
Children of Lila Chambers and
Frederick Charles
Kennedy were:
86.
i. John F. C.
Kennedy
87.
ii. Edna I. S
Kennedy
88.
iii.
Maxwell James Kennedy
21. James Augustus Chambers,
b.
22 Dec 1872 31, 73
Bowraville, Nambucca River;
d. 1947 32 Wyong.
22. William
Angus Chambers, b.
22 Jul 1875 33, 73
Womabt near Young; d. 1942 34, Wyong;
m. 1905 35 at Maclean,
NSW, Ann M. Benson, b.
1889 65 Maclean, NSW,
daughter of William
and Margaret Benson.
Children of William Angus
Chambers and Ann M Benson
were:
89.
i. Angus F.
Chambers
90.
ii. Ronald L.
Chambers
91.
iii. Alma M Chambers
92.
iv. William E Chambers
(TWIN)
93. v.
Thomas G Chambers (TWIN)
94.
vi. Herbert H Chambers
23. Henry
Percival Chambers, b. 8 Apr 1878 36, 73 Bowra,
Nambucca River; d. 20 Dec 1879 37, 73,
Chippendale, Sydney, NSW, buried 22 Dec 1879 Necropolis Cemetery, Rookwood.
He lived almost 21 months.
Glenn Bradley in his book cited at 2 at page 133 wrote that -
"James Chambers and Angusena, frequently moved in and out
of Bowra, and on their return in 1879, Sena was not well. She
had not been well for six weeks, and directly after her arrival,
while staying with Gus Raymond, she had a miscarriage,
the dead child being a boy." The comment is puzzling as
April 1978 born Henry P. died at Chippendale in Sydney just
before Christman 1879 and his parents would not have
returned to Bowra to live until at least 1880. If accurate it
follows the child referred to was born after Henry and actually
in 1880 and must have been so premature that neither his birth
or death were registered.
24. Thomas Hilton Chambers,
b. 12 Dec 1881 38, 73
"Keletena" Macleay River, reg. Nambuuca River; d. 1962 39,
Wyong, NSW
25. John Robert Chambers,
b.
20 Jan 1884 40, 73
Bowra, Nambucca
River, NSW,Australia reg. Macleay River; d. July 1970 41, 73, Harris Park, NSW, reg.
Parramatta, NSW. He married 11 April 1921 73 at Kogarah,
NSW, Margaret Jean E Manly.
26. Ida
Chambers, b. 21 Mar 1887 42, 73,
Kempsey, NSW, Australia; d. 1953 43,
Paddington, NSW. She married in
1909 44 Sydney,
NSW, Alfred Charles Ringland,
b. 1884 ; d. March 1969 45 reg.
Balmain, NSW. There were no issue to 1918 registered in NSW.
She donated Chambers family memorabilia and photos to the
Mitchell Library in Sydney.
27 Adeline Gertrude Taylor, b. 1868
Young, NSW;
d. 1887 Cowra, NSW. She married in 1886 at Young, Thomas Hayes.
28 Ellen Jane Taylor, b. 1870 Young,
NSW; d. 1962. She married in 1886 reg. Young, Henry Whybrow,
son of Robert & Emily Amelia Whybrow.
Children of Ellen Jane Taylor and Henry Whybrow were:
95. i. Adeline
Gertrude Whybrow
96. ii. Herbert
H.
Whybrow
29. Sarah Emma Taylor, b. 1872.
30. Amelia Blanche M. Taylor,
b. 1878 Young; d. 1960
Murrumburrrah. She married 1901 Murrumburrah, James Robert Whybrow
b.1881; d. 1947 Murrumburrah.
Children of Amelia Blanche Taylor and James
Robert Whybrow were:
97. i. Hubert H.
Whybrow
98. ii. Albert C.
Whybrow
99. iii. Edward T.
Whybrow
100. iv. Edward W Whybrow
31. Mary Elizabeth Taylor, b 1879 Young.
She married in 1905
at Young, J oseph Carmichael.
Children of Mary Elizabeth Taylor and Joseph
Carmichael were:
101. i. Henry
J. Carmichael
102. ii. Alfred
C. Carmichael
103. iv. Pearl
Carmichael
104. iii. Wilfred
Carmichael
105. v. Lillian
P. Carmichael
32. Edward William J. Taylor, b. 1882
Young; d. 1911 Young.
33. Lila Jessie Taylor,
b. 1883 Young; d. 1952 Harden . She married
in 1901 at Cootamundra, William Henry Whybrow, b. 1879 Young;
d. 1963,
son of Robert Whybrow and Emily Amelia.
Chilren of Lila Jessie Taylor and William Henry
Whybrow were:
106. William
H. E. Whybrow
34. Frances Charlotte
M. Taylor, b. 1888 Young; d. 1968
Forbes. She married in 1911 at Young. Alfred G. Lemon b. 1881
Murrumburrah;
d. 1944 Grenfell, son of William and Charlotte Ann Lemon.
Children of Frances Charlotte M. Taylor and Alfred G.
Lemon were:
107. i. Iris M. Lemon
108. ii. Alfred G. Lemon
109. iii. Charlotte A. Lemon
35. Thomas Chambers, b. 1872 Macleay
River, NSW.
36. Angus Chambers, b. 1874, Young,
NSW.
37. Annie Chambers, b. 1875, Young; d.
1877 (#1877-6251) reg. Macleay River, NSW
38. Bernard Chambers, b. 1877, Macleay
River; d. Sep. 1880 76(#1880-3327)
reg. Glebe, NSW.
39. Margaret Chambers, b. 1878; d.
1879, (#1879-173) reg. Sydney, NSW.
40. James Chambers, b. 1880; d. 1880 (#1880-3406),
reg. Glebe, NSW.
41. George Chambers, b. 1882, Glebe, NSW;
d. 1964, Bulli, NSW
42. Charlotte
Chambers, b. 1883, Glebe, NSW; d. 1946 Leeton, NSW. She
married 1902 in Young, NSW, Edward. T. Magann, d. 1943, son
of James and Rose Magann.
Children of Charlotte Chambers and Edward T. Magann
were:
110. i. Cecil J.
Magann
111 ii. Thomas R.
Magann
112. iii. Mary A. Magann
113. iv. Edna
M. Magann
114. v. Alice
C. Magann
115. vi. Eric C. Magann
116. vii. John E. Magann
117. viii. Charlotte R. Magann
43. William Chambers, b. 1885, Nambucca
Heads, NSW; d. 1968, Sydney.
44. Mildred Bell, b. 1880
(#1880-5026), reg. Glebe, NSW
45. William James Fenwick, b.
1880 Glebe, NSW;
d. 1880 Glebe, NSW.
46. John Henry
Fenwick, b. 1882 Glebe, NSW;
d. 1960 Kiama, NSW. He married in 1907 at Granville, NSW, Florence
E. May.
47. Oliver Stanley Fenwick, b. 1885
Glebe, NSW; d. 1954
Kiama. He married in 1913 at Balmain, Alice E. Stewart.
48. Leonard Livingstone Fenwick, b.
1887 Glebe, NSW; d.
1948 Manly, NSW. He married in 1914 at Sydney, Annie Jesson.
49. Roland Raymond Fenwick, b. 1890
Glebe, NSW; d. 1958
Ryde, NSW. He married in 1914 at Sydney, Ellen Begbie.
50. Cecil Thomas Fenwick, b.
1892 Glebe, NSW;
d. 1953 ?. He married in 1917 at Balmain, Honorah C. O’Brien.
51. Nellie V. Fenwick, b. 1895; She
married in 1935 at
Rozelle, Arthur Watson.
52. Clarence A. Fenwick. He married in
1935 at Drummoyne, Doris M. Balmer.
FOURTH
GENERATION
53. George A. Graham, b. 1907
(#1907-5577), Murrumburrah, NSW.
54.
Mary M. Graham. b. 1909
(#1909-16701), Murrumburrah, NSW,
55. Thomas W. Graham b. 1912 (#1912-6909),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
56. Ruby E. Graham b.1914 (#1914-20753), reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW.
57. John F. Graham b. 1918 (#1916-33960),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
58. Henry J. Wilson, b. 1899 (#1899-32615),
Murrumburrah, NSW; d. 1954 Raymond Terrace, NSW.
59. Adeline G. Wilson. b. 1901 (#1901-33721),
Murrumburrah, NSW.
60. George R. Wilson, b. 1903 (#1903-23126),
Murrumburrah, NSW; d. 1967 Sydney, NSW.
61. Albert E. Wilson, b. 1906 (#1906-5687),
Murrumburrah, NSW.
62. Thomas K. Wilson b. 1911 (#1911-23387),
reg. West Wyalong, NSW.
63. Elizabeth F. Graham, b. 1904 (#1904-12592), reg.
Gulgong, NSW.
64. Mary I. Graham, b. 1906 ((#1906-24333), reg. Gulgong, NSW.
65. Edith A. Graham b. 1908
(#1908-24951), reg. Gulgong, NSW.
66. Ernest G. Graham b. 1910 (#1910-38833),
reg. Gulgong, NSW.
67. William A. Graham b. 1916
(#1916-2334), reg. Gulgong, NSW.
68. Margueritte Thompson b.
1895 (#1895-5494), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
69. Alexander V. Thompson, b. 1896 (#1896-32622), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
70. Alice M. Thompson, b. 1900
(#1900-33411), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
71. Adeline L. Thompson b. 1906
(#1906-5712), Murrumburrah, NSW.
72. James Arthur Thompson, b. 1909
(#1909-39441), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.; d. 1965 , Murrumburrah , NSW.
73. May Thompson b. 1911 (#1911-18389), reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW.
74. Thomas George Morris Winbank, b. 1897
(#1897-33369), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
75.
Mary C. Winbank, b. 1900 (#1900-14612), reg. Murrumburrah,
NSW; d. 1905.
76. Henry Cecil Winbank, b. 1903
(#1903-32215), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW: d. 1968 Goulburn, NSW.
77. William J. Winbank, b. 1906
(#1906-9812), reg.Young, NSW.
78. Eileen S Winbank b 1908 (#1908-10482),
reg.Young, NSW.
79. Vernon G. Winbank b. 1916 (#1916-20770),
reg. Temora, NSW.
80.
Raymond Lynch, b. 1902 (#1902-14433), reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW.
81.
William D. Lynch, b. 1903 (#1903-24181), reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW.
82.
Mary E. Lynch, b. 1906 (#1906-36902), reg. Murrumburrah,
NSW.
83. Thomas H. Lynch b. 1908 (#1908-37983),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW
84. John E. Lynch b. 1911 (#1911-18386) reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW
85. John
G. Hilder b. 1911 (#1911-47098) reg. Waterloo, NSW (mother indexed
as Adelaide G.)
86. John F. C. Kennedy,
b. 1894 46 Sydney,
NSW; d. 1895 47 reg.
Paddington, NSW
87. Edna I. S Kennedy,
b. 1896 48 Paddington,
NSW; d. 1898 49 reg.
Sydney, NSW
88. Maxwell James Kennedy
b. 1906 50 Paddington,
NSW; d. 1974 51; m.
1928 52 reg. Rockdale, Olga N. Hare.
89. Angus
F. Chambers b. 1905 53,
Maclean, NSW.
90. Ronald L. Chambers b. ca. 1907 54,
Maclean,
NSW; d. 1907 55,
Maclean, NSW
91. Alma
M Chambers, b. 1908 56 reg. Murrumburrah, NSW; m.
1933 57
Maclean, Eric W Stokes.
92. William
E Chambers (TWIN) b. 1910 58 reg. Maclean, NSW;
d. 1911 59
Glebe, NSW.
93. Thomas G Chambers (TWIN) b. 1910 60 reg.
Maclean, NSW; d.
1911 61
Glebe, NSW.
94. Herbert Henry Chambers, b. 1911 62 reg.
Sydney, NSW; d. 1972 63 Lismore, NSW; m.
1934 64
Maclean, Phyllis M
Merchant.
95. Adeline Gertrude Whybrow, b. 1893
(#1893-40062), reg. Young, NSW.
96. Herbert H. Whybrow, b. 1895
(#1895-24626), reg. Murrrumburrah, NSW.
97. Hubert H. Whybrow, b. 1905 (#1905-35561), reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW.
98. Albert C. Whybrow b. 1907 (#1907- 15764), reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW.
99. Edward T. Whybrow b. 1910
(#1910-17274) reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
100. Edward W Whybrow b. 1913 (#1913-7480) reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW .
101. Henry J. Carmichael, b. 1905 (#1905-29945),
reg.Young, NSW; d. 1973 Burwood, NSW.
102. Alfred C. Carmichael, b. 1906 (#1906-30850),
reg. Young, NSW.
103.
Pearl Carmichael, d. 1911, Young, NSW.
104. Wilfred Carmichael, d. 1923, Young, NSW.
105. Lillian P. Carmichael b. 1912 (#1912-52537)
reg. Young, NSW.
106.
William
H. E. Whybrow b. 1904
(#1904-5139), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
107.
Iris M. Lemon b. 1914 (#1914-11305), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW
108. Alfred G. Lemon b. 1916 (#1916-5925) reg.
Murrumburrah, NSW
109. Charlotte A. Lemon b. 1918 (#1918-18755) reg.
Murrumburrah
110. Cecil J. Magann TWIN, b. 1904 (#1904-24419),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
111. Thomas R. Magann TWIN, b. 1904
(#1904-24420), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
112. Mary A. Magann, b. 1906 (#1906-35570),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
113.
Edna M. Magann, b. 1907 (#1907-37613), reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
114. Alice C. Magann, d. 1909 (#1909-5989),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
115. Eric C. Magann, b. 1910 (#1910-17261),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
116. John E. Magann b. 1912 (#1912-31804),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
117. Charlotte R. Magann b. 1915 (#1915-5465),
reg. Murrumburrah, NSW.
SOURCES:
1
Birth year of 1811 based on age 53 given in NSW Death Index
for his Young, NSW death registration - i.e. if correct indicating
a birth before 18.7.1811). Macclesfield in Cheshire in England.
Maclesfield place of birth is as given in the record of his 30 Sept.
1850 11th regiment army discharge in the regiment's Muster Roll
for Sept. 1850 (AJCP reel #3708). Cheshire was given as county of
birth in both his 1841 church parish marriage record and 1864
death regisration. His 1812 St. Michael, Macclesfield christening
date and parent's names are as per the IGI, supported by other
records as detailed below in source footnote #71.
NOTE: his parents names were not given by the
informant for his 1864 death registration. Contradictory to
Macclesfield in Cheshire being his birth place is a suggestion,
not considered reliable as thought likely theresult of a mix-up
of his record with that of another person, that his attestation
at the time of army enlistment in 1831 may have had his birth
place and the place of enlistment as Huddersfield in West
Yorkshire located about 42 kilometres north of Macclesfield.
2 Glenn Bradley,
When the river was the road,
1994, p. 118 - James Chambers date of death given as 17 Jul 1864 (NSW Death
Index #1864-3112 - died Young, NSW, aged 53 years (Note: as the index
had the age at death it signifies the informant was not able to
provide the names of either parent).
p. 116 has
3 Nov 1841 as date of the James Chambers/Margaret Mackay marriage
and that date has been adopted in this compilation. Elsewhere a date
of 8 Nov 1841 has been noted (3 and 8 in indistinct handwriting appear
similar). They conflict with the date of 10 Dec 1841 given in the mounted
police Defaulters Book as being when James committed the offense
of marrying without the approval of the commandant - a date
that was clearly incorrrect. The marriage is not indexed in the NSW
Marriage Index. The church parish record gave Paterson and not Dungog
as the marriage place and recorded that James was a native of Cheshire
and a resident of Dungog - another listed on the same page in the same
handwriting recorded the marriage Margaret Mackay's sister Elizabeth
to William Bradley - him a native of Edinburgh and resident of Dungog
having taken place on 10 Aug 1840 at Dungog (copy provided by Karen
Dimond).
3
Glen Bradley op. cit. p. 96 -
"Baptism: 1 December 1820 -- Angus Mackay, furniture dealer, and
his spouse, Jane Clark, had a daughter, named Margaret baptised by
Reverend Mr. Doig, in the presence of George Mackay a labourer and
Robert Calder, carter. (ED. note - Rev. Robert Doig was one of the ministers
of Aberdeen and married Angus Mackay & Jane of St. Nicholas,
Aberdeen, on 26 Mar 1815 in his house. Presumably the church
where the baptism occurred was the Galic Chapel, in Galic
Lane, as that was where Murdock Mackay married in 1823).
Margaret Mackay's age was given as 17 in two lists of government
immigrants aboard the James Moran that departed Lochinvar on 10 Oct 1838
and arrived at Sydney on 11 Feb 1839 - see Assisted (Bounty)
Immigrants 1839, AONSW reel #1303 & reel #2654 for the
post arrival disposal statistics. These records listed
her father Angus as aged 40 at the 10 Oct 1838 embarkation
and that he was initially employed by the Government as a
carpenter at a wage of £2 per week.
The immigration
record indicated Margaret was to turn 17 on 4 Dec 1838
which appears in error as means she would have
been born 4 Dec 1821 which conflicts with the claimed 1 Dec
1820 christening date given in the cited Bradley book?
One has to wonder if the christening record as claimed in
the book is entirely factual as at p. 96 the book also
claimed her age in the James Moran passenger list
was 19 whereas in fact it was clearly listed in two places
in the immigration records as 17. In those records her elder
sister Elizabeth was listed as aged 18 on embarkation and
on a list of immigrants dated the day after arrival in
Sydney her age was given as 19. Based on an age of 17 at
embarkation on 10 Oct 1838, rather than the alternative
of a 4 Dec 1838 birth, it follows Margaret was born between
11 Oct 1820 and 10 Oct 1821 which is consistent with the
claimed christening date of 1 Dec 1820. Thus it has been
concluded, if the christening record is accurate, she was
born in Oct. or Nov. 1820.
4
NSW Marriage Index
#1867-2289 - the date is as given in Glenn Bradley op. cit. at
p. 118. (ED. a slightly different date of 19 Nov. was noted
elsewhere).
5
AJCP
War Office (WO) 12 microfilm reel #3696 - on the 4th Reg't. Pay &
Muster roll for June Qtr. 1831 he was listed under the regimental
number 901, enlistment date as 22 Mar 1831, place of enlistment
as Liverpool, age as 18 (indicating an 1812 birth), height 5' 6½",
and that the 3rd part of the bounty was paid to the recruit
in the amount of £2.10.0 & his pay commenced from
24 Apr 1831. On reel #3697, the roll for the quarter 1 Oct 1832
to 31 Dec 1832, he was listed as "on board" the Parmelia to
19 Nov 1832. Details of that vessel's arrival at Sydney on 16
Nov etc. are as given in the Sydney Gazette of 19 Nov
1832.
The 4th's Pay & Muster rolls (reel #3697) for the months
of Nov. & Dec 1834, the first two quarters of 1835, and
the first two months of Sept. Qtr. 1835, listed him as "Foot
Police". The roll for the month of Sept. 1835 was the first
to list him as "Mounted Police". So for the first 10 months
from secondment to the military police he was classed as in
the foot police before officially classed as a mounted
trooper.
He was listed in the 4th's Pay &
Muster Roll for Sept. Qtr. 1837 (reel #3882) before its
departure for India, as having been transferred effective
1 Aug 1837 to the 80th Reg't which had arrived in the colony
a few months previous and on whose rolls he was subsequently
listed with the regimental number 1447 (on a couple of occasions
as 1478). When the practice of separately listing a regiment's
supernumeraries who were attached to the mounted police
he was listed in that section of its Pay & Muster Rolls
followed the listing of the regiment's private soldiers. When
the last of the 80th Reg't embarked for India on 11 Aug 1844
it's roll for 1 July to 11 August 1844 listed him in the
supernumeraries section but there no notation of the date and
name of the regiment to which the supernumeraries were transferred.
The 11th, where he ended up after his discharge from the mounted
police, did not arrive in NSW until mid 1845. In its' Pay
& Muster rolls his regimental number was 2641, and although
discharged from the mounted police in Nov 1849, his name was
not listed as an "effective" in that regiment's roll for Dec.
Qtr. 1849 (reel #3707). However from 1 January 1850 he was
listed in its' rolls for the first 9 months of 1850 as being "on
furlough awaiting discharge" and as paid by it from 1 January.
His discharge date was recorded as 30 Sept. 1850 in
the Sept. Qtr. 1850 roll (reel #3708). That record gave
the same date of enlistment of 22 Mar 1831 as had been given
in 4th's roll for June Qtr. 1831. It gave his occupation at
enlistment as labourer, birth place as Macclesfield, and place
of discharge as Sydney. At all times in the rolls for the 4th,
80th & 11th he was listed as not holding a rank.
The
Mounted Police nominal roll at 31 Mar 1848 listed him as
a "trooper" and gave his date of joining the Mounted Police
as 1 Nov. 1834 (AONSW reel #2901). The Defaulters Book 1839-1850
(AONSW reel #2901) listed his 4th Regt. enlistment date as
25 Mar 1831. However it is considered a transcription error - the
more likely date being that of the 22 March given in two places
in the Pay & Muster Rolls.
Details
of army & mounted police service of James Chambers given
on this web
page are said to have come from research by David Murphy
into the mounted police from its' creation in 1825 under
Governor Brisbane up to 1850 and the Governor's Body Guard from
1801 to 1834 etc., that were donated by the researcher to
NSW State Records, where held under the title "The New South
Wales Mounted Police 1825-1850" and reference 363.MUR. However
the data given for James Chambers on this web page is
obviously in error in respect of the claim his birth place
and place of 4th Reg't enlistment was Huddersfield. In fact
as per the 4th & 11th Reg't Pay & Muster Rolls,
it was respectively Macclesfield and Liverpool. Also in error
is that his army rank was not as stated on the web page a
Lance-Corporal at the time he joined the military police
force on 1 Nov 1834 but in fact as per the Pay & Muster
Rolls he was at all times a "private". Also the 11th Reg't ay &
Muster Rolls contain nothing to confirm the claim
on the web page he was discharged from the army on medical
grounds, although 13 years previous when in the mounted
police the rolls did record he spent 88 days of the 92 days
of Dec. quarter 1836 in the general hospital or the
regimental hospital. That he was fit enough to join the
civilian police after his army discharge suggests otherwise
although that he was on furlough from the regiment for at
least the nine months prior to his discharge at least raises
a query as to the reason for such a long leave period on
full pay as does his discharge without purchase 6 months
before he completed the 20 year minimum service period?
However it is possible the slightly premature discharge
without purchase was in his case allowed because he had
secured a position in the civilian police. As the relevant
records and David Murphy's research have not been sighted
by the compiler it has been assumed the claim on the page
he was in the Governor's Body Guard in 1834 after joining
the military police is correct - but it may not be.
6
Glenn Bradley op. cit.,
p.p. 117-118 - no source for the 30 Sep 1851 resignation date
was cited. It may have been corro in the Registers of Colonial
Secretary Letters Received for 1851 (AONSW reel #2939). The
fact of his resignation about that time is confirmed by a
notice in the Government Gazette of 14 Nov 1851 of the
appointment of William A. Hines as his successor as Chief
Constable at Wagga Wagga.
Unfortunately with a few exceptions information in the Bradley
book re James Chambers and family is considered incorrect or
garbled. James did not purchase as claimed in the book lots 13
and 21 in Trail Street - he purchased only allotment number 13
which was listed in the subsequent gazette notice as item #21.
The military mounted police were not disbanded as claimed
in 1848 - the decision to disband the force was not even taken
until 1849 and it was not completely disbanded until 31 Dec 1851 -
the date by which the remaining members were ordered to report
at Sydney (see - John S. O'Sullivan, NSW Mounted Police,
Rigby, Adelaide, 1978). In saying the mounted police was
disbanded in 1848 Bradley implied James would have have
been discharged that year. However another source, said to
be based on research by David Murphy into the mounted police
today held by NSW State Records, gives his date of discharge
from the mounted police as 1 Nov 1849 - the same year the
Bradley book says he joined the civilian police in the month
of December. December 1849 would accord with a 1 Nov 1849
discharge date. However as by then he had not served the
20 years required of a British Army soldier he would normally
after taking any leave due, and unless permitted to buy his
way out for the usual sum of £20,, would have returned
to the 11th regiment in which he was a supernumerary.
In contradiction of the book's claim he joined the civil police
in Dec. 1849 is that the 11th regiment's quarterly Pay and Muster
Rolls show him as on its effective strength, and paid as a soldier
with the rank of private for the full nine months from 1 Jan 1850
until discharged from the army on 30 Sep. 1850 although he
was listed during that interim period as "on furlough awaiting
discharge". So for some two and a half months (18 Jul 1850
to 30 Sep 1850) he was seemingly in receipt of two lots of pay -
one as a soldier in the 11th and the other as the Chief Constable
at Wagga Wagga. However it seems unlikely he would have
been receiving two lots of pay for the full 9 months to 30
September!
7
Ibid - the
1994 published Bradley book did not claim it was a fact that
James' name was connected with the naming of Chambers' Creek
where it said he had discovered a "rich" gold field and a town
with that name was established - merely that it was "reputed".
Although no source for this amazing claim was cited it would
be no more than a repetition of an identical unsupported by
documentation claim understood made in the Chambers family
papers deposited in the Mitchell Library 41 years previously
by James Chambers granddaughter Ida Ringland (1887-1853).
The
complier considers it is definitely not correct that the
creek and town were named after James. Also the town,
of which nothing remains today, was not as stated by
Glenn Bradley named Chambers' Creek but in fact was
named Chambers. Bradley also incorrectly asserted,
worded as if it were a fact, that "Chambers Creek" once
had a population of 20,000!
Frankly
the three claims are considered preposterous. The
purported population was obviously just a
repetition on an inadequately researched
claim made by an L. Ward in an article in
the Sydney Morning Herald of 17 June 1939 in which the
writer said when recently in the area he had noted of the once
town site that not even a brick or suggestion of a wall
remained! If the 20,000 population had been correct it would
have made this small creek that ceased to run in dry springs
and summers at the height of mining activity there in
1872-73 the second largest population center in the colony
with a population one seventh the 1872 approx. 140,000
population of Sydney & suburbs - all on about 40 acres
beside a small creek surrounded by some very rocky and rough
country indeed! Nearby Hill End was the main center that
supplied the services to the Tambaroora Gold Field area in
which the Chambers' Creek leases were located with the
Chambers' Creek area being in the nature of a suburb. For
the licensing year 1872-73 it was said Hill End had 28 hotels
of the goldfield's total of 52. In respect of Chambers Creek
a 1999 published book titled A Glint of Gold by Kerrin
Cook and Daniel Garvey (p. 282) stated that following the
finding of gold there in 1871 miners flocked to creek in their
"hundreds" - note not thousands. If the Herald's roving
article writer had claimed a peak population during the 1871-72
mania of one tenth the 20,000 that at least would have made
some sense! What likely happened is when the article writer
upon his return to Sydney, and called at the Mines Department
to enquire about Chambers Creek mining history before writing
the short "Ghost Chimney" article, and was told no records
existed prior to 1871, it was mentioned by the clerk that for
a period in the early 1870s the area had once had a population
of 20,000 and he took that to mean it was the population of
Chambers and Chambers' Creek instead of the whole Tambaroora
goldfield or that of the area of Hill End and the nearly
settlements such as Chambers! The Cook & Garvey book said
a township was laid out there with several allotments sold, 3
hotels sprang up, and because there was no cemetery the
graves of the only two who died there (two little girls) lie
on the slope of a hill.
This account has it that
early in 1873 the Globe Company installing a crushing machine
there to which the local mines sent their stone - with all
ore previously having been transported to Hill End or
Sofala for crushing and some even sent to Sydney. However much
lower than expected concentrations of gold in the stone
caused the shareholders in the various mines to panic (for
example the Bismark touted in its prospectus its field would
yield 300 grains of gold per ton of ore crushed but it was
actually achieving about 11 grains when at that time a yield
of 100 to 125 grains - being one fifth to a quarter of a troy
ounce - was the minimum necessary for a mine to be payable).
The result was the miners left the area in droves, with
machinery seized to pay outstanding debts, and the Chambers
village became deserted with mining at the creek not
recommencing until later in 1873 following the floatation in
London of the Sir John Moore Gold Mining Company with a
capital of £100,000 when several smaller claims there
also restarted mining. However it was said that by October
1874 virtually all work had again stopped.
According to A Glint of Gold
the naming history of the creek was published in a book by
Harry Hodge on the mining history of the Hill End area
titled The Hill End Story vol. 1. The history was
that quartz gold was first found alongside the creek in 1871
and claims were then established on three lines of reef named -
the General Bourke, the Nuggety and the Kurrajong - the latter
being the one nearest to the Macquarie River. Implying its
source was the Hodge book, the book stated the creek was
named after Mr. Chambers who held one of the claims on the
Nuggety Lead in partnership with Cooksons with the other
fourteen claim holders on the Nuggety reef having been - Bell
& Macartney, Icely Smelters, John Bull, Allen's, Toms,
Burford & Yeo, Burns, Hunt, Schroder, Lester, Piggott,
Burfitt, Brooke, and Bailey & Dargin. Harry Hodge was
a lifetime resident of the Hill End area whose grandfather
had arrived there in 1852, and his books detail the mining
history of the Hill End - Tambaroora goldfields. The first
of the two bearing the title The Hill End Story were
published in 1964 in a limited edition of 500 and both in
new editions in 1980.
The rush
to the Turon began
in June '51 only a few weeks after the rush to the Ophir
began. On 4 Jul 1851 the Government Geologist was reported
in the Argus as suggesting the great bar in the
Macqaurie at Walgumbulla (or Wallgumbulla), three miles below
its junction with the Turon, was a prospective site for the
finding of alluvial gold. By the time James Chambers resigned
from the police on 30 Sep 1851 the banks of the Turon were
already heavily populated with miners. On 13 Aug. 1851 the
Sydney Morning Herald reported - "The banks of the
Turon River are occupied from near its source to its junction
with the Macquarie, a distance of upwards of 100 miles." On
the 29th Sept. 1851 it reported - "We have recently been
informed by those who have traversed the Turon from one end
of the diggings to the other, who have pioneered and prospected
the creeks in the neighbourhood, who have visited the heights
and the gullies, that the population there for the present
month has been estimated as high as 16,000, and that the
lowest estimate formed is 9000 persons". Nine months later
on 15 July 1852, specifically re the area south of the
Macquarie-Turon junction where Chambers Creek joins the
Macquarie, it reported - "The digging grounds on the Macquarie
below the junction, are turning out very well ...". Three
weeks later on 7 Aug 1852 it was more specific - reporting -
"On the Macquarie, a little below the junction of the Turon,
parties are making 9 ozs. gold per day. The diggers are in
high spirits with the prospect this field opens out to them,
and astonishing results are expected as soon as the season
will admit of its being properly worked."
In
addition to the daily
metropolitan newsapers of the day, many of which are increasingly
becoming available and searchable online, a source for
further information on gold mining activity in the area
during the lifetime of James Chambers would be the 28 May
1851 to 1862 issues of Bathurst Free Press and Mining
Journal held on microfilm by the State Library of
NSW (ref. RAV/FM4/353). At the time of compilation the
earliest newspaper mention of Chambers Creek entering the
Tambaroora goldfield mining picture noted was in the 14 Oct
1871 issue of The Sydney Mail viz: "The line of reef
which, as we have before stated, extended from Green Valley
on the north, to the Turon River on the south, or a distance
of about eight miles, has now been traced southerly to
Chambers' Creek, ten miles further on, the country showing
all the same peculiarity of feature which marks the line on
the table land". Thus this report confirms the accounts in
the two cited books that quartz gold was not discovered
at the creek until 1871.
8
Glenn
Bradley, op. cit., p. 118.
9
Nancy
Mackay Edge, Our Highland Heritage: Angus McKay of
Sutherland, 1988. In 2008 copies were still available from:
Mrs. N. M. Edge, 7 Laurel Av., Edgeworth, NSW, 2285. Ph.
(02) 4958 3221. The catalogue of the Macksville, NSW,
library listed a not for loan copy and a one is held
by the Bowraville Folk Museum.
10 NSW BDM Index
- Baptism #V1844-477-162A
11 Ibid Death
#1913-12231
12 Ibid
Marriages #1869-2618
13 Ibid
Deaths #1923-16913
14 Glenn Bradley, op. cit., p. 133
15 Norma
Townsend, Valley of
the crooked river,
1993,
p.
126 citing
as source for the names of the two householders - de Milham
to Post Master General, 15 September 1882, Post Office File,
Bowraville, 1869-89, Australian Archives.
16 Ibid, James Chambers
bankruptcy date 27 Feb 1890 2132/2; 10/22625. See also listed in NSW
State Records online
Bankruptcy Index giving occupation as a butcher at Kempsey.
17 Baptisms #V1845-500-48
(father's occpation given as "mounted police").
18 Norma Townsend, op. cit., p.
235 - see transfers CP 69/2770
19 NSW BDM Index - Deaths
#1869-4350. For November
as month see - Norma Townsend op. cit. p.p. 59, 60.
20
Norma Townsend, op. cit.,
p.p.
59,
60.
21 Glenn
Bradley, op. cit., p. 33
22 Baptism
#V1847-1081-49 (father's occupation given as "mounted policeman").
23 Ibid #V1849-512-50
(father's occupation given as "trooper").
24 Ibid #V1851-1175-51
(father's occupation given as "miner").
25 NSW BDM Indexes Births
#1870-11946
26 Ibid Deaths #1953-16630
27 Ibid
Births #1894-869
28 Ibid Deaths #1926-4911
29 Ibid
Marriages #1939-15120
30 Ibid Deaths #1952-8815
31
Ibid
Births #1873-12804
32 Ibid
Deaths #1947-12575
33 Ibid
Births #1875-22483
34 Ibid
Deaths #1942-23848
35 Ibid
Marriages #1905-4466
36 Ibid
Births #1878-15329
37 Ibid
Deaths #1879-2197
38 Ibid
Births #1882-20514
39 Ibid
Deaths #1962-10167
40 Ibid
Births #1884-23840
41 Ibid
Deaths #1970-33165
42 Ibid
Births #1887-25884
43 Ibid
Deaths #1953-26828
44 Ibid
Marriages #1909-10283
45 Ibid
Births #1884-5071
46 Ibid
Births #1894-2653
47 Ibid
Deaths #1895-5862
48 Ibid
Births #1896-6207
49 Ibid
Deaths #1898-8039
50 Ibid
Births #1906-37735
51 Ibid Deaths #1974-8193
52 Ibid
Marriages #1928-11359
53 Ibid
Births #1905-34782
54 Ibid
Births #1907-4825
55 Ibid
Deaths #1907-5455
56 Ibid
Births #1908-27013
57 Ibid
Marriages #1933-2705
58 Ibid
Births #1910-16448
59 Ibid Deaths #1911-1372
60 Ibid
Births #1910-16447
61 Ibid Deaths #1911-1370
62 Ibid
Births #1911-36258
63 Ibid Deaths #1972-64835
64 Ibid
Marriage #1934-9394
65
Ibid Births #1889-17935
66
Alex S. Gaddes,
Red cedar Our Heritage, 1990. p. p. 59, 60. - In
respect of the ownership of the mentioned Burra Burra
farm the author must have confused James Chambers Jnr.
with his father James Snr. who he said was a prospector
who it was said had started a gold rush at place that was later
named Chambers' Creek. He wrote James Snr. suffered an injury
and some years later died at Young leaving his widow Margaret
on his Burra Burra farm where she was living when she met
and married Augustus Raymond. However as James Snr. died
in July 1864 at Wombat near Young two months before the
first selection occurred anywhere on the Nambucca it was
impossible before his death for him to have had a farm at
Burra Burra that later became known as Burrapine. Burrapine
is situated at the junction of Taylors Arm Creek and Sheet
O'Bark Creek at least 20 kilometers SW of Bowraville and
about 12 kilometers north of Taylors Arm. Up there no
land would have been selected until into the 1870s so there
was no way as claimed by Alex Gaddes that James' widow
Margaret was living on his "farm" there when she met and
married Augustus Raymond in July 1867 at Macleay River.
It is just a pure fiction - an incorrect assumption presented
as a fact. The 1867 marriage record in fact stated Margaret's
usual address was Murrumburra which is 19 miles SE of Wombat
where her first husband Janes died. Very likely Margaret
Chambers met Augustus Raymond at Macleay River where from
at least 1856 he was living at Pola Creek when she either
staying at Macleay River with her eldest son James Jr.
or visiting her sisters Elizabeth Bradley and Jane
Gaddes. Her sister Elizabeth's husband William Bradley
was a witness to the 1867 marriage to Augustus. Norma
Townsend, op. cit p.p. 59, 60, had access to the
Kempsey Court House BDM registration records and noted
Margaret's son James Chambers Jr. was farming at Macleay
River when he married in 1869 so presumably he was also
there farming in 1867 when his mother married Augustus.
There is no evidence before his 1864 death that James
Chambers Snr. had any involvement whatsoever with
either the Macleay or Nambucca Rivers or James Jnr. had
any involvement with the Nambucca district before he
selected portion 21 of 51 acres in Buckra Bendinni
parish in 1869 just west of the village of Bowra (later and
today named Bowraville) adjoining his brother's portion
6 that in turn adjoined their father-in-law Augustus Raymond's
portion 5 - all selected in 1869.
The John Robert
Bradley anecdote re the naming of Bull Creek is at p.
105 in the book.
67
As soldiers on secondment from a British regiment mounted
police troopers and their NCO's were subject to military
discipline. As with a cavalry regiment, in the mounted police
the punishment of being "dismounted" for a period was not
uncommon. In addition to marrying without prior permission
the defaulter's book recorded it as a punishment imposed, alone or in
addition to another penalty, for offenses such as:
- disrespect to an NCO, being drunk, being
absent from barracks all night, absence from a Tatoo, when
acting as stableman being absent from the stables, ill-using
of a horse, having a horse or barracks in bad order etc. In
one case it was noted imposed three times consecutively as
a penalty on trooper Isiah Barker - firstly in Nov. 1840 for
the same offense as James Chambers of getting married without
liberty, then again four months later for being drunk and
allowing a prisoner in his charge to get drunk, and then
for the third time in March 1842 for being drunk and
assaulting an old man in Parramatta. They were the only
three offenses recorded for this trooper.
Over
90 names were listed in
the 1839-1850 Defaulter's Book - each on a separate page
with in one case the number of offenses committed (15 of
which were for drunkenness) requiring two pages. Some of the
other punishments ordered were:- forfeiture of pay for up to a
month, confinement to barracks, confinement in the cells
or in a civilian goal (such as Berrima), solitary confinement
with or without hard labour, up to 7 days marching drill,
stoppage of the grog ration for from 7 to 14 days. For some
offenses a trooper was just admonished or forgiven. In
less than a handful of instances was the offender reported
to His Excellency the Governor and ordered to re-join his
regiment.
A punishment, of particular
interest due to a relevance to James Chambers who at the
time it was committed was about to get married and would have
needed money to purchase a wedding ring, also noted as
the most serious punishment ordered during the 11 years
covered by the Defaulter's Book, was a 13 months sentence of
imprisonment with hard labour imposed on trooper John Riddell
for on 5 Sep. 1841 having through neglect lost the pay for the
mounted police detachment at Dungog where James was
serving and where not long after he married.
68
K. Swan, A History of Wagga Wagga, 1970, pp. 34-54.
69
He died Sunday 14 Oct 1894 although it is understood the death certificate
gave thedate as the 15th. Contradictory to him having been born
as stated on 28 Jan 1795 (as sourced to the date in his army enlistment)
are the James Moran
immigration records that in two places gave his age as 40 at
embarkation on 10 Oct 1838 (i.e. born between 11 Oct 1797
and 10 Oct 1798).
70 The
following Sydney Morning Herald notices provided courtesy
of John Henry Fenwick descendant Gordon Fenwick
10 Jan 1931 p. 11 DEATHS - FENWICK - January 9, 1931 at
his residence, 4 Therry-street, Drummoyne, John, dearly
beloved husband of Ellen, and loving father of John, Stanley,
Leonard, Roland, Cecil, Nellie and Clarence.
10 Jan 1931 p. 11 FUNERAL - FENWICK The Relatives and Friends
of Mr. and Mrs. J. H. FENWICK and FAMILY, Mr. and Mrs. S. FENWICK,
Mr. and Mrs. R. FENWICK and FAMILY, Mr. and Mrs. C. FENWICK
and FAMILY, Mr. ClLARENCE FENWICK, and Miss N. FENWICK are
invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved FATHER,
FATHER-IN-LAW, and GRANDFATHER. John FENWICK: to leave 4
Therry-street, Drummoyne, THIS SATURDAY, at 3.15 p.m. for
Church of England Cemetery, Field of Mars. Motor Funeral.
10 Jan 1931 p. 11 FENWICK - The Relatives and Friends of
Mrs. D. HOPKINS and FAMILY are invited to attend the Funeral
of their beloved BROTHER and UNCLE, John Fenwick: to leave
...WOOD COFFILL LIMITED
2 Sep 1938 p. 9 DEATHS - FENWICK - September 1, 1938
at her residence 4 railway Street, Petersham, Ellen Fenwick,
widow of the late John Fenwick of Drummoyne, aged 75 years.
At Rest.
2 Sep 1938 p. 9 FUNERAL - FENWICK - The Relatives
and Friends of Mr and Mrs JOHN FENWICK, Mr and Mrs STANLEY
FENWICK, Mr and Mrs LEONARD FENWICK, Mr and Mrs ROLAND FENWICK,
Mr and Mrs CECIL FENWICK and Mr ARTHUR WATSON and FAMILIES
are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of their dearly
loved MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER. Ellen Fenwick: to leave her
late residence 4 Railway Street, Petersham, THIS Friday
AFTERNOON, at 2 o'clock for Church of England Cemetery,
Field of Mars. - J. J. CROCKETT and CO PTY LTD, Leichhardt.
71 As per 1
above the James Chambers birth place was Macclesfield in
Cheshire in England as given in the 11th regiment's Pay &
Muster Roll for Sept. 1850 (AJCP reel #3708) record of his 30 Sept.
1850 army discharge. Sources for the 6 Nov 1806 marriage
of his father James Chambers to Mary Brocklehurst are LDS Church
compilations that in 2012 were titled - "Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts,
1598-1900" index and "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000".
Their children baptism sources were LDS Church compilations
for - (1) Betty "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000",
(2) Thomas "Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900", (3) James
both Parish Registers and Bishops Transcripts, and (4) Jane same as
James plus "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975".
A possible Elizabeth (aka Betty) marriage was to Samuel
Stone on 16 Dec 1832 at 'Mottram in Longdendale' in Cheshire -
Mottram is located about 23 kilometres from Macclesfield. Also
in Mottram a possible was that of a Jane Chambers on 24 Feb 1840
to Robert Hutchinson who was aged 24. Another possible for Jane
in Cheshire (no town given) was on 24 Feb 1840 to James Bain.
Note - the titles of the compilations given above may change
in the future - for current compilation titles see the LDS Church
web site.
72 Mackay-McKay Family History
(published 1991).
73 As
per email advices in Apr 2012 and certificates from James Chambers Jr. (1844-1913)
descendant Karen Dimond.
74
It was noted in February 2009, claimed in an online Chambers family
genealogy compilation
that provided no source citations, that Henry Clarke Chambers
was Henry Chambers who married Hannah Jane Langley at
Rylestone in NSW in 1879 who between 1880 and 1890 had
seven children whose births were registered as - Charlotte Frances,
Henry James, Edith, Albert Cecil, Herbert E, an unnamed son, and
Septimus John Everett. However when the web site author Joanne
Mackay was requested by the compiler in June 2009 to substantiate
the claim that this Henry Chambers was in fact Henry Clarke Chambers
by advising him of proof from either his death or marriage
registration nothing was forthcoming. The author very obviously
had nothing to substantiate what on her part was merely an
unwarranted supposition being presented to readers as a fact.
According to Commonwealth
Electoral Rolls for the Robertson electorate, the Henry Chambers
who married Hannah Langley was a coachman at the Henry Charles
White owned the "Havilah" east of Mudgee, and his eldest son
Henry James a groom there. Next born son Albert Cecil was a boundary
rider at Pipeclay near Mudgee and the last born son Septimus lived
and worked in that area and at Rylestone. Son-in-law Frederick Meers
likely also worked on the same property. Both this Henry Chambers
and his eldest son Henry James died only seven weeks apart in
1919 (reg. # 20501 & 20531) presumably during the world-wide flue
pandemic, with the son being the first on 15 July 1919 . This Henry's
death registration provided neither of his parent's names. It gave
his age as 75 years calculating to an 1843 to 1844 birth year.
However his cemetery headstone,
that gave his death date as 3 Sep 1919, had his age as 65 years
calculating to a ca. 1854 birth year which was likely the more
correct as it gave him the same birth year as wife Hannah who
according to her death registration died at Buckaroo about 10
kilometres NE of Mudgee also with no parent names provided.
Her DOD was 23 Feb 1931 and the death registration record
had the same age of 77 years as that on her cemetery headstone
calculating to a ca. 1854 birth year.
December 1851
born Henry Clarke would have been 67 and not 65 when Henry of
"Havilah" died in 1919. So without Henry of Havilah's parent
names, age and birthplace (obtainable from his 1879 marriage
registration record), which obviously had not been consulted,
the claim he was James and Margaret's son has no foundation
whatsoever and is very obviously just supposition. Apart from
the marriage record the only relevant record would be the death
registration of Henry Sr. of Havilah. To be indicative he was
as claimed actually 1851 born Henry Clarke his birth place
would need to be listed in the record as Wagga Wagga!
75
The Sydney Morning Herald, 21 Sep 1871, KILLED BY
THE FALL OF A TREE - The Macleay Herald reports
that on Saturday last the Coroner (Captain Thornton) held an
inquest at the house of Mr. Augustus Raymond, at Nambuccca
River, on the body of a child named William Chambers, lying
dead at the residence of Mr. Raymond. The following evidence
was taken:- Angusena Chambers deposed: I am the wife of James
Chambers, and reside at the Nambucca River : about 1 o'clock on
the 7th instant I heard the cries of Mr. Raymond's son, and on
going to see what was the matter I found the deceased lying on his
face under a tree ; he was quite dead ; the child that was crying
said that they were falling trees, and as the deceased was running
away it fell upon him ; the child that was with the deceased is eight
years old, and does not know the nature of an oath, the deceased
would be eight years old on the 25th of this month : his parents
had gone to a funeral, and the rest of the family were at the river
washing, about fifty yards from the house : there were no men about
the place, and I sent for Mr. Hammon, who came and removed the
body. Thomas Hammon deposed : I reside at Mr. Malony's, near
Mr. Raymond's ; between 1 and 2 o'clock on the 7th instant two
boys came to me, and asked me to take their brother from under
a tree ; on going to the spot I found the tree upon part of the body :
I got a lever and removed the tree, and Mrs. Chambers took the
body out : it was quite dead ; I then removed it to the house.
Augustus Raymond deposed : I am a farmer, residing on the
Nambucca River ; the deceased was my stepson ; I was absent at
a funeral when the occurence happened ; I examined the body,
and found the back of the head broken in ; the chest was smashed
in, and his legs bruised all over : death must have been almost
instantaneous : the tree is about twelve inches in diameter, and
about thirty feet long. The jury returned a verdict to the effect that
the deceased, was accidently killed by the falling of a tree. (NOTE:
The Macleay Herald began publication in the same year
of 1864 as occurred the highest and most disasterous flood
in the history of the river since the white settlement in Australia.
Prior to ceasation of publication in 1888 only three of the weekly
issues have survived - above extracted from the National Library
TROVE newspaper database).
76
The Sydney Morning Herald, 27 Sep 1880, The Friends of
Mr. THOMAS CHAMBERS are respectfully invited to attend the
Funeral of his late beloved SON, Bernard : to move from his
residence, Short-street, Forest Lodge, THIS (Monday) AFTERNOON,
at quarter to 2 o'clock, for the Necropolis ...
77
The photo of James Chambers appears at page 125 in
the 1991 Mackay Family Association published book titled -
The Mackay-McKay Family History. The book is held
by the Bowraville Museum and National Library of Australia.
The photo of Margaret Chambers née Mackay and two
of her sisters and a young boy appears at page 120 and
that of Margaret standing in front of her house in Glebe
at page 164.
In the photo of the three
sisters the compiler favours Margaret Chambers
née Mackay as the one seated at front. It is
possible the photo was taken at the time of the
Dec 1867 marriage of Margaret to Augustus Raymond
at Pola Creek at Macleay River, as sister Elizabeth
Bradley was at the Macleay (her husband to be William
Charles or his father William was a marriage witness),
and Margaret's half-sister Jane Gaddes could easily
have attended from the 866 acre part of the once
Major Innes owned "Cogo" property at Upper Rollands
Plains where six of her children were born before
the family moved to Bowraville ca. 1870. By 1867
the mailman's track from Rollands Plains to the
Macleay, once suitable only for travel on horseback,
was replaced by a dray trafficable road over the Marlo
Merrican range. If such was the case likely the young
boy (appears to be 3-4 years old) was Margaret's 25
Sep 1863 born son William who did not to live beyond
his 7th year. However it could have been taken on a
family occassion at any time between the 1867 marriage
and late 1872 or early 1873 when Margaret left the
mid-north coast to reside in Sydney or after about
1884 to 1885 when it is indicated Margaret returned
to the Macleay where she died in Kempsey in 1887.
Elizabeth's died in 1890 and the much younger
half-sister Jane at Bowraville in 1931.
Based on the 1880s photo of
Margaret standing in front of her house in Mount Vernon
Street in Glebe she would be the one seated center
with the young boy beside her. The caption on the photo
in the 1991 published The Mackay-McKay Family History
identified Margaret as seated in the center with her
20 years younger half-sister Jane Gaddes née Mackay
standing on the left and sister Elizabeth Bradley
née Mackay on the right. If it was taken at the
time of the 1867 marriage to Augustus Raymond
naturally Margaret would have been seated in the
center. However a card to which a copy of the photo
is attached held by the Bowraville Museum has a note
written on it that Jane Gaddes is on the left
with Margaret Chambers standing on the right and
Elizabeth Bradley in the center. Glenn Bradley in
his 1994 book titled When the river was the road
had just a cut-out from the photo of the sister
in the center identifying her as Margaret Chambers.
A 1990 published book by Alex Gaddes titled
Red Cedar Our Heritage simply said the photo
was of Jane Gaddes and sisters Margaret Chambers
and Elizabeth Bradley without as is the usual practice
with published photos stating the names of those
appearing are from L to R. Photos of Jane Gaddes
taken in her old age confirm she had a relatively
narrow face and took more after her father Angus
who was of slight build than mother Christina
whose photo suggests the opposite.
Compiled by John Raymond, Brisbane, QLD, Australia
First posted 14 Jan 2009 - last updated 2 Feb 2020
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