Stevens - married to KING in EAGLE line
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2020 With DNA and my Tree on Ancestry I made some big breakthroughs
with Stevens.
I hope this helps explain certain things I have found out about DNA and how to
handle Trees.
I hope it shows that finding the right names at the right time may still not be
the people you wanted.
Many aspects of Stevens are still unsolved. Much confusion between the different
family groups in Surrey
Egham Pirbright Carhalton etc
And then they marry in London but live in Surrey
Anyone with any thoughts please let me know
So my original before DNA research
see KING - per EAGLE marriage to Lankshear
Ann Stevens is mother of Jane KING and wife of William see 1841 William King and family
Eldest daughter Ann in 1841 is 14 so born 1826/27 hence marriage must before 1827
Ann STEVENS would have been 21 in 1826
Found these in research
see 1851 KING family - Ann now Widow a
niece Louisa is with Ann KING see McMurdie or MacMurdie Family
and Louise's mother was Martha Stevens who married JOHN MACKMURDIE 22 MAY
1825
Ann was born ChristChurch Southwark so presumably her sister was also
and yes
MARTHA STEVENS
Birth: 25 APR 1806 Christening: 31 AUG 1806 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey,
England
Father: HENRY STEVENS Mother: ANN
Note: mother is an Ann
And the actual register shows Henry as a Breeches Maker
Alas there are Ann's at the church but none with father Henry
Changing IGI to Greater London up comes
ANN STEVENS
Birth: 13 APR 1803 Christening: 03 JUN 1803 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster,
London
Father: HENRY STEVENS alas no occupation shown and Mother: ANN
Age looks right - parents same name as sister "younger" Martha -
not Southwark but perhaps they went up market for Ann or moved soon after.....
but we know Henry Stevens breeches maker is Ann's father as it is clear Martha is her sister
from family intermingling on census
and also
1852 marriage of Ann King (Stevens) to Fred
Disney
Certificate shows Ann's father as Henry Stevens tailor what else is a breeches maker
HENRY STEVENS Marriage to ANN CONWAY
20 FEB 1798 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London
And this looks very likely as our Ann
looked for birth Ann Conway but nothing is clear
Henry Stevens in directory
1805 Holden directory has our Breeches Maker at 4 Brunswick St. Blackfriars
Rd
1917 Atlas shows Brunswick St as near Blackfriars - so just a short walk over the bridge to London churches.
Nowadays it seems to be called Paris Gardens - note the pub on the corner Brunswick Arms
Finding Henry after 1806
The events from 1803 1805 1806 are only items I found for Henry -
The Henry Stevens that are not our Henry 1800s 1810s and 1841 census
and basically a similar story for Ann - some possible in 1841 census but nothing helps links -
you'd think she would be with her daughters -
and clearly
they are in touch per Louisa McMurdie with Ann Stevens in 1851.
2020 major breakthrough due to DNA
Henry Stevens * my Tree on Ancestry
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Henry is from Egham - he married in London and no clue from whence he came
So DNA and ThruLines helped me find a family in Egham
This image is for Henry's father and shows his family
John Stevens * 1746–1798 Birth 22 JUN 1746 • Egham, Surrey, England
Death 20
MAY 1798 • Pirbright, Surrey, England
But I do need to work more on the grandparents
Quite
clear from DNA
Matches that Henry is from Egham
Not on my tree I use Suffix field and that prints alongside name
* mean a grand parents ** is a patrilineal or matrilineal
DNA means a match to a cousin.
Ancestry also has Flags for this but I like the suffix as I can then flow through my tree on Ancestry
and make sure it flows
down to the cousin.
Notice Henry with * and then 3 siblings with DNA matches
Very strong link for Egham then.
There are Henry's at Pirbright etc
If you followed the Jonathan DNA links you would eventually
find a cousin whose ancestor is
William Henry Cecil Stevens born 1894
and that unique name traces back to the Egham family
Henry is from Egham
Henry and his life in London. Death to be confirmed etc
Please note had death 1827 but I need to put work on his death etc and Ann's
Henry's parents
John and Mary
First wife Ann Conway
First child Ann my ggm
Then her sister Martha
at least her baptism says breeches make
A marriage in 1802 to a Nancy found as 1815 birth of Susanna to Henry and Nancy.
Clearly if this 1802 was Henry then 1803 and 1806 he was with Ann.
One can only guess if this was Henry as expected what was going with his
relationships.
A tree with initials RI has birth of Susanna. I have DNA match with 63 cM. I
worked from Susanna forward per
that tree and found a likely cousin and who would be 3c 2r which
agrees with 63 cM. Sent a message. Alas no reply.
People often miss these Ancestry message
So DNA led me to Susanna and she does seem clearly to be Henry's daughter
Then up on my tree Hints pops this one that Henry had a boy with Sarah
Staddon. And Henry is a breeches maker
No trace of a marriage and Sarah does wed later.
Nothing clear on what happened to the son.
The records found matching age of the son seem to be for another man.
This man was a mariner. That seems to be another family.
The birth of Susanna to Henry to Nancy in 1815. Again Father is shown as Henry a
breeches maker
So looks strongly like another daughter to Henry, I have a DNA match to
And the marriage of Henry to Nancy Papell. This is 1802 and Susanna is not born
until 1815.
If this was Henry who married Ann in 1798, did he return to Anne for
birth of Ann 1803 and Martha in 1806
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Compare Henry signature of 1798 to Ann Conway. Is it the same. Hmmm somewhat
similar
Only other marriage of Henry Stevens to a Nancy is in 1818 but that is for a William Henry
Stevens
Banns
Shown as Capell but clearly Papell
The birth of son Henry to Sarah Staddon in 1814. Father is shown as Henry a
breeches maker
For some reason there is a typed version of the page
I have found anything on the son Henry after this