Daniel CARROLL

Person Sheet


Name Daniel CARROLL512,4722,34,4714,210,212
Birth Aug 6, 1815, Lincoln County, North Carolina4722,212
Death 1899, Fannin County, GA
Occupation Farmer4722
Father William CARROLL (~1772->1840)
Mother Mary "Polly" MOORE (~1770-~1870)
Spouses
1 Mary Magdalene SETZER512,4722,3990,212,210
Father John SETZER (-~1821)
Mother Catherine TARR (-~1846)
Marriage Aug 15, 1838, Macon County, North Carolina512
Children Ruah Catherine (1839-)
Amanda M. (1841-)
Manuel M. (1841-)
Martha (~1841-)
Mary L. (1844-)
John L. (1847-1921)
Caroline (1849-)
Sarah Elizabeth (1852-)
Daniel B. (1861-)
Notes for Daniel CARROLL
414This information provided by Paul "Chuck Adams", in a letter received about September 9, 1997.

I received some reference material #'s from Paul Adams. I will put in down for further reference: This will be a source to check with someone in Gilmer County.
Birth and Death: Indian Wars Pension File # 224
Marriage: Indian Wars Pension File # 224
Census: 1850 Georgia, Gilmer County, Page 370
Census: 1860 Georgia, Gilmer County, Page 44
Census: 1870 Georgia, Gilmer County, Page 55
Census: 1880 Georgia, Fannin County, Page 648
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Note: Information from email dated April 17, 1997 from Randall K. Hill:

10 August 1850 Census Gilmer County, GA
310 310 Daniel Carroll 35 45 North Carolina
Mary 33
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This does not look like a definite connection. It is a possible cousin from a different line. Perhaps a descendant of Jesse, or Nathaniel or Thomas Carroll. The previously named Carrolls are before our William Carroll Sr.

This information is provided from Loretta K Carroll: At this time she might be a distant cousin related to a brother of Miles Carroll?? His name is Daniel Carroll. Loretta says:

Several years ago, someone left a book on my Uncle's porch when he wasn't at home. This book contains a geneology of the Carroll Family, particularly those who went to Kentucky during the time period 1897 and going through about 1912. So far, it has been the most extensive record that we have found, in that many of the others only trace as far back as Luke Carroll, my GGG Grandfather. Luke was married 5 times and had an extremely large family. His last child was born when Luke was in his late 80's. This child was by his last wife, Vestie, who was the only wife that he didn't out live. My branch of the family tree originated from his first wife. I was told that she was Shawnee ( no name yet ). As to the geneology book that I was telling you about, there are a few mistakes that our family has noticed, but the older information was very valuable to us. We do not know who was responsible for this book, but it mentions the Carroll County Historical Society in Virginia, of which Carrolls can join and it lists an address. My Uncle has been very selfish with his book, and I haven't had it in my possession for very long, so I haven't written for more information yet.

Here is the Address it lists:
Carroll County Historical Society
P.O. Box 937
Hillsville, VA 24343
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April 17, 1997 Email from Randall K. Hill

I came across an interesting comment on Daniel Carroll, the signer of the Constitution, the other day. It seems as if he was an interpreter for the Catawba and Cherokee Indians for several of the treaties signed with them. Daniel Carroll, William Perry, and Benjamin Hawkins from North Carolina, are listed at one point as serving on a Committee to conclude a treaty with the Cherokee Indians in 1785. However, Daniel Carroll of Maryland, declined the appointment at the last minute. A general observation is made that many of the Carrolls lived on the frontier near the Indian borders and were therefore in a position to learn the Indian languages at an early age.
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April 17, 1997: From Randall Hill

Captain John E. Price's Company of Mounted Volunteers from Gilmer County, GA. On December 26, 1837, they were used for removal of Cherokees and Creeks from May 25, 1838 and July 13, 1838. Private William Carroll is listed on the roster. Note: There is a William Carroll in the 1850 census that indicates he is 53 years old at that time. He would have been about 41 years old in 1838. Not too old to be a private and a volunteer.
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Email from Bertha Wise, from Ruth Moore, from Randall K. Hill dated December 14, 1996

By the way, I mentioned that there was a story about Daniel Carroll and that he was double-jointed (Henry's brother). Well, I looked up the story again, and it says that his daughter was double-jointed. There is a little difference there, that I was neglecting to remember.
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April 28, 1997 From Ruth Moore's email ruth@cyberstation.net

HUSBAND: Daniel Carroll
Born: 6 Aug 1815 Place: Lincoln Co. NC
Died: 1899 Fannin Co. GA
Buried: Fannin Co. GA
Married: 15 Aug 1838 Macon Co. NC
Spouse: Mary Magdalene Setzer
Born: abt 1817 Lincoln C. NC
FATHER: William Sr. Carroll
MOTHER: Mary (Polly Moore)

Children:
1.
Name: Ruah Catherine Carroll
Born: 11 April 1839 Macon Co. NC
Spouse: William Isaac McVey
Married 15 Sept 1859
Other Marriage:
Thomas Wilburn Welch 28 Sept. 1871
2.
Name: Manuel M. Carroll
Born: abt 1841 Macon Co. NC
3.
Name: Mary L. Carroll
Born: 9 Dec 1844 Macon Co. NC
4.
Name: John L. Carroll
Born: 6 July 1847 Macon Co. NC
Spouse: Louise Calcona Mann
Married: 30 Dec 1869 Gilmer Co. GA
5.
Name: Caroline Carroll
Born: 25 Sept 1849 Gilmer Co. GA
6.
Name: Sarah Elilzabeth Carroll
Born: 16 Sept 1852 Gilmer Co. GA
7.
Name: Daniel B. Carroll
Born: 23 Oct 1861 Gilmer Co. GA
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April 8, 1997: Here is some marriage information for Murray County, GA. It was provided by Leonard Masino in an email lmasino@DigiScape.com

Henry Carroll m. Henrietta Beaver March 27, 1856
Jane Carroll m. Henderson Burke Feb 17, 1857
Rosannah E. Carroll m. John H. Beavers Sept 11, 1862
Thomas J. Carroll m. Susan Cauley June 5, 1860
William Carroll m. Mary Johnson Jan 25, 1846
Edward Carroll m. Jane Miller Jan 16, 1854
Dennis Carroll m. Mary Stafford April 16, 1854
Robert Carroll m. Mary Jane I. Thompson Feb 13, 1851
Jacob Carroll m. Mahala Williams March 8, 1841

That is all I found for Murray Co. GA. Will send information next time for Lincoln Coounty, North Carolina
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April 25, 1997 This information is from Bertha Wise and originally it came from Randall K. Hill dated December 14, 1996.

1850 Gilmer County, GA August 10, 1850
48 48 James D. Carroll 40 500 North Carolina
Lucinda 31
John 10
William 9
Easther 6
Murray 4
Andrew J 1
Lucinda 1/12

310 310 Daniel Carroll 35 45 North Carolina
Mary 33
Catharine 11
Amanda M. 9
Mary L. 7
John L. 5
Caroline 1 Georgia
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April 25, 1997 From an email from Bertha Wise orginally from Randall K. Hill dated December 14, 1996

From: Cherokee Land Lottery of Georgia 1832 by James F. Smith, 1839, New York.

Daniel Carroll received land in what is now Gilmer County, 24th District, 2nd Section, Lot #243, near headwaters of Salicoe Creek.

Mary Carroll received lot #40 in the same section, 24th District, as the widow of a Revolutionary War Soldier, serving in the 167th.

Listing of Carrolls in Subdivision #33 of Gilmer County, GA 1850.

William 416
Rachel M. 423
Miles 369
Jesse 417
James D. 351
Elijah 424
Daniel 370
Andrew 423

From a map of that part of Georgia occupied by Cherokee Indians, taken in 1831. John Bethune, Surveyor General of the State of Georgia.

Section 2, District 18. Carroll's Ferry, Waller's Ferry, Howell's Ferry, Buzzard Roost Island.

The map shows the "Gold Region" between Section 2 and Section 3,
very near District 18.

In a special census of March 29, 1834, for Union County, GA are listed William Carroll and John Carroll.

Captain John E. Price's Company of Mounted Volunteers from Gilmer County, GA on December 26, 1837 were used for the removal of Cherokees and Creeks from May 25,1838 and July 13, 1838. Private William Carroll is listed on the roster.

Poor School Rolls For Gilmer County, GA 1837 are as follows:

William Carrell Age 11
Easter Carrell Age 7
Nancy Carrell Age 6
John Carrell Age 12
Jiles Carroll 2 in family

One of the winners of the Gold Lottery was William Carroll for Lot #624, District #4. In the 1832 Gold Lottery for Cherokee County, GA, two other Carrolls are listed as receiving land. Edy Carroll (widow), Section 1, Lot #10, District #1, Sector #2; and Eleanor Carroll (orphan) Section #1, Lot #384, District #4, Sector #3.
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April 25, 1997 From Bertha Wise in an email . Original came from Randall K. Hill dated December 11, 1996.

Here are some interesting Claim documents from people trying to gain admission to the Cherokee Indian rolls in Oklahoma:
19305. John W. Hicks, Gainesville, GA. "I was born in Anniston County, South Carolina in 1861. I claim relationship to the Cherokee Indians through my mother, Martha Hicks, who was a quarter Cherokee Indian, her maiden name being Martha Carroll, and she claimed through her father, John Carroll, who was a half Cherokee Indian...My mother told me that she was raised among the Indians and lived among them when she was a girl...My people have always been recognized as white people"

15222. Richard V. Cook, Sherman Georgia. "That I am 79 years of age. I claim my Indian descent through my father; my mother was white...My father came from Cherokee County, North Carolina. I was a small boy when he came here. I was born in Cherokee County, North Carolina. I never lived with the Indians as amember of the tribe. My father lived with the Indians in Gilmer County, GA as a member of the tribe....Don't know when my father died. About 68 years ago was the last I heard of my father being alive. He was then living in Gilmer County, GA....Don't know whether my father was dead before 1851 or not. All of my brothers and sister were half....My father might have been living on the Knotley River in Cherokee County, North Carolina in 1835 or he may have been living on Fightingtown Creek in Gilmer County, GA. I was a boy when I left North Carolina about seven years of age and then I came to Gilmer County, GA. Some of the Indians were here at that time....Daniel Carroll and Bartlett Godfrey were the only two witnesses I had and they are both dead....this fellow Daniel Carroll, who is dead has often heard my father call me his son. He swore that in an affadavit that you have. The last time I saw my father was about 68 years ago on Sherlog Creek in Gilmer County, GA....I have always been recognized as a white man. Signed Richard Cook, Jasper Ga, Jul 9, 1908.

Thought you might be interesting in these rather stray quotes from books I have been reading. I really just happened on the application comments by accident. I thought the tie with Gilmer County, GA and the Carrolls was something I could not pass up. Something clicked when I discovered that Waynesville, Missouri was located on the Trail of Tears to Arkansas and Oklahoma. Then, one evening, Mary, one of my cousins living near Iberia, Missouri, told me something that rather shocked me. It appears that the area in and around Miles Carroll's orchard in rural Miller County, Missouri had several Indian residents. It seems that as a girl she was rather scared of going around them.
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April 25, 1997 In an email from Bertha Wise , originally from Randall K. Hill dated December 11, 1996

I came across and interesting comment on Daniel Carroll, the signer of the Constitution, the other day. It seems as if he was an interpreter for the Catawba and Cherokee Indians for several of the treaties signed with them. Daniel Carroll, William Perry, and Benjamin Hawkins from North Carolina, are listed at one point as serving on a Committee to conclude a treaty with the Cherokee Indians in 1785.

However, Daniel Carroll from Maryland, declined the appointment at the last minute. A general observation is made that many of the Carrolls lived on the frontier near the Indian borders and were therefore in a position to learn the Indian languages at an early age.
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Carroll Saga page 309 says:

1850, 1860, 1870 - - Gilmer County, GA, 1880 - - Fannin County, GA. 1897 - - Land records indicate he was still alive in Fannin County, GA.
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