Ref:

(1) Flodoardi Annales 945- "Monumenta Germaniae Historica Scriptorum"- Vol. III, p. 392; "Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 946- "Monumenta Germaniae Historica Scriptorum"- Vol. XXIII, p. 765

m.c.941 ORDELA de CASTRES- d. of Warin, Comte de Castres & Gilla de Dormois
d. after 989

In 941 the "Chronicon Maceriense" states that Bernard made peace with Warin, Comte de Castres and requested Warin's daughter Ordela for the wife of his son Manasses.(1) Flodoard in his "Annals" for 960 states that Manasses, grand nephew of Archbishop Artaud captured traitors at Almontem Castle.(2) Manasses is named in a charter from 6 Nov. 972.(3) He witnessed a charter 26 May 974.(4) He is named in a letter by Gerbert d'Aurillac dated Aug. 988.(5)

Upon the death of Warin, Comte de Castres in 960, Manasses became Comte de Castres and M�zi�res.(7)

Issue-

Ref:

(1) Chronique d�Alard de Gennilule abb� de Signy- Le Long, in "Pi�ces Justificatives", 1783- Vol. I, p. 594
(2) Flodoardi Annales 960 - "Monumenta Germaniae Historica Scriptorum"- Vol. III, pp. 404-5
(3) "Archives administratives de la ville de Reims"- p. 91
(4) "Recueil des actes de Lothaire et Louis V"- F. Lot, I. Halphen- 63, p. 149
(5) Lettres de Gerbert 983-997- J. Havet, Ed., Paris, 1889- 129, p. 117
(6) Richeri Historiarum- J. Guadet, Ed., Paris, 1845- IV, 56, p. 230
(7) Chronique d�Alard de Gennilule abb� de Signy- Le Long, in "Pi�ces Justificatives", 1783- Vol. I, p. 594

b.c.960 Rethel, Ardennes
m. DADA
d. after 1026

The "Chronicon Maceriense" states that in 1020 "Hermanus Grandipratensis" had a dispute because Manasses, son of Manasses and Ordela claimed the right to the castle in Dormois as the son of Ordela, his mother, daughter of Warin and Gilla de Dormois.(1) In 1026 "Raimbertus Virdunice civitatis pastor" confirmed the donation of property to Sainte-Vanne, Verdun, by the lady Dada, wife of Manasses, Comte de Rethel at the request of Abbot Richard for the love of the said Abbot Richard, and Count Odo. Odo's identity remains a mystery, however, he was probably closely related to Dada.(2)

Ref:

(1) Chronique d�Alard de Gennilule abb� de Signy- Le Long, in "Pi�ces Justificatives", 1783- Vol. I, p. 595
(2) Die �lteren Urkunden des Klosters S. Vanne zu Verdun- H. Bloch, in "Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft f�r lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde", 1898- Vol. XXXII, p. 433

b.c.985?
m. ?YVETTE/JUDITH de ROUCY (b.c.989 Roucy)
d. after 1081 Rethel, Ardennes

The Genealogiciae Sciptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et... Iveta comitissa de Retest" as the brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio" and later "Ivetta soror... Letaldi de Marla" as the mother of Hugh, count of Rethel.(1) This is confirmed by the "Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines" who names "comitissa de Reitest, uxor comitis Manesserii lutta" as being the sister of "fratres Ebalus comes de Roceio et Letardus domnus de Marla".(2) Given the ages of Manasses and Judith it is difficult to think of her as being the daughter of Giselbert de Roucy who died at the end of the 10th century, but, it is possible that after Giselbert's death, his wife remarried and Judith was the half sister of Ebles, Comte de Roucy. There is also a possibility that Judith was the daughter of Godefroi "le Barbu", Duke of Lower Lotharingia. This would explain a charter by Duke Godefroi from 1065 and his wife Beatrix confirming the rights of the church of Verdun Sainte-Vanne which was issued with the consent of "comitis Manasse" and witnessed by Manassas and his son Renaud. If Manasses was the Duke's son-in-law it would explain why he was involved in this charter. (3) Also given the dates for the earlier members of the family it appears that there may be a missing generation between Manasses III and his "father" Manasses II... who was more likely his grandfather.

Ref:

(1) Genealogi� Scriptoris Fusniacensis No. 3 & 9 in "Monumenta Germaniae Historica Scriptorum"- Vol. XIII, pp. 252-3
(2) Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium for 1119 in "Monumenta Germaniae Historica Scriptorum"- Vol. XXIII, p. 823
(3) Chartulary of Verdun Sainte-Vanne- LIV, p. 77

Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700- Frederick Lewis Weis, 7th ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1992- 103A-23
Europ�ische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europ�ischen Staaten- Detlev Schwennicke, Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, Marburg, 1978- Vol. III, p. 625

b.c.1020 Rethel, Ardennes
m. MILICENT de MONTLHERY (b.c.1042 Montlhery, Eure et Loir)
d.c.1118 Rethel

Hugues de Rethel names his parents Manasses and Judith in a charter to the church of Braux in 1081.(1) A charter from 1094 grants absolution to Earl Hugh with the consent of his son Earl Manasses.(2) In 1117 Hugh donated property to the church of St. Mary of Noveyo.(3) The "Historia" of Monk Aimon lists Milicent as a child of Guy de Montlh�ry.(4)

Ref:

(1) Tr�sor des chartes du comt� de Rethel- G. Saige, H. Lacaille, L. H. Labande, Ed., Monaco, 1902-16- Vol. I, No. 1
(2) Histoire de la Ville de Rethel- E. Jolibois, Paris, 1847- Vol. IV, p. 195
(3) Notice sur le cartulaire du comt� de Rethel- L. Delisle, in "Annuaire-Bulletin de la soci�t� de l�histoire de France"- 1867, part II, No.1, p. 11
(4) Ex continuatione Histori� Aimoni Monachi Floriacensis- RHGF- Vol. XI, p. 275

The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant- George Edward Cokayne Ed., St. Catherine Press, London, 1910- Vol. 8, p. 507
Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700- Frederick Lewis Weis, 7th ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1992- 103A-24, 246A-24
Europ�ische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europ�ischen Staaten- Detlev Schwennicke, Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, Marburg, 1978- Vol. III, pp.624-5

b.c.1065 Rethel, Ardennes
m. ELIZABETH de NAMUR (b.c.1092 Namur, m.2. Clarembald de Rosoy (b.c.1090 Chateau Porcien, d.c.1158 Chateau Porcien)
d.c.1123 Rethel

William of Tyre states the Gervais was a brother of King Baudouin of Jerusalem and that he was elected archbishop of Reims, however, he resigned after the death of his brother in order to marry and had a single daughter.(1) The "Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines" names Elizabeth the daughter of Earl Godfrey of Namur as wife of Gervais, brother of Baldwin of Bourg and also states that he resigned as Archbishop of Reims to marry. The "Chronicle" also states that Clarembald de Rosoy alienated Gervais' daughter's lands and married her off to Robert Marmion.(3)

Issue-

Ref:

(1) William of Tyre- Vol. XII, part I, pp. 511-2
(2) Histoire de la Ville de Rethel- E. Jolibois, Paris, 1847- Vol. IV, p. 195
(3) Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116- "Monumenta Germaniae Historica Scriptorum"- XXIII, p. 822

The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant- George Edward Cokayne Ed., St. Catherine Press, London, 1910- Vol. 8, p. 507
Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700- Frederick Lewis Weis, 7th ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1992- 246A-24