The Foundation for Medieval Genealogy states that Gauthier, Comte d'Amiens may be the same person as Gauthier, Comte de Dreux based on information in several charters. Both were living in the same area, donated land to the same religious houses and both had wives named Eva.(1)

In a charter dated from before 967 Gauthier's mother Eldegardis donated property to Saint Peter for the soul of her husband Waleran with the consent of her son Gauthier.(2) Also, about this time, Gauthier donated the church of Saint George to the monastery of Saint Peter for the soul of his predecessor Landry.(3)

Ref:

(1) Foundation for Medieval Genealogy- Northern France- http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GautierIIValoisB
(2) Chartres Saint-Pierre I, book 4, chapter V, p. 87
(3) Ibid- book 3, chapter I, p. 55

m. ADELA de SENLIS- d. of Bernard, Comte de Senlis
d. after 1017

Walter was a witness in 975 to a charter of Hugh, duke of France giving the Abbey of Saint-Jean to the Abbey of Sainte-Croix d'Orleans.(1)

In 1006 Walter donated property to Saint Peter's Monastery for the soul of his wife Adela.(2)

Walter was the count of Mantes, Amiens and of the Vexin.

Issue-

Ref:

(1) "Cartulaire de Sainte-Croix d'Orleans 814-1300"- J. Thillier, E. Jarry, Paris, 1906- LXIII, p. 123
(2) Chartres Saint-Pierre I, Book VII, chapter XLIII, p. 170

m. GODIFU- (m.2. Eustache, Comte de Boulogne), d. of Ethelread the Unready, King of England and Emma of Normandy (See WESSEX)
d. 1035 on Robert I's pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

Dreux or Drogo is first mentioned as a witness to a charter from Earl Walter to the monastery of Saint Peter in 1006.(1) Drogo also donated property to Saint Peter by an undated charter.(2)

Orderic Vitalis states that Drogo went with Robert, Duke of Normandy to Jerusalem and died on the journey. King Henry of France took back the Vexin after Drogo's death.(3)

Ref:

(1) Chartres Saint-Pierre I, Book VII, chapter XLIII, p. 170
(2) Ibid- XLVI, p. 173
(3) Orderic Vitalis- Vol. IV, book VII, p. 77

Dictionary of National Biography- Leslie Stephen, Oxford University Press
The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, p. 411
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- p.85
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

m. GERTHA
d. 21 Dec. 1057 Peterborough

Ralph was Lord of Sudeley, Gloucestershire as well as Earl of Hereford.

Florence of Worcester calls Raoul the "son of King Edward's sister". His parentage is also recorded by Orderic Vitalis.(1)

Ralph or Raoul was a supporter of Edward the Confessor in Sept. 1051 when Earl Godwin of Wessex and his sons were rebelling.(2) Florence of Worcester says that he took his army to defend Hereford from Earl Aelfgar and Gruffyndd, Prince of South Wales and fled "a coward" 24 Oct. 1055.(4)

Flaxley Abbey- 1712- by Johannes Kip

Ralph founded the Cistercian Abbey of Flaxley, Gloucestershire on 30 Sept. 1051.(3)

Issue-

Ref:

(1) Florence of Worcester- 1055, p. 157; Orderic Vitalis- Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77
(2) "The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle"- 1052
(3) "Domesday Descendants"- p. 118
(4) Florence of Worcester- 1055, p. 157

Dictionary of National Biography- Leslie Stephen, Oxford University Press
The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, pp. 411-2; VI, pp.446-7
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- pp. 43, 85
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

d. after 1100

Harold was the baron of Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire and founded the priory of Harold Ewyas in 1100. He donated the church of St. Michael de Ewyas to Gloucester St. Peter by an undated charter which was witnessed by his sons Roger, John, Alexander and William.(1)

He is listed in Domesday in Gloucestershire, Worcestershire, Warwickshire and Middlesex.(2)

Issue-

Ref:

(1) MP- Vol. IV, 1245, p. 492; Dugdale's "Monasticon"- Gloucestery Monastery- Vol. XIII, p. 546; "Historia et Cartularium Monasterii Sancti Petri Gloucesteriae"- W.H. Hart, London, 1863- Vol. I, CCXXXVIII, p. 285
(2) "The History of the Norman Conquest of England, Its Causes and Its Results"- E.A. Freeman, Oxford, 1877- Vol. II, appendix, note LL, p. 683, quoting Domesday- 129b, 169, 177, 244

Dictionary of National Biography- Leslie Stephen, Oxford University Press
The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, pp. 412-3
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- pp. 43, 85
Domesday People - K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Boydell Press, 1999- pp.245-6
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

m.c.1130 ?GRACE de TRACY
d. before 1166

John was Lord of Sudely Castle and Toddington Gloucestershire. The Pipe Roll for 1130 lists John de Sulleia, accounting for his wife's property in Gloucestershire.(1)

There is no primary evidence that John Married Grace de Tracy. Prof. Nicholas Vincent states that "I can find no reliable evidence to suggest that the royal bastard fathered a daughter named Grace" and that she "seems to have been invented, perhaps in comparatively recent times, to explain certain irregularities in the Sudeley descent, and to justify the claims of the Hanbury-Tracy family of Toddington in Gloucestershire to be descended both from the blood royal of Henry I and from William de Tracy, the murderer of Thomas a Becket".(2)

Ref:

(1) MP- Vol. IV, 1245, p. 492

(2) Ibid-

The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, p. 413
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- p. 85
Domesday Descendants - K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Boydell Press, 2002- p. 725
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

m. EMMA de BEAUCHAMP (d. after 1192, bur. Winchcombe Abbey)
d. before 29 Sept. 1192

Ralph donated Yaneworthe to Gloucester St. Peter by an undated charter.(1) He also donated property to Winchecombe Priory which had been given by his father for the soul of his wife Emma. This undated charter names his sons Otuel and Ralph.(2) He also donated the churches of Dercet and Chilverdescote to Erdbury for the souls of Emma and his son "Hotueli".(3)

Emma is also a bit of a mystery as no primary source is found to confirm her identity. Having a son named Otuel brings up the possibility that she was related to Otuel, the illegitimate son of Hugh, Earl of Chester. There is also the possibility that she was from the Stafford family if the "Radulfus de Suleya" is the same as "Radulphus de Sudle" found in other charters.(4)

Ralph granted the lands of Hardwick in the manor of Dassett to the Knights Templar in 1185 which was valued at 40s and consisted of 4 virgates of land and held by eleven tenants.(5)

Ref:

(1) MP- Vol. IV, 1245, p. 492
(2) Ibid-
(3) Ibid-
(4) Ibid-
(5) "A History of the County of Warwick"- Vol. V, Kington Hundred- article on Burton Dassett at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=57043

The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, pp. 413-4
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- p. 85
Domesday Descendants - K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Boydell Press, 2002- p. 725
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

m. ISABEL ______ (d. after 1242)
d. before 26 Feb. 1222

On 26 Feb. 1222 "Ralph son and heir of Ralph de Sudeley made a fine for "his relief of the lands formerly of Ralph his father" in Gloucestershire.(1)

Issue-

Ref:

(1) MP- Vol. IV, 1245, p. 492

The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, p. 414
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- p. 86
Domesday Descendants - K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Boydell Press, 2002- p. 725
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

m. IMENIA _____ (d. after 1247)
d. 19 Mar. 1242

In 1242 Ralph's widow Imenia, bought the custody of his lands with the reversion of land held in dower by Isabel, Ralph's mother.(1) The knight's fee held by Ralph in 1235 of the king was called Dassett and in 1242 was called Great Dassett.(2)

Ref:

(1) Exc. Rot. Fin.- Vol. I, p. 376; Pipe Roll for 26 Henry III- 255
(2) Book of Fees- 509, 959

The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, pp. 414-5
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- p. 86
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

m. 8 Sept. 1254 JOAN de BEAUCHAMP (d. after 1298)- d. of Sir William de Beauchamp
d. 29 June 1280

By a charter dated to about 1253, William de Beauchamp granted to Bartholomew de Sudeley in free marriage with his daughter Joan, ten virgates of land and a messuage in Sheriff's Lench with reversion to William in case Joan died without issue.(1)

In 1267 Bartholomew had a grant of a market day on Friday and a fair on the eve, day and morrow of the feast of St. James in the manor of Chipping Dassett.(2)

Issue-

Ref:

(1) "History of the County of Worcester"-Vol. III, pp. 45-50- article on the parish of Sheriff's Lench at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43085#n72
(2) "A History of the County of Warwick"- Vol. V, Kington Hundred- article on Burton Dassett at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=57043

The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, p. 415
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- p. 86
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

b. before 1258
d. before 18 Apr. 1336

John was made Baron Sudeley in 1299.

John ran into financial problems and leased the manor of Chipping Dassett for nine years to two Italian merchants. In 1318 he demised it to Sir William de Bereford for ten years and in 1323 for the term of Sir William's life. In 1325 he granted the reversion to Sir William's son Edmund for life with the eventual remainder to his grandson John, son of Bartholomew de Sudeley.(1)

Ref:

(1) "A History of the County of Warwick"- Vol. V, Kington Hundred- article on Burton Dassett at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=57043

The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, pP. 416-7
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- p. 86
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

m. MAUD de MONTFORT (d. 2 Oct. 1326)
d. before 1326

Issue-

Ref:

The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, pp. 416-7; IX, p.130
English Baronies- I.J. Sanders, Oxford University Press, 1963- p. 86
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net

m. ELEANOR de SCALES (d. 6 Sept. 1361)
d. 19 Feb. 1340

At the time of John Jr.'s death in 1369 the manor of Chipping Dassett was valued at 12 marks in addition to �37 in rents. His heirs were his nephew Thomas Boteler and his sister Margery.(1)

Ref:

(1) "A History of the County of Warwick"- Vol. V, Kington Hundred- article on Burton Dassett at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=57043

The Complete Peerage - St. Catherine Press, London- Vol. XII/2, p. 417
Tim Powys-Lybbe's web page at: http://www.tim.ukpub.net