I23641: GUY de BEAUCHAMP 2nd Earl of Warwick, Knt. (ABT 1278

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"The figure of Guy Beauchamp, the second Beauchamp earl, is a much clearer figure than that of his father, largely due to his outspoken political criticism of the failings of Edward II which attracted much attention from contemporary chroniclers. We have already noted that he was born in the early 1270s, but from then we do not know anything until the occasion of his knighthood on 25 March 1296. What is certain is that he enjoyed an unusually broad education for his age. The description of Earl Guy in the Annales Londonienses as ‘bene literatus’ is seized on by McFarlane who reminds us that contemporary prelates were only ‘literatus’ if they possessed a university education. McFarlane refutes the notion that Guy spent any time at Oxford, but insists that the term ‘can hardly have meant less than that he was well grounded in Latin grammar’. It seems likely, however, that he was grounded in much more; Tout, by no means an admirer, admits that the earl possessed an education ‘seldom found in the higher nobility of his age’. Guy's extensive library is well known, and we have a catalogue of what would appear to have been a small selection from it, which the earl presented to Bordesley Abbey in 1306, described by McGoldrick as ‘one of the most interesting book collections of the fourteenth century’. The majority of the works in the list are ‘romaunces’, meaning they were written either in French or Anglo-Norman, and concern such diverse topics as the lives of Titus and Vespasian, physiology and surgery, biblical tales, legends of the holy grail, lives of the saints, and historical stories concerning figures such as Charlemagne and Alexander. One book is mentioned only as ‘un petit rouge livre, en le quel sount contenuz mous diverses choses’. The inclusion of a number of ‘chansons de gestes’, outdated by the early fourteenth century, could betray Earl Guy's conservative literary tastes, or else might simply represent a clear-out of some of the older books in the Warwick library.

Guy was not the only Beauchamp book-owner that we know of in our period. His daughter, Matilda de Say, was to enter the royal household of Edward III, and bequeathed a number of unnamed French and Latin books to John de Harleston. Her sister-in-law, Katherine Mortimer (wife of Earl Thomas [I]) left a book of ‘ch’ to her son Thomas. Perhaps this refers to a book of songs [‘chansons’], but whatever, Earl Guy is perhaps the best example of a cultured and cerebral member of the higher nobility in the early fourteenth century. This was not lost on his contemporaries: the author of the Vita Edwardi Secundi claims that ‘in wisdom and council he had no peer’, and that ‘other earls did many things only after taking his opinion’; the author of the Lanercost chronicle credits him with ‘equal wisdom and integrity’, whilst the Annales Londonienses describes Beauchamp as ‘homo discretus et bene literatus per quem totum regnum Angliae sapienta praefulgebat’. A streak of simple piety, in an age unrenowned for its modesty, is evident in Guy's will, in which he requests that he be buried in Bordesley Abbey in a simple ceremony ‘without any great pomp’, especially when we compare it with the preparations made for the funeral of his grandson, William Beauchamp, Lord Bergavenny, who requested that five tapers be hung about his body from the moment of death, and that twenty-four poor men be cloaked in black, and each carrying torches, before 10,000 masses are said ‘by the most honest priest that can be found’. His affinity for the austerity of the Cistercian order was probably, in part, political. It would be surprising to find him embracing the Benedictines after his father's quarrels with Bishop Giffard. However, there is also the small possibility that Guy was influenced by the Cistercian ideas in the romance The Quest for the Holy Grail. A number of the books which the earl gave to Bordesley Abbey were Arthurian romances, and it is just possible that the earl was influenced by this piece of Cistercian propaganda.

What makes Earl Guy interesting is the contradictory nature of his character, perhaps best summed up by Tout when he compared the earl to the ‘cultivated aristocratic ruffians’ found in the later renaissance. This apparently ‘discreet’ and ‘well-read’ man was also a highly skilled soldier and ruthless politician; he served frequently in the Scottish wars under Edward I, and was present at Falkirk, the siege of Carlaverock and the siege of Stirling Castle. He clearly cut a very impressive figure on the battlefield, and the author of the Siege of Carlaverock claims that:

‘De Warwik le Count Guy

Coment ken ma rime de guy

Ne avoit voisin de lui mellour

Baniere ot de rouge coulour

O feasse de or et croissilie’

in a clear reference to the Beauchamp coat of arms. His single-mindedness can be seen in his activities during the reign of Edward II, when, despite Lancaster's de jure leadership of the baronial opposition, Earl Guy seems to have been the most active opponent of Edward and Gaveston. The Vita Edwardi Secundi sees Earl Guy as the ‘brains behind the Ordinances’, when it claims that it was ‘by his advice and skill the Ordinances were framed’. Earl Guy also merits the distinction of being the only earl to have opposed Gaveston's influence at court consistently from Edward's coronation until Gaveston's death in 1312, which was largely engineered by the earl himself. His nick-name of ‘the black dog of Arden’, reputedly coined by Gaveston, probably refers to more than his swarthy complexion. Indeed the Chronicle of Lanercost claims that ‘when this was reported to the earl, he is said to have replied with calmness: "If he call me a dog, be sure that I will bite him so soon as I shall perceive my opportunity"’."
From: http://users.powernet.co.uk/barfield/chap1.htm

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LDS: Son of Robert Love (1775-1875) and Nancy O'Neill (1784-1850)
Other Spouses Martha Calvin
Children... 1. M Child: Robert Love Birth: 1858

1810, 1820 Censuses, Spartanburg District, SC;
1830, 1840, Census 1850 Pickens Co, AL

Another record may be more specific. "Several years ago I had copied a deed in the Limestone Co., courthouse regarding Zachariah Lindsay buying land belonging to Henry O. N. Love. I have felt like this was the husband of Mary C., but could find no other proof. This deed is dated 1861. Evidently Henry owed money to Jonathan McDonald and could not pay so the sheriff ordered his land and "everything" sold to the highest bidder. Zachariah Lindsay paid $400.00. The land was located in Section 20 and 21, which is divided by the railroad track and located just west of where WalMart was built. If you remember the railroad overpass on highway 72, just south of Athens there was a house off to south of 72 and we knew the Harrison's lived there at one time and the original house burned. I believe that is where section 20 and 21 are located." betty taylor

"Your Henry O'Neill left Potomoc MS and came to TX also. You are in luck, for I have a friend who is also a descendant of Henry O.N. Love/Mary Harrison/Nancy Love. The many Henry O.N's makes the family confusing especially the TX lines. John O.N. (s. of old Robert 1775 of Ireland) had a son Henry O.N. and a son Robert B. and this family went to TX after the Civil War also, around Austin and that family history is available. I have talked to his descendant Eleanor Parmer, of Old John O'Neill and conferred with her for about 15 years. I have copies of her work."

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GUY de BEAUCHAMP 2nd Earl of Warwick, Knt.

ABT 1278 - 12 Aug 1315

ID Number: I23641

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ID Number: I2855

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18 Jan 1768 - ____

ID Number: I73990

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ABT 1830 - ____

ID Number: I86594

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ID Number: I36245

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ID Number: I59020

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1101 - 1128

ID Number: I61449

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ABT 1847 - ABT Dec 1875

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ABT 1790 - ____

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ABT 1700 - ____

ID Number: I84224

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