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_Joel Jackson CONEY _+ | (1812 - 1859) m 1838 _William Lorraine "Bose" CONEY I_| | (1844 - 1927) m 1864 | | |_Emeline MORGAN _____+ | (1820 - 1884) m 1838 _Seth J. CONEY Sr._____________________| | (1869 - 1907) | | | _Seth Woods PURL II__+ | | | (1811 - 1850) m 1837 | |_Julia Muse PURL ________________| | (1847 - 1890) m 1864 | | |_Mary M. C. MONROE __+ | (1819 - 1890) m 1837 | |--Julius E. CONEY | (1907 - 1981) | _____________________ | | | _________________________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Josephine Augusta "Gussie" BRUNINGER _| (1874 - 1940) | | _____________________ | | |_________________________________| | |_____________________
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Malcolm Hart Harris of West Point, Virginia in his three
articles in Volume 22 of The Virginia Genealogist, starting on
pages 3, 99, and 187. The first page of Hart's works entitled
THREE WILLIAM HARRISES IN HANOVER COUNTY
"No where in these articles is named Robert Harris, who married
Mary Claiborne Rice, as the son of Captain Thomas Harris. This
seems to be brought up by Ligon writing in The Ligon Family and
Connections, 1947, on p. 844.
In conclusion it appears that the articles named rather clearly
identify two different families of William Harris, one which is
the Harris/Overton line and does not seem to come from Captain
Thomas Harris, and the other line which continues down through
Major William Harris and is further identified as associaed with
George Alves."
CONFLICT: in "A History of Louisa County, VA" by Malcolm H.
Harris, MD that Major Robert Harris b. 1615 came to VA abt 1650
and m. Mary Claiborne Rice, widow of Edward Rice and daughter of
Col. William Claiborne. I cannot find documentation of this
fact. If William Claiborne was b. in 1587, his daughter must
have been born later than 1615 when Robert Harris was born.
Martha [email protected]
"Claiborne of Virginia" by Fred Dorman on p. 6. It does say that
G. M. Claiborne in Claiborne Pedigree (Lynchburg, 1900), pp.
13-14 lists Mary who married (1) Rice and (2) Robert Harris, but
that this author could find no evidence to support this. I have
never seen this Claiborne Pedigree but have seen it quoted a
number of times. He also gives in the footnote "Major Robert
Harris (ca 1630-1701) of New Kent County, VA: Was He Real Or A
Myth?" from the VA Genealogist, XXV, p. 191-203
I have re-read the Harris family information Malcolm Hart Harris
included in the History of Louisa Co., and I find it extremely
flawed. I believe in later writings, as in various issues of
The Virginia Genealogist, he corrected some of this information
about the Harris family.
This Harris family, as far as can be determined by more recent
research, has NO links to the early immigrant Thomas Harris,
according to the latest editions of Adventurers of Purse and
Person by John Frederick Dorman. Furthermore, recent Claiborne
family historians have found no trace of a woman named Mary
Claiborne, reportedly married to Robert Harris immigrant, the
reported grandfather of Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co. and
Albemarle
Co. Robert Harris, the immigrant, is reportedly the father of
William Harris, who married Temperance Overton.
Any good guidelines you listers can give me? I prefer primary
sources, as I have dipped into most of the secondary sources
about Harris--from the Swem Library at William and Mary College
to Salt Lake City to the Los Angeles Public Library! But I need
to know more about the Glens! E.W.Wallace ([email protected]) a
descendant of Robert's son Christopher Harris of Albemarle Co.
and Madison Co., KY
Major Robert Harris of New Kent County, Virginia: Was He a Real
Man or a Myth?
Author: Harris, Malcolm Hart; Publication: The Virginia
Genealogist, Vol.25, 1981.
Robert Harris - I know a number of genealogies show this man as
the son of Thomas Harris but I think that's just one of those
inaccuracies that got put into print and won't go away. I've
never seen any real evidence of that, and, in fact, the evidence
that exists seems to suggest Thomas Harris' "only" son was
William Harris. The work that Helen Harris Ott did during her
six years in Essex has a genealogy that traces Robert Harris
back to William Harris, the eldest son of William Harris of
Shenfield by his first marriage to Joanne Smythe. This needs
more work as well as Joanne Smythe's possible connections to the
Smythe family. Robert Harris settled in York County around 1650
and supposedly married the daughter of William Claiborne.
Claiborne has suggested connections to the Smythe family, as
well, with his wife, Elizabeth Butler supposedly being connected
to the marriage of Ursula Smythe to William Boteler. The
descendants of Robert Harris spread up the York River watershed
into the Shenandoah Valley and over the mountains into Kentucky.
These are the Midwest Harrises. He also left descendants on the
Peninsula which can be followed into the middle 1700s, but I
still can't quite make the connection, although the proximity is
so close it's unreal. J. Phillip Harris 603 Wexwood Court
Richmond, Virginia 23236-4138 Phone: Home (804) 794-1084 Office
(804) 323-3100 E-Mail: [email protected] Fax: (804) 330-7198
There was, in fact, a land patent for the Robert Harris land in
New Kent County. It is on Page 489 of Nugent's Cavaliers and
Pioneers Volume I. Unfortunately, there was a transcribing error
that occurred at some point and the patent states the name as
Robert HARRISON, not Robert HARRIS. It is the same 389 acres,
patented on 6 Dec 1662 that shows up elsewhere under the name of
Robert HARRIS. Now, there has been considerable discussion as to
whether it should really be Harrison or Harris in all the cases,
but it is clear that, whichever is correct, it is always the
same person. There were not two different people, one named
Harrison and the other named Harris. My personal opinion is that
Harris is correct, but there are others who feel the person was
really named Robert Harrison. It's not my line so that's as far
as I'm going with it.
Now, despite it not being my line and really none of my
business, I'm still going to say it:
If there ever was a Mary Claiborne who married a Robert Harris,
it occurred two or three generations later much farther west in
Virginia. If there was a Mary Claiborne then, she would have
been a great granddaughter or later to William Claiborne,
definitely not a daughter.
Malcolm Hart Harris is generally credited with being the source
of the Mary Claiborne myth, but as Mr. Wallace indicates in his
post, Malcolm Hart Harris only made a very slim case that Robert
Harris MIGHT have been married to a daughter of William
Claiborne. Harris researchers ever since have taken that and
made a whole lot more of it than Malcolm Hart Harris ever
intended. Phil Harris 3/2/2003
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_____________________ | _James H. JAMESON ___| | (1691 - 1736) m 1716| | |_____________________ | _James JAMESON ______| | (1720 - 1776) m 1742| | | _____________________ | | | | |_Margaret JENNINGS __| | (1693 - 1732) m 1716| | |_____________________ | | |--Peggy JAMESON | (1748 - 1765) | _Bernard GAINES _____+ | | (1657 - 1747) m 1674 | _Daniel GAINES ______| | | (1696 - 1782) m 1721| | | |_Martha TAYLOR ______+ | | (1654 - 1747) m 1674 |_Mary Muse GAINES ___| (1722 - 1806) m 1742| | _Samuel GAINES ______ | | (1670 - ....) |_Elizabeth GAINES ___| (1700 - ....) m 1721| |_Mary MUSE __________ (1680 - 1737)
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