ELDER family, Isle of Skye, Southern Parish of Sleat, Inverness-shire, Highlands of Scotland   (Also Inverness, Argyll, Sutherland, etc.)

Thanks to Craig Elder for sending me selections from the book: For ELDER chapter see Part 2
Borrowed from the Harold B. Lee Library,
Brigham Young University, Provo Utah

GoogleBooks "Brave Sons of Skye"


Map of Sleat, Isle of Skye 

Webcams on Isle of Skye, from Gaelic College "Sabhal Mr Ostaig"
near Clan MacDonald Museum, and Armadale Castle, Sleat:

Map from Armadale Castle to Isleornsay, Isle of Skye (Elder homestead) 7.2 mi - 12 min.


Library entry:

MacInnes, John, Lieut.-Col.
 The brave sons of Skye :                                                                                                 Skye 4 - Sir George ELDER, as
 containg the military records (compiled from authentic sources) of the              "Native of  KILLEARNAN, Ross and Cromarty"
 leading officers, non-commissioned officers, and private soldiers whom
"Eilean a cheo" has produced, with 100 Portraits,
    by John MacInnes.
London : Eyre and Spottiswoode, 1899.
and Norman MacLeod: Edinburgh
Fascimile edition: Bowie, Maryland : Heritage Books, 2001.
   xxiv, 230 p., [30] leaves of plates : ports. ; 27 cm.
     McDonald family.
     McCloud family.
      McKinnon family.
 " The Isle of Skye, off the northwestern coast of Scotland, is the largest of the Inner Hebrides.
"Be the many marvelous tales regarding Skye's heroes and heroines of prehistoric times true or not,
a spirit of warlike enterprise has existed in the island from the earliest period of which
we have any authentic record, and has been fostered by passing events (involving the strife of arms)
century after century up to the present day.
But it is with the share that "The Brave Sons of Skye" took in Britain's great wars in foreign lands
that this work more particularly deals."
   Biographical sketches, of varying length and primarily focused on military careers,
are grouped by surname and place of residence.
Surnames listed include:
Beaton or Bethune, Campbell, Elder, MacAlister--tracing "their origin to Alasdair, or Alexander,
a son of Angus Mor of the Clan Donald," MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIbor,
MacKinnon, MacLean, MacLeod, MacQueen, Martins, and Nicholson.
Dr. John Grant, Sgt. John MacBeth, Col. Sir John MacRa,  Dr. Alexander Morrison,
Pvt. Hugh Robertson, the Battle of Mahidpore, the Battle of Moodkee,
and the Battle of Inkerman are also covered.
These sketches contain an abundance of genealogical material.
An abundance of portaits, a list of the original subscribers, numerous
brief excerpts from letters and other documents, and a fullname index augment this work.
Genealogists and historians alike will want to add this book to their libraries. "

Page 219:

Major-General SIR GEORGE ELDER , K.C.B.
        [Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath]
 ."...The Elders had fighting blood in their veins from both sides of the
house, ancestors of theirs (Stuart and Elder) having fought at
Culloden on the side of the Prince."
    "Sir George Elder was a soldier born..."
....he was made Knight Commander of the Order of the Tower and Sword by the Regency of Portugal;
and His Royal Highness the Regent of England was pleased to confer the honour of Knighthood...
.... decorated with the much-coveted Gold Cross for the general actions and assaults of Busaco,
Fuentes d'Onor, Ciudad Rodrigo, and Badajoz.
He had received nine wounds in battle, eight of which were considered dangerous
....received the star of a Spanish Order from Ferdinand VII.;
and, finally, was appointed Commander-in-Chief in Madras in August, 1836.

"Lieutenant-Colonel Alexander MacDonald Elder, of the Bombay Fusiliers,
...was born in the parish of Sleat, as was also his brother,
   Commander Benjamin John Elder."
   Both were nephews of Sir George Elder...." 



Benjamin John Elder  -   Antique Elephant from India

2nd side of Antique Elephant - Elder Crest


More details of Sir George Elder's service found in "Short memoirs"

from United Service Magazine, 1837, Pages 233-239.
Thanks to Miguel Mintzer-Elder.


Sir George Elder writes about the Battle at Badajoz
Digital Books, page 317-318
"Peninsular Sketches by actors on the scene" Vol. 1, edited by W.H. Maxwell.


In LDS microfiche:
 Old Parish Registers for Inverness (including Skye, SLEAT) See book titled: "THE MEN OF SKYE" 1902 for COLIN
 Colin ELDER and Agnes Mackie are parents of
     Jane         b. 28 May 1835 Sleat
      Eliza       b  23 Oct 1829 Sleat
      Margaret  b. 20 May 1828
     John         b. 19 JAN1831 Sleat
      George    b.  17 APR 1840 Sleat
      Alexander b. 3 DEC 1833 Sleat
 In "Highland & Island Emigration Society" Scotland.
Search database: ELDER
find ELDER and STEWART women on 7/29/1854 are
 leaving SLEAT, County Inverness (Camuscross "Lord McDonald of Skye)
 for Geelong Australia, Victoria (via Liverpool, on ship Hornet)
STEWART, KATE   age 39 b. 1815
ELDER, JANET      age 19 b. 1835
ELDER, Christian   age 19 b. 1835

See Sleat Local History Society:

Emigration Article refers to Alexander Macdonald Elder and his father, John Elder.
   "MacDonald and Elder, the company that ran the stores in Isle Ornsay in the early 1800s, also acted as emigration agents."
"Glencoe and Beyond" - Financial matters in Skye and Inverness

Skye, Sleat - Knock House -- also called "House of Knock"
3 miles from Isle Ornsay--Photo, by
The Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland


"In memory/of three brothers/COLIN ELDER/born 17th April 1796, died 18th April 1851/BENJAMIN JOHN ELDER/born 12th June 1807, died 25th January 1857/ALEXANDER McDONALD ELDER/born 12th Novr 1801. died 4th August 1857."

Kilmore Church map - Google
Directions to nearby IsleOrnsay where the ELDER family lived
  4.6 miles 8 min

….views over the ruins of Knock Castle c.1345

FIBIS (FAMILIES in British India Society) about inheritance of Sir George Elder, at his death, to John Elder, from Skye.

   "Adminstrations relating to India 1830 - 1839"  - Source Repository:  National Archives 1837
Date  31 Apr 1837    - " PROB 6/213, IR 26/245" - TNA Reference   PROB 6/213, IR 26/245
 " Sir, formerly of Waterloo Place, Middlesex, but late of Madras,
Knight Companion of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath,  a Major General HM Army, bach. [d 3 Dec 1836,
to John Elder of Knock, isle of Skye, co. Inverness, Esq. the brother, Estate Duty Registers], 9000 in province, Pts"

Searched for Geelong Australia and found a history page,
 that mentions
 "1983 - Elders IXL Woolstores complex establishment at Lara"

    RE:   "JOHN ELDER, cartographer, born in Caithness in 1500's"

Sailing Directions For The North Coast, by George Watson
 ...."The most likely candidate was John Elder,
 who was born in Caithness and was brought up In Skye and Lewis.
In 1543 Elder sent a letter and a 'plotte' or map of Scotland to King Henry VIII.
 As a cartographer he is  likely to have had the type of information which Lindsay needed."
In 1973 D.G. Moir suggested the John Elder (who signed himself Eldar)
was responsible for the depiction of Scotland on Mercator's map of 1564..." 

Google book online reference:
     for "The Scotish Gal," published 1831, by Smith, Elder & Co., 65, Cornhill, London
Vol. 1, page 294
         RE: Clan CHATTON:
            "Mac Pherson, Mac Intosh, Mac Duff, Mac Bean, Shaw,
     Farquharson, Mac Gillivray,
     Mac Qeen, Clark, Davidson, ELDER,
     and several others, as branches of Clan Chattan"

Smith and Elder both came from Banffshire, Scotland -- see research notes:

Elder at Culloden:
"John Elder, servant at Park, Banff, to Sir William Gordon of Park."
From Google Books:
   "Muster roll of Prince Charles Edward Stuart's army, 1745-46"


"From Brodie of Brodie (Lord Lyon) to the Duke of Newcastle, dated
from Brodie House 27th December 1746 (Newcastle Papers).
Full text of "[Culloden papers] More Culloden papers"

">My Lord
   >I beg Leave to acquaint Your Grace that Sir William Gordon of
Park who made his Escape cross the Murray Firth from Murray
to Sutherland some months ago Is still Lurking by the name of
Mr Grant in the County of Sutherland or Caithness, and That
when He went Into Sutherland He had The Earl of Sutherlands
Permission so to do and assurance of Protection.
  >All This I know to be True, But If it is known even by my
Friend the Earl of Sutherland That I am Your Grace's Informer,
It will prove of fatal Consequences to me.
   >I have the Honour to be with great Respect and Esteem,
   >My Lord Duke
   >Your Grace's most faithful and most obedij&nt sert.
     Alexr Brodie.
In spite of the above somewhat despicable information, Sir William
Gordon escaped to France. (A. & H. Tayler, "Jacobites of Aberdeenshire
and Banff shire in the Fortyflve," where this letter is also given). "

ELDER Crest Notes:
BRODIE family members gave the antique Elephant to BJ ELDER in India (nephew of Sir George ELDER of Isle of Skye):
   "Eastern bronze model of an elephant, mounted as a tooth pick holder in 1844 with silver coloured metal inscribed "To Capt. B.J.Elder from his affectionate little friends Eliza Gordon Brodie Russell and Lena H. Brodie Russell 1844."
The armorial to the reverse with the Elder family motto "Virtute Duce", may virtue be my guide.
Eliza Gordon Brodie Russell and Lena H. Brodie Russell were the grand daughters of The Rt Hon Sir Henry Russell Kt, 1st Baronet of Swallowfield, Berkshire 1751-1836. He was Chief Justice of Bengal 1807-1813. He married Anne Barbara Whitworth, sister of Charles Earl Whitworth 1764-1814.
They had a large family, and their 5th child, Francis Whitworth Russell 1790-1852 (known as Frank) married Jane Anne Catherine Brodie on 10th June 1823. She was the daughter of James Brodie of Brodie. Frank and Jane had at least 4 children including Eliza Gordon Brodie Russell 1831-1887 (who married Sir James Naesmyth of Posso, 5th Baronet 1827-1896) and Caroline H Brodie Russell 1834-? known as Lena who married Charles Goldsmid on 3rd May 1854. Both girls lived out their lives firstly in India, where Frank was a commissioner for investigating the debts of the Nabob of Arcot, and then in Scotland."

Map:  Cornhill, Banffshire (Gordon's Castle of Park)
 to Brodie Castle, near Forres, Moray, 44.2 mi, 1 hr 14 min


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