SPECULATIONS & CONCLUSIONS
In bold are the speculations and conclusions drawn from the research and letters of the Peavey families.Text in black italics are notes as to what other researchers have found and where they have searched for the information. If you have any other sources concerning these speculations which would help us find the facts, we would appreciate your emailing us:
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John Peverel-Peverly was an armigerous 'Knight' and carries the title 'Sir'.
'Westons men were all noblemen' which proves John was a knight.
Sir John Peverel-Peverly's shield, helmet and crest displayed with pride hung on the wall in the parlor of the Peaveys of Eastport Maine. It was taken to the Peavey Company who eventually headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It may have been destroyed in a fire but the directors of the company furnished wax impressions from their rings fashioned after the shield. On the wall of the long table in the board of DIRECTORS ROOM looms a massive wall plaque of the FULL ACCOMPLISHMENT of Sir John Peverly's shield, helmet and crest.
This could prove that John was a 'knight'. However, we have found no information that it said anything except 'Peavey'. Leroy Peavey in his report points out that no one knows for sure who this coat of arms belongs to. We can only speculate. So far we have not found records stating that this arms was indeed that of Sir John Peverel-Peverly. Nothing has been found in the College of Arms for this John Peverel. There have been no records found by our researchers that states "all of Weston's men were 'Noblemen.'"
Comments of Peter Kurtz who is a Peavey descendant ("Road Preacher" line). "I have information on the immigrant John Peverly, obtained from Nathaniel Adams' history of Portsmouth, NH, "Annals of Portsmouth," originally published in 1825. Peverly is mentioned on pages 15-16. He is listed as being one of about 50 "stewards and servants" sent by original Portsmouth settler John Mason to settle the surrounding areas New-Castle, Rye, and parts of Newington and Greenland, in 1631. He was not one of the 10 stewards singled out by Adams, therefore he was probably a servant.
The Peavey family has passed down one generation to another that they were Royal and descendants of William The Conqueror. Fern Galle's letters state that their family believes they are descended from Sir John Peverly, who was 'knighted' by Henry VIII and they believe his son was Edward mentioned in New Hampshire records in 1691 - age 21.
(There are some generation gaps here.)
John Peverly was born after the reign of Henry VIII. So he could not have knighted him.
The following is from Leroy Peavey's report: "Charles T. Peavey' Aunt Phoebe Ann Peavey (Mowe) once compiled notes that say there was a coat-of-arms or crest in their home in Eastport, Maine. The crest was a lion rampant gardant on a horizontal bar with the motto: "Deo, Non Fortuna". The notes said that a friend of hers had shown her the same crest and motto, claimed to have been given to the Pavy family of France. The same crest is shown in Fairbairn's "Book of Crests". Her notes say "the name Peavey originated in Dorsetshire, England: the escutcheon or shield, emine, white and blue, with one band or bar of honor: motto, Virtus Tulissima Cassia (Virtue is the Safest Helmet). The band is a scarf, given to Sirs John Brown and Peavey in the time of Henry VIII, for their bravery over the Spaniards in the low Countries, and is shown attached to the top of the shield in a diagram submitted by Charles T. Peavey." Leroy Peavey states in his report, "We do not know for sure to whom the above mentioned coat of arms belonged."
Peverell military alliances lost in a battle of the "War Of The Roses' trying to stop a Catholic king from ascending the throne. Peverel Knights and their families fed into exile for safety in Scotland where they had cousins Cummins and Neville.......Cousin Katherine Peverell Hungerford, part of the Peverell alliances, then had her immense holdings confiscated by the crown.........Later, when it was safe, family members slipped down into adjacent Durham County. One branch taking a variant name Pevereley, the other remaining Peverell.......Once more the huge holdings of Katherine Peverell were manned by her remaining armigerous cousins, her family being dead. This was the line of Sir John Peverel-Peverly and the vast estates he left in England were from Cousin Katherine Peverell Hungerford.
This is an assumption. However at this time there is no record with any source or proof of who John Peverel-Peverly's father was. An LDS record gives the name of William Peverel as his father but there are no sources and after getting in touch with the person who posted this info, he doesn't have his records anymore. He says they should be at the LDS library. We have not located those. We have found a William Peverel in England in the same time frame but the source does not name John as his son.
So far we have not been able to turn up records to show that John Peverel-Peverly owned vast lands.
Ingelrica was directly descended from Penardim, daughter of Joseph of Arimathea, on up through King Arthur into the Powis Kings. Ingelrica's father was by far the richest man in all of England just prior to the Conquest.
This is an assumption of Ingelrica's line. We have found some family trees with Ingelric listed as the son of Ethelred II. If this is true, then the above could be possible. However, we have found some records giving a different father for Ingelric. 'Pernardim' was the mother of Bran 'The Blessed'. Bran married Anna Enygeus bint Joseph of Arimathea and they had a daughter, 'Pernarden'.
See PEVEREL OF ROYAL DESCENT: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~royalancestors/names/i/ingelrica.html
When Sir John was of age the colonies were before King James on the planning table with Peverel blooded Gorges and Mason and Scottish born David Thompson, Sir John the Yeoman was part of the group. Sir John already a talented mariner owned his own ship and was chosen with cousin Pepperrell, also mariners, to explore the upper Atlantic, New Foundland, Nova Scotia and Maine Rivers to locate potential settlement sites for King James colonization.
The assumption that John Peverel-Peverly was in this group and met with the King was made because of the reports and history of Gorges, Mason and Thompson. Our Sources for JPV
# 6 - 'The Pioneers of Maine', page 392 - Appendix A. under The Tentative List: Braintree (Mount Wallaston, Massachusetts)
#4. John Peverly, 1622 or 1624 for Mason
The only records that we have to support the claim that John was a Yeoman and mariner are records showing that some of his descendants were referred to as 'Mariner' or 'Yeoman':
Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire'.
By Sybil Noyes, Charles T. Libby and Walter G. Davis.
PEAVEY, pgs. 536-537
John Peverly's Will of 1753' - Portsmouth - He says he is a 'Yeoman'. This John would be the great grandson of the John Peverel-Peverly the Immigrant. There so far has been nothing turned up that says that John was a 'mariner' and 'yeoman,' It is a conclusion that he was a mariner drawn because immigration records for John Peverly show that he made a number of trips between England and America
Sir John Peverel-Peverly - came to visit Plymouth Colony on the ship 'The Fortune' in 1621 to get a 'feel' for the navigation needed to transport planters and others.
SEE: THE FORTUNE 1621
After delivering the plantation party, John Peverly loaded 'his small ship Jonathan' with salted dried cod from his cousin Pepperrell over on the Isle of Shoals and stretched and dried beaver hides bartered for with the Indians for gold and silver coins, as encouraged by the King.
There are no records stating that John Peverly owned the ship 'Jonathan'. However, there is a record which shows that the ship "Jonathan of Plymouth," of 150 tons, was owned by Nicholas Sherwell and Abraham Colmer. The paragraph indicates they owned it from about 1622 to 1630. They were mayors and officials at one time in Plymouth, England.
October 3rd, 1631 was the time of the early evening massacre. Possibly Thomas was in the back house before it got dark, ran and hid as 'white men robbers dressed like Indians attacked the house.' In any event he was the only one who escaped the horrible robbery and massacre with Indian tomahawks while the house was being burned down to flush them out. The Sagamore tribe claimed innocence and none of the coins ever surfaced in the tribe.
We have found information supporting the attack on Bagnall and Peverly. However, no mention is made of Thomas Peverly and no sources turned up so far state that the attack was 'White men robbers dressed like Indians'. The sources below show that the attack was done by the Sagamore Indian Squidrayset and his company. They further indicate that Bagnall was shady in his dealings and cheated the Indians. They also state the John P--(Peverly) was his companion.
Sources for JPV
#6. Wilbur D. Spencer, 'Pioneers on Maine Rivers' with Lists to 1651, Portland, ME 1930+semi rpt. Bowie, MD, 1990.
#17. Massacre Source: John Winthrop's Journal(1908 edition, Volume 1: page 98)
#18. Sources: An account of the murders of Bagnall & Peverly by Squidreyset & his company is also found here: "Biography and History of the Indians of North America:" Comprising a General Account of Them and Details...
#19. Another account of the murder of Bagnall is found here:
"Indian Wars of New England" - Page 76
#20. Another source found here:
#21. Account of murders of Bagnall & Peverly: The Waterside
#22. Another source for the murders: Collections of the Maine Historical Society
Over 200 years later on Richmond Island, then partly cleared of forest, a plow share unearthed an earthen jar containing a gold signet ring with raised G.V. and gold and silver coins of John Peverly's era. There is some speculation that the ring belongs to John Peverly and that it is actually P.V. In the Old English writing the 'P' looks like our 'G' now. The jar contained 21 Gold coins and 31 silver coins. The cache included silver one-shilling pieces, sixpencees, groats and half groats of Elizabeth I, James I, and Charles I. The gold coins were sovereigns and half sovereigns from the reign of James I, Charles I, and a Scottish sovereign dated 1602.
The ring has been located at the Maine Historical Society & Museum in Portland, Maine. The ring appears to have been used as a stamp. They and all other sources agree that the initials are 'G.V.' There has been no source found that states to whom the ring belongs or that the initials are 'P.V.' instead of 'G.V.' Take a look at Daniel Peverly's will to see how the "P" was formed.
An article found in the Sun Journal of Lewiston, Maine dated Monday, July 27, 1998 gives another opinion concerning the owner of the coins and ring.
To speculate more, the ring could have been Bagnall's with the initials standing for 'Great Walt' as he was known. The 'W' a lot of times is pronounced sounding like a 'V'; or part of the 'W' could have been worn off the ring. There is no evidence thus far to substantiate the ownership of this ring.
"Four Centuries of Treasure" states: "Before Bagnall's demise it was thought he had accumulated a great sum of gold. Some historians think the Indians took what they wanted. Others assumed it was confiscated by the Massachusetts authorities. No one really knows what became of it, but two hundred years later, on the 11th of May, 1855, an earthen pot was plowed up on Richmond Island. In it were found 21 gold coins, 31 silver coins and 'a gold signet ring bearing the initials G.V.'"
(by PV'S of NEW ENGLAND RESEARCHERS)