The Golden Falcon

The Golden Falcon

Chapter XVI/3 - Swallow

Withycombe, Wiveliscombe: Thomas Winter aged 45, Sarah aged 45, Elizabeth aged 15 (1841 Census).


Webers, Wiveliscombe: Thomas Winter aged 30, labourer (1841 Census).


Ford Hamlet, Wiveliscombe: Thomas Winter aged 70, butcher, Elizabeth aged 60, Edward aged 23 (1841 Census).


William King, aged 9, all born in Somerset (1841 Census).


There is no trace of the origins of Thomas Winter (c. 1770-1846) of Ford, Wiveliscombe, butcher although the 1841 Wiveliscombe census indicated he was born in Somerset, he does not appear in the Wiveliscombe, Bishop's Lydeard, Fitzhead, Halse, West Begborough, Clatworthy, Combe Florey or Brompton Ralph but "family memory" suggests Clatworthy.


West Sumpting Gate, Wiveliscombe: Thomas Winter aged 55, labourer, Sarah wife aged 59 (1851 census).


Ford hamlet, Wiveliscombe: John Winter aged 39, butcher, Elizabeth aged 35,his wife, Anne aged 3, daughter, Charles aged 1, son - all born in Wiveliscombe (1851 census).


No. 108.  Westcott, Brompton Ralph: Charles Winter, aged 53, farmer with 260 acres employing 5 men, 2 boys, a carter, aged labourer, general servant, Mary his wife aged 55, born Elworthy, son Alfred Featherstone, schoar born Winchscombe.


No. 103.  Bowden, Brompton Ralph: James Winter, unmarried, aged 56, farmer with 100 acres, employing 1 man, 2 boys, a servant, a carter, an agricultural labourer, Elizabeth, his mother aged 83 born Brompton Ralph.


No. 23.  Risford Hill, Brompton Ralph: Elizabeth Winter, aged 80, owner of house, born Luxborough.


No. 34.  Risford Hill, Brompton Ralph: Timothy Winter carpenter, born B|rompton Ralph, Anne his wife, aged 38, born Merton Wiltshire, daughter Mary Ann aged 1 born Brompton Ralph..


Weare Mills, Wiveliscombe: Thomas Winter aged 69, agricultural labourer born Wiveliscombe, Sarah Winter aged 60, wife born Withypool (1861 census).


Elizabeth Winter of Wiveliscombe, died 19.9.1856, Will proved Taunton 10.6.1858 probate granted to Richard Hill, butcher of Wiveliscombe, executor £450  (she was Peter Winter's great great grandmother.  Hill was her brother-in-law.  [Abstracts of Somerset Wills - Rev. F. Brown].


Betty Hill's parents originated in Lydeard St. Lawrence.  Her father Edward Hill (1748-1809) was a prosperous butcher at Ford, Wiveliscombe whilst her brother John Hill, gent, was also a prosperous butcher at Ford (1780-1891).


King Street, Wiveliscombe: in the household of Richard Hill, aged 35, butcher, Elizabeth Hill aged 30, Elizabeth Bailey aged 8 , all born in Somerset (1841 Census).


In the household of John Hill, aged 35, butcher, John Winter aged 25, butcher both born in Somerset (1841 Census).


John Hill 69, farmer, unmarried, Fanny Bailey aged 26 servant, unmarried, Mary Bailey, married, Anna Bailey aged 8, visitor born Halse, the rest born Wiveliscombe (1851 census).


Frog Street, Wiveliscombe: Richard Hill, aged 50, butcher born Skilgate, Elizabeth Hill aged 46, wife, William King aged 18, nephew, farmer's sons, Elizabeth Bailey aged 18 niece unmarried, Emily Bailey 13, niece all born Wivelscombe (1851 census).


King Street, Wiveliscombe: Richard Hill aged 60, butcher and farmer born Skilgate, Betsy Hill aged 56, wife born Wiveliscombe, Emily Bailey aged 23, niece, spinster born Halse, Charles Winter aged 11, nephew born Wiveliscombe, William Yandle aged 18, apprentice butcher, born Wiveliscombe (1861 census).


John Hill aged 79, widower, born Wiveliscombe, Mary Bailey aged 61, visitor, butcher's wife, born Wiveliscombe, Fanny Bailey aged 36, unmarried, housekeeper (1861 census).


Ford, Wiveliscombe - Fanny Bailey aged 46, unmarried, born Wiveliscombe, Elizabeth Bailey aged 39, sister, unmarried, born Halse (1871 census).


In the household of John Hill, 32, limeburner, Hannah Hill aged 26, Sarah Hill aged 6 months, all born in Somerset (1841 Census).


Betsy aged 72, widow and former butcher's wife born Wiveliscombe, mother-in-law of John Hill aged 42, lime burner, born Lydeard St. Lawrence, Anne Hill aged 35, wife and Sarah Hill aged 10, daughter born in Wiveliscombe (1851 census).


Ford, Wiveliscombe: John Hill aged 52 , lime burner born Lydeard St. Lawrence, Hannah Hill, aged 46 wife, born Wiveliscombe, Sarah Hill aged 20, daughter, unmarried, born Wiveliscombe (1861 census).


William Collard of Wiveliscombe, Somerset, printer, Will made 16.1.1859, proved 9.2.1858 £300 mentions "to Jane Dally, daughter of my late daughter Jane Thorne Manley Dally £40, residue to ny grandsons William Powell & James Waldron".  Executors Thomas Newton of Wiveliscombne, ironmonger and James Clathworthy of Wiveliscombe, accountant.  Administration and probate granted to William Powell Collard of 8, Buyrose Street, Commercial Road, St. Georges, London.


Reginald D. Winter, whose mother was a Dalley, was born in Langport, Somerset [Register District, ref. 5C/536].


William Collard, a Non-Conformist, also of Bristol, was elder brother of Nicholas Collard of Wiveliscombe (1774-1863) both were sons of William Collard of Golden Hill, Wiveliscombe, clothier and his wife Anne nee Collard.  (Nicholas was Peter Winter's great great great grandfather).  Thomas Newton and James Clatworthy were relatives.  Thomas Newton wrote a description of Wiveliscombe of 1800 (about 50 years later) in an old Somerset County Gazette.


The Colland & Collard piano company in London belonged to a member of this family.


High Street, Wiveliscombe: William Collard aged 78, widower, printer's copmpositor, Jane Collard 33 (38?), daughter, Eliza L. Dally aged 5, grandchild - all born at Cifton, Bristol (1851 census).


William Collard aged 45, farmer of 100 acres, Mary Collard aged 45, wife, Mary aged 1, Fanny aged 11, Jane aged 10, Ann aged 8, Alicie aged 6, daughters, all born Wiveliscombe (1861 census).


Church Street, Wiveliscombe: Nicholas Collard aged 85, widower, late clothier, Margaret aged 44 daughter, spinster, baker, Betsy aged 14, grand daughter, draper's apprentice - all born Wilveliscombe (1861 census).


Ford, Wiveliscombe: William Collard aged 56, farmer of 100 acres, Mary aged 54, wife, Mary Winter aged 23, daughter married, Anne Collard, aged 17, Alice Collard, daughters Fred Collard aged 3 grandson (1871 census).


Golden Hill, Wiveliscombe:  Charlotte Lewis aged 67 ,widow, school mistress born Clovelly, Devon Fanny (Hazel?) aged 55, unmarried, needlewoman , lodger, John (Turner?) aged 22 married, labourer, lodger, born Axminster, Charles Winter aged 22, married, harness maker, lodger, born Wiveliscombe, Walter Collard aged 22 unmarried, labourer, born Ashbrittle (1871 census).


Church Street, Wiveliscombe: Mary Collard, aged 65, farmer's widow, Mary Winter aged 33, daughter, dressmaker, widow, Ann Collard aged 23, daugher unmarried, John Winter aged 9 grandson - all born Wiveliscombe (1881 census).


Golden Hill, Wiveliscombe: in the household of Robert Newton (religion Independent) aged 60, Elizabeth Newton, aged 60, Mary Newton, aged 3, Anne Newton aged 20, all born in Somerset (1841 Census).


Ford, Wiveliscombe: John Collins aged 57, labourer born Wiveliscombe, Mary Collins aged 60, wife, nurse born West Bayborough, Elizabeth Collins aged 25, daughter, John Collins aged 23, son both born Wiveliscombe (1851 census).


George Davis, 35 innkeeper & blacksmith, born Nettlecombe, Elizabeth Davis aged 32, wife, Francis Davis aged 3, daughter, Alice Daisy Davis, aged 7, daughter all born Wiveliscombe.  This household appears in 1871 census at Brompton Ralph (1881 census).


A John Winter of Langley, Wiveliscombe, butcher is listed in Pigot's Directory for 1830.


John Winter in his Will appointed "my good friend John Southey of Taunton, gent" as one of his 2 trustees.  One of the 2 witnesses was William Kingslake (kinsman of A. E. Kingslake who wrote "Eothen") possibly a Taunton banker and politician.  John Winter's residence in Bishop's Lydeard was East Coombe.  Betty Winter who married Richard Inman in 1783 at Spaxton was alive in 1785 - their issue included a family of Southey-Inman at Combe Florey in the earlier part of the 19th century which had connectections with the poet laurate Robert Southey (1774-1843) whose grandfather, Thomas Southey, was a farmer at Lydeard St. Lawrence.


John Winter of East Coombe, Bishops Lydeard, yeoman whose Will dated 132.4.1785, proved on 15.9.1878 mentions "my nephew John Winter, son of my late brother James Winter".


Joseph Winter of Bishop Lydeard, Somerset, labourer, Will made on 23.7.1832, died on 25.7.1832 proved, executors Thomas Winter of Wiveliscombe, servant, beneficiaries Mary Bailey niece, Thomas Winter, brother, John Winter, brother, effects £100 divided equally between the 3 beneficiaries.  [Estate Death Duty Registers PRO, London].


Catherine Upton of Fitzhead, widow, Will made 28.6.1665, proved 16.2.1665-6 "to Robert, Mary, Frances, Roger and Alexander, children of John Winter, my kinsman, deceased £40."  Before 1858 there was a Prebendary Court (a "peculiar") of Wiveliscombe.  In an Index of Wills proved there (Soc. of Gen) the only Winter is 1721 - Alexander Winter of Fitzhead (Letters of Administration only).


Henry Winter Esq., of Pightley House, Spaxton, Somerset late of 38, College Street, Brighton, Sussex died 16.11.1887 at Brighton, Will (Pr. probate) £36,272 re-sworn to £35, 697.  Executors Charles Winter of Bridge Hill, Canterbury, Kent Esq., and Rev. George William Winter of the Rectory, Little Frensham, Norfolk, brothers.


Herbert Gregory Winter of Sunny Nook, Langley Cross, Wiveliscombe died 31.3.1949 at Musgrave Park Hospital, Taunton, Will £5,568 proved Taunton 15.8.1945.  Executors Arthur Stanley Rogers, company director, Thomas James Mountstevens Barring, solicitor and William Winter, pilot officer RAF.  H.G. Winter died at the age of 58 years.


Samuel Henry Winter of Culverley, Wiveliscombe, gent died 5.12.1895 aged 67 years.  Will £638.  Executors Samuel Henry Winter, Lieut. Colonel HM Army Service Corps.  Both H. G. Winter and S. H. Winter descended from a family which came to Wiveliscombe after the 1881 census.


Charles Winter of Wiveliscombe, butcher, died 17.1.1879 Will proved Taunton, probate granted to Henry James Jenner, solicitor's clerk, sole executor £200. ["Abstracts of Somerset Wills" - Rev. F. Brown].


Another family descended from James Winter of Brompton Regis, Somerset who married Grace Tarr on 19.10.1781 but this James was not born there.


There were several branches of the Winter family in Somerset, one of whom emigrated to Australia.


Mr Charles G. Winter of Kent Street, Busselton, West Australia (b. 1867) who wrote to the Rev. Charles Henry Winter of the "King's Peace", Grayshott, Hindhead, Surrey on 23.2.1949 appears to be descended from a Winter family of Wiveliscombe,  He said "my father said there was always a John in the family" and that his grandfather's name was William.  He did not know the name of his great grand father but having such a string of Johns, assumed it was John.


Mr Winter took part in the Boer War and the Great War (when he was over age) so did all his sons.  He was on the Somme, in the 11th Battalion.  His eldest son Charles was in a Pioneer Battalion and won the Military Medal.  Noel, his second son in the 16th Battalion, was at Gallipoli, was wounded and invalided home, John the youngest in the same Battalion as his father, was wounded in he first hop over and invalided home.  Both Noel and John were under age, C.G.W. five years over.


"I was born in Naberth in 1867 and my father, mother and my brother sailed for Australia about 1879, I being then about two.  Father certainly came of a Devonshire family and was steeped in the atmosphere and recollections of farmers and clotted cream of the great old country.


My grandfather, William Winter, moved with his young wife (he 19, she 18) to Wales, first to Tenby and later to Narberth, Pembrokeshire where he died at the patriarchal age of 96, having brought up a family of 14 (7 uncles, 7 aunts).  I remember well both he and grandmother, who was also born in Devon.  He was a poulterer and had (considering his handicaps with family), quite a prosperous business.


(Narberth, Pembrokeshire 1861 census No. 4149 - No. 37, Red Stone: William aged 47, poulterer born Brompton Ralph, Somerset, Sarah wife aged 48, born Widescombe, Somerset, son John aged 23, cabinet maker born Tenby, Pembrokeshire, Sarah aged 11, born Tenby, Timothy aged 12 scholar born Narberth, Joseph aged 11, Sophia aged 8, Charles aged 6, Julia aged 4, Eva aged 2).


My uncle Tim, however (who was one of the younger sons), was a bachelor who became, quite naturally, a partner with Grandad.  After passing most of the dangers of life and who had arrived at what appeared to be a safe age of bachelorhood, met his fate and married.  From that time things altered and his new wife took over poor Uncle Tim and poor old Grandad, they lost their liberty and were in chains for the rest of their lives, which oddly enough, was not long.


When I was on leave during the World War, I found there were no Winters in or near Narberth.


There were the Wynters.  Whether those represent the eldest of the family or the ones who could not spell, I do know know.,  They are a pretty well-to-do lot in Victoria, I fancy.


Another Devon worthy appears to have been my great grandfather who could walk 20 miles a day when he was more than 100 - he died at the age of 102.


"Book of Wellington", (Somerset) published 1981 contained photo of an extremely old and bearded Winter (Thomas?) of Wellington who died there at the end of the last century - his life-span stretched back into the 18th century.


When I grasped the fact that Lydney (new to me) was in Gloucestershire and that Devon was not the centre of the Admiral's activities, it will show you how really hazy my ideas were.


My father also spoke of an "old Stone" [Red Stone, Somerset] which I inferred meant some relation of my grandmother's (probably her father).  I was small at the time and not much interested and later it did not occur to me to ask him.


My mother was Welsh from good stock on her mother's side and was a remarkable and intelligent woman.  My maternal grandmother left her people (Church of England), for religious scruples and became a Baptist.  When my father arrived in Australia, we joined up with members of my mother's family who were already there.  My Uncle John Morris, Aunt Elizabeth Wallace and her two daughters and son.


My grandfather's son Charles, in London invented a camera, was associated with Swan and the early cinema.  He was secretary of the Imperial Dry Plate Co. when I met him in London during my leave in the war.


My Uncle Ben ran away to sea, did well in sail and then steam.  He had two sons, chief engineers, one a marine super, Lloyds Builds.  Uncle Edward ran away to the army.  They were very strictly brought up, there the results.


The younger ones were gently treated, but results were average with few exceptions - one, my father , who was a cabinet maker and a very exceptional one, a real artist, whom William Morris would have loved, a quiet serene man, a real Christian, a poor businessman and therefore a poor man all his days.


My brother William went to South Africa where he made a success of a speciality of his own - pressed cement - a large concern now run by his son in Johannesburg.


(James William Winter of Pietermaritzburg, Natal, South Africa, gent. d. 26.2.1886.  Will with Letters of Administration (Princ probate), estate valued at £40.  Executors William Frederick Tarn of the City of London, solicitor and Georgina Julia Winter of Pietermaritzburg, widow, the relict Georgina was sole executor when probate was granted).


As far as I know most of my grandparents' descendants were fairly average people. - my father and Uncle Charles being well above.


A point of interest in them by all is the amount of real ability in matters mechanical in a large proportion (not in me).  My own sons for instances, Charles and Noel, are exceptional indeed.  John is a senior man in the Investigation Board (brains of the Department) of the Customs and far above average.  A strong Puritan strain is all evident in many of us - I know it in my own case - together with the devil.


My brother William was a Quaker - he died.


As for myself., by my dear mother's foresight, I had when at school, at Warrnabool, Victoria, tutorship in Latin, which I absorbed like a sponge (no merit to me) and to my great surprise, I was constantly first in my class - this has been a constant pleasure to me all my life.


I have been increasingly aware of the beauty of words all my life, a good deal from habit (overlooked by my mentors at the time), of reading my own choice from the Bible while very dull (do me) sermons were being preached  This was during my youth and was a real break to me as Sunday was an almost continuous service.  I have, as a consequence, a great knowledge and appreciation of the beauty of the language of the Authorised Version.


My early apprenticeship as a book seller gave me lots of opportunity and took me to about the age of 24 when my dear mother died and so shook us all up that I cut town life and we all - father, brother and self - took up land in Tasmania where we then were and all threw up good money to do so.


I then had about 8 years of pioneering, marrying while there, the dear wife and companion who accompanied me for 52 years, dying 3 and half years ago.


In Tasmania and Australia at the time there was a bank crash and the bottom went out of things.  I had to sell my current deposit for 10/- in the pound.  My brother having already gone there, I went to Johannesburg.  My father died at this time at the age of 67 and this clinched my decision to go.  I had to joined up there with some irregulars in the Boer War and finally got my discharge in Johannesburg.  All sorts of openings were available and for about 10 years things went well.  I later sent my family back to Tasmania for a holiday (wife was not well) and after 18 months my partnership agreements (musical instruments) came to an end and my partner elected (as he had the right) to buy me out.  I realised all assets and went back to Australia - Tasmania first to pick up my wife and children.


I got in touch with a friend of my boyhood in Perth and bought a farm from him on the then new wheatbelt, a fine partly-developed property and struck a snag at once, my first year of returns almost nil through drought, the first of a series.  I carried on for quite a while, with one good season, out of three, land went down to nothing, no money available and I had to surrender everything.  This property, conditions changing, was sold for £14,000 within 2 years.


Since then and the First War, having been trying to get back (no could do) always making a little more than enough but not enough to cut a dash again.  I worked at a Government job till I was 71 and regulations belatedly booted me out.


John junior was in the Air Force, discharged Flight Sergeant, was listed for Commission when fighting ceased.


"There is one person so far not mentioned, my dear daughter Gwenllian who was born in the Transvaal, the boys all having begun life in Tasmania.  She and I live together, she is on the staff of the Royal Bank, a successor to the Agricultural Bank the last being a clean-up from group settlement, when a large attempt was made to settle the south west of this start.  I was for many year, a supervisor in this scheme which had prove a very great success.


I fancy if I were home again (no hope) I could dig up something at Wiveliscombe where my great grandfather must have died - and perhaps check backwards from whatever obscurity there may then have been."


Rev. Charles Henry Winter commented: "This John won the high jump at the Olympic Games in London in  1948.  I heard of this on the wireless and wrote thinking he might possibly be one of the sons of my younger brother Daly who went to Australia with his numerous family - he started with 12 and landed with 13.  I did not know his address.  John came for 3 weeks to us at the Lower Bourne, Farnham  - a charming unassumingly lad, over 6 ft tall.  John junior told me that his grandfather was very devoted to a cat, which accompanied him everywhere - in towns he led him with a lead like a dog, other times he simply followed.


Wiveliscombe mentioned by Mr Charles G. Winter as being in Devonshire (locally pronounced Wilscombe), is a parish and market town, situated on elevated ground in a combe or valley among lofty hills, in West Somerset, 11 miles west of Taunton.  This parish is close to the borders of Devon.


I wrote to the vicar of Wiveliscombe but he could only send me the name of a few Winters buried there - some had no age given - in the 1800s.  It would appear as if the Winters had only made a passing stay in the parish and nothing further is known of them.


Burials at Wiveliscombe sent to the Rev. Charles Henry Winter by the vicar:


06.03.1803 - William Winter, no age given

24.00.1808 - Edward Winter, no age.

07.07.1840- Thomas Winter, aged 67 years

20.03.1829 - Thomas Winter aged 25 years.

02.02.1834 - John Winter.


Another Australian family descended from the Winters of Coldshields, Co. Durham:


Fig. 155 - Winter of Coldshields, Co. Durham & Victoria, Australia.


Thomas Winter of Coldshields (d.c. 1804) = Betty Yellowlees (b. 30.6.1794, d 12.8.1875) > eldest son John Winter of Lauder, Berwickshire went to Victoria, Australia in 1842, owner of Winter's Freehold Gold Mine, Ballarat >:

(a) James Winter (b. Edinburgh 1834), JP of Winter Bros, Murchison, Victoria = (1)

     Pettit (d. Norwood 4.2.1885 = (2) Janet Margaret Irving, d. of John Irving of

     Banshaw, Dumfries > 2nd son Hon. William Irving Winter-Irving (b. 20.2.1840 in

     Scotland) of Goulborn River, Moira, Victoria, member Legislative Council who on

     24.1.1889 took the surname of Winter-Irving under Royal Licence [London Gazette

       p.  668, January 1889] = 30.6.1881 Frances Amelia Taylor >:5 sons born in Australia >:

     1. John Irving Winter-Irving (b. 10.8.1872).

     2. William Irving Winter-Irving (b.4.1.1876).

     3. Oliver Irving Winter-Irving (b.

     4. Cyril Naismith Irving Winter-Irving (b. 30.12.1886 d. 13.11.1890?).

     5. Frances Irving Winter-Irving.

     6. Maria Irving Winter-Irving.

     7. Amy.

     8. Elsie

     9. Laura

   10. Florence [pp.157/8, 792/3 Burke's "Colonial Gentry"].


The 3rd quarter of their arms was "chequey or and sable, a fesse argent, charged with a saltire couped gules, 2 flaunches of last, each charged with 2 trefoils slipps of 1st" (Winter), Crest "Upon a wreath of the colours, a dexter cubit arm in armour" and another was "a hind trippant argent supporting with a sinister forefoot a saltire gules gorged with a collar flory county flory" (Winter) - (Fox Davies "Armorial Families).  This shows a descent from Dyrham, Norfolk or Worcester.


The General Armory gives the following arms for the various branches:


Winter, Lydney "sable, a fesse ermine, on a canton or, a lion rampant gules."

Winter, Lydney "sable, a fesse ermine, on a canton argent, a lion rampant gules."


Winter, Gloucester & Worcester - "sable, a fesse ermine".  Crest: "a cubit arm erect habited or, in the hand proper 3 ostrich feathers, the middle sable, the others gold."


Winter, Aldeburgh, Suffolk "sable, a fesse ermine, on a canton of the 2nd, a lion rampant of the 1st."  Crest: "A cubit arm erect habited or, holding in the hand 3 ostrich feathers, the middle one sable, the outer or".  These are also the arms of the Surrey branch.


Winter of Surrey "sable, a fesse ermine, on a canton ermine, a lion rampant sable."


Winter of Brecon - "sable, a fesse ermine, on a chief, a crescent of the 2nd".


Winter, Cantref Talne (Tal-y-llyn), Brecon - "checky sable and or, a fesse gules".  Crest: "A heathcock proper".


Winter of Llangain - 1. “checky or and sable , a fess gules” [p. Geo. O.,1, 19v; TJC in heraldic roll of 1608, of Jevan Jones of Southwark CA, Muniment Room MS 3/26, 2; Walter Hopkins, 1623, in roll, of Jevan Jones of Newington Butts, CA, Muniment Room MS 3/26m1].


English sources give the same arms [Peter le Neve, f. 140, No., 6, for Winter of North Beckham].


“checky a fess” [seal, with name, 10 Richard II, PRO E40/11143]


2. “sable a fess ermine and a canton ermine, a lion rampant sable” [p. Walter Hopkins, 1632 as above].


Philip Winter of Castell y Garthen changed to coat 2.


Winter of Huddington - "checky or and sable, a fesse gules" (at Chastleton, Oxfordshire given as Edward = Katherine Throckmorton but she married Robert not Edward unless as Edward's widow she married for a second time or Edward's wife was another Katherine.


Winter of Dyrham, Barningham in Norfolk & Worcester - "checky or and sable, a fesse argent."  Crest. "A hind passant ducally gorged, lined and ringed or".


Winter of Leicester "checky argent and sable, impaling gules a fesse argent."

Winter of Leicester "checky or and sable, a fesse argent."


Winter of Canterbury, Kent "checky or and sable impaling sable a fesse gules with an annulet sable" proabably descended from Matheus Vinitarius who held a tenement in Canterbury in 1252 (Inquisition postmortem No. 20, 36 Henry III).


Others in Kent were:


John Winter, rector of Southfleet and Prebendary of Canterbury (d. January 1606) Will proved 13.1.1605 in Prerogative Office of Canterbury.


John Winter, bailiff of Canterbury (1446)

John WInter, mayor of Canterbury (1454).

John Winter manor of Canterbury (1459).


John Winter MP at Westminster for Canterbury in 1498 (28 Henry VI).


Blaze Winter surrendered Bridewell or Poor Priests' hospital in 1575 (17 ELizabeth I).


John Winter and his wife Joan gifted lamp lands in their Will for the maintenance of a lamp within the church of St. Margarets forever in 1549 (2 Edw VI).  Blaze was archdeacon there on 16.3.1575.


Mr Winter owned a house at Herne in 1783.


Francis Rutland gent, alienated the manor of Apulton, Appleton or Bramling to John Winter clerk, prebendary of Canterbury.  In1605 Winter devised to John.  His lands and tenements in Ickham called Appington passed to Dean of that parish.


In 1653 Stephen Solley and his sons John and Stephen conveyed Little Walmestone in 1653 to Thomas Winter, yeoman of Wingham.


The two different arms are linked by one in the south window of the church of Barningham Winter, Norfolk "argent, a fesse ermine, cotised sable" (Winter) impaling "or, a cinquefoil, sable" (Hethersett).


The explanation given for the change to "checky or and sable" was that the Winters were followers of the earls of Warrenne & Surrey and took their lord's arms with a slight differencing.  The Brecon braches seem to have borne both, Roger Winter of Wych bore"checky argent and sable, a fesse ermine" and the Barningham family "checky or and sable, a fesse argent."


Rev. Charles Henry Winter (b. Ceylon of English parentage) was convinced his family descended from Sir William Winter of Lydney (never proved) and drew up a "Winter Pedigree."  During his research into his own family history, he was sent the John "Strange" Winter "Reminiscences" by another Rev. Charles Henry Winter of Norfolk.


The following Winter families are mentioned in Rye’s “Norfolk Families”:


Winter of Norwich & Drayton.  Of late the name has been common in Norwich.  Thomas Winter was Sheriff in 1565.  Christoipher Winter was admitted freeman in 1810.


James Winter was father of James Green Winter, admitted freeman in 1816 and of John (James?) Winter junior, and as a clerk was admitted freeman in 1817.  He is not to be confounded with (1) James Winter, who died at Drayton Lodge in 1876, in his 80th year.  He was Speaker of the Norwich Council Chamber, Director fo the Norwich Union Fire Office and father of (1a) (not given).


(2a) Lieutenant Colonel Henry Burton Winter, who married Maud Lavinia daughter of W. S. Sewell, Sheriff of Quebec and died 1882, leaving 3 sons, viz. Harrie Sewallis, Cecil Burton and Walter James (d. 1894).


(2) James John Winter, J.P. of Drayton Lodge, Vice President and Director of the Norwich Union Fire Office, Sheriff at Norwich in 1882, who married first Sophia Catherine Barnwell, daughter of the Rev. Charlesi Herring (who assumed the name of Barnwell) by Sophia, daughter of George Thomas Wyndham of Cromer and grand daughter of John Herring, Sheriff of Norwich in 1826, by Catherine Barnwell (see Launditch ii p. 389 and ante p. 28) and secondly Elizabeth Caroline, daughter of Sir Henry Robinson D.L., J.P., of Knapton.  Mr Winter has issue by his first wife; one son, Wyndham Barwell Winter, d.s.p. and 4 daughters, (1) Sophia (2) Adelaide Maude Marion (3) Mabel Grace and (4) Arabella Catherine.


Mr J. Winter (1) who died 1876s had 2 daughters (1) Virginia Sarah married the Ven. Archdeacon Crosse, by whom she had (a.) the Ven. Frank Crosse, Archdeacof Chesterfield; (b) Georgina Elizaa married the Rev. C. L. Rudd, M.A., Rector of Hempstead.


Winter, Charles was Sheriff of Norwich in 1846 and Mayor in 1851.  He was head of the large bootmaking firm now known as Southall & Co.  The arms of the of the Barningham family were improperly used for him at St. Peter Mancroft (see Farrer iii p.111).


Winter, another Norfolk famaily of the name derived thus:


(1) John Winter of Acton, solicitor of the Bank of England [this is the John Strange Winter family who claimed descent from Lydney], father of:


(12) Roger Winter, barrister at law of Calcutta, father of:


(3) The Rev. George Robert Winter, Hon. Canon of Norwich Cathedral (d 1895), Vicar of Swaffham, once President of the O.U.B.C. and stroke of the Brasenose boat.


Particulars of Places mentioned in the "Pedigree", being data collected by Rev. Charles Henry Winter of Ceylon.


"Lydney is a town on the right bank of the Severn, west Gloucestershire, 9 miles north north east of Chepstow.  The trade of Lydney depends chiefly on the extensive tin-plate work and on agriculture.  Iron mining is not now carried on.  The harbour known as Lydney Creek, admits of vessels of considerable burden.  The tessellated pavement and other Roman antiquities found there have led some antiquaries to identify Lydney with the station Abone.  Lydney Park, a handsome edifice in Elizabethan style, stands in an extensive park.


Dyrham is a parish in west Gloucestershire, 4 and half miles south east of Chipping Sodbury.  The church of St.Peter is Decorated and Perpendicular and has a Norman font; thgere is a brass of 1401, with mutilated canopies and an inscription in Latin verse, also a canopied monument of 1581 with figures.  Dyrham Park of 250 acres with a house designed by Sir John Vanbrough is a seat.  [Cassell's "Gazetteer of Great Britain and Ireland", 1900].


Robert Wynter Blathwayt, JP Gloucestershire & Somerset, born 7.7.1850, eldest son of Rev. Wynter Thomas Blathwayt, address Dyrham Park, Chippenham ["Who's Who", 1939].


Rev. Wynter Edward Blathwayt, Trinity College, Cambridge BA (1882), MA (1885), D & F (1887), Rector of Dyrham (1910).  [Crockford's "Clerical Directory" 1918-19].


Rev. F. L. Blathwayt, Oxford (d. 1900), P. (1901), Rector of Dyrham 1929. ["The Church Directory", 1936].

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