159702218. Amadeus IV Count of Savoy
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 28-31.
159702232. Robert de Vere 3rd Earl of Oxford
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), page 156, line 120-1.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 156, line 120-1.
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 156, line 120-1.
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 156, line 120-1.
5Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 156, line 120-1.
159702233. Isabel de Bolbec Countess of Oxford
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), Line 120-1.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, line 154-3.
159702288. Robert fitz Roger 2nd Lord Warkworth, lord of Clavering
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 156-2.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 246D-27.
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, line 156-2.
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 246D-27.
5Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 246D-27.
6Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, line 156-2.
159702289. Lady Margery de Chesney de Norwich
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 246D-27.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 156-2.
159702336. Jocelin of Louvain lord of Petworth
1Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), X:441, notes c, j (Percy).
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 161-24.
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 161-24.
159702337. Agnes de Percy
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 161-24.
2Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), X:441, notes c, j (Percy).
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 161-24.
159702338. Adam II de Brus
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 161-25.
2Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
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"Subject: Re: Hommet family
Date: 05/18/2000
Author: J.C.B.Sharp <[email protected]>
2. Adam de Bruis, granted the church of Brix to the priory of la Luthumière 1144 (Gerville 234), Henry II confirmed this with other gifts 1156x1161 (Delisle & Berger, Recueil des Actes de Henry II, i 331), the castle at Brix was known as Chateau d'Adam. Barrow, realising that this could not be Adam de Brus I of Skelton who died 1143, makes him his son Adam II (Kingdom of the Scots 322), but he was a minor at this date. The inference that Robert de Brus of Skelton was lord of Brix has therefore no foundation. <<snip>>."3Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 136-25.
159702339. Juetta de Arches
1Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
As you have commented, K. Keats-Rohan in Domesday Descendants [p.354, 355] has listed Adam I de Brus of Skelton(d.1142) as married to Agnes of Aumale, and Adam II Brus (d.1196) as married to Juetta de Arches. This is in variance with Farrer's observations in vol. 3 of Early Yorkshire Charters in which the opposite placement is upheld. The situation is not helped by CP which claims [VII : 670] that Agnes of Aumale married William de Roumare and secondly Piers de Brus. A study of the chronology tends to support K-R's findings. Stephen de Aumale, Agnes' father, came of age in 1090, indicating that he was born about 1069. He married Hawise de Mortemer and they had 3 sons (William, Ingelram and Stephen) and 3 or 4 daughters (Matilda, Adelisa are names of two), of whom Agnes was supposedly the youngest. and succeeeded his father who had died about 1127.[CP VII : 670 ; K-R Domesday Descendants p.225]. Stephen's son and heir is mentioned in a charter of 1115. [EYC 3 ; no1304]. Assuming this is William le Gros, he was born before 1109, as he was of age in 1130. At a rough guess based on the dates of William le Gros, as a younger child Agnes would have been born between 1110-1120. This would place her more appropriately as wife of Adam I, than Adam II, as the latter was born in 1134 (of age in 1155). On the death of Adam I de Brus she had borne two sons - Adam and William. Adam the younger was placed in the custody of William le Gros, Count of Aumale. The only piece of evidence which supports a marriage between the Brus/Aumale families is the claim in 1276, on the death of Avelina de Forz without issue, some 150 years after the supposed event, of the four coheirs of Peter de Brus to the Holderness estate. Walter de Fauconberg and Agnes, Marmaduke Thweng and Lucy, Margaret widow of Robert de Ros, John de Bella Aqua and Laderina claimed to be heirs by descent from Agnes de Aumale. Agnes de Aumale married [secondly] William de Roumare and had three sons (William, Robert and Roger) by him before his death in 1151 [K-R DD : p.670]. The eldest, William later Earl of Lincoln was still a minor in 1165 so was born later than 1144. This certainly fits within the chronology as Adam I died in 1142. Juetta de Arches married Roger de Flamville (d.1169) who held the 7 Arches knights' fees in her right in 1166. [Charles Clay (ed.) 'Early Yorkshire Families', p.2]. She had children by de Flamville but the fees eventually descended to Peter de Brus II indicating that her Brus children were her eventual heirs, not the Flamville ones. Her children by Roger Flamville were in the custody of Adam II during their minority. Adam II is known to have had two children - Piers and Isabel who married Henry de Percy. In 1193 Juetta gave land in Askham to her daughter Isabel de Brus. The charter clearly says "Noveritis me concessisse et presenti carta confirmasse Isabelle de Brus filie mee et heredibus suis totam terram de Ascham..." Farrer uncharacteristically makes the error of assuming that
"From: Rosie Bevan ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Domesday Descendants corrections: Harcourt & Brus
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-06-05 18:38:09 PST
Hi Cris
Isabella was her granddaughter [EYC I ; no. 548, 549]. As Juetta died in 1206, she would have had to have been nearly 90 had she been mother of Adam II de Brus (b 1134). A not impossible achievement, but highly unlikely for the time and place. Cheers Rosie."2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 136-25.
159702342. Walter de Berkeley Chamberlain of Scotland
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 195.
159702358. Sir Nicholas de Verdun
1Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), XII/2:247, (Verdun).
2Carl Boyer 3d, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans (Santa Clarita, CA 2000), 249.
3Carl Boyer 3d, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, 249.
159702376. Robert de Vipont
1Carl Boyer 3d, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans (Santa Clarita, CA 2000), 257.
159702377. Idonea de Builli
1Carl Boyer 3d, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans (Santa Clarita, CA 2000), 257.