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Ancestors of Roger Tansey

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2555214750. William fitz Richard lord of Cardinand

1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 50-26.


2555216000. Ranulf the Moneyer

1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 264.


2555216968. Noel

1David Bethell, The Ancestors of Richard Brough and Mary Horleston (Richard Brough Family Assoc:1981), page 5, et seq.
copied from website: http://www.broughfamily.org/broughs_1055-1510_ad.htm.
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Robert de Stafford or his immediate successors granted a large area of land from their Staffordshire estates to the Noel family. By the 15th century the acquisition had been romanticized a little, as described in the cartulary of Ranton priory (2):

First of all, a man called Noel, with Celestria his wife, came in the army of William the Bastard (the Conqueror) into England, and had the said manor of Elinhale with its parts by the grant of the said William the Bastard. From the said Noel descended the right and inheritance to a certain Robert Noel his son and heir, who married a certain Alice, and founded the Priory of Ranton while his mother Celestria was still living.

The Augustinian priory of St. Mary des Essarz at Ranton was founded by Robert fitz Noel about 1150, and received several further bequests from the Noel family (v.inf.). Noel, at the head of the line, was not in fact contemporary with William the Conqueror. His wife Celestria is known to have been a daughter of Robert de Limesi, who succeeded Peter as Bishop of Chester c.1088, and died in 1117 (3)

The large central English diocese of Lichfield, including Cheshire, Derbyshire, northern Warwickshire, northern Shropshire, southern Lancashire and Staffordshire, had three seats, at Chester, Lichfield, and Coventry. The see was moved to Chester from Lichfield in 1075 by Bishop Peter. Robert de Limesi his successor removed it to Coventry "in order to possess himself of the riches of the monastery of Coventry, which had been so amply endowed by earl Leofric, that it was looked upon to be the most wealthy in the land", but Robert continued to style himself Bishop of Chester (4).

Robert de Limesi used his position as bishop to expropriate extensive lands in Staffordshire belonging to the diocese for his daughter Celestria and her husband Noel. By this means the Noel family acquired Ellenhall, Seighford, Clanford, Bridgeford, Podmore and Milnmease, as well as Granborough in Warwickshire. Ranton Priory was a little more than a mile north of Brough; Ellenhall lies immediately to the north of Ranton.

Although, prior to the Reformation, English bishops were normally strictly celibate, it was neither illegal nor uncommon for bishops in the 12th century to marry and have children, and it may be assumed that there were other descendants of Robert de Limesi. Philip fitz Bishop, who was at Brough by 1199 (v.inf.), and is thought to have been a cousin of Thomas Noel (son of Robert fitz Noel), was probably a grandson of Robert. Robert is assumed to have been a son or brother of Ralph de Limesi, ancestor of the Barons Odingselles. Ralph was described as a son of the sister (unspecified) of William the Conqueror; he "enjoyed the lands of Christiana, one of the sisters of Edgar Atheling, by marriage (as some affirm, and according to others by gift of the Conqueror), among which was Ulverly in the county of Warwick, which he made his principal seat." (5). This would make Robert de Limesi, Bishop of Chester, a grandson or greatgrandson on the material side of Robert Duke of Normandy. If Ralph de Limesi was husband of Christiana the legitimate title to the English throne would have passed through Ralph’s eldest descendants.

The Brough property was acquired by the Noel family with Ranton in about 1145, when this grant was made by Nicholas de Stafford to Noel (husband of Colestria) (6):

Because in all matters between those greater of birth and those lesser, and between the powerful and the powerless, testimonies to deeds have been found necessary to free them from litigation, therefore let it be known to both the greater and lesser men of the whole of the honour of Stafford and may it shine forth in their memories, that Nicholas de Stafford, when still a young man, granted to Noel by right of inheritance, and similarly afterwards to Robert his son, the land of Ronton and Cokeslone in fee, and by the service of half a manor, and of half a knight, and at the service of lord Nicholas’s own shield, and free from all ward and upkeep of the Castle; Afterwards, morover, lord Robert came by inheritance from his father successor to the honour of Stafford by hereditary right, by the grace of God, and granted this agreement which his father had granted to Noel and to Robert son of Noel, that it should be known to all men, by his grace; and that the said lord Robert after the death of his father has given to Robert son of Noel land which is next to Gnowshale &c. These being witnesses, Nicholas son of Nigel, Ralph son of Brian, &c.

Brough itself is first specified in the confirmation grant by Robert de Stafford to Thomas, Noel’s grandson, about 1182 (7):

Robert de Stadford to Thomas Noel (grant of) the land of Ranton and of Cokeslaine and the land of Burgh which is next to Gnoweshale (Gnosall), by the service of half a manor, that is of half a knight to the service of my own shield; all this for the service of his ancestors and for homage, and money, to wit 30 marks (£20) which Noel grandfather of Thomas gave to lord Nicholas my father, I grant. These being witnesses, Hervey de Stretton, Robert de Brinton, Roger son of Henry, Philip Holegate, Robert son of Pagan, Ivo de Mutton, Adam de Staundon, Adam de Alith(1)egh (Audley).

The Noel pedigrees (8) indicate that Robert fitz Noel was married to Alice daughter of Hugh Montfort, and Thomas Noel his son was married to Margaret Strange. Thomas had a brother Phillip...to whom Thomas his brother granted lands in Cestiford (9), but we know that he was not Philip fitz Bishop, since both on occasion witnessed the same deeds (v.inf.) (10). When Thomas Noel died he left two daughters, of whom one, Alice Har(e)court, inherited the greater part of his estates.


Sources:
*Public Record Office
1. *Exchequer TR Domesday; but on permanent display in the British Museum. The description quoted is on f.248 verso, column 2.
2. Ranton Cartulary printed Staffordshire Historical Collections (SHC): f.12
3. History and Antiquities of Glastonbury ed Thomas Hearne, 1722; apprndix.
4. v. History of Cheshire, George Ormerod, i 93.
5. Baronia Anglica Concentrata Sir Thomas Banks pp.108-9
6. British Museum, Huntbache MS ii f.166
7. id. f.54
8. e.g. Visitation of Staffordshire 1583, e.g. B.M. Harley 1570, 1415, 6128; printed S.H.C. iii. "Ex Chartis Philippi Noel de Hilcott in Com. Staff."
9. History of Pirehill Hundred, Walter Chetwynd: peidgree of Noel; pr.S.H.C.
10. e.g. Ranton Cartulary (2)."

2K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants (Woodbridge: Boydell Press, 2002), 72.


2555216969. Celestria de Limesi

1David Bethell, The Ancestors of Richard Brough and Mary Horleston (Richard Brough Family Assoc:1981).
copied from website: http://www.broughfamily.org/broughs_1055-1510_ad.htm.

2K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants (Woodbridge: Boydell Press, 2002), 72.


2555216970. Hugh de Montfort

1Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
"From: Robert O'Connor ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Theodosia Noel, Lady Wimbledon
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1999/10/04

<snip>

Here is what I have on the Noel family in the male line:

ROBERT NOEL, of Ellenhall, Staffs., He was given land near 'Gnosill' by Robert de Stafford, between 1140 & 1150. In the reign of King Henry II he founded the priory of Ranton, near Ellenhall, Staffs., settling on it land & a mill. M Alice, d. of Hugh de Montfort. He had issue: VCH Staffs III, p 251 & IV 125 WSAS III, p 119

1.Thomas, of Raunton & Ellenhall, Staffs., M Margaret, d. of Guy le Strange. He was Sheriff of Staffs., for 7 years in the reign of King Henry II, & for 1 year upon the accession of King Richard I. He had issue: VCH Staffs III, p 251 Weis, p 60.
1a.Alice, M Sir William Harcourt, Kt., of Stanton Harcourt, Oxon. Gov. of Tamworth Castle, Warw., 1218. She had issue: (See HARCOURT) Weis, p 60
2a.Joan, M William de Dunstan.
2.PHILIP, of whom we presently."


2555228440. Albert II Count of Namur

1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 149-21.

2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 149-21.


2555228441. Regilinde of Lorraine

1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 149-21.


2555228442. Bernard II Billung Duke of Saxony

1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 246A-22.

2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 101-23.


2555228443. Elika von Schweinfurt Duchess of Saxony

1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 243A-22.


2555232768. Robert de Comyn Earl of Northumberland

1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 121A-25.

2Carl Boyer 3d, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans (Santa Clarita, CA 2000), 57 (Comyn).


2555233124. Thierry III Count of Frisia

1Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD 1998, 3d ed.), line 311-34.


2555233125. Othelendis of the Nordmark Countess of Frisia

1Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD 1998, 3d ed.), line 311-34.


2555233128. Otto de Maurienne Count of Maurienne, Marquis of Susa

1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 45-23.


2555233129. Adelaide Countess of Maurienne, Marquesa of Susa

1Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD 1998, 3d ed.), line 381-33.

2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 45-23.

3Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, line 93-32.