311872. Roger de Coton
1George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 3:414.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 69.
311873. Elen Grymelond
1George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 3:414.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 69.
311874. William Hulse
1George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 3:414.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 70.
311880. Sir Randle Mainwaring lord of Over Peover
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 163.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 168.
3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 168.
311881. Lady Margery Venables
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 168, 255.
311882. John Warren
1George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 3:491.
2Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
I haven't checked the following against original sources, so I'm not sure if anything in print is accurate. But here is the descent as it is usually given: 1. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, son of Hameline "Plantagenet." 2. Griffin de Warren, illegitimate son, dead 1286, m. Isabel de Pulford, sister of Robert, rector of Coddington, Cheshire, widow 1286 and 1298. 3. John de Warren, lord of Ightfield jure ux (through marriage), liv. 1289, m. Audelin, daughter and heir of Griffin de Albo Monasterio/Whitchurch [these earliest two generations seem kind of suspicious]. 4. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Wynifred, d. & coh. of William Broxlon of Chester. 5. John de Warren of Ightfield, liv. 1314, 1335, m. Ellen, d. of John Chorleton. 6. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, d. 1356, m. Maud/Matilda, d. of Fulke, Lord Strange of Blackmere, afterwards married Sir Piers (or Peter) de Cornwall, lord of Kinlet, Shropshire. 7. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Margaret Corbet, daughter of Sir Piers de Corbet. 8. John Warren of Ightfield, d. ca. 1413, m. Matilda/ Margaret/ Emma, daughter of Sir John Cheney of Willaston. 9. Margaret Warren, sister and coheir, m. William Mainwaring, d. 1498/9, had Ightfield, Shropshire, and Stratton, in Tilston, Cheshire, with lands in Broxton. But I don't have Morris's notes to the pedigree so I don't know what further evidence he uses to estrablish the line. pcr."
"Date: 24 Jul 1998 03:57:03 GMT
From: Reedpcgen<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected] >
To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Warren of Ightfield3George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, 3:491.
311883. Emma Matilda Cheney
1George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 3:491.
2Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
I haven't checked the following against original sources, so I'm not sure if anything in print is accurate. But here is the descent as it is usually given: 1. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, son of Hameline "Plantagenet." 2. Griffin de Warren, illegitimate son, dead 1286, m. Isabel de Pulford, sister of Robert, rector of Coddington, Cheshire, widow 1286 and 1298. 3. John de Warren, lord of Ightfield jure ux (through marriage), liv. 1289, m. Audelin, daughter and heir of Griffin de Albo Monasterio/Whitchurch [these earliest two generations seem kind of suspicious]. 4. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Wynifred, d. & coh. of William Broxlon of Chester. 5. John de Warren of Ightfield, liv. 1314, 1335, m. Ellen, d. of John Chorleton. 6. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, d. 1356, m. Maud/Matilda, d. of Fulke, Lord Strange of Blackmere, afterwards married Sir Piers (or Peter) de Cornwall, lord of Kinlet, Shropshire. 7. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Margaret Corbet, daughter of Sir Piers de Corbet. 8. John Warren of Ightfield, d. ca. 1413, m. Matilda/ Margaret/ Emma, daughter of Sir John Cheney of Willaston. 9. Margaret Warren, sister and coheir, m. William Mainwaring, d. 1498/9, had Ightfield, Shropshire, and Stratton, in Tilston, Cheshire, with lands in Broxton. But I don't have Morris's notes to the pedigree so I don't know what further evidence he uses to estrablish the line. pcr."
"Date: 24 Jul 1998 03:57:03 GMT
From: Reedpcgen<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected] >
To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Warren of Ightfield
311884. John de Sutton V Lord of Dudley
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 122.
2David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, 123.
3David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, 123.
311885. Lady Constance le Blount
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 123.
311886. Sir John de Berkeley
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), page 78, line 81-36.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), page 100, line 80A-7.
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 100, line 80A-7.
311887. Lady Elizabeth Betteshorne
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), page 78, line 81-36.
311908. William Lacon
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 150.
311909. Magdalene Wisham
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 150.
311910. Thomas Horde
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 150.
311912. Sir Roger Corbet
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 56B-38.
311913. Lady Elizabeth Hopton
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 56B-38.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 146.
311914. Sir Walter Devereux Lord Ferrers
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 139.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 56B-37.
3David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, 139.
4David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, 138-39.
311915. Lady Anne de Ferrers
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 56B-37.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 56B-37.
311916. Sir William de Vernon
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 350.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 56A-37.
3Merrow Sorley, William de Lichfield, The Genealogists' Magazine (Society of Genealogists, London, Sept. 1965), Vol. 15, No. 3, page 120.
311917. Lady Margaret Swynfen
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 350.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 56A-37.
311918. Sir John Talbot K.B., K.G., 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Earl of Waterford
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 56A-38.
2Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), V:704 (Shrewsbury).
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 24-10.
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, line 24-10.
5Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 248.
6Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 32, line 24-10.
311919. Lady Elizabeth Butler Countess of Shrewsbury
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 56A-38.
2Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), V:705 (Shrewsbury).
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), page 32, line 24-10.
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 32, line 24-10.
311920. William Mainwaring
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 46.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 169.
3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 46.
311921. Ellen Boteler
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 46.
311922. Robert de Legh Esquire
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 258.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 155.
3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 155.
311923. Isabel Stanley
1George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 2:416.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 155.
311924. Sir John de Honford
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), Trafford 7.
2George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 3:644.
3George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, 3:638.
4Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 142.
311925. Lady Margery Warren
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), Trafford 7.
2George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 3:644.
311926. Sir John Savage
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 258.
2David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, 323.
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), Line 233-37.
4George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 1:713.
5David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, 323.
311927. Lady Catherine de Stanley
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 258.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 231.
In Macclesfield Church, there is a fine altar tomb for Margaret and her husband, Sir John.
311928. Randle de Brereton
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 37.
2George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 2:686.
311929. Catherine Bulkeley
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 37.
2George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 2:686.
311930. Sir John de Caryngton lord of Caryngton
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 38.
2George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 2:272, 686.
3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 54.
311931. Lady Isabel de Beeston
1George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (George Routledge & Sons, 1882), 2:272.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 54.
3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 54.