2495090. Eudo la Zouche
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), page 43, line 39-29.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 74-4.
3Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), XII/2:938 (Zouche).
2495091. Milicent de Cantelou
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), page 180.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 39-29.
2495264. Alan Lacon
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 148.
2495265. Agnes Pembrugge
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 148.
2495266. Raphe Paslowe
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 192.
2495267. Amicia Kynaston
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 192.
She is often given as a daughter of Sir Roger Kynaston, a descendant of King Henry IV, which is chronologically not possible.
2495268. Sir Adam Peshall
1Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
A little history: The elder Sir Adam was called "a common malefactor, nortoriously accused of various homicides and other felonies .... After being followed from place to place he was at length taken at Caynton in Shropshire and beheaded...." in 1346. The brothers themselves were embroilled in quite a feud (Hamo de Peshall having married Alesia de Harley, only 'legitimate' daughter of Robert and Joan [Corbet] de Harley). Perhaps Kay could relate a few of those details, since she has a copy of The Genealogist. pcr."
"Date: 21 Aug 1998 21:24:13 GMT From: Reedpcgen<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected] > To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Grosvenor / Pershale Connection and Line?2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 198.
2495270. Sir Robert de Harley
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 29A-32.
2Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
"Date: 19 Feb 1998 00:52:25 GMT From: Reedpcgen<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected] > To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: More Corbet > >Hamon Peshall, younger brother of Sir Adam Peshall of Horsley married = > >Alicia Harley who was the daughter of Robert Harley by Joan daughter of= > >Robert Corbet (and his wife Elizabeth le Strange) There is an article in The Genealogist 10:1 which covers the Peshall/Harley connection in great detail and also explains how the Corbets of Moreton Corbet came to get part of the Barony of Caus, covering temp. 1270-1400. See specifically p. 37. When I wrote that article, I had taken the word of certain other authorities that the Mallory connection was correct rather than checking it myself (though it was an incidental point to what I was writing about). I will not do that again. pcr."
2495271. Lady Joanna Corbet
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 29A-32.
2Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), III:160 (Cherleton).
2495296. Sir Robert Corbet
1Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), III:160 (Cherleton).
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 29A-31.
3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 66.
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 29A-31.
5Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 66.
6Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Vol. 35, pages 29-31.
2495297. Lady Elizabeth le Strange
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), Line 29B-31.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Line 29A-31.
2495298. Sir Giles de Erdington Lord Shawbury
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), Vol. 35, pages 29-32.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 253.
2495299. Lady Elizabeth de Tolthorpe
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 253.
2495304. Sir Walter Hopton
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 145.
2495305. Lady Joane Yong
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 145.
2495306. Sir Walter Mortimer
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 178.
2495308. Sir Reginald Lucy
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 161.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 161.
2495309. Lady Margaret de Mowbray
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 161.
2Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
Thank you for your latest post regarding the Mowbray family. Having
"From: Douglas Richardson
Subject: Corrected Mowbray Royal Ancestry for Robert Abell, Richard More & John Oxenbridge
Date: 2001-10-08 21:53:17 PST
Dear Chris ~
carefully reviewed the citations you provide below, it is clear that
John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray's first children by his wife,
Elizabeth de Segrave, were a daughter, Eleanor, born in 1364, and a
son, John, born in 1365. This is spite of the fact that John and
Elizabeth were married in 1349 and probably consumated their marriage
by 1353. As for Margaret Mowbray, wife of Sir Reginald Lucy, she had to be
least age 7 for her to consent to her marriage in 1369. This means
that Margaret Mowbray was born in or before 1362. If correct, then it
is chronologically impossible for her to have been the daughter of
John de Mowbray by Elizabeth de Segrave. Rather, it would appear that Margaret Mowbray belongs in the previous
generation of the Mowbray family, as daughter of John de Mowbray, 3rd
Lord Mowbray (born 1310, died 1361), by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth de
Vere, daughter of John de Vere, 7th Earl of Oxford. We know for
certain that John de Mowbray, 3rd Lord Mowbray, had issue by Elizabeth
de Vere as she was pregnant with his child when they received a papal
dispensation to remain in marriage in 1351. Elizabeth de Vere was
evidently much younger than John de Mowbray, 3rd Lord Mowbray, as I
show her previous husband, Hugh de Courtenay, was born in 1327, and
died before 2 September 1349. Pushing Margaret Mowbray one generation back in the Mowbray family
deprives her of descents from Kings Edward I and Henry III. However,
she still has several interesting royal descents, among them the
following descent below: 1. Henry II, King of England, by a mistress, Ida. 2. William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury, married Ela of Salisbury. 3. Ida Longespee, married William de Beauchamp, Baron of Bedford, co.
Bedford. 4. Maud de Beauchamp, married Roger de Mowbray, Baron of Thirsk, co.
York, born about 1220, died 1263. 5. Roger de Mowbray, Baron of Thirsk, co. York, born 1257, died 1297,
married Rose de Clare. 6. John de Mowbray, Baron of Axholme, co. Lincoln, Thirsk, co. York,
born 1286, died 1322, married Aline de Breuse. 7. John de Mowbray, Knt., Baron of Axholme, co. Lincoln, lord of Gower
in Wales, born 1310, died 1361, married c. 1351 Elizabeth de Vere. 8. Margaret Mowbray, married 1369, Reginald Lucy, Knt., died 1437. As for other new information, I've learned that Reginald and Margaret
(Mowbray) Lucy had a daughter (name not known) who married John
Constantine. The daughter had a son William Constantine who was
involved in a Chancery suit regarding his uncle, Walter Lucy's estate.
The citation for the suit is C1/17/403. Presumably there are living
descendants of the Lucy-Constantine marriage. Again many thanks Chris for clarifying the chronology of the Mowbray
family for us. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah."
2495310. Sir Warine l'Archedekne
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 245.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 4, 245.
2495311. Lady Elizabeth Talbot
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 245.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 245.
2495312. Sir Walter Devereux
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 87.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 87.
2495313. Lady Agnes de Crophull
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 73.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 73, 87.
2495314. Thomas Bromwich
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 40.
2495315. Alice Oldcastle
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 40.
2495318. Sir John de Pembridge
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 173.
2495320. Sir Robert de Ferrers
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 61-34.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 61-34.
2495321. Lady Margaret le Despencer
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 70-36.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 61-34.
2495322. Thomas de la Roche
1Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), XI:44.
2495323. Elizabeth Birmingham
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 138.
2495324. Sir Thomas Bealknap
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 22.
2495325. Lady Juliana Darset
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 22.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 22.