9981312. Sir Richard de Vernon
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 63A-33.
9981313. Lady Maud de Camville
1Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), III:4 (Canville).
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 63A-33.
9981316. Sir Fulke de Pembrugge
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 111.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 56A-32.
3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 194.
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 56A-32.
9981317. Lady Mathilda de Bermingham
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 194.
9981320. Hywel
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 259.
9981322. Gwrwared
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 259.
9981344. Philip de Aust, Lord Swynfen
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 238.
9981352. Thomas de Pype Lord Draycote
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 199.
9981353. Lady Johanna de Jarpenville
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 199.
9981354. Sir William de Stafford
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 199.
9981355. Lady Isabelle de Stafford
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 199.
9981356. Walter de Ridware
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 208.
9981357. Ellen fitz Herbert
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 208.
9981360. Philip Durvassal
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 220.
9981361. Felicia Camville
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 220.
9981376. Sir Gilbert Talbot 1st Lord Talbot
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 84A-30.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 84A-30.
9981377. Lady Ann Boteler
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 242.
9981378. John Comyn the "Red" Lord of Badenoch
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 95-30.
9981379. Joan de Valence
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 148-4.
9981380. Sir Edmund Butler Earl of Carrick
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 60.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 48.
Edmund sat in the Irish Parliament in 1302. He was knighted in London by King Edward II in London in 1309. From 1312 to 1313 and from 1314/15 to 1317, he was Justiciar and Chief Governor of Ireland and was active in suppressing rebellion there. At a feast in Dublin on 20 Sept 1313, he created 30 knights. For his service against Edward Bruce and the Scots, as well as against the rebel Irish, he was Earl of Carrick. He died while returning from a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostella in Spain.3Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 24-6.
4Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 48.
5Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 48.
9981381. Lady Joan fitz John Countess of Carrick
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 60.
9981382. Humphrey VIII de Bohun 4th Earl of Hereford & Essex
1David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 258.
2David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, 60.
3Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), V:135 (Essex).
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), page 25, line 18-5.
5Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 25, line 18-5.
9981383. Elizabeth Princess of England
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), Line 15-29.
2David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists (English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, 2nd Ed., New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 258.
3David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, 60.
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), page 25, line 18-5.
5Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 201.
6Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 25, line 18-5.
7Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, page 25, line 18-5.
9981387. Lady Ela de Herdeburgh
1Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
<snip> Denise's correct parentage is William le Boteler (died 1334), of Wem, co. Salop, lst Lord le Botiller, by his second wife, Ela, daughter and co-heiress of Roger de Herdeburgh. This couple may be found in Complete Peerage, 2 (1912): 232. <snip> Best always, Douglas Richardson E-mail: [email protected]."
"Subject: Re: Bishop of Worcester's Kinswoman, Denise le Boteler
Date: 06/01/2000
Author: Douglas Richardson <[email protected]>2Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
In 1275, Edward le Boteler, rector of Weston-Turville, co. Buckingham, died without issue, leaving as his co-heirs his four sisters or their descendants. Two of the sisters were Ankaret, wife of John le Strange and Thomas de Ferrers (ancestress of the le Strange family of Blackmere) and Alice, wife of Nicholas Longford (ancestress of the
"From: Douglas Richardson
Subject: New Descent from King Henry II through Herdeburgh, Boteler, le Strange, & Longford families
Date: 2001-09-25 10:53:00 PST
Dear Newsgroup ~
Longford, Montgomery, Clarell, Fitzwilliam, and many other families). The two sisters have many descendants, including many people who post here on the the newsgroup. Edward Boteler and his four sisters were the children of William le Boteler, of Wem and Oversley, Shropshire, by his 2nd wife, Ela de Herdeburgh. Previously the Herdeburgh family was not thought to possess any royal ancestry, however, it appears that Ela de Herdeburgh does in fact descend from King Henry II through the Longespee family. Proof of the connection to the Longespee family is found in a papal petition dated 1352, whereby William de Clinton, Earl of Huntingdon, requested that his nephew, Edward le Boteler, be made canon and prebend of Lincoln. On the surface, it is difficult to explain how Edward le Boteler could be nephew to William de Clinton (a Longespee descendant). However, reviewing the Clinton and Boteler-Herdeburgh family trees, the only possible way for Edward le Boteler to be the Earl's nephew would be if Edward le Boteler's mother, Ela de Herdeburgh, was older half sister of Earl William de Clinton. As for Ela de Herdeburgh, mother of Edward le Boteler, she can be readily identified as the daughter and co-heiress of Roger de Herdeburgh, son and heir apparent of Hugh de Herdeburgh, of Great Harborough, co. Warwick and Weston Turville, co. Buckingham. Ela's father, Roger de Herdeburgh, evidently died about 1184, as a young man. Previously, the name of Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was not known. However, it would appear that she was Ida de Odingsells, eldest daughter of William de Odingsells, of Maxstoke, co. Warwick. Ida subsequently married about 1290 to John de Clinton, 1st Lord Clinton, of Maxstoke. By her Clinton marriage, Ida was mother of two known sons, John de Clinton [2nd Lord Clinton] and William de Clinton [Earl of Huntingdon]. For further evidence of the Herdeburgh-Clinton-Odingsells connection, it may be noted that the names Ela and Ida ran in families descended from the Longespee family. Ela de Hereburgh herself bore the name, Ela, and she bestowed the name Ida on her second daughter. - - - - - - - The following immigrants (and probably many others) descend from Ela de Herdeburgh: 1. Robert Abell (twice).
2. Grace Chetwode.
3. Anne & Katherine Marbury.
4. Richard More, of Mayflower.
5. John Oxenbridge.
6. Grey & Diana Skipwith. - - - - - - - - The new descent from King Henry II is presented below:
l. Henry II, King of England, by a mistress, Ida.
2. William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury, married Ela Fitz Patrick.
3. Ida Longespee, married Walter Fitz Robert, Baron of Little Dunmow, Essex.
4. Ela Fitz Walter, married William de Odingsells.
5. Ida de Odingsells, married (1st) Roger de Herdeburgh; (2nd) John de Clinton.
6. Ela de Herdeburgh, married (1st) Walter de Hopton, Knt.; (2nd) William le Boteler, of Wem and Oversley, Shropshire.
For further details of this descent, see the forthcoming 3rd edition of Plantagenet Ancestry.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah."3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 34.
9981388. Sir Edmund fitz Alan Earl of Arundel
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), page 172, line 134-6.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 172, line 134-6.
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 158, line 121-5.
4Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, page 172, line 134-6.
9981389. Lady Alice de Warenne Countess of Arundel
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), page 158, line 121-5.
9981390. Sir Hugh le Despencer Lord le Despenser
1Encyclopaedia Brittanica, http://www.brittanica.com.
in full, RESPECTIVELY, HUGH LE DESPENSER, EARL OF WINCHESTER, and Sir Hugh Le Despenser, bynames Hugh Le Despenser The Elder and Hugh Le Despenser The Younger (respectively b. 1262--d. Oct. 27, 1326, Bristol, Gloucestershire, Eng.; d. Nov. 24, 1326, Hereford, Herefordshire, Eng.), unpopular favourites of England's King Edward II, who were executed by Edward's opponents, Queen Isabella and Roger Mortimer. Hugh the Elder was summoned to Parliament as a baron in 1295. He fought in France and Scotland for Edward I and was sent by him on several embassies, including two to the pope. He was one of the few supporters, in 1308, of Piers Gaveston, Edward II's favourite; after Gaveston's death in 1312 he became the king's chief adviser until Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, leader of the baronial opposition, procured his dismissal from court and council in February 1315. He then worked to further the interests of his son, Hugh the Younger, who had been in the king's household when he was prince of Wales. The younger Hugh was appointed the king's chamberlain in 1318, but both father and son were attacked in Parliament by the magnates in 1321; the intense hatred with which the barons regarded the Despensers was due to the enormous wealth that had passed into their hands and to the arrogance and rapacity of the younger Hugh. At last the king was forced to agree to their disinheritance and exile. The elder Hugh went abroad but the younger remained in the Cinque Ports and engaged in piracy. After the collapse of the opposition at the Battle of Boroughbridge (March 1322), the Despensers returned to power, and the elder Hugh was created earl of Winchester. Hugh the Younger worked to enhance the importance of the chamberlain's office: he diverted to it from the Exchequer the revenue from certain lands, developed it as a department equipped with its own seal and provided private income for the king. But his administration aroused discontent. He had married (1306) Eleanor, coheiress of Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester (d. 1314). Hugh's attempt to acquire the sole inheritance had been foiled by a division of Clare's estates in 1317; but even so he received lands in Glamorgan and Wales. At the rebellion of Queen Isabella and Roger Mortimer (1326), both Despensers fled westward with the king. The elder, sent to defend Bristol, surrendered it to Isabella on October 26 and, after summary trial, was hanged the next day. The younger Despenser was captured with the king and tried and hanged a month later."
"Despenser, Hugh Le; and Despenser, Hugh Le2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 74-32.
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 74-32.
9981391. Lady Alianore de Clare
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), 74-32.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 74-32.
9981392. Ranulph de Neville 1st Lord Neville of Raby
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 186.
He was in 1313 convicted of incest with his daughter, Anastase.2Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 44-4.
3Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, line 44-4.
9981393. Lady Euphemia fitz Roger de Clavering
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 44-4.