39925180. Philip Marmion
1Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), VIII:510-512.
39925181. Mistress
1Cokayne, Complete Peerage (Sutton Publishing, 2000 ed.), VIII:510-512.
39925182. Giles fitz Nicholas
1Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
I don't have the VCH Warks to hand but the following 6 generation ancester list includes the generations you seek and the reference(s) for each entry. 1 Amice MARMION.
"Subject: Re: Ancestry of Ellen de la Roche?
Date: 10/21/2000
Author: Richard Borthwick <[email protected]>
[VCH Warks 4:253]
She married John de WHITACRE. 2 Sir Robert MARMION. Died After 1316.
[VCH Warks 4:253; CP VIII:514] 3 Isabel. Died Before 1292.
CP says that Isabel was the daughter of Giles son of Ralph but VCH says her father (to whom she was heir) was Giles son of Nicholas.
[VCH Warks 4:253; CP VIII:514] 4 Philip MARMION, of Tamworth. Died Before 5 Dec 1291.
[CP VIII:510-512; VCH Warks 4:253]
He did not marry NN. 5 NN. 6 Giles FITZ NICHOLAS.
[VCH Warks 4:253] 7 Margery de APPLEBY.
[VCH Warks 4:253] 8 Robert (IV) MARMION, of Tamworth. Died About 1241/1243.
[CP VIII:510] 9 Juliane de VASSY.
[CP VIII:510] 12 Nicholas FITZ RALPH, of Nether Whitacre. Died Before 1262.
[VCH Warks 4:253] 14 Geoffrey de APPLEBY.
[VCH Warks 4:253] 16 Robert (III) MARMION, of Tamworth. Died Before 15 May 1218. [CP VIII:509-510]
17 Maud # de BEAUCHAMP.
Maud's affiliation to William (I) de Beauchamp is a speculation based on the discussion in the CP note.
[CP VIII:509 & note (j)] 18 Philip de VASSY.
[CP VIII:510] 24 Ralph FITZ RALPH, of Nether Whitacre. Died After 1235/1236. [VCH Warks 4:252] 32 Robert (II) MARMION, of Tamworth. Died About Oct 1181.
[CP VIII:508-509; ES III/4:625; R A Griffiths *Conquerors and Conquered in Medieval Wales* (Alan Sutton Publishing: Stroud, 1994) 199] 33 Elizabeth.
It was not Elizabeth but her mother-in-law, Milisent, who was daughter of Gervase count of Rethel. CP XIV:467 & 468 makes these corrections to CP VIII and ES.
[CP VIII:509, XIV:468; ES III/4:625] 34 William (I) de BEAUCHAMP, of Elmley & Salwarpe. Died 1170. [I J Sanders *English Baronies: A Study of their Origin and Descent* (Clarendon Press: Oxford, 1963 [1960]) 76] 48 Ralph FITZ WILLIAM, of Nether Whitacre, Warks.
[VCH Warks 4:252]."
39925183. Margery de Appleby
1Medieval Genealogy Newsgroup.
I don't have the VCH Warks to hand but the following 6 generation ancester list includes the generations you seek and the reference(s) for each entry. 1 Amice MARMION.
"Subject: Re: Ancestry of Ellen de la Roche?
Date: 10/21/2000
Author: Richard Borthwick <[email protected]>
[VCH Warks 4:253]
She married John de WHITACRE. 2 Sir Robert MARMION. Died After 1316.
[VCH Warks 4:253; CP VIII:514] 3 Isabel. Died Before 1292.
CP says that Isabel was the daughter of Giles son of Ralph but VCH says her father (to whom she was heir) was Giles son of Nicholas.
[VCH Warks 4:253; CP VIII:514] 4 Philip MARMION, of Tamworth. Died Before 5 Dec 1291.
[CP VIII:510-512; VCH Warks 4:253]
He did not marry NN. 5 NN. 6 Giles FITZ NICHOLAS.
[VCH Warks 4:253] 7 Margery de APPLEBY.
[VCH Warks 4:253] 8 Robert (IV) MARMION, of Tamworth. Died About 1241/1243.
[CP VIII:510] 9 Juliane de VASSY.
[CP VIII:510] 12 Nicholas FITZ RALPH, of Nether Whitacre. Died Before 1262.
[VCH Warks 4:253] 14 Geoffrey de APPLEBY.
[VCH Warks 4:253] 16 Robert (III) MARMION, of Tamworth. Died Before 15 May 1218. [CP VIII:509-510]
17 Maud # de BEAUCHAMP.
Maud's affiliation to William (I) de Beauchamp is a speculation based on the discussion in the CP note.
[CP VIII:509 & note (j)] 18 Philip de VASSY.
[CP VIII:510] 24 Ralph FITZ RALPH, of Nether Whitacre. Died After 1235/1236. [VCH Warks 4:252] 32 Robert (II) MARMION, of Tamworth. Died About Oct 1181.
[CP VIII:508-509; ES III/4:625; R A Griffiths *Conquerors and Conquered in Medieval Wales* (Alan Sutton Publishing: Stroud, 1994) 199] 33 Elizabeth.
It was not Elizabeth but her mother-in-law, Milisent, who was daughter of Gervase count of Rethel. CP XIV:467 & 468 makes these corrections to CP VIII and ES.
[CP VIII:509, XIV:468; ES III/4:625] 34 William (I) de BEAUCHAMP, of Elmley & Salwarpe. Died 1170. [I J Sanders *English Baronies: A Study of their Origin and Descent* (Clarendon Press: Oxford, 1963 [1960]) 76] 48 Ralph FITZ WILLIAM, of Nether Whitacre, Warks.
[VCH Warks 4:252]."
39925216. Ralph le Boteler
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 33.
39925217. Maud Pantulph
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 33.
39925224. John de Sudeley Lord Sudeley
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 233.
39925226. Sir John de Montfort Lord Montfort of Beaudesert
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 176.
39925227. Lady Alice de la Plaunche
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 176.
39925228. Sir Robert IV de Scales 1st Lord Scales
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 215.
39925229. Lady Isabel de Burnel
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 215.
39925230. Sir Hugh de Courtenay
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 216.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 50-30.
39925231. Lady Eleanor le Despencer
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 216.
39925248. Richard le Franceys alias Vernon
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 257.
He took his mother's surname and gained seisin of Pitchcott Manor before 1302.
39925249. Isabel de Hartcla
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 257.
39925250. William de Vescy
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 264.
2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 264.
3Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, 265.
39925252. Geoffrey de Camville 1st Lord Camville
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 63A-31.
2Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, line 63A-31.
39925253. Lady Maud de Brian
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 7th Ed, 1999), line 63A-31.
39925264. Sir Henry de Pembrugge
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 111-4.
says 1272.2Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 194.
39925265. Lady Arabella de Harcourt
1Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (Genealogical Publishing Co. 5th ed. 1999), line 111-4.
39925280. Ednyfed Fychan
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 259.
39925416. Sir William de Stafford
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 199.
39925417. Lady Alditha de Vernon
1Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Carl Boyer, 3rd, P.O. Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333), 199.
39925418. Robert de Ferrières
1Carl Boyer 3d, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans (Santa Clarita, CA 2000), 83.