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Family Group 4

 

Probable Descendants of Thomas Osborne and Mary Goatley of Ashford, Co. Kent, England

 

 

Caution, Warning, Disclaimer:  The ancestral lines shown below are the ancestors that each project member, highlighted in yellow, BELIEVES to be their ancestors.  Standards of proof or evidence used by each member may vary, and documentation for each ancestor may vary.  These listings alone should not be taken as proof of ancestry; they are shown here to facilitate the finding of a common ancestor by project members or by others who may wish to test to see if their ancestral lines connect to one of the members.  For more information, please contact the individual members at the email addresses listed below.

 

This family group now has thirty-four people and is by far the largest Family Group in the project.  With the new members in this group, their results, and the additional connections to Thomas m Mary Goatley, there is more evidence that everyone in this group is related in some way to this immigrant Thomas Osborne.  So the name of this group has been changed, as above, as had been contemplated earlier.

 

Three groups now know how they are related between themselves:  A group of nine, with Gerald, Nancy, Wayne, Bartley, Mark, Daniel and Darlene, Ralph Waite and Dick Osborn, Jones and Heather, and Kathleen and Douglas now know their ancestors all the way back to John Osborn of Ashford, Kent, England, ancestor of the immigrant Thomas Osborne m Mary Goatley.  Joseph M Osborn and Gerald E Osborne know how they are related; and John P and Denver J Osborne know how they are related.  The remaining people still do not know how they connect to anyone else, but with the dna results consistently indicating that they are descendants of this Thomas, there can be only a few missing generations to find. 

 

Several people in this FG have had the 25- and 37-marker tests; see the Alleles table.  This has provided enough information to establish a most likely Ancestral Haplotype by taking the majority value for each allele, and I have added a line for that in the Alleles table. As shown in the Alleles tabel, the value on Allele 391 divides the members of this Family Group into two subgroups.  With the latest members, the vote for the value on Allele 391 is now eighteen having a value of 12 and sixteen having a value of 11 for the most likely value of that Allele in the ancestral haplotype.   This now makes Mark Osborne and David Robert Osborn the sole bearers of the 37-marker Ancestral Haplotype, and everyone else has at least one mutation from it.  However, the value of Allele 391 in the ancestral haplotype has alternated from 11 to 12 as new members have joined this group, and Joe Osborn has correctly pointed out that a simple majority vote could be wrong if one group has more closely related people in it.  We cannot know that because so many people don’t know how they are related.  But it likely means that this mutation happened very early in the line and has divided the descendants into two major branches.

 

We now have four of the sons of Thomas Osborne and Mary Goatly (generation 7) represented in the project by the “group of nine”.  Of those, all the descendants of sons Thomas, Jeremiah, and John have an 11 as the value of Allele 391, and only those who are descendants of Stephen have a value of 12 for Allele 391.  I have illustrated that by highlighting the descendants of Stephen in blue instead of yellow.  Based on this view, it would appear that the ancestral haplotype has an 11 on Allele 391 because that is present in three of the four sons of Thomas, and that the mutation happened somewhere early in Stephens line. 

 

Whichever way we take it, establishing an ancestral haplotype allows each person to compare their results to the Ancestral Haplotype to get a better understanding of the mutations in their own line. 

 

The hypothetical scenario that was previously worked out to explain the dna test results is still shown to illustrate the approach, but needs to be reworked in light of more recent members and their tests.

 

 

Ancestral Lines

 

Below are the individual ancestral lines as far back as they are known.  Hyperlinks are to that persons listing in the Linked Family Records at Osborne Origins. 

 

 

Descendants of John Osborne

 

There is now a large group who can trace their lines back to Thomas and earlier.  Previously, Nancy and Wayne had their lines back to Jeremiah m Mary Newman, but could go no further.  Recent research by Joe and Lee has convinced them that the father of this Jeremiah is likely to be another Jeremiah which is was previously listed as two separate people.  At the suggestion of Lee, I have listed both of these Jeremiah’s as the father of Jeremiah m Mary Newman.  See Note 3 below for more on this situation.  This allows the connection of Nancy and Gerald’s lines to those four going back to Thomas m Mary Goatley and now connects the people shown below.  See the Notes for caveats.  Note also that with the addition of Heather’s line, all three sons of Jeremiah Osborne-12665, Jeremiah, John, and George, are represented in this ancestral tree. 

 

 1   John Osborne b: Abt. 1468 in of Ashford, Kent, England 

...  +Unknown  m: Abt. 1488 in of Ashford, Kent, England

. 2   Richard Osborne b: Abt. 1488 in Ashford, Kent, England 

.......  +Elizabeth Flydane b: Abt. 1491 in Ashford, Kent, England m: Abt. 1510 in of Ashford, Kent, England

..... 3   Richard Osborne b: Abt. 1513 in of Ashford, Kent, England  d: Aug 11, 1581 in Ashford, Kent, England

...........  +Jane Broughton b: Abt. 1517 in of Broughton, Westmoreland, England m: Abt. 1535 in Ashford, Kent, England d: Abt. 1570 in Ashford, Kent, England

See Note 1

........ 4   Thomas Osborne-12724 b: Abt. 1540 in of Ashford, Kent, England  d: Oct 12, 1611 in Ashford, Kent, England

..............  +Wilmeth b: Abt. 1538 in of Ashford, Kent, England m: Abt. 1560 in Ashford, Kent, England d: Feb 8, 1600 in Ashford, Kent, England

............ 5   Jeremy Osborne b: Feb 4, 1570 in Ashford, Kent, England  d: Feb 8, 1620 in Ashford, Kent, England

..................  +Joan Wyborne b: Abt. 1563 in of Halestead, Kent, England m: Jan 17, 1592 in Ashford, Kent, England d: in , , England

................ 6   Thomas Osborne b: Abt. 1594 in Ashford, Kent, England  d: Nov 26, 1677 in East Hampton, Long Island, NY

......................  +Mary Goatley b: Abt. 1600 in of Ashford, Kent, England m: Jan 18, 1622 in Ashford, Kent, England

................... 7   Thomas Osborne b: Nov 6, 1622 in Ashford, Kent, England  d: Sep 23, 1713 in East Hampton, Long Island, NY

...................  *2nd Wife of Thomas Osborne:  

.........................  +Mary Bond b: Abt. 1624 in Ashford, Kent, England m: Abt. 1647 in of Ashford, Kent, England d: in East Hampton, L.I., NY

....................... 8   Joseph Osborn b: Abt. 1660 in East Hampton, Suffolk, NY  d: Oct 2, 1743

.............................  +Mary Hedges b: Abt. 1671 in Probably E.H., Suffolk, NY m: Dec 26, 1704 in E.H., Suffolk, NY d: Aug 2, 1752 in E.H, Suffolk, NY

.......................... 9   Thomas Osborn b: Sep 13, 1713 in East Hampton, Suffolk, NY  d: Dec 27, 1753

................................  +Jane Conklin b: Sep 20, 1720 in East Hampton, Suffolk, NY m: 1739 d: Mar 8, 1758

.............................. 10   Cornelius Osborn b: Jan 15, 1754 in East Hampton, Suffolk, NY  d: Sep 24, 1810

....................................  +Hannah Hedges   d: May 20, 1816 in East Hampton, NY

.................................. 11   Stephen Osborn b: Nov 12, 1786 in East Hampton, Suffolk, NY  d: Bef. 1835

........................................  +Martha Barton b: Jul 9, 1785 in Warren, Bristol, RI m: Sep 12, 1812 in Lansingburgh, Rensselaer, NY

..................................... 12   Cornelius Osborn b: Abt. 1814 in Lansingburg, Rensselaer, NY  d: 1879 in NV

.....................................  *2nd Wife of Cornelius Osborn:  

...........................................  +Matilda Aldridge b: Abt. 1823 in NY 

......................................... 13   Charles Barton Osborn b: Jan 1, 1847 in Tekonsha Twp., Calhoun, MI  d: Jan 10, 1915 in So. Mason Valley, Lyon, NV

...............................................  +Emily Barton b: May 11, 1848 in Apr 7, 1934 m: Oct 17, 1878 in Gold Hill, Storey, NV

............................................ 14   Sidney Phelps Osborne b: Sep 9, 1877 in Burlington, Calhoun, MI  d: Oct 31, 1948 in Fallon, Churchhill, NV

..................................................  +Grace Watson b: Jul 28, 1894 in Guelph, Ontario, Canada m: Mar 28, 1912 in So. Mason Valley, Lyon, NV d: Jun 7, 1970

................................................ 15   Earl Osborne 

......................................................  +Sibyl

.................................................... 16   Darlene  Osborne  

..........................................................  +Roy  Leggitt

.................................................... 16   Daniel Earl Osborne   

.................... 7   Jeremiah Osborne b: Mar 20, 1624 in Ashford, Kent, England  d: Apr 26, 1676 in New Haven, New Haven, CT

..........................  +Mary Davis b: Abt. 1628 in Ashford, Kent, England m: Abt. 1649 in of Ashford, Kent, England

........................ 8   Joseph Osborne b: Dec 15, 1667 in New Haven, New Haven Co. CT  d: Nov 19, 1735 in New Haven, New Haven Co. CT

..............................  +Mary Bennett   d: 1737 New Haven, CT m: Jun 18, 1691 in New Haven CT

............................ 9   Joseph Osborne b: Feb 18, 1693 in New Haven, New Haven Co. CT  d: Dec 1724 in New Haven, New Haven Co. CT

..................................  +Experience Tolles  b: 1695 in New Haven, CT m:1713 in New Haven, CT

............................... 10   Daniel Osborne b: Oct 18, 1715 in New Haven, New Haven Co. CT  d: 1791 in Waterbury, New Haven Co., CT

......................................  +Obedience Smith b: Nov 1, 1719 in New Haven, CT m: Jan 12, 1736 in New Haven, CT d: Apr 18, 1760 in Waterbury, New Haven Co., CT

................................... 11   Ebenezer Osborne b: Sep 26, 1742 in New Haven, New Haven Co. CT  d: Jan 8, 1801

.........................................  +Mamre Ward  b: Jun 4, 1744 m: Apr 12, 1769 Oxford, CT d: May 5, 1822

....................................... 12   Seba Osborne b: Abt. 1784 in CT  d: May 9, 1870 in Bur: Cornwallville Cm, Greene Co., NY

.............................................  +Mehitable Goodyear b: Sep 22, 1784 in New Haven, CT m: Oct 1809 in Hamden, CT d: Jan 15, 1858 in Bur: Greene Co., NY

........................................... 13   Orrin Osborne b: Apr 5, 1820 in Windham, NY d: Aug 28, 1898 in Gloversville, NY

.................................................  +Diadama Coons  b: Dec 17, 1824 in Greendale, NY m: Mar 5, 1853 d: Feb 10, 1917 in Gloversville, NY

.............................................. 14   Marvin N Osborne b: Oct 6, 1858 in Durham, NY d: Apr 1893 in Gloversville, NY 

.....................................................  +Jennie Bailey  b: Apr 1, 1865  m: Nov 5, 1883 in Gloversville, NY d: Jun 2, 1912 in Gloversville, NY

.................................................. 15   Walter Osborne b: Jun 23, 1886  in Gloversville, NY d Feb 19, 1981 in Saratoga Springs, NY

........................................................  +Zetta Reynolds b: Nov2, 1895 in Cranberry Creek, NY m: Sep 25, 1911 in Jersey City, NJ d: Jan 5, 1957 in Johnstown, NY

...................................................... 16   Marvin Osborne

............................................................  +Dorothy  

.......................................................... 17   Kathleen Osborne  

...................................................... 16   Elton Osborne

............................................................  +Betty

.......................................................... 17   Douglas Osborne  

................... 7   John Osborne b: Jul 31, 1631 in Ashford, Kent, England  d: May 2, 1687 in East Hampton, Long Island, NY

.........................  +Marian Jones b: Abt. 1631 in East Hampton, Suffolk, NY m: Abt. 1658 in Ashford, Kent, England d: May 9, 1704 in Wainscott, Suffolk, NY

....................... 8   Ephriam Osborn b: Abt. 1666  d: Jul 6, 1744

.......................... 9   Ephriam Osborn b: Abt. 1690  d: Aft. Jun 2, 1756

................................  +Mary Osborn b: Jun 18, 1696 in New Haven, New Haven Co., CT 

See Note 2..................... 10   John OR Daniel OR Phineas Osborn b: Bet. 1718 - 1735 in New Haven or Cheshire, New Haven Co., CT 

.................................. 11   Phineas Osborn b: Bet. 1760 - 1770 

........................................  +Eleanor Elizabeth Thornton  

..................................... 12   Deacon Phineas A Osborn b: Apr 18, 1802  d: Sep 3, 1880

...........................................  +Clarissa Ann Frame b: Aug 2, 1805  d: Feb 2, 1855

......................................... 13   William Osborn b: Apr 14, 1842 in Clayton, Jefferson Co., NH  d: Dec 13, 1900 in Elk City, Douglas Co., NE

...............................................  +Evelyn Jerucia King b: Feb 9, 1849 in Busti, Chautauqua, NY m: Jan 10, 1871 in Union Mills, PA d: May 19, 1916 in Elk City, Douglas Co., NE

............................................ 14   Arthur King Osborn b: Sep 7, 1872 in Titusville, Crawford Co., PA  d: Jul 15, 1957 in Omaha, Douglas Co., NE

..................................................  +Ella Irene Tabler b: Dec 15, 1881 in Elk City, Douglas Co., NE m: Sep 8, 1901 in Elkhorn, Douglas Co., NE d: Mar 25, 1965 in Lincoln, Lancaster Co., NE

................................................ 15   William Osborn

......................................................  +Alice

.................................................... 16   Gerald Arthur Osborn

…………………..........12   Schuyler S Osborn b: 1800 in Herkimer Co., NY 

...........................................  +Chloe Patchin  m: 1825 in Clayton/Depauville, NY

.......................................... 13   Dexter Schuyler Osborn b: 1826 

...............................................  +Sarah Ann Eldridge  m: 1848 in Clayton, NY

............................................. 14   John Dexter Osborn b: 1849 in Depauville, NY 

..................................................  +Elizabeth Massey  m: 1882 in Grand Rapids, MI

................................................. 15   Bessie Osborn

.......................................................  +Earle

...................................................... 16   Ralph Dexter Sr Waite

...........................................................   + Naomi

............................................................ 17   Ralph Dexter Jr Waite

............................................. 14   Charles Edward Osborn b: Dec 20, 1855  d: 1939

...................................................  +Elizabeth R Ebner  m: 1892 in Grand Rapids, MI

................................................. 15   Claud Osborn

.......................................................  +Anne

..................................................... 16   Richard E (Dick) Osborn 

................... 7   Stephen Osborne-4954 b: Feb 24, 1634 in Ashford, Kent, England  d: Jul 1698 in Elizabeth, Union, NJ

.........................  +Sarah Stanborough b: Abt. 1635 in Southampton, Suffolk, NY m: Abt. 1657 in Southampton, Long Island,  NY d: 1694 in Southampton, Long Island, NY

....................... 8   Jeremiah Osborn-5389 b: 1661 in East Hampton, Long Island, NY  d: Oct 2, 1766 in of Morris County, NJ

.............................  +Abigail Ogden b: Abt. 1675 in Elizabeth, Union, NJ m: 1685 in , , NJ

See Note 3.......... 9   Jeremiah Osborne-12665 & Jeremiah-5482 b: Abt. 1690 in Elizabeth, Union, NJ  d: Abt. 1766 in South Fork of the Potomac, Augusta Co., VA

................................  +Phebe Higgins b: Abt. 1703 in Elizabeth, Union, NJ m: Abt. 1722 in Elizabeth, Union, NJ d: in South Fork of the Potomac, Augusta Co., VA

.............................. 10   Jeremiah Osborn-4828 b: Apr 17, 1729 in of, Morris , NJ  d: 1806 in , Warren, KY

....................................  +Mary Newman b: 1733 in , , VA m: 1756 in , , VA d: Aft. 1800 in , , NC

.................................. 11   Jonathan Osburn b: Jun 2, 1766 in Augusta, VA  d: Jul 1, 1834 in Parke, IN

........................................  +Margaret Claypool b: Abt. 1772 m: Aug 22, 1785

..................................... 12   Stephen Osburn b: May 14, 1801 in KY  d: 1880 in Jackson, KS

...........................................  +Charlotte Shintaffer b: 1811 in OH m: Dec 25, 1828 in Green, IN d: 1874 in Jackson, KS

......................................... 13   Stephen Douglas Osburn b: Oct 10, 1851 in Lisbon, Linn Co., IA  d: Aug 4, 1914 in El Dorado Springs, Cedar Co., MO

...............................................  +Purthena Ann Smalley b: Jan 18, 1857 in IA m: Jun 4, 1874 in America City, KS d: 1922 in Enid, Garfield Co., OK

............................................ 14   Harvey Osburn

..................................................  +Ephamania

................................................ 15   Nancy Osburn

…………............................ 14   Fred W Osburn

................................................ 15   William Osburn  

..................................................... 16  Donald Lee Osburn  

 .................................. 11   John Osborn b: Oct 27, 1770 in Augusta, VA  d: Nov 27, 1848 in GA

........................................  +Jane Claypool b: Feb 18, 1769 in Augusta, VA  d: Jan 28, 1835 in GA

..................................... 12   Newman Osborn b: Feb 9, 1791 in Rutherford Co., NC  d: Sep 10, 1867 in Bluff Dale, Earth Co., TX

...........................................  + Judith Harris b: Aug 10, 1793 in Anderson, Greenville Co., SC  d: Mar 28, 1867 in Erath Co., TX

......................................... 13   Jeremiah Pinkney Osborn b: May 20, 1827 in Buncombe Co., NC  d: Apr 21, 1917 in Clyde, TX

...............................................  +Nancy H Elesworth b: Aug 5, 1822 in SC  d: Dec 1901 in TX

............................................ 14   Newman William Osborn b: Apr 19, 1860 in Erath Co., TX  d: Feb 22, 1893 in Bosque Co., TX

..................................................  +Sarah Louise Kilmer b: May 17, 1862 in Izard Co., AR  d: Oct 16, 1915 in Bosque Co., TX

................................................ 15   John Henry Osborn b: May 27, 1892 in Eulogy, Bosque Co., TX  d: Jun 19, 1914 in Eulogy, Bosque Co., TX

......................................................  +Lula Belle Lindsey b: Dec 13, 1882 in Stone Co., AR  d: Dec 24, 1965

.................................................... 16   J. D. Osborne

..........................................................  +Dorothy

....................................................... 17   Wayne Osborne  

.................................. 11   Reuben Osborne b: Bet. 1774 - 1784 

........................................  +Matha Dunn  

..................................... 12   Reuben Bolivar Osborne  

...........................................  +Nancy Manley   

......................................... 13   Alexander Ewing Osborne  

...............................................  +Eliza Jane Read Weaver  

............................................ 14   Bartley Osborne  

..................................................  +Cordelia

................................................ 15   Bartley Porter Osborne 

.............................. 10   John Osborn b: Abt. 1732 in , Morris, New Jersey  d: Jul 29, 1806 in Greenbrier Co, Greenbrier, Wv

....................................  +Elizabeth (Betty) Claypool b: Abt. 1739 in Cedar Branch, Rockingham, VA m: Jan 1758 in Augusta Co., Virginia d: Bef. May 5, 1805 in , Greenbrier, WV

.................................. 11   David Osborn b: 1781 in , Greenbriar, WV  d: Bef. Aug 6, 1807 in , Greenbriar, WV

........................................  +Mary Harrah b: Nov 1, 1782 in , Greenbrier, WV m: Jan 3, 1798 in Greebr Co, Greenbrier, Wv d: Dec 21, 1855 in , Greene Co, IN

..................................... 12   David Osborn b: Mar 31, 1807 in , Greenbrier, WV  d: Jun 12, 1893 in Montpelier, Bear Lake, ID

...........................................  +Cynthia Butler b: Nov 19, 1811 in , Gallia, Ohio m: Apr 10, 1828 in , Owen, In d: Jul 2, 1852 in , , NE

......................................... 13   David Osborn b: Apr 19, 1838 in 10 mi N Far West, Davis, MO  d: Feb 4, 1917 in Rexburg, Madison, ID

...............................................  +Nancy Thorn b: Oct 24, 1841 in Summerhill, Crawford, PA m: Dec 25, 1857 in Three Mile Creek, Box Elder, UT d: Apr 6, 1918 in Rexburg, Madison, ID

............................................ 14   William Wallace Osborn b: Feb 14, 1876 in Montpelier, Bear Lake, ID  d: Jan 3, 1937 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA

..................................................  +Alice Mabel Hamlin b: Nov 23, 1878 in Gloucester, Essex, MA m: Jun 3, 1908 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, UT d: Jan 18, 1965 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, UT

................................................ 15   Spencer Osborn 

......................................................  +Avanelle

.................................................... 16   Mark Osborn

................................10   George Osborne b: Abt. 1725 in Morris, New Jersey  d: Jul 21, 1783 in Lost River, Hardy, VA

.....................................  +Hannah H. b: Abt. 1737 in Lost River, Hardy, VA  d: Abt. 1790 in Hardy, VA

....................................11   Solomon Osborn b: 1766  d: 1839

........................................  +Margaret Denton b: Dec 16, 1771 in VA m: 1789 d: Aft. 1850 in IN

...................................... 12   Solomon Osborn b: Nov 10, 1800 in TN 

............................................  +Rebecca Feltner b: Aug 21, 1803 in KY m: Apr 4, 1822 in Lawrence Co., IN

........................................... 13   Jacob Feltner Osborn b: 1829 

................................................  +Elizabeth Blake  

................................................ 14   William F Osborn  

...................................................15   R Everett Osborn b: 1892 in IN  d: 1947 in San Diego, CA

........................................................  +Mabel

..................................................... 16   Jones Osborn

...........................................................  +Anna

......................................................... 17   Heather Osborn Stilley

 

Note 1:  Lee Osborn has identified primary sources of information back to Thomas Osborne-12724, but not earlier.  The ancestors of Thomas shown here are believed by some people to be his ancestors and are shown here with this caveat until better documentation is found.

 

Note 2:  According to research that Gerald Osborn, Joe Osborn, and Lee Osborne have done, the records are clear enough about who Phineas’ (b.1760-1770) relatives are to know from circumstantial evidence that Ephriam Osborn (b Abt 1690) is his grandfather. The problem is that Ephraim and Mary had three sons whose families aren't known -- John, Daniel, and Phineas (b. 1735) -- and currently there are no records giving a clue as to which of these is father of Phineas (b. ca1766).   In order to continue Gerald’s ancestors as far back as is known, I have listed the three possibilities for Phineas’ father, and then continued with Phineas’ known grandfather.

 

Note 3:  The problem at this point is that there is primary documentation for two Jeremiah Osborn’s, now shown separately as Jeremiah Osborne-12665, and Jeremiah-5482 on Lee’s Osborne Origins.  There is documentation that Jeremiah-12665 is the father of Jeremiah-4828 m Mary Newman, who is Nancy and Wayne’s ancestor, but no indication of who his father is. (See Lee’s comment for Jeremiah-12665.) So Nancy and Wayne were stalled at this point.  On the other hand, Jeremiah-5482 is known to be the son of Jeremiah-5389 who is the son of Stephen m Sarah Stanborough and connects from there to Thomas m Mary Goatley.  In view of the dna results it is believed likely that these two Jeremiahs are actually the same person so I have shown them both here with this caveat until better documentation resolves this issue.

 

Contacts: 

To exchange information or inquire about Nancy Osburn’s ancestors please email Nancy at < wrj2@earthlink.net >.  Also see Nancy’s web site at < http://home.earthlink.net/~wrj2/data/ >. 

 

To exchange information or inquire about Wayne Osborne’s ancesters, please email Wayne at < yelofiero@aol.com >.  Wayne’s web site is at < http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/o/s/b/Wayne-L-Osborne/ >.

 

To exchange information or inquire about Gerald Osborn’s ancestors please email him at < gosborn@windstream.net > 

 

To exchange information or inquire about Bartley’s ancestors please email him at < SpdFrk@aol.com >.

 

To exchange information or inquire about Mark’s ancestors please email him at < Mark@cobblestones.com >.

 

To exchange information or inquire about Darlene and Daniel’s ancestors please email Daniel at < dosborne@dot.state.nv.us > or Roy at < royc@cts.com >.  Darlene’s Rootsweb database is at < http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=royc-osborn&id=I318 > where she and Roy have many interesting notes on their early ancestors.

 

To exchange information or inquire about Ralph Waite and Dick Osborn’s ancestors please email Ralph at

< ralphwaite@dexnow.com > or Dick Osborn at < diosbo5057@sbcglobal.net >.  Ralph is researching his grandmother Bessie Osborn’s ancestors and is using his second cousin Dick as his ydna surrogate.  Ralph also has a genealogy web site at < www.ralphwaite.com >.

 

To exchange information or inquire about Heather’s ancestors please email her at < stilleyclan@comcast.net >.

 

To exchange information or inquire about Kathleen and Douglas’ ancestors please email Kathleen at < klogan24@comcast.net >.  Kathleen and her sister are researching their Osborne line using the dna of their cousin Douglas Osborne.

 

 

Ancestors of John P Osborne and Denver Jackson Osborne

 

1   Solomon Osborne b: 1768 in NC  d: 1851 in Indian Creek, Pike Co., KY

.  +Hannah Bowling b: 1766 in Salisbury, NC  d: in Indian Creek, Pike Co., KY

..... 2   Sherwood Osborne b: 1788 in Dungannan, VA  d: 1837 in Indian Creek, Pike Co., KY

.........  +Levisa (Louisa) Collier  

............ 3   John Wesley Osborne b: 1824 in Indian Creek, Pike Co., KY 

................  +Cenia (Lena) Moore b: 1825 

................... 4   George Washinton (Sr) Osborne b: May 18, 1855 in Pike Co., KY  d: Apr 30, 1934 in Dorton, Pike Co., KY

.......................  +Zylphia Tacket b: Jan 23, 1855 in Dorton, Pike Co., KY m: Jul 24, 1873 d: Jan 12, 1941

.......................... 5   Joseph "Joe" Osborne b: Jan 22, 1882 in Wales, PIke Co., KY  d: Mar 23, 1921 in Pike Co., KY

..............................  + Ollie Francis Osborne b: Dec 12, 1882 in Dorton, Pike Co., KY  d: Jan 21, 1958 in Dorton, Pike Co., KY

.................................. 6    Millard Osborne

......................................  + Ethel

......................................... 7    John P Osborne

............ 3   Stephen Osborne b: Abt. 1819 in VA  d: 1888 in Pike Co., KY

................  +Nancy Mullins  m: Jul 2, 1840 in Pike Co., KY

................... 4   Booker Steve Osborne  

.......................... 5   Franklin Marion Osborne b: 1864  d: 1960

.................................. 6   Abraham Osborne  

......................................... 7   Denver Jackson Osborne  

 

Contacts: 

To exchange information or inquire about John Osborne’s ancestors please email John at < jposborne@comcast.net >. 

To exchange information or inquire about Denver Jackson Osborne’s ancestors please email Denver at < osbornek1@verizon.net >.

 

 

 

Ancestors of Joe Osborn and George E Osborne

 

1   Caleb Osborn   d: Bef. Aug 7, 1781 in Rowan Co., NC

.  +Hannah Unknown  

..... 2   William Osborn b: 1763 in Rowan Co., NC  d: Bef. May 13, 1841 in Warrick Co., IN

.........  +Unknown Unknown  

............ 3   James Osborn b: Abt. 1791 in SC  d: Dec 1, 1871 in Greenup Co., KY

................  +Abigail Greenslate b: Abt. 1796  d: Abt. 1833 in Greenup Co., KY

................... 4   Nathan Osborn b: Jan 25, 1828 in Greenup Co., KY  d: Dec 28, 1921 in Hart, Oceana Co., MI

.......................  +Elizabeth Angeline Olds b: Feb 5, 1834 in IN  d: Jan 26, 1903 in Tremaine, Hamilton Co., IA

.......................... 5   Pelissier Briggs Osborn b: Nov 20, 1855 in Wellman, Washington Co., IA  d: Jul 14, 1924 in Hart, Oceana Co., MI

..............................  +Adella Mariah Stickney b: Dec 4, 1859 in Otsego Co., NY  d: Jun 14, 1945 in Hart, Oceana Co., MI

.................................. 6   Nathan Stickney Osborn b: Dec 11, 1888 in Parkston, Hutchinson Co., SD  d: Jan 23, 1973 in Minneapolis, MN

......................................  +Maude T. Hanson b: Jan 4, 1889 in Ellsworth, Hamilton Co., IA  d: Sep 17, 1968 in Ellsworth, Hamilton Co., IA

......................................... 7   Robert Grant Osborn

.............................................  +Priscilla

................................................ 8   Joseph A Osborn

..... 2   Stephen Osborn b: Abt. 1740 in NJ  d: 1820 in Scott Co., VA

.........  +Comfort Langham   d: Dec 1, 1824 in Scott Co., VA

............ 3   Jonathan Osborn b: Abt. 1772 in NC  d: 1861 in Scott Co., VA

................  +Martha Gray b: 1785 in VA  d: in Scott Co., VA

................... 4   John C Osborne b: Oct 5, 1802 in Scott Co., VA  d: Jan 31, 1863 in Scott Co., VA

.......................  +Polly Corder b: 1806 in Tazewell Co., VA  d: in Scott Co., VA

.......................... 5   Stephen J Osborne b: Abt. 1842 in Scott Co., VA  d: Abt. 1921 in Scott Co., VA

..............................  +Emiline Frazier b: Mar 1855 in Scott Co., VA  d: Jan 25, 1899 in Scott Co., VA

.................................. 6   Lilburn P Osborne b: May 5, 1870 in Scott Co., VA  d: 1934 in Scott Co., VA

......................................  +Suzanne Navada Vicars b: Dec 30, 1886 in Russell Co., VA  d: Nov 17, 1954 in Scott Co., VA

......................................... 7   Silas C Osborne

.............................................  +Hattie

................................................ 8   George E Osborne

 

 

Contacts: 

To exchange information or inquire about Joe Osborn’s ancestors please email Joe at < jnmosborn@att.net  >. 

To exchange information or inquire about George E’s line please email George at < geodad225@comcast.net >.

 

 

 

Ancestors of Donald Osborne

 1   Joseph Osborn b: Oct 10, 1825 Morgan Co., KY 

.  +Matilda Ann Murphy b: Abt. 1827 m: May 20, 1847

..... 2   William Osborne b: Dec 19, 1848 Morgan Co., KY 

.........  +Arminta Howard b: Jan 4, 1857 m: Nov 30, 1876

............ 3   John Chester Osborne b: Mar 28, 1878 Frenchburg, KY  d: Apr 13, 1953

................  +Margaret Sheehan Vaughn b: Feb 1869 m: 1902 d: 1954 Shelbyville, IL

................... 4   John Garland Osborne b: Mar 31, 1903 Woodbury, IL 

.......................  +Lula Marie Flood  m: Jul 27, 1927 d: Nov 11, 1986 Terre Haute, IN

.......................... 5   Donald Gene (Sr) Osborne 

..............................  +Joan

.................................. 6   Donald Osborne

 

Contact: 

To exchange information or inquire about Donald Osborne’s ancestors please email Donald at < osborne_donald@hotmail.com >.  Donald also has a family web site at

< http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/o/s/b/Donald-G-Osborne-IN/index.html >, and his database on Rootsweb is at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:349387&id=I66078390  starting with Joseph Osborn.

 

 

 

Ancestors of Thorstan Osborne

 1   James Osborne b: 1843 in KY 

.  +Emily Jones b: 1843 in KY 

..... 2   William Osborne b: 1884 in Leslie Co., KY  d: Jul 25 in Leslie Co., KY

.........  +Jane Rice b: 1895 in KY  d: Sep 1962 in Leslie Co., KY

............ 3   Gilley Osborne b: Aug 15, 1915 in KY  d: Jul 20, 1999 in Leslie Co., KY

................  +Pearlie Jones b: Apr 28, 1919  d: May 20, 1996

................... 4   Willie Osborne b: in Leslie Co., KY 

.......................  +Sophie Holland b: in Leslie Co., KY 

.......................... 5   Dennis Osborne 

..............................  +Oultie 

.................................. 6   Thorstan Osborne

 

Contact: 

To exchange information or inquire about Thorstan Osborne’s ancestors please email Thorstan at < thorstan_o@yahoo.com >

 

 

 

Ancestors of David M Osborne

 1   Nehamiah M. Osborn b: 1815 in TN  d: Aft. 1890

.  +Unknown (Osborn) b: Abt. 1815 in Carter Co., KY m: Bef. 1839 in KY? d: Bef. 1860

..... 2   Andrew Jackson Osborn b: 1838 in Carter Co., KY  d: Jun 24, 1885 in Jackson, Jackson Co., OH

.....  *2nd Wife of Andrew Jackson Osborn:  

.........  +Eliza N. Dooley b: Abt. 1845 in KY m: Feb 28, 1861 in Clarksburg, Lewis Co., KY d: Aug 17, 1883 in Vanceburg, Lewis Co., KY

............ 3   Elza Osborne b: Jan 13, 1880 in Quincy, Lewis Co., KY  d: Feb 14, 1960 in Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OH

............  *2nd Wife of Elza Osborne:  

................  +May Elizabeth Schweitzer b: Aug 7, 1884 in Westwood, OH m: Jan 29, 1906 in Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OH d: Aug 21, 1955 in Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OH

................... 4   Raymond Homer Joseph Osborne b: Dec 11, 1911 in Portsmouth, Scioto Co., OH 

.......................  +Della Elizabeth Shaw b: Jul 11, 1911 in OH m: Sep 15, 1935 in Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OH

.......................... 5   Robert Osborne

..............................  +Andree

.................................. 6   David M Osborne 

 

Contact: 

To exchange information or inquire about David Osborne’s ancestors please email  David at < osborne.dave@gene.com >

 

 

 

Ancestors of John Edward Osborne

 

 1   William W. Osborn b: 1806 in NJ (Dover, Morris Co.,?)  d: 05 Oct 1871 in Wooster, Wayne Co., OH

.  +Margaret T. Robinson b: 1809 in Bucks Co., PA, m: 24 Feb 1831 in Bucks Co., PA d: 13 Oct 1853 in Carlisle, Cumberland Co., PA

........ 2   James R. Osborne  b: 27 Aug 1835 in PA, probably Bucks Co.  d: 25 Dec 1900 in Galion, Crawford Co., OH

............  +Mary Adrian  b: Jul 1835 in Jefferson Twp, Crawford Co., OH m: 22 Dec 1859 in Crawford Co., OH d: 19 Sep 1872 in Galion, Crawford Co., OH

................... 3   John William Osborne b: Oct 1860 in Galion, Crawford Co., OH  d: 1911 in Kansas City, KS

.......................  +Lavina Youmans b: 22 Apr 1857 in Scranton, Greene Co., IA m: 07 Jul 1883 in Scranton, Greene Co., IA d: 20 Jul 1934 in San Francisco, CA

.............................. 4   Clarence Edward Osborne b: 28 Jan 1889 in Stewartsville, Clinton Co., MO  d: 14 Aug 1966 in Fairbanks, AK

..................................  +Margaret Jerenne Hazelet b: 26 Oct 1894 in O'Neill, NB m: 30 Dec 1917 in Omaha, NB d: 23 Jun 1965 in Madison, WI

......................................... 5   Edward Y Osborne

.............................................  +Edith

.................................................... 6   John Edward Osborne

 

Contact: 

To exchange information or inquire about John Osborne’s ancestors please email John at < johno@johneosborne.com >.  John has a web site at < http://www.osborne-hazelet.net/trees/osborne2.htm > where he outlines speculations on how he may be related to Thomas m Mary Goatly.

 

 

 

Ancestors of Evelyn Fricke and both Donald Lee Osbornes

 

 1   Abraham Osborne b: 1736 in Elizabethtown, NJ   d: 1792 in Morristown, NJ

...  +Rachel Hole  

..... 2   Usual Osborn b: 1773 in Morristown, NJ  d: Aft. 1840 in IL

...........  +Deborah Springer b: Abt. 1772 in PA m: Mar 3, 1796 in North Bend, Hamilton Co., OH d: Abt. 1816 in Madison, OH

............ 3   Silas Osborn b: in OH  d: Abt. 1850 in IL

..................  +Nancy Jane Lee b: Aug 1823 in Madison, OH m: Abt. 1843 in IL  d: Mar 17, 1864 in Manchester, Delaware Co., IA

................... 4   Henry Clay Osborne b: Apr 12, 1845 in Clay Co., IL  d: May 14, 1909 in Madison, Lake, SD

...................  *2nd Wife of Henry Clay Osborne:  

.........................  +Mary Elizabeth Schott b: Mar 22, 1849 in White Lake, Oneida, NY m: Sep 22, 1872 in Independence, Buchannan, IA

                                d: Oct 14, 1942 in Belle Fourche, Butte, SD

.......................... 5   Cecil F Osborne

................................  +Flora

.................................. 6   Richard L Osborne

..................................  *2nd Wife of Richard L Osborne:  

........................................  +Brenda

......................................... 7   Donald Lee Osborne

.................................. 6   Evelyn Osborne Fricke 

.....  *2nd Wife of Usual Osborn:  

...........  +Jemima Brookhart  m: Jul 15, 1817 in ,Madison, OH d: Aft. 1860 in Effingham, IL

See Note..... 3   John C. Osborn b: 1818 in Madison Co., OH  d: May 20, 1862 in Union Twp., Effingham, IL

..................  +Matilda Nancy Heflin  m: Apr 29, 1843 in Blair twp., Clay, IL

................... 4   Oliver Osborn b: 1840 in Mason, IL  d: 1932 in Effingham, IL

.......................... 5   Alonzo Osborn b: 1882 in Effingham, IL  d: 1973 in Mattoon, IL

.................................. 6   Richard Osborne

......................................... 7   Donald Lee Osborne

 

 Note: Donald and Evelyn believe that their common ancestor is Usual Osborne.  They believe that Donald descends from Usual and his second wife, Jemima Brookhart, whereas Evelyn descends from his first wife, Deborah Springer.  Donald writes: “Although no direct documentation exists there is a geographic and interactive relationship over a considerable time to connect John C. Osborn and Uzal/Usual Osborn. Also two signed documents from descendents of two documented sons (Levi and Charles) of Usual claiming relationship and continuing interaction until present day between our families. Not to mention the new DNA indications that seem to confirm our research.”

 

Contacts:

Evelyn is using her nephew, Donald Lee Osborne, as her surrogate dna donor. To exchange information or inquire about Evelyn’s  ancestors please email Evelyn at < osborneoffspring@yahoo.com >. 

To exchange information or inquire about Donalds’s ancestors please email Donald at < dosborne@consolidated.net >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Candice and Richard W Osborn

 

1   William Lawrence Osborne

........ 2   Amos W Osborn

............  +Clara

................... 3   Eugene W Osborn

.............................. 4   Candice Osborn

................... 3   Richard W Osborn

 

Contact:

Candice is using her uncle, Richard W Osborn, as her surrogate dna donor.  They do not know much about their ancestors but what is known is shown here.  To exchange information or inquire about their ancestors please email Candice at < cjsmiles56@hotmail.com >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Herbert H Osborn

 

 1   David Osborn  b: Abt  1770 in VA  d: in Henry Co., IN

.  +Hannah Banta  m: Jun 28, 1801 in Hamilton Co., OH

..... 2   Albert Banta Osborn   d: in Damascus, OR

.........  +Mary Ann Haggard  m: in Dubuque, IA

............ 3   William Osborn   d: in Escalante, UT

................  +Harriet Artenses Elmer  m: in Panuitch, UT

................... 4   Warren J Osborn

.......................  +Ruby

.......................... 5   Herbert H Osborn  

 

Contact:

To exchange information or inquire about his ancestors please email Herbert at < hmosborn@comcast.net >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of J David Osborn

 

1  Cyrus Osborn  d: 1817/1818

.. + Hannah Unknown d: Aft 1818

..... 2   Solomon G Osborn  b: Abt 1812 in OH

.........  +Phebe A Unknown  b: Abt 1815 in OH

............ 3   David Crockett Osborn b: Jul 1840,  m: Abt 1876

................  +Mary Elizabeth Hargrave b: May 1858  in MO

................... 4   Jasper W Osborn  b: Oct 30, 1880 in Lowry City, MO  d: Nov 22, 1959  in Osceola, MO m: Feb 17, 1904

.......................  +Nettie Josephine (Josie) Noakes  b: May 29, 1913 in Henry, MO

.......................... 5   Harry Osborn  

..............................  +Ila

................................. 6   J David Osborn  

 

Contact:

To exchange information or inquire about his ancestors please email David at < ckkc@wigi.us >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Robert T  Osborne

 

 1   Ephriam Osborne b: 1723  d: Aft Apr 23, 1794 in Grayson Co, VA  

. 2   Johathan Osborne  b:  Feb 13, 1753 in Rowan Co., NC  d:  Apr 11, 1834 in Ashe Co., NC

.......  +Nancy Howell  b: Abt 1755,  d: about 1795  

..... 3   William  Osborne  b: Abt 1784 in VA,   d: Aft 1864

...........  +Mary  b: Abt 1784 in NC, d: Aft 1862

........ 4   Jordon Enoch Osborne  b: 1804 in VA

…………+ Mary Jane Ham  b: 1806 in VA

............ 5   Jackson Osborne  b:1848 in Independence, VA  d: 1929 in Independence, VA

..................  +Jeston Rector  b: 1852 in VA  d: 1921 in Independence, VA 

................ 6   John Guy Osborne b: 1879 in Independence, VA  d: 1949 in Galax, VA

………………+Sarah Malinda Haga b:1879 in Independence, VA  d: 1956 in Independence, VA 

................... 7   Troy J Osborne 

.........................  +Eula  

....................... 8   Robert T Osborne

 

Contact:

To exchange information or inquire about his ancestors please email Robert at < shelbygil@embarqmail.com >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Geoff L Osborne and Nita Osborne Harrison

 

 1   James Osborne b: 1806 in VA,  

.  +Martha McIntosh b: 1808 in VA,  m: Bef. 1828

........ 2   Nehemiah Marshall Osborne b: May 1833 in Ashe, NC,   d: 1924 in Rose Hill, Lee, VA,

............  +Mary Ann Hensley b: May 1837 in Yancy, NC m: Feb 19, 1857 in Harlan, KY, 

................... 3   George James Washington Garrard Osborne b: Jan 29, 1861 in Wallins Creek, Harlan, KY,   d: Oct 22, 1945 in Hagan, Lee, VA,

.....................  *2nd Wife of George James Washington Garrard Osborne:  

.......................  +Mary O. Fee b: May 11, 1862 in KY,  m: 1880 d: Aug 19, 1917

.............................. 4   Lloyd Huff Osborne b: Mar 22, 1888 in KY,   d: Apr 27, 1938 in Harlan, KY,

..................................  +Chloe E. Brooks b: Jun 22, 1892 in Shawanee, Claiborne, TN,   d: Jul 12, 1934

......................................... 5   Roy Lester Osborne b: Aug 10, 1916 in Lee, VA,   d: May 24, 1978 in Detroit, Wayne, MI,

.............................................  +Ethel Thompson b: Jun 25, 1918 in KY,   d: Oct 15, 1989 in Middlesborough, Bell, KY,

.................................................... 6   Robert B Osborne 

........................................................  +Shirley

.............................................................. 7   Nita Osborne

.............................................................. 7   Geoff L Osborne 

 

Contact:

Nita is researching their line using her brother, Geoff’s dna.  To exchange information or inquire about their ancestors please email Nita at < harrisonn1@comcast.net >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Jimmy Dale Osborne

 

 1   Thomas Osborne b: Abt. 1887 in Locust Grove, Stone Co., AR 

..  +Unknown Spouse  

  *2nd Wife of Thomas Osborne:  

..  +Sarah Elizabeth Riley (Lizzie) b: Abt. 1889 in MO  m: 1904

..... 2   Junius Osborne (Juneis) b: Apr 21, 1908 in Mountain View, AR  d: Jul 1, 1972 in Folsom, Sacramento, CA

.........  +Clara

............. 3   Jimmy Dale Osborne

 

Contact:

Jim does not know much about his Osborne ancestors and doesn’t go back any further than his grandfather at the present time.  His dna test shows that he is most closely related to Mark, who bears the ancestral haplotype.  To exchange information or inquire about his ancestors please email Jim at < osborne_jd@hotmail.com >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Ronald Mike Osborne

 

 1   Elias Osborne b: Abt. 1774  d: Aft. 1860 in Smyth Co., VA

..  +Sarah Ann Sizemore b: Abt. 1775 in VA  d: Abt. 1839

. 2   Ezekial Osborne b: 1796 in Ashe/Alleghany, NC  d: 1848 in Ashe Co., NC

.....  +Elizabeth Taylor b: Abt. 1805 m: 1823 d: Jul 6, 1887 in Tazewell Co., VA

..... 3   Isom Burton Osborne b: 1823 in NC  d: Feb 6, 1895 in Tazewell Co., VA

.........  +Maria Maizie Phipps b: Abt. 1828 m: Abt. 1843 in Grayson Co., VA

......... 4   William Riley Osborne b: 1852 in Tazewell Co., VA  d: 1898 in Gardner, Russell Co., VA

.............  +Hannah I Tuggle b: 1855 in Patrick Co., VA m: Dec 1873 in Russell Co., VA d: Sep 9, 1941 in Gardner, Russell Co., VA

............. 5   John Preston Osborne b: Mar 28, 1881 in Russell Co., VA  d: Sep 29, 1962 in Drill, Russell Co., VA

.................  +Dasy Gertrude Duff b: Mar 27, 1887 in Russell Co., VA m: Sep 22, 1903 in Russell Co., VA d: Sep 17, 1970 in Drill, Russell Co., VA

................ 6   Paul T Osborne

....................  +Edna

.................... 7   Ronald Mike Osborne

 

Contact:

Ronald has been unable to determine who is the father of Elias Osborne, so he is hoping that the dna test will help narrow his search.  His dna test shows that he is most closely related to Mark, who bears the ancestral haplotype, being only one mutation away from the ancestral haplotype.  To exchange information or inquire about his ancestors please email Ronald at < ronmike@verizon.net >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of David Robert Osborn

    

 

 1   Caleb Osborn   d: Bef. Aug 7, 1781 in Rowan Co., NC

..  +Hannah  

..... 2   James Osborn b: 1745  d: Dec 14, 1821 in Russell Co., VA

.........  +Mary Whittaker  

............ 3   Jonathan Osborn b: 1779 in VA  d: Apr 6, 1874 in Marion Co., IN

................  +Nancy E. Unknown b: Abt. 1813  d: Bef. Jun 8, 1851

................... 4   David S. Osborn b: Mar 23, 1842 in Marion Co., IN  d: Feb 28, 1894 in Hamilton Co., IN

.......................  +Hannah Roberts b: Aug 5, 1839  d: Aug 31, 1903

.......................... 5   George Washington Osborn b: Oct 20, 1879 in Marion Co., IN  d: Jan 31, 1965 in Marion Co., IN

..............................  +Bessie S. Kercheval b: Jun 6, 1888  d: Mar 29, 1913

................................. 6   John Robert Osborn

.....................................  +Margaret

........................................ 7   David Robert Osborn  

 

Note:  David is one of the newest members of the project, joining in November 2010 with a 67-marker test.  He and Mark Osborn, above, are a perfect match on all 67 markers, which is rare.  This indicates a very recent common ancestor and the FTDNATip probabilites (see the 67-marker Genetic Distance table) indicate that there is an 89.79% cumulative probability that David and Mark are related within 4 generations.  Marks line above seems pretty well established, so Davids line may need to be re-examined closely given this new dna knowledge.

 

Contact:

To exchange information or inquire about his ancestors please email David at < David.Osborn@denverseminary.edu >

 

 

Ancestors of Gary Lee Osburn

We do not yet know the ancestors of Gary Lee Osburn.  To exchange information or inquire about Gary’s ancestors please email Gary at < gary@osburn.net >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Warren Dale Osborn

We do not yet know the ancestors of Warren Dale Osborn.  To exchange information or inquire about Warren’s ancestors please email Tammy Foster at < sassycosmo77@hotmail.com >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Marshall K Osborne

We do not yet know the ancestors of Marshall K Osborne.  To exchange information or inquire about Marshall’s ancestors please email Marshall at < jclvern@verizon.net >. 

 

 

 

Ancestors of Dennis Michael Osborne

We do not yet know the ancestors of Dennis Michael Osborne.  To exchange information or inquire about Dennis’ ancestors please email Dennis at < tortisborne@gmail.com >.

 

 

 

Ancestors of David Ralph Osborne

We do not yet know the ancestors of David Ralph Osborne.  To exchange information or inquire about David’s ancestors please email David at < osborne@nes.nlm.nih.gov > or < davosb1@gmail.com >.

 

 

 

Ancestors of Steven Duane Osborne

We do not yet know the ancestors of Steven Duane Osborne.  To exchange information or inquire about Steven’s ancestors please email Steven at < sosborne@merlins-revenge.org >. 

 

 

 

Hypothetical Explanation of Relationships and DNA Results

 

In looking at the results in this group back in early 2006, we were fortunate to have Gerald’s well documented line 11 generations back to the immigrant Thomas Osborne m Mary Goatley, and to also have several people who have dna results for 25 and 37 marker tests.  So the question arose as to how these twelve people could be descendants of one person and yet have the dna results obtained in the various tests.  The genetic distances themselves are not much help.  But the genetic distance between two people is basically the number of mutations in the Alleles table.  So we can look at the mutations in the Alleles table and try to find a combination of mutations and when they occurred along the generations, which would match the known relationships AND the dna results.   To demonstrate how this might happen, refer to the diagram below which is a plot of each person’s ancestors along a time scale.

 

Time plot of ancestors of group members (click for larger image)

Previous versions:

1.0

 

 

 

 

In the diagram, the time scale up the left side goes from 1950 back to 1530.  Each known ancestor of each person in the group is shown by a solid point and their name, and the generations are connected by a solid line.  The names and dates are from the ancestral lists above.  Hypothetical and unknown people and generations are shown by open circles connected dashed lines.  Known people with unknown or private dates are shown in their approximate positions by diagonal slashes.  Unknown generations are assumed to be about 30 years apart, a common assumption and fairly consistent with the known generations. 

 

Mutations are shown by an X in a box with the Allele number beside it.  Mutations are also highlighted in yellow in the Alleles table.  For this entire Family Group, mutations have only occurred in 5 locations in the entire Alleles table:  #390 and #391 in the 12 marker test; #449 and #464c in the 25 marker test; and #576 in the 37 marker test.  For purposes of calculating a genetic distance, the two step mutation on #464c counts a genetic distance of only 1.  Only a few people have taken the 25 marker test, and only a few of those the 37 marker test, so that means that some people who have not taken these higher level tests may have additional mutations if and when they take higher level tests and that may change the conclusions somewhat.

 

The thumbnail image links to the current version of the diagram.  Previous versions can be accessed by clicking on the previous version numbers below the diagram.  It is anticipated that the diagrams will be updated as we get new people and new data is added.  For example, version 2.0 adds Denver J who connects to John P’s line at Sherwood, and moves John E over to hypothetically connect with Thorstan’s line.

 

The earliest ancestor by far is Gerald’s line which goes back to Thomas m Mary Goatly and his father Jeremy.  There is a lot of time and many generations between the earliest ancestor of every other person and these two, so there are lots of unknown ancestors in the diagram. 

 

There are three pairs of people who have known common ancestors; Nancy and Wayne who have Jeremiah in common; Joe and George E who have Caleb in common; and John P and Denver who have Sherwood in common. 

 

First we observe that Joe is the ONLY person in the entire Family Group that has a mutation on Allele #390.  If it weren't for that mutation, Joe would be solidly in Subset A and match each person exactly.  So it should be safe to assume that this mutation happened in Joe's line, sometime after Caleb or William.  It could be anywhere along his line as long as it’s after Caleb, but it has been arbitrarily indicated by the X in his line after William.  That explains how he and George E can both descend from Caleb and yet not match.  (All mutations are indicated by an X along the ancestral lines.) 

          

Given that, then Joe and George E can be grouped with the others in Subset A; Donald, Denver J, John P, Nancy, and Wayne.  Now we have two distinct groups which are different on the 12 marker test ONLY in Allele #391.  Now if we assume that ultimately Subset A descends from Thomas m Mary Goatly, then there must have been a mutation on #391 after that split in one of the lines.  That mutation has been arbitrarily shown between Thomas m Mary Goatly and John in Gerald’s line based on the "majority vote" principle.  It could be anywhere after the Subset A and Subset B lines split off, but before there are any other splits in Gerald's line.

 

We assume that Thomas m Mary Goatly is the common ancestor because he is the immigrant and it is more likely that the lines split after him, than that several lines split from Jeremy or earlier and then immigrated.  But it is nevertheless a working assumption and not proven.

 

The "majority vote" principle (my term) is based on the belief that mutations are very rare, and therefore when mutations do occur in a marker position, the mutation with the LEAST number of occurrences in the group is probably the mutation.  Note that this is PROBABLY, and not a certain thing, but as the number of people being compared increases, the higher the probability that this is correct.

 

These two single mutations explain the 12 marker results.  But there are some people who have 25 marker results and, of those, a few have 37 marker results.

 

Alleles #449 and #464c are in the 25 marker tests.  If we look at the #449 values, we see that everyone has 29 except Gerald who has a 28.  So we can assume that Gerald’s line is the one who had the mutation.  So Gerald’s line has been assigned that mutation, and arbitrarily placed between William and Arthur in his line, but it could be anywhere AFTER his line splits from anyone else.

 

Now we go on to #464c.  In this case 4 people have a value of 15 and 2 people have a value of 17, so by majority vote, we assume that the 17's are the mutations, and they then occur in John P's line and in David M's line.  They have been arbitrarily placed somewhere along those lines.  This explains the 25 marker results.

 

Looking at the 37 marker results, of the 4 people who have 37 marker results, 3 have a value of 19 on Allele #576, and only one, John P, has a value 20.  So by majority vote we assume that John P's line has the mutation. 

 

At the present time, we cannot say whether the two mutations in John P’s line are also shared by Denver because Denver has only the 12 marker test.  If later tests by Denver also show one or both of these mutations, then we can deduce whether they occur before or after Sherwood.

 

With these mutations assigned as shown, it explains all the various genetic distances we have for the three levels of tests. 

 

On the diagram, some arbitrary guesses have been made at how the lines might have split apart.  These can be wrong, but there are certain connections that the dna indicates.  First, we know that all those in Subset A as a group split off from Thomas m Mary Goatly before the #391 mutation that separates the two subsets A and B.  We know that Joe and George are now part of Subset A, and that their line joined subset A before the earliest known ancestor of that subset, Jeremiah, Nancy and Waynes common ancestor.  Next we know that the 4 in subset B must have combined into Gerald’s line somewhere.  Exactly where these lines combine or split is arbitrary otherwise.

 

The ONLY person who has a 37 marker result that does not have a mutation is Nancy.   So we can infer that Nancy PROBABLY has the ancestral haplotype.  If that is the case, then in the future we want to compare everyone to Nancy's haplotype to see which has mutations and where.  In addition, Nancy is the only one who has actually had a SNP test to confirm her haplotype to be R1b1, so Nancy appears to be the "gold standard" for this group.

 

In the current version 2.0 of the diagram, versus the previous version 1.0, Denver J has been added on the left next to John P’s line and the two lines merged into Sherwood Osborne.  Also, John E has just received his 25 marker results and they show a perfect match on 25 markers to Thorstan.  The perfect match on the 25 marker test indicates a fairly close common ancestor, so I have exchanged the position of John E’s line with David M’s line and shown John E and Thorstan sharing a common ancestor before their line merges with Geralds.  Again these are only assumptions which are suggested by the dna results and have to be proven by conventional research and documentation.

 

Several additional people in the group have already ordered the higher level tests, so it will be interesting to see what those tests show, and if they are consistent with this interpretation. 

 

Overall this hypothesis seems very reasonable. The mutations, with the exception of John P's, are spread out fairly evenly as we would expect, and the total number of mutations is minimized which is also reasonable.  We may find more individual mutations when the new tests come back.  The time diagram also  gives some indication of how many missing ancestors must be found and in what lines.

 

 

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