Tyner/Tiner DNA Project

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YDNA tests resulting in a minimum of 25 markers is recommended. A 12 marker test could give you up to 1000 matches and show a variety of surnames, and though related in the past 2000 years, not very helpful in what you will be trying to accomplish.

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Companies that test:

Family Tree DNA

Family Tree DNA is the world leader in Genetic Genealogy. Since its inception in April of 2000, we have been constantly developing the science that enables genealogists around the world to advance their family's research. Family Tree DNA works in association with a scientific advisory board and the University of Arizona Research Labs. The Arizona Research labs are led by Dr. Michael Hammer, one of the world's leading authorities in the field of Genetics.

MtDNA Plus

Both men and women may take this test. It traces the direct maternal line without influence from other lines. This test is for HVR1(16001-16569) and HVR2(00001-00574) of the mitochondrial DNA. The addition of HVR2 to results reduces the number of matches. A panel of twenty-two SNPs is included for backbone haplogroup placement. Results identify the ethnic and geographic origin of the maternal line. The customer receives a certificate and report generally describing the testing process and the meaning of high resolution matches. Results are placed in our database. When another person shows identical results, if both parties have signed the Family Tree DNA Release Form then we will inform them of the match. This is your mother to her mother to her mother, etc.

YDNA37

This is a male specific test. Results identify the ethnic and geographic origin of the paternal line. It includes a balanced panel of thirty-seven Y-chromosome Short Tandem Repeat, STR, markers. This is the recommended test to trace the paternal ancestry of males for genealogy purposes. The additional markers refine the predicted time period in which two individuals are related and eliminate unrelated matches. A perfect match at thirty-seven markers indicates the two individuals share common ancestry in recent times. A haplogroup is determined and backed by our SNP Assurance Program. When another person shows identical results within our database, if both parties have signed the Family Tree DNA Release Form, then we will inform them of the match. The customer will also receive a certificate and report describing the testing process and the meaning of thirty-seven marker matches.

(Currently their Y-DNA 37 marker test is $149.00 for the group rate) 8/2009

Ancestry.com DNA

Discover genetic genealogy and ancient ancestry with a DNA cheek-swab test. Find leads based on DNA testing, surnames, geography and haplogroups. Expand your family tree, find potential genetic cousins, see maps and make connections. Learn about the science, lab work and value of your genes in tracing your personal family history. We explain and help you choose a mitochondrial (mtDNA) or Y-chromosome lineage test in a few easy steps.

Note: You will not receive a percentage breakdown of your ethnicity, race or geographical origin with any Ancestry test.

(Currently their Y-DNA 33 marker test is on sale for $79.00) Order test

Sorenson DNA - DNA Testing (No longer free as of 7/2009)

Now www.GeneTree.com - $149.00 for 33 markers

The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is a non-profit organization dedicated to
building the world's foremost collection of DNA and corresponding genealogical information.
SMGF is making its collection available for searching on this web site. Finding matching DNA
results and pedigrees in the Sorenson Database can help you make new family connections throughout
the world and across generations.
The Foundation is a world leader in DNA research with direct application to genealogy. Its work
complements other studies that focus on the "deep ancestry" of humankind.
We invite you to participate in the SMGF project and search the Sorenson Database. Help grow the genetic family tree, one branch at a time.
Due to the nature of our project, you will not receive your DNA results directly back from SMGF. Your DNA results and genealogy will be added to the Sorenson database, and you can find them by searching for your surname or your DNA sequence and looking at related family trees.

Notice 7/2009:

To fully focus our efforts on these objectives SMGF is changing the way we collect samples. SMGF will no longer collect new samples
directly through our website. Instead, sample collecting will be handled by affiliate organizations, freeing SMGF resources previously
dedicated to sample collecting to support data analysis and innovation. Please click on the links below to learn how to contribute
your DNA to SMGF and other ways you can get involved and support our study.

Become an SMGF participant

SMGF is affiliated with GeneTree (www.genetree.com), another organization that
shares similar goals and objectives. By purchasing a DNA test from GeneTree, you will:

* Receive a personalized DNA report to assist you in your ancestral and genealogical research
* Be able to use this information to access the genetic genealogy applications and tools developed by SMGF
* Have the option to contribute your genetic and genealogical data to SMGF, becoming part of our online database(s) and ongoing
research projects. Additionally, a portion of the DNA test purchase price will be donated to SMGF to support genetic-genealogy research.

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Y-Search - Upload your Y DNA results from any company and search for matches. FREE

Much has happened since Y-DNA testing first became available commercially through Family Tree DNA in February of 2000. Many thousands of people have tested to find family connections as well as family origins. Since then, other labs have entered this market, and the number of tested individuals is growing as the use of DNA is becoming more and more accepted as an important tool for family research, enhancing traditional genealogy research methods.

In order to allow people that have tested with the different companies to make their results available for comparison, Family Tree DNA is offering Ysearch as a free public service. We have added several tools that allow you to compare side-by-side different users - the YsearchCompare - as well as generate a Genetic Distance™ Report , and many other features, including the upload of GEDCOM files.

Who should test

YDNA -

1. The tester is a direct male descendant of the target male. Example: Your mother was a Tyner but she married a Smith, who's surname you now carry. So it is your maternal grandfather (your mother's father) that is/was the Tyner. You will want to test a son of his (your mother's brother) or his son's son (your cousin) or his son's son's son. If your maternal grandfather didn't have a son, and only had your mother and her sisters, look to his father (your great grandfather). Repeat the identification. Did this great grandfather have sons? (your mother's father's brother). If not keep going up until you can identify a male who had sons and follow is son's and his son's sons until you find a living male descendant.

2. If you are a male you can test your YDNA to find out who you are directly related to. You know your father, and grandfather but no further. If you or your brother take the YDNA test, or your father or his brother or his brother's son or grandson, or your grandfather or his brother or his brother's son or grandson, you will receive a result for your YDNA line. You and these particular males have a common male ancestor who carries your surname. Example: You and your brother have the same father, grandfather, great grandfather etc. Your father's brother (your Uncle) also has the same father as your father so he can test (or his son who is your cousin because he would have the same grandfather as you).

3. Your great grandmother was a Tyner. Her father and brothers are Tyners. You need to find a male descendant of her father to take the test. Your Great Uncle or his son's or his son's sons, etc on down.

4. Your great grandfather was a Tyner. He only had daughters. You don't know of any brothers or his father. You are stuck until you find a male that is related to the great grandfather. The only thing that would help here is if you don't know your great grandmother's parents either so haven't been able to search the area she came from for other Tyners, in the event that's where your Tyner is from. A long shot indeed. You can test a female descendant of this great grandfather. Identify his daughters, then identify those daughter's daughters, then identify their daughters until you find one to test their MtDNA. Use a good company who has a lot of results in their databases to get more matches. Once you get the results back you will need to contact those that match and go through their tree to find that common grandmother. As you can see, you have the same MtDNA as your mother and her mother and her mother. The other female tester has the same MtDNA as her mother and her mother, etc. It is hard as you go up the tree as you or she might not have all the maiden names of her females. Look at the locations of her females. Maybe her great grandmother, who married Mr Smith, lived in Mobile Alabama in 1850 but the tester never figured out her maiden name. Your great grandfather Tyner, his wife and daughters also lived there at the same time. This is a good possibility that her female and the wife/daughters of your Tyner are the ones that match. Compare the research. She might now who her female's parents or siblings are or at least where she came from, then you can look in that area for Tyners. Now this isn't proof that the Tyner's you find there are related, but you have more clues than you had before. Clear as mud, right?

5. You have your YDNA results back, on 12 markers, and match hundreds of other males. You need to expand your test to more than 12 markers.

6. You have your YDNA results back, on over 12 markers, and match one or more testers with a different last name. One of two things happened.

1. There was an "event". Look for an adoption, name change or pairing other than with your Tyner male. Ask your oldest relatives for those secrets and rumors. Tell them the DNA shows your line should have the last name of "X". If enough time has passed, they just might tell you. If not, go up the tree one generation at a time and look for a neighbor living near your ancestor, with that last name. Go to FTDNA, search for a project with that last name and compare your YDNA results with their results. If the majority of results in that project match your results within a couple of markers, ask the project manager to pass along your email address to those that match so you can compare their ancestors locations with your ancestors locations. See if they know of any secrets that could pertain to your Tyner. It's possible, especially around the civil war period, that your ancestor's parents died and they were raised by another family member or neighbor taking on their Tyner surname. Sometimes a person didn't want to be found so they changed their name, appearing out of no where. Keep an open mind. Look for records, such as wills where the wife and/or son got $1 but the rest of the children got much more, basterdly bonds, guardianship records, etc.

2. You and the other person's common ancestor didn't take the same surname, such as in the old days when they were Owen ap Morris ap Moore and, because they had to choose a last name, one chose Owen, one Morris and one Moore. (If your results say your common ancestor was over 7 generations ago, this is a good possibility)

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