John STONE and Agnes
Husband John STONE
Born: 1528 - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Christened: - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Died: 1596-1597 - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Buried: Abt 1579 - Barton, St David, Somerset England, Barton Cemetery
Father: Mr STONE (Abt 1505- ) Mother: Mrs STONE (Abt 1506- )
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Agnes Mrs STONE (Abt 1529- ) - Abt 1556 - Barton, St. David, Somerset, England
Other Spouse: Agnes ( - )
Other Spouse: Agnes ( - )
Wife Agnes
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
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Roger Frost and Agnes
Husband Roger FROST
Born: Bef 1523 - Glemsford, Suffolk, England Christened: Died: - Glemsford, Suffolk, England Buried: 4 Apr 1580 - Glemsford, Suffolk, England
Father: William FROST (1495-Bef 1549) Mother: Philippa (1508-1558)
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Agnes ( -1558)
Other Spouse: Katherine ( - )
Other Spouse: Katherine ( - )
Wife Agnes
Born: Christened: Died: Buried: 10 Feb 1558-10 Feb 1559 - Glemsford, Suffolk, England
Children
General Notes (Husband)
He appears on the 1568 subsidy list for Glemsford as taxed 5s. 4d on "64 in landes". (Suffolk Green Books, No. XII
His will, which was proved in the court of the Archdeaconry of Sudbury on 12 April 1580, is abstracted below.
Roger Frost of "Glemisford", co Suff., husbandman. 19 March 1579/80. Sick in body. To be buried "amonge my auncestors & kinred in the churcheyard of Glemisford". To wife Katheryne all the messuage where I now dwell and lands in Glemsford which I now occupyy, until son John reaches age of 21, then wife Katheryne "in recompense for her dower" and son John shall hold messuage, lands, & tememetns in common during life of Katherine. T wife Katheryne use of all my household stuff (etc) with cattel on said grounds except ten ewes to son John until he is 21, at which time household stuff and cattel to be held in common by wife Katheryn adn son John for her life. After her death, teh same wholly to John. To Thomas Gardyner of Glemsford, clothier, all my meadow in Glesford called Turpytts otherwise Partable meadow, in consideration of 658 10s. in hand, of which brotehr John Frost "the elder" shall have 624 10s. to the use of Raffe my son. Said Raffe to be placed in service; said money to be "put fourth" with him and repaid to him at age 21 "or neare therabouts". If Raffe die before 21, the money to go "in lyke maner" to my sons Edward & Henrye; if either die before 21, the whole to the survivor. To sons Edward and Henry one close of freehould land and pasture called new pasture, except a piece of meadow at north end. Wife Katheryne and son John shall have use of land until Henry reaches 21, paying yearly to Edward and Henry 20s., the said rent to be received by Thomas Gardener & my brother John Frost. To said Edward & Henry land in "Oxenfilde" on the south side of land of George Collingwood when Henry reaches 21; in the meantime to wife Katheryne and son John. To grandchild & godson Roger Mason 1/2 acre in Milfielde in Glesford on north syde of Cocks peace" at age of 21; John Mason his father and Anne his wife to have land until then. To Anne Mason a brass pot "which was her grandmother Everard", and one seam of barley. To her daughter Anne Mason 20 s. at age of 21. To my other two daughrters Katheryne and Alyce b6 13s 4d each at the age of 21, and to each 1 silver spoon. To my sister Shasfilde and my sister Ryther one combe of barley malt each. To my servants John Ryther and Priscilla Howe one seam of barley each. Residue to wife Katheryneand eldest son John Frost, who are appointed executors. Wife Katheryn to enter into bonds for 100 marks that she not recover dower and keep houses in repair until son John shall reach 21 and "in the meane season shall as muche as in hyr ys brynge upp my children excepte the said Raffe (who was to be put out to service) with convenient and cessarye meate dryinke and Apparell..." If she refuse to enter into bonds, all given to her [in will] shall be boid, and son John shall be sole executor. Supervosors, "my verye fryends" Thomas Gardner and said John frost "thelder my Brother" to receive 10 s each "for their paynes". Witnesses: Mathew Cratherd, John Strutt, Thomas Fytche & otehrs
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Roger HEWES and Agnes
Husband Roger HEWES
Born: Abt 1554 - England Christened: Died: Buried: 20 Oct 1611 - Bocking, Essex, EnglandMarriage: - , England
Wife Agnes
Born: Abt 1558 - England Christened: Died: Buried: 26 Jul 1608 - Bocking, Essex, England
Children
1 M John HEWES
Born: 9 Jun 1583 - Royston, Hertfordshire, England Christened: 9 Jun 1583 - Bocking, Essex, England Died: Aug 1621 - Royston, Hertfordshire, England Buried:Spouse: Mary FOOTE (Abt 1588-1685) Marr: 14 Feb 1602 - Shalford, Essex, England
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John STONE and Agnes
Husband John STONE
Born: 1528 - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Christened: - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Died: 1596-1597 - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Buried: Abt 1579 - Barton, St David, Somerset England, Barton Cemetery
Father: Mr STONE (Abt 1505- ) Mother: Mrs STONE (Abt 1506- )
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Agnes Mrs STONE (Abt 1529- ) - Abt 1556 - Barton, St. David, Somerset, England
Other Spouse: Agnes ( - )
Other Spouse: Agnes ( - )
Wife Agnes
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
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John STONE and Agnes
Husband John STONE
Born: 1528 - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Christened: - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Died: 1596-1597 - Barton, St David, Somerset, England Buried: Abt 1579 - Barton, St David, Somerset England, Barton Cemetery
Father: Mr STONE (Abt 1505- ) Mother: Mrs STONE (Abt 1506- )
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Agnes Mrs STONE (Abt 1529- ) - Abt 1556 - Barton, St. David, Somerset, England
Other Spouse: Agnes ( - )
Other Spouse: Agnes ( - )
Wife Agnes
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
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Edward Heath and Alice
Husband Edward HEATH
Born: Abt 1525 - of Little Amwell, Ware, Hertfordshire, England Christened: Died: Buried: 8 Mar 1592-8 Mar 1593 - Ware, Hertfordshire, England
Father: Robert HEATH ( - ) Mother:
Marriage: Abt 1550
Wife Alice
Born: Christened: Died: Buried: 24 Dec 1593 - Ware, Hertfordshire, England
Children
1 M William HEATH
Born: Abt 1550-1555 - Little Amwell, Ware, Hertfordshire, England Christened: Died: Buried: 7 Jan 1624-7 Jan 1625Spouse: Agnes CHENEY (Abt 1560- ) Marr: 9 Jun 1580 - Waltham Abbey, Essex, England
2 F Margaret HEATH
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
3 M Robert HEATH
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
4 F Joan HEATH
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
5 F Elizabeth HEATH
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
6 M Thomas HEATH
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Agnes WOODBURNE ( - ) Marr: 29 Nov 1599 - Ware, Hertfordshire, England
7 M James HEATH
Born: Christened: 9 Mar 1560-9 Mar 1561 - Ware, Hertfordshire, England Died: Buried: 21 Sep 1562 - Ware, Hertfordshire, England
8 M John HEATH
Born: Christened: 28 Feb 1563-28 Feb 1564 - Great Amwell, Hertfordshire, England Died: Buried:
9 F Ellen HEATH
Born: Christened: 9 Jul 1565 - Ware, Hertfordshire, England Died: Buried:
10 F Katherine HEATH
Born: Christened: 20 Aug 1568 - Ware, Hertfordshire, England Died: Buried:
11 M Richard HEATH
Born: Christened: 20 Aug 1568 - Ware, Hertfordshire, England Died: Buried:
12 F Alice HEATH
Born: Christened: Died: Buried: 7 Jun 1571 - Great Amwell, Hertfordshire, England
General Notes (Husband)
Collarmaker in Little Amwell in the parish of Ware.
In his will, dated 6 march 1592/3 and proved 23 March 1592/3, witnessed by Wilm Nycoil and George Bearstolke (Essex Record Office, Chelmsford), Edward Heath of Ware... "Coilermaker sycke in bodie", asked to be buried in the churchyard of Ware and made bequests as follows:
...unto Alyce my wyff xi 5 a yere duryng her lyff. And her dwellyng in my howse, that ys to saye the chamber that she nowe useth to lie yn withall moveables of household stuff nowe thereyn, the kytchen & the Buttrye, with ffree egresse ingresse & regresse into the same & easyaments in the basksyde duryng her naturall lyff/ And A table with a ffourme in the hall/ Provided, alwayes and my wyll ys that two of my daugthers Elen & Kateryn shall have all the aforeseid houshold Stuff after my wyffs decesase equallie to be divided betwene them by the Disrecon of my sonn Willm/... to my said two daughters Elen & Kateryn xxs a pece to be payd to them At the daye of their Maryage/ .. to Johan my daughter xj a viij d to be payd to her within one yere after my decease .. to eyther of her children John & Mararett vj s viij of a pece. At their Age of xv yeres... to Thomas my sonn xi s whereof xx s to be payd within one yere after my decease And the other xx s within the next yere then next ffolowyng... to my sonn John xx s to be payd hym within the next yere then next fflolowyng ... to my daughter Margaretts children now Alysve v s a pece to be payd At their Age of xv yeres after my decease... to my sonn Wilm all that my nowe dwelling house wthall the edifice yards gardens wthall the Appurtenances thereunto belongyng scituat in lytle Amwell in the countie of Herf to hym & his heyres for ever. And all the residue of my goods & movebales unbequeathed ... to my sonne Wilm his children nowe Alve vj s viij of Apece At their Age of xjiij yeres/ All wch severall somes of money to be payd by my sonn Willm whom I do ordeyene & make my sole Executor of this my last Wyll & Testament. (The following bequest is written on the left margin, evidently intended to be part of the main body of the will:) Itm I geve unto my sonn Robt xl s whereof xx s wthin one yere after my decease adn the other xx s within the yere then ffolowyng. And all my apparell/ Itm I geve unto everie of my sonn Robert his children v s A pece to be payd to them at the Age of xv Age/ Md that Robt his gyft was entred befroe the ensealng herof.
Elder Isaac Heath and brother William Heath were joined in New England by various relatives. These included their brother in law John Johnson of Roxbury, widower of their sister Mary Heath, and their nephew and niece, Edward Morris of Roxbury, and Elizabeth (Morris)Cartwright of Boston.
Edward Morris and Elizabetn (Morris)Cartwright may have taken another sibling, Isaac Morris, aged 9, who was on the opewell in 1635 in the company of John and arbara Ruggles of Nazing, Essex, probably same as Isaac Morrison baptized at Great Amwell 3 Feb 1625/6. He may have died young as no further record of him.
General Notes for Child William HEATH
Douglas Richardson, The Heath Connection, English origins of Isaac and William Heath of Roxburgy, Massachusetts, John Johnson, Edward Morris, and Eizabeth (Morris) Cartwright. NEHGR, 2992, 271-278: "American genealogists have been aware for some time that hte immigrant John Johnson (ca 1590-1659) of Salem and Roxbury, Massachusetts, was related in some way to Elder Isaac and William Heath of Roxbury, and that the Heaths were also kin somehow to the immigrant, Edward Morris, and to Morris's sister, Elizabeth (Morris) Cartwright. Such kinship is proved by a series of Johnson, Heath and Morris Wills, reviewed by Reay G. Hurlburt in Capt Johnson Nd his wife, Margery of Roxbury - Who were They?" in TAG, 22 (1945-6); 47-49.
John Johnson in his will proved in 1659 called Ellder Isaac Heath his loving brother, and named him overseer in his will. Elder Isaac Heath's will dated 10- Jan 1660/1 referred to three knfolk; cousin Martha Brand, whose maiden name was known to be Heath, kinswoman Mary Mory *John Johnson's daughter(, and kinsman Edward Morris. Isaac Heath's widow Elizabeth in her will proved in 1664 naemd 'my cousin Capt Johnson. Isaac Heath's widow Elizabeth in her will dated 26 Sep 1673, named her cousin Isaac Johnson, cousin, Pepper (a Johnson son in law), cousin Bowen, cousin Bartholomew, and cousin Nathaniel Johnson's wife. All of these relatives can be identified as children and grandildren of the immigrant John Johnson.
It looked as though John Johnson was married to a sister of Elder Isaac and William Heath, adn that Edward Morris and his sister Elizabeth were the nephew and niece of Johnson's wife and of the Heath brothers.
In 1978 Peter Walne, County Archivist of Hertfordshire, published evidence which proved that the immigrant Heath brotehrs had their origins in hte adjacent parishes of Ware and Great Amwell (NEHGR, 132 [ 1978]: 20-21. He did not mention Johnson or Morris.
Richardson used Family History Library films of parish registers of Ware and Great Amwell to search for all entries for Johnson, Heath and Morris. John Johnson's wife and the mother of Edward Morris and his sster were Heath's. Further, the Heath brothers were first cousins to Martha Heath, wife of George Brand of Roxbury.
The family tree I have put together here is from these articles.
1992 NEHGS article says that the name of William's wife has not been found. However, apparently her father and uncle named her in their wills.
That William and not either of his brothers Robert or John, was the father of the next generation, is strongly suggested by the fact that he inherited his father's house there, to the exclusion of his brothers. He was probably established there already. The Ware parish registers do not name the father of children baptized there between 1581 and 1604, but the spacing of baptism suggests that there was only one Heath family having children in this period of time. Beginning 8n 1604, the registers include the father's name, and that year William's son Thomas was baptized. This was probably his last child. No further children for this William appear in the registers of Ware or Great Amwell.
From Douglas Richard, update:
New evidence on the Heath line has confirmed that William Heath, Sr., of Ware was the father of the immigrants Isaac and William. An inquisition taken at Ware, Hertfordshire, 20 June 1628, mentions an earlier indenture dated 20 March 1612/13 where by Humphrey Spenser of Ware, gentleman, citizen, and haberdasher of London, and John Thorowgood of Ware, yeoman, acting as trustees, conveyed various properties to a large number of inhabitants of Ware, among them William Heath and Isaac his son .
General Notes for Child Margaret HEATH
Married and had children. She may be the Margaret Heth who m in the adjacent parish of All Saints and St. John, Hertford, Hers., 26 Nov 1571, John Norris. She d. probably before 6 March 1592/3 when her father in his will left a bequest to her unnamed children.
General Notes for Child Robert HEATH
Living 6 Mar 1692/3, when his father made his will. He may be the Robert Heath "Dwelling with Thomas Heath at Ware end" who was buried at Great Amwell, Herts., 6 Oct 1603. He evidently had children, who are mentioned but not named in his father's will.
General Notes for Child Joan HEATH
livng 6 Mar 1692/3 wehn she was named in her father's will, m and had children. No further information.
General Notes for Child Elizabeth HEATH
Living 6 Mar 1592/3 when she was named in her father's will; married at Ware 3 Dec 1582, John King, possibly the man of that name buried there 17 May 1593. Children, bp at Grat Amwell, named in grandfather's will, surname King: 1. Margaret, bp 18 Sept 1583, m at Great Amwell, 29 Dec 1607, William Curtice. 2 John bapt 24 July 1586.
General Notes for Child Thomas HEATH
Probalby the Thomas Heath buried at Ware 19 Cot 1616; m there, Nov 29, 1599, Agnes Woodburne. He was named in his father's will 6 Mar 1592, /3, apparently not yet married.
General Notes for Child Ellen HEATH
Living, unmarried, 6 Mar 1592/3 wehn her father named her in his will. She may be the Elinour Heath buried at Ware 16 May 1604, or the Hellen Heath buried there 10 Jul 1626; it is less likely that she was the Helene Heath who m there, 29 March 1608, Richard Archer.
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Nicholas Godbold and Alice
Husband Nicholas GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1590 - Dennington, Suffolk, England Christened: Died: 1586 Buried:
Father: Roger GODBOLD (Abt 1473-1535) Mother: Margery ( - )
Marriage: 21 Jul 1562 - Badingham, Suffolk, England
Other Spouse: Margaret ROBSON ( - ) - 19 Apr 1582 - Gisleham, Suffolk, England
Wife Alice
Born: Christened: Died: Buried: 21 Jul 1562 - Badingham, Suffolk, England
Children
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Robert Clarke and Alice
Husband Robert CLARKE
Born: Abt 1490 - Banham, Norfolk, England Christened: Died: 1550 - Banham, Norfolk, England Buried:Marriage:
Wife Alice
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 M Rowland CLARKE
Born: Bef 1530 Christened: Died: Buried: 5 Mar 1579-5 Mar 1580 - Banham, Norfolk, EnglandSpouse: Margaret MICKLEWOOD ( -1593)
2 F Johanne CLARKE
Born: Abt 1520 Christened: Died: After 1582 Buried:Spouse: Richard HUNTING ( -1581) Marr: Bef 1540
3 F Margaret CLARKE
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Thomas ROUSE ( - )
4 F Katherine CLARKE
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
5 M Thomas CLARKE
Born: Christened: Died: 1559-1560 Buried:Spouse: Martha MICKEWOODE ( - )
General Notes (Husband)
His will:
... for the sustentation of the poore... xijd ... to Thomas Clarke my sonne ... my free tenement sometyme Jhon Clarke my ffather with all the land fre & bonde that to the said tenemente belonge except twoo acers & a half ..hooke upon thys conficion that the said Thomas shall paye untio Katherine my daughter 33s 4d at the daye of her marriage... to Rowlande my son, twoo acres...a half of land free lyeinge in teh hooke ... to the saide Rowlande my sonne xl acres & a half and a half a rode of lande & medowe bonde wt a tenetmente called Silverns in westgate the whyche I purcheased of John Plowman to hold to the sayde Rowlande & to his heyres for ever after the decease of Alyce my wyffe... to Alyce my wyffe my close that I purcheased of Richarde Leye terme of her lyef/ ... to Rowlande my son half an acre of land bonde, lyeing at the... plane ende in the valeye & one rode & half e lyeing in the same fairlonge and abbutt upon the lande of John Clarke towards the sowthe... to Thomas Clarke my son one roode & a half of lande lyeing in Swete hyll medowe & half an acre lyeinge in the same medowe ... I wyll yf I chance to dye seised in the twoo acres & a half of free ladne lyeing in the hooke, that Thomas my sonn ... small bequests to a number of people.
General Notes for Child Rowland CLARKE
Rowland's name appears with those of other Bantham men on a muster roll dated 1574 with "Billes and Skulles", denoting the halberd and metal skullcap of the period.
His will:
unto the poore people at Banham aforesaid 6s 8d to be parted amonste them wheare most nede is .. I will that Margaret my wife shall have the occupacion and profits of all my lands and tenements bothe free adn bonde lyinge and beinge in Banham aforesaide for the terme of foure years next after and from the feast of Saint Michaell the archangell next adn (all his lands in Benham) afer my decease upon these condtions that the said Margaret my wife within tenne dais next after my decease shall make a lawfull surrender... to teh use of Clement Clarke my sonne... I will that William and Edward my sonnes shalle keepe at Scooel in Banham or Buckenham ore anye other towne near Banham aforesaid..
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Anthony FISHER and Alice
Husband Anthony FISHER
Born: Christened: 23 Apr 1591 - Syleham, Suffolk, England Died: 18 Apr 1671 - Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts Buried:
Father: Anthony FISHER (1558-1640) Mother: Mary FISKE (Abt 1561-1650)
Marriage: Abt 1615 - England
Other Spouse: Isabelle BRECK (RIGBY) ( -1673) - 14 Sep 1663 - Dorchester, Massachusetts
Wife Alice
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 F Lydia FISHER
Born: Christened: 4 Mar 1620-4 Mar 1621 - Syleham, Suffolk, England Died: 29 Jan 1690-29 Jan 1691 - Sherborne, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Daniel MORSE (1613-Bef 1688) Marr: Bef 1636 - , England
2 M John FISHER
Born: 16 Jun 1616 - Syleham, Suffolk, England Christened: Died: 15 Sep 1637 - Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Mary ( - )
3 M DAniel FISHER
Born: Christened: 4 Jun 1618 - Syleham, Suffolk, England Died: 8 Oct 1683 - Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Abigail MARRIOTT (1623-1683) Marr: 17 Nov 1641 - Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
4 F Leah FISHER
Born: Christened: 27 Jan 1621-27 Jan 1622 - Syleham, Suffolk, England Died: Buried:
5 M Anthony FISHER
Born: Christened: 7 Aug 1623 - Syleham, Suffolk, England Died: 13 Feb 1669-13 Feb 1670 - Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Joanna FAXON ( -1694) Marr: 7 Sep 1647 - Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
6 M Nathaniel FISHER
Born: Christened: 22 Oct 1626 - Denton, Norfolk, England Died: 23 May 1676 - Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Esther HUNTING (1631-1677) Marr: 26 Dec 1649 - Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
7 M Cornelius FISHER
Born: Christened: 16 Aug 1629 - Denton, Norfolk, England Died: 2 Jun 1699 - Wrentham, Norfolk, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Leah HEATON ( -1664) Marr: 22 Feb 1652-22 Feb 1653 - Dedham, Norfolk, MassachusettsSpouse: Sarah EVERETT (1644-1674) Marr: 25 Aug 1665 - Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
General Notes (Husband)
Candler said he went with his family to New England.
From Savage:
ANTHONY, Dorchester, call. sen. freem. 1645, was selectman 1646; d. 1671, in his 80th yr. Says Blake. He had m. 14 Nov. 1663, as sec. w. Isabel, w. of Edward Breck. His inv. of 12 May 1671 was ret. by s. Daniel and Nathaniel, and in July foll. they, with Cornelius, sis. Joanna, wid. of his s. Anthony and Daniel Morse, wh. m. Lydia, ano. sis., all b. in Eng., div. the est.
ANTHONY, Dedham 1637, b. at Syleham, near Eye in Co. Suff. on the border of Norf. eldest son of the preced. ar. co. 1644, freem. perhaps 1646, d. 13 Feb. 1670. In his inv. taken 7 Apr. 1670, he is call. late of Dorchester, yet perhaps he had never rem. from Dedham, bef. some recent day. He m. 7 Sept. 1647, Joanna Faxon, prob. sis. of Richard, had Mehitable, b. 27 June 1648; Josiah, 1 May 1654; Sarah, 27 Oct. 1658; and Elizabeth 18 Sept. 1669. The wid. long surv. and d. 16 Oct. 1694. It is not easy to discrimin. betw. these two Anthonies, both call. late of Dorchester, where ea. had lds. d. so near in time, or to resolve wh. was freem. in 1645, wh. in 1646.
From http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sunnyann/fisher.html by P. Davidson Peters - he has the Anthony Fisher's mixed up, and I do not know if the Fiske's are really of aristocratic descent.
Anthony Fisher was at syleham until atleast 1623. In Denton, Norfolk, about six miles from Syleham, in 1626 and 1629, the baptisms of two children of Anthony and alice were ercorded. In March, 1636, according to the will of his brother John, he was still living in Denton. anthony arrived in New England probably in 1637. First record of him in the colonies is 18 Jul 1637, when he appears on a list of those accepted by the town authorities in Dedham.
Anthony Fisher, son of Anthony and Mary Ann (Fiske), had been baptized in Syleham, county of Suffolk, England in April of 1591. In 1637 Anthony Fisher, his wife Mary (Buckingham), and their children Anthony, Cornelius, Nathaniel, Daniel, Lydia, and John came to Boston, departing most likely from Yarmouth in the ship Rose, and arrived in the last week of June. They settled in Dedham and subscribed to its covenant on July 18th of that year.
Mary Ann (Fiske) had descended from an ancient family who, until a recent period, had its seat and manorial lands in Laxfield, in the county of Suffolk, England. Lord Symond Fiske, the grandson of Daniel, was Lord of the Manor of Standhaugh, parish of Laxfield, and had lived during the reign of Henry IV and VI (1399-1422). His eldest son William had lived during the reign of Henry VI, Richard III, and Henry VII, and died about 1504. His grandson Robert had fled England with his family during the religious persecution, returned, and later married Sybil Gould who had been in great danger as had her sister Isabell Gould, who had been held in the Castle Norwich. Had Sybil's brothers not had such powerful influence in the county, it is believed by Sybil might not have escaped death.
The emigrant Anthony Fisher was said to have had a proud and haughty nature so that although his wife Mary (Buckingham) had joined the Dedham Church in March of 1642, he was not comfortably accepted until some time later. He was, however, made freeman in May of 1645 and had been chosen Selectman to act in town affairs in Dedham between the year 1646 and 1647, two years later became Deputy to the General Court, and in 1660 was County Commissioner. When he died in his 80th year on April 18th of 1671 in Dorchester it was said of him that he was "an Englishman of strong and positive character, and that for the times, he had liberal means and was considered favorable by his fellow-settlers and citizens." He and Mary's children were Anthony, Cornelius, Nathaniel, Daniel, Lydia, and John Fisher.
General Notes for Child Lydia FISHER
daughter of Anthony and Mary Fisher, according to Samuel Morse Genealogy.
I found an Anthony b 1558 and Mary b 1560 as parents for her.
I have a later Anthony son of Anthony and Mary as her parents.
Parents were misidentified in Morse genealogy. From http://www.obliquity.com/family/records/fisxxx01.html by David Harper and Lynne Marie Stockman, based on
SOURCES
Parish records (CRO)
Heigham by Norwich parish records NRO MF/PR 4
St. Michael at Thorn (Norwich) archdeacon's transcripts NRO MF/RO 159/3
Thorpe Abbotts parish records NRO PD 277/1-2
Probated wills in Norfolk NRO MF 68 - Andrewes (152)
Probated wills in Norfolk NRO MF 410 - Spendlove (277)
Secondary
W.A. Copinger, 1909. The Manors of Suffolk, The Hundreds of Hoxne, Lockford, and Loes, Volume 4, Taylor, Garnett, Evans, & Co., Ltd., Manchester
William Richard Cutter, 1908. Genealogical and Personal Memoirs, Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York
Charles Henry Pope, 1900. The Pioneers of Massachusetts, Charles Henry Pope, Boston
John Venn & J.A. Venn, 1922. Alumni Cantabrigiensis: Part I. From the Earliest Times to 1751, Volume II: Dabbs-Juxton, Cambridge University Press (copy number 43 out of 500)
The Fisher Fallacies
The genealogy of Anthony Fisher and his descendants is a good case study of the way in which information can be misinterpreted, incorrectly copied and even creatively embellished to produce a plethora of contradictory, inaccurate and confusing versions of the same basic facts.
Anthony Fisher was one of the earliest settlers in North America, and as a result, many Americans can trace their family tree back to him. The rapid growth in the use of personal computers and the web as tools for genealogical research has enabled many hundreds of Fisher descendants to trace their lineage back to Anthony Fisher.
Unfortunately, many of the most commonly-used sources of genealogical data contain information that is inconsistent, ambiguous or just plain wrong. Some common errors include
Misunderstanding the geography of England, so that towns and villages are placed in counties hundreds of miles from their true locations, and county names are confused with the names of towns.
Attempting to "correct" dates taken from original records prior to September 1752, in an effort to force them to fit the modern calendar. This often leads to several versions of the baptismal record for the same individual, with dates that differ by 11 days or 22 days or a single year or a year plus 11 days.
Confusion between two people of the same name living in the same (or a neighbouring) village. These are often cousins who were named after a shared grandparent, or given a name that was popular within that family.
Confusion caused by different spellings of the same name, which was very common even as late as the early 19th century.
Assuming that a connection exists between two people, when there is no documentary evidence to support it. This sometimes happens when a researcher wishes to establish a link to a notable person.
At Obliquity, we are fortunate to have direct access to the English county record offices which house the primary sources of genealogical information for that period: the parish records of births, marriages and deaths.
Our information on the Fisher family is taken from these primary sources and is as accurate as we can make it, taking into account the difficulties of translating the fading and often illegible handwriting in centuries-old parish record books.
The Players
Anthony Fisher I
Baptised 1 February 1558/59 in Stradbroke, Suffolk
Buried 11 April 1640 in Syleham, Suffolk
Married 16 October 1586 in Fressingfield, Suffolk, to Mary Fiske
Joshua Fisher
Baptised 24 March 1587/88 in Fressingfield, Suffolk
Buried 1674 in Massachusetts
Married to Elizabeth and then to Anne Orsor
Mary Fisher
Baptised 28 November 1589 in Syleham, Suffolk
Married 25 April 1626 in Dennington, Suffolk, to Roger Briggs
Anthony Fisher II
Baptised 23 April 1591 in Syleham, Suffolk
Buried 1671 in Massachusetts
Married to Alice (in England) and then to Isabel (in Massachusetts)
The following children were born to Anthony and Alice in England:
John Fisher
Daniel Fisher
Lydia Fisher
Leah Fisher
Anthony Fisher
Nathaniel Fisher
Cornelius Fisher
Amos Fisher
Baptised 26 April 1594 in Fressingfield, Suffolk
Married 24 September 1633 in Syleham, Suffolk, to Anne Norris
Martha Fisher
Baptised 15 January 1595/96 in Fressingfield, Suffolk
Buried 31 March 1659 in Syleham, Suffolk
Married (1637 in Ipswich, Suffolk?) to John Buckenham
John Fisher
Baptised 15 September 1597 in Syleham, Suffolk
Buried 4 September 1636 in Syleham, Suffolk
Married to Mary
Cornelius Fisher
Baptised 19 August 1599 in Syleham, Suffolk
Died 1641 in East Bergholt, Suffolk
Married 22 September 1630 in Norwich, Norfolk, to Elizabeth Thaxter
The People
Agnes Fisher
She is often omitted from the Fisher genealogy but she does appear in the baptismal and burial records of Stradbroke as a sister of Anthony Fisher I.
Alice versus Mary Bockenham/Buckenham/Buckingham
What was the name of Anthony Fisher II's wife? Mary is usually quoted, apparently based on church records in Massachusetts. However, her name appears as Alice in the baptismal records of her last two children, Nathaniel and Cornelius. Perhaps the surname of Buckenham (in various spellings) has been confused with the married name of her sister-in-law, Martha Buckenham nee Fisher.
Which Anthony Fisher?
Occasionally there is confusion over whose children are whose. The families of Anthony Fisher I and his son Anthony Fisher II are sometimes lumped together in one large family
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Hester Fisher
She is often omitted from the Fisher genealogy but she does appear in the burial records of Syleham as a daughter of Anthony Fisher I.
The "twins" Joshua and Mary Fisher
Joshua Fisher and his sister Mary were baptised two years apart in two different parishes. If they had been twins, it is much more likely that they would have been baptised together.
Leah Fisher
She is often omitted from the Fisher genealogy but she does appear in the baptismal records of Syleham as a daughter of Anthony Fisher II.
Lord of the Manor of Syleham
Some sources give one of the Anthony Fishers as "Lord of the Manor of Syleham." There were, in fact, three manors associated with Syleham. The Manor of Syleham Comitis has existed since Saxon times and the Manor of Esham dates back to at least 1285. The third manor, which no longer exists, was variously called the Manor of Syleham, Monk's Hall, Tylney's Hall, or Syleham Hall. Monk's Hall is now a private home and we were very privileged to be invited inside by the owners when we visited Syleham in early 1997. There is absolutely no evidence, however, that Anthony Fisher or any other member of the Fisher family was lord of any of these manors. Is this an example of delusions of grandeur by an ever-hopeful descendent?
Various spellings
Bridges versus Brigges versus Briggs.
Bockenham versus Buckenham versus Buckingham.
Marie versus Mary.
The Places
Custrichhall, Weeley, Essex
This location (in various spellings) often appears as the birth or baptismal place of various members of the Fisher clan, all because Amos Fisher lived here after his marriage in 1633.
East Bergholt, Suffolk
The same problem arises with East Bergholt. Cornelius Fisher, the brother of the aforesaid Amos, worked as a clerk (clergyman) here until his death in 1641.
Syleham, Weymouth, Suffolk
Syleham, Suffolk, Kent
Weymouth, Suffolk
These particular combinations of place names are often found in various sources on the web and elsewhere. Here is a small lesson in English geography:
Syleham is a village in Suffolk.
Suffolk is a county in the east of England.
Weymouth is a town in Dorset.
Dorset is a county in the southwest of England.
Kent is a county in the southeast of England.
The proper combination is Syleham, Suffolk, England. Perhaps Weymouth has been confused with the East Anglian port town of Yarmouth (now called Great Yarmouth) from which it is thought that Anthony Fisher II departed England. Where Kent comes in is anybody's guess.
Pre-1637 events in Massachusetts
The Anthony Fisher II family did not arrive in America until 1637 so none of the children (John, Daniel, Lydia, Leah, Anthony, Nathaniel, Cornelius) could have been born there.
Various spellings
Custrichhall versus Custrich Hall versus Custridge Hall.
Weeley versus Wesley.
I have three Barber/ Barbour families, clearly related, clearly a fascinating tale.
Richard Barber, b 1565 Stradbroke, Suffolk, England
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E. Barber b 1597 m Henry Brock
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Mary m 1639, Stradbroke, Henry Phillips
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Elizabeth m Robert Gowing
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Priscilla m William Robbins, descendant married into the Morse line down the line.
Nicholas Barbor b bef 1566, Laxfield area, Suffolk, England
m Sibilla Gold, persecuted for Protestantism, remarried
Robert Fiske, persecuted for Protestantism.
Sibilla's sister Isabel Gold, also persecuted for Protestantism, married someone named Phillips.
Sibilla Gold and Robert Fiske had Anthony Fisher., of Laxfield, Suffolk, who went to Dedham, Massachusetts; a daughther married Daniel Morse, from Dedham, Suffolk, England, to Dedham, Massachusetts.
George Barbour, born to Thomas Barbour on 28 Dec 1613 in Fressingham, Suffolk, went to Dedham Massachusetts, married first Elizabeth Clark, a daughter married Jonathan Morse, son of Daniel Morse above from Suffolk to Dedham Massachusetts. George Barbour married second JOanna Faxon, who was previously married to Anthony Fisher, son of Anthony Fisher above.
All of these people were founders of Dedham Massachusetts, even though only some of them are known to have travelled to Massachusetts and clearly they arrived there on separate UFO's (that on occasion actually disembarked in WAtertown); and noone has noticed that they knew each other well in England, nor has anyone noticed that history of religious persecution ties some of them together.
General Notes for Child John FISHER
English ancestry of Joshua and Anthony Fisher (NEHGR 1997) doesn't mention a wife for him. He was only 21 when he died.
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Edward Bigge and Alice
Husband Edward BIGGE
Born: Abt 1480 Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Alice
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 M Robert BIGGE
Born: 1505 - benenden, Kent, England Christened: Died: 2 Jan 1548 - benenden, Kent, England Buried:Spouse: Elizabeth ( - ) Marr: Abt 1528
General Notes for Child Robert BIGGE
Robert was born Bef. 1500 in Beneden, Kent, England and died on January 13, 1546/47 in Benenden, Kent, England. He is buried in St. George the Martyr of Benenden, Kent, England. He married Elizabeth in Benenden, Kent, England in ca. 1530. She was born Abt. 1510 in Benenden, Kent, England and died in Benenden, Kent, England.
Robert's estate was probated June 2, 1548 in Archdeacon Court, Canterbury, Kent, England.(54) Born during the reign of the first Tudor, King Henry VII, he lived through all of the reign of Henry VIII, and died under the boy king, Edward VI.
The identification of this Robert with the son of Edward Bigge is not proven, except by coincidence of place and age. His will was extracted by Elizabeth French (NEHGR, Jan. 1912): "The Will of Robert Bigge of Benenden, 13 January 1547/8. To be buried in the churchyard of the parish church of St. George the Martyr of Benenden. Alms to be distributed at the day of my burial. To wife Elizabeth, if she continue unmarried, all my stuff and household implements; if she marry again, half my stuff and household implements to my daughters, to be equally divided at age eighteen or day of marriage. To my wife all my corn and sundry livestock. To my son Walter two steers. To my sons Richarde and Thomas a heifer each at eighteen, and to my son John two steers at that age. All my cattle, wheat growing, and other moveables unbequeathed to be sold by my executrix and the money employed to pay my debts. I give to my wife Elizabeth my lease of churchfield, and make her executrix and William Fowle of Benenden overseer. My wife to redeem two pieces of land at Walkhurst, mortgaged to John Moyse of Byddenden for 10 pounds, and also to pay to Elizabeth Vsborne 40 pounds for which I stand bound.
"My last will regarding the disposition of all my lands and tenements. I will to Elizabeth my wife for life my messuage and garden at Benenden forstall and four pieces of land at Walkhurst, she releasing all her right of dowry in all my lands. The messuage and garden at Benenden forstall to go to my son John and his heirs at my wife's decease. To my son Richard and his heirs at my wife's decease four pieces of land at Walkhurst. My executrix to take the profits of all my other lands and tenements until they amount to 40 pounds, to be paid to Elizabeth, Dorothe, Elionor, and Alyce, my daughters, to each 10 pounds at day of marriage or age of twenty years. If any die before such day or age, reversion to the survivors, to be equally divided. After the said 40 pounds be levied I give to my son Thomas and his heirs forever my messuage and lands at the lane of Rolvenden and my half of a meadow called dukes mede in Tentwarden [Tenterden], of which Lawrence Day holds the other half, and a piece of marsh land at Frencham containing ten acres, my executrix to have the said lands until son Thomas come to the age of twenty-two. After the said 40 pounds be levied, to son Walter and his heirs forever seven pieces of land called the sixe acres, Wadyfeld, gardeyn of begtylte, the porteke, the upper shurfeld, the Longfelde, and the nether shurfeld, lying upon the den of Begtilte in Benenden, he to pay to my son Richard 20s. a year during the life of my wife and after he enter into the said land. After the said 40 pounds be levied, I give to son John and his heirs a piece of land called the field about the house and another called Euerynden's felde, both upon the den of Bigtilte.
Witnesses: Willm Fowle his mark, John Asten, Lawrence Davy, and Henry Asten. Proved 2 June 1548 by the executrix named in the will. (Archdeaconry of Canterbury, vol. 8, fo. 2.)"
The 8 children of Robert Bigge and Elizbeth are as follows:
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