Husband Roger GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1473 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: 1535-1536 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Buried:
Father: Thomas GODBOLD (Abt 1450- )
Mother:
Marriage:
Wife Margery
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
1 F Johan GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1500 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: Bef Jun 1541 - Syleham, Suffolk, England
Buried:
Spouse: William BERT (Abt 1496-1556)
2 M Henry GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1497 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: After 1542
Buried:
3 F Isabell GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1503 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Thomas CONWOLDE ( - )
Marr: Abt 1525
Spouse: Thomas LISTER ( - )
4 M William GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1505 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: 1523
Buried:
Spouse: Margery ( - )
Marr: Abt 1530
5 F Margaret GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1507 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: Bef 1557
Buried:
Spouse: William HULLOCK ( - )
Marr: Abt 1526
6 M Nicholas GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1590 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: 1586
Buried:
Spouse: Alice ( -1562)
Marr: 21 Jul 1562 - Badingham, Suffolk, England
Spouse: Margaret ROBSON ( - )
Marr: 19 Apr 1582 - Gisleham, Suffolk, England
7 M Thomas GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1511 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: 1560
Buried:
8 M Roger GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1513 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: 1571
Buried:
9 F Margery GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1515 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: 1585
Buried:
Spouse: JERVYS ( - )
Spouse: John CHAMBER ( - )
General Notes (Husband)
Roger Godbold was born say 1473, probably at Dennington, Suffolk, and he apparently resided in that parish his entire life. He is listed there in the 1524 Subsidy. His will, dated 12 January 1535/6 and proved 31 October 1536, states his residence as the same place. He married Margery ___.
Roger's will bequeathed primarily properties and livestock. He gave a cow, a heifer, or a calf (or, if each child chose instead, cash of 6s 8d) to ten specific grandchildren in three families and also to each of the "chldren" in tow other families. The calves (or cash) should be delivered to the children's fathers. The fathers were William "Bertys" (with "children"), thomas Conwolde (with "children"), William Godbold (with children Elizabeth, Margery, and Anne), william Hullock (with children Elizabeth, Margery, and Anne), William Hullock (with children Roger, Margerie, Robert, Margaret, and thomasine), and Nicholas (with children Roger and Margery). Roger also named sons Thomas, Roger, and Harry ("Clerk"), and daughter Margery Godbold. Additional livestock included "sixtene" kien (milk cows) at her chose" to wife Margery, a cow each to servants Jane Godbold adn Margaret Filby, and "Sixe kien" each to sons Thomas and Roger. These two sons also shoud receive "eche of them three horses, a Carte at their owne chose w't carte harnes for vj (six) horses, and a ploughe and harnys thereunto belonging, a Turnbarell, anda payre of yron harowes." Roger desired that "after my Deceas my wif w't all others of my housholde shall continynue and kepe to gither as they ar nowe occupying all my said Landis and tenemetns w't all my Catall horse and kien which I have nowe in occupying till mighelmus next folowing aftir my Deceas, and then all thing is Discharged, Retns and fearmes payed adn set clere." The assumption is that, from this request, the members of his family got alnog well together.
the several properties that Roger bequeathed included Synbons in Dennington, Hokkmans in Badingham, Falys, Everards, Hoogeswall, and Haroldis in Dennington; Fertingis in Laxfield, and a tenement in Framsden. The land called Jaffreys is not anmed, adn probably ahd been given to son Willliam before this.
Roger gave detail about what wife Margery should ahve, in additoin to the sixteen cows already mentioned. He gave to her "my p'lor at my tenement called Synbons in Denington w't the Soler over the said, p'lor w't fre ingate and outegate, she theren to have hir chamber all the terme of hir naturall life Soo that she will kepe there and Dwell in it, And if she be mynded to Dwell in any other place at any tyme, I will she shall let it to no Stranger, but at all tymes when soon she will come to the said p'lor to have it at her owne request." Also, Margery "shall have and take yerely sufficient fyer woode upon the said Landis p'teyning to the said tenement for teh terme of hir lif, w't the oon half of all suche frutis as shall yerely growe and renewe in teh said Landis and gardens, that is for to saye bothe appells and peers, and she to have hir grynding at the mille there, of all hir owne Corne for hir owne use During all teh said terme of hir natural lif." These privileges should come to pass only if Margery remained unmarried, for "if teh sai Margerye my wif Doo marye again, then I will she shall forgoo, and not have any p'te of the fyer woode frute nor grynding nor no p'te of none other comodities to her befoer assigned." He gave her Hokkmans in Badingham "all the terme if hir life naturall" and also "five poundis of sterling money." In addition, son Nicholas, who was to receive teh tenement at Framsden, should pay "unto his mothere yerely," if she remains single, 6s 8d.
Other gifts that Roger specified were: 10 marks to daugther Margery, 20 marks to son Harry, "a materas a bolstir a Covering, a payre of blanketts and two peyre of shetis" to Margaret Cantley (probably a servant), and 6s 8d for repairs to teh parish church of Brundish. He appointed sons Harry, William, and Nicholas executors.
The next person in Roger's family to pass away was son Harry, or Henry. Herny had attended Cambridge University, receiving his Bachelor of Arts in 1515-6 adn his Master of Arts in 1519. He was ordained a priest at Ely 23 April 1519 adn served as a Fellow of Peterhouse, Cambridge, from 1517 to 1540. He received his Doctor of Divinity 1527-8. In his will, dated 8 April 1540, probate not recorded, Henry named brothers William (and his daugther Elizabeth), Thomas, Roger, and Nicholas (and his son); sisters Marggery Isabell (and her sons Roger and Harry), adn Margaret Hullock; brotehrs in law Thomas Conold (and his sons Roger and Henry), and ___ Bertys. Among other legatees were "my cosyn Jane," and Margaret Filby.
Roger's widow Margery, of Dennington, in her will dated 15 November 1542, probated 14 December 1542, distributed household items among many people, including snos William (his wife and children Roger, Margery, Isabell, Anne, Elizabeth, and Mary), Thomas, Roger, Nicholas (his wife and children Roger and Margery), and daughters Johan (husband William Berte and children Roger, enry, Robert, William, and Margery), Isabell (husband Thomas Connold and children Roer,William Edmund, Johan, Anne, John, Henry and Margery), Margaret and Margery (husband William Huuoke and children Margaret, Roger, Robert, Ambrose, and Isabell). Margery also gave remembrances to Margaret Filby and "my Cossyn Avelyn Godbolde," who have not been identified.
The items Margery bequeathed indciate comfortable living (some commas added):
Money: to one person 20s, one person 14s 4d, six people 13s 4d, three peole 10-s, one pesron 8s, six people 4s, nineteen people 3s 4d, two people 2s, three people 12d, and to "eche of my godcyldren iijd."
Livestock: four cows.
Provisions: "Corne & malte, heye & Salte"
Dairying: "My Chease presse," "a Salting Trough", "Cheasse brodis that is at Badingh'm", and "a Chsefatte (Cheese vat)" at teh house of son Nicholas.
Dishes adn cookware: 8 silver spoons, "a brason ovyn," "Lyttlyl pewter potte," "my Seconde pane (pan)", "my greatest pane & the greatyst brasse potte & a Laver (basin)", "a pane of the modler sorte, ij pewter platters, ij pewter Dysshes," "a pewter potte & my best brasse potte save oon," "a Chafer (chafing dish) & a pewter potte of a quarte," "a Sylver Sope (soup) Spone," "a pewter tyne potte," "a kettyll", "ij pewter Dsyshes, ij pewter platters, a Candylstyke," "my greatest kettyll," "a pewter platter, ij pewter Dyshes."
Furniture: "my beste Con'light & a hutche," "my second Con'lightt & a hutche," "a Raye Con'lightt,", "the best Coofer (coffer, or chest)", and "a hangyng for a Bede wyth Curteyn of grene & Rede."
Linen: "my best Fetherbed wit the Trannsome," "the Beadest (best) payer of Sheatis", "a pyullowe with the pyllowbere," "a payer of Sheatis," "a pyllowe, a pyllowbere", "a payer of Sheatis, a Table clothe", "a payer of Sheatis", "a Sheate & a blankett."
Clothing and fabric, a mantle, "my Gyrdyll which is Rede of thoon Syde and Goldyng wyer on thother syde with booklee (buckle) and pendannt, my best gown wyth the Tache," "a hede kercher"", "a hedkerche," "my Smokes (smocks)" "my gown wiyth the Bigge Cuffis, a hede kerche, a mantyll blankett & a Smale payer of Sylver Tachys," "my kyrtyll Clothe unmade," "my maryeng gyrdyll wyth boclee & pendaunce," "a quarter of velvett", and "my best Cape."
Jewelry: "myn Amber Beadis wyth the Sylver paternosters ("Lord's Prayer" beads," :the half pte of my Coorall Beadis W'th half the Sylver Beadis, the Ring," "my payer of balke Beadis," :the half pte of my Coorall Beads and half the Sylver Beades belonging unto them."
To her unmarried children -- Thomas, Roger, and Margery -- Margery gave "all such Stuff as I dyd Choyse which my husbond dyd bequeth me as is experssyd in a Inventorye fo pargeame't (parchment) which I wylled my son Henrye to wryte to be Devyded betwyn my Chyldren thomas Roger & Margerye Except all those gyftis & Bequestis that I have gevyn & bequethyd before in this my present Testament & last will." She also specified the "Resydue of all my other goodis untto the Dysposicon of myn Executors Will'm Godbold my son & Nycholas Godbold."
Wills have been found for all but one of Roger and Margery's children. Henry's will has already been mentioned. The others, in chronological order, with brief summary of their conents that relate to this article, are:
William Godbolde of Dennington, dated 27 Aguust 1552, proved 9 February 1552/3; wife Margery; lands called Jafferys, Hoggeswall, Fawyles, Harrolde, Fawthynge; daughters Margery, Isabell, Anne, Elizabeth, Mary, Rose, Beatrice; sons Roger, William, brothers Roger Godbolde, Nciholas Godbold, Thomas Godbolde; brother-in-law Thomas Lyster.
Thomas Godbalde of Dennington, dated 18 November 1557, proved 7 March 1559/60; brothers roger Godbalde, Nicholad Godbalde, late William Godbalde (daughter Beatrice); sisters late Margaret, Isabell; brothers-in-law William Hullocke, John Chamber, Thomas Lister; sister-in-law Alice Godbold (wife of Nicholas); (nephews and niece) Roger Berte, Robert Berte, Henrie Berte, William Berte, their sister Margerie Fissher; no relationsip stated: Margerie Jarvys, Margerie Dade, Margaret Filbye.
Roger Godbolde the elder of Dennington, dated 18 December 1570, proved 21 February 1570/1: servant Margaret Fillbye; lands called Shynbons, Fokkemans; nephews Roger Godbold, William Conwolde, William Godbolde; brothersNicholas Godbolde, deceased William (daugthers Margerie, Anne , Rose, Beatrice).
Isabell Lsyter of Laxfield, dated 4 September 1584, provd 12 January 1584/5; sons John Conwald, William Conwald, Edmund Conwold, Henrie Conwald, John Conwald; daughrers Margerie ___, Anne Broke.
Margerie Chamber of Dennington, dated 20 March 1584/5, proved 14 May 1585: grandchildren Johane Garter, Elizabeth Garter; children of Henrie Cunold; witness Nicholas Godbold. The will of ehr second husbadn, John Chamber of Dennington, nuncupative, names "wife Margerye" and "Margerye Jervys his wyves doughter" (dated 26 Dec 1559, proved 13 Jan 1560).
Nicholas Godbalde of Baddingham, yeoman, dated 26 Jan 1585/6, proved 11 april 1586; wife Margaret; daughter Margaret; brother late Roger Godbolde; Henrie Connold, Nicholas Connolde, Edmande connoolde, "Willliam Connalde my sister's soone"; grandson Thomas Dade; son-in-law William Dade; wife's sister Agnes Robson; father-in-law Robert Robson; brotehr-in-law Robert Robson.
Margaret Filby was named, with no relationship, in the wills of Roger Godbold 1536, Henry Godbold 1540, Margery Godbold 1542, Thomas Godbold 1557, and Roger Godbold 1570. Efforts have found no relationship, but her will strnogly suggests one. Margaret's will, dated 20 Jully 1575 and proved 28 September 1575, gives her residence as Dennington. Among many gifts, she gave legacies to a number of the great-grandchildren of Roger, through several of his children.
Husband William GODBOLD
Born: Abt 1505 - Dennington, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: 1523
Buried:
Father: Roger GODBOLD (Abt 1473-1535)
Mother: Margery ( - )
Marriage: Abt 1530
Wife Margery
Born:
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Children
Husband Joseph RICE
Born:
Christened: 13 Mar 1637-13 Mar 1638 - Berkhamstead, Hertford, England
Died: 23 Dec 1711 - Stow, Massachusetts
Buried:
Father: Edmund RICE Deacon (Abt 1594-1663)
Mother: Thomazine FROST (1600-1654)
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Mercy KING (Abt 1638-1668) - 4 May 1658 - Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Other Spouse: Mary BEERS ( - ) - 1670
Other Spouse: Sarah ( - )
Wife Martha
Born:
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Died: 4 Jan 1668-4 Jan 1669 - Marlboro, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Buried:
Children
General Notes (Husband)
Berkhamstead parish register (TAG)
Massive confusion about who he married. The Edmund Rice Association web site reports
"Joseph Rice married Mercy King, daughter of Deacon Thomas King and Anne Collins [incorrect], on 4 May 1658 at Sudbury, MA. There is some uncertainty about whether Mercy King died soon after her marriage to Joseph or whether she is the Martha Rice, wife of Joseph, who appears in the Marrlborough vital records as having died on 4 Jan 1668. Ward lists both Mercy King and Martha (?) as wives of Joseph. The Rice Genealogical Register lists only wife Mercy King and takes the death record on 4 Jan 1668 to be that of Mercy King. There is no mention of a marraige between Joseph Rice and Martha (Eames) in the Sudbury vital records. On the other hand, the birth records of Joseph's first four children all list the mother as Martha. Joseph Rice married 3rd, Mary Beers, daughter of Capt. Richard Beers, and Elizabeth Firman, in 1670. Joseph Rice married Sarah Prescott, daughter of John Prescott and Mary Platts, on 22 Feb 1677/8 at Dedham, MA, under the name Wheeler." The Rice association divides Joseph's children among the first three wives.
He lived in Marlborough in 1675. His house was one of the garrisons set up in Marlborough during King Philip's War. Between 1677 and 1681 he lived at Watertown, Massachusetts. He was chosen one of the tithingmen in Watertown in 1680.
Husband Joseph ALLEN
Born: 18 Mar 1660 - Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts
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Died:
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Father: John ALLEN (Abt 1631-1711)
Mother: Sarah ( -1702)
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Abigail MYRICK ( - ) - 5 May 1687
Wife Martha
Born:
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Children
Husband Roger PRESTON
Born: 1613 - Hadlow, Kent, England
Christened:
Died: 20 Jan 1665-20 Jan 1666 - Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
Buried:
Marriage: 1642 - Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts
Wife Martha
Born:
Christened:
Died:
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Children
1 M Samuel PRESTON
Born: 1651 - Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts
Christened:
Died: 10 Jul 1738 - Andover, Essex, Massachusetts
Buried:
Spouse: Susannah GUTTERSON (1654-1710)
Marr: 17 May 1672 - Andover, Essex, Massachusetts
2 M Thomas PRESTON
Born: 1643 - Salem, Essex, Massachusetts
Christened:
Died: 1697
Buried:
Spouse: Rebecca NURSE ( - )
Marr: 15 Apr 1669 - Salem, Essex, Massachusetts
3 F Mary PRESTON
Born:
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Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Nathaniel INGERSOLL ( - )
Marr: 8 Nov 1670
4 F Elizabeth PRESTON
Born:
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Died:
Buried:
Spouse: William HENFIELD ( - )
Marr: 12 Jul 1671 - Salem, Essex, Massachusetts
General Notes (Husband)
Another version has him born 1614 in London.
He was a tanner.
His son Thomas married a daughter of Rebecca (Towne) Nurse, who, though quite devout and respectable, was put to death as a witch in 1692 (because her family was on the wrong side of the local political conflict.).
General Notes for Child Samuel PRESTON
Samuel was a carpenter and yeoman.
General Notes for Child Thomas PRESTON
Thomas married Rebecca Nurse (1647-1719) on 4-15-1669 in Salem Village, Essex, MA. Rebecca was the daughter of Francis Nurse and Rebecca Town and granddaughter of William Towne and Joanna Blessing. They had 8 children. Rebecca (Towne) Nurse was put to death in Salem in 1692 as a witch. (Because she went to church in Salem town, and with her sisters belonged to the faction that wanted the minister of Salem Village replaced.
Analysis has found that the selection of victims of the Salem witch trials was completely nonrandom. Many victims were on teh fringes of the village society, but some, including Rebecca Nurse who was very devout and a pillar of the village society, were not. Most of the victims were on the wrong side of a conflict in the village that had centered on the selection, support, theology, and possible replacement of the minister of the church of Salem Village. A few were simply associated with the social changes that underlay the conflict.
The Salem villagers felt their entire traditional medieval way of life was under attack by an assortment of forces from Indians to the growth of a capitalist economic system that was epitomized by nearby Salem Town, as well as by the capitalistic land investment strategies of a man named Willard, who also had psychotic episodes, and was executed as a witch. A particularly egregious offense was the sale of his wife's farm that had been passed down in her family for generations. In medieval England land rights were associated with families forever, even though the land was often atually owned by the Lord of the Manor or communally by the village, as was often done in early New England, and the family paid annual rent for a house and shares of land for various purposes here and there, the boundaries of which were marked by brain maps of which furrows in the fields separated one person's land from another's, that generation after generation somehow never altered. Mr. Willard simply went around buying land and selling it at a profit, and like many of Edmund Rice's friends and their relations, of whom he was one, he became a wealthy man. The people of Salem blamed all of their problems, including threats from Indians, political problems of the government of the Massachusetts Bay colony, and sociological developments that they did not understand, on Satan.
Their anxieties and their politics together led to the witch trials in 1692. To the traditionalist party in Salem Village, all of those people were just agents of Satan. Their daughters knew who their parents didn't like, would have had general impressions of how their parents characterized those people, and suffered from the high level of general anxiety and bad feeling around them - but they were probably most immediately afflicted with extreme anxieties provoked by Puritanism's unworkable theology of election and double predestination. Some of their most devout elders were actually refusing to come to church because they failed to hear the voice of God in their hearts or find similar means of objective knowledge, assuring them they were among the Chosen.)
General Notes for Child Elizabeth PRESTON
Her husband died in teh West Indies.
Husband Richard HAFFIELD
Born: Abt 1581 - Sudbury, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: 1639 - Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts
Buried:
Marriage: Abt 1627
Other Spouse: Judith ( - ) - Abt 1618
Wife Martha
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Children
1 F Martha HAFFIELD
Born: 1627 - Sudbury, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Richard COY (1625-1675)
Marr: Abt 1652
2 F Rachel HAFFIELD
Born: Abt 1629
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
3 F Ruth HAFFIELD
Born: Abt 1632
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
On April 10, 1635, the vessel "Planter" left England, carrying a number of Sudbury, England people to New England. Among the passengers were the family named Haffield. Richard, 54, currier; wife Martha, 42; Mary, 18; Sarah, 14; Martha, 8; Rachel, 6 and Ruth, 3. The Minister of Sudbury & the Mayor of the Town certified their "conformitie to the orders & discipline of the Church of England".
Richard Hasfell (Haffield) settled his family in Ipswich. Richard was not destined to enjoy a long life in New England. He wrote his will on February 17, 1638 and died in 1639. In the will, he mentions his wife, but not by name, and all five of his daughters, Mary, Sarah, Martha, Rachel & Ruth. The will and proof do not mention thedate of his death. Information for this biography from NEGBR, vol. 3, p. 156 and vol. 5, p. 181, and Hotten's "Original Lists" pages 48, 55, 56.
General Notes for Child Martha HAFFIELD
Martha, daughter of Richard Haffield and his wife Martha, probably grew up in Ipswich, Massachusetts. She married Richard Coy, who was born in England about 1625 and came to New England with his brother in 1638 at the age of 13. One of their sons, Caleb, born August 15, 1666, was killed by Indians at Brookfield, at the beginning of King Phillip's War. Her husband Richard Coy also died while fighting in King Phillip's War. He was killed by Indians near Brookfield, Massachusetts during the famous Swamp Fight on August 2, 1675 and is buried, along with the others who fell there, near Wickabog Pond in West Brookfield. The rest of Martha's life is not documented. She may have remarried and died with a different name. Information for this biography is from Savage's Genealogical Dictionary; records of the Town of Beverly; "Origin of Matthew & Richard Coy, in 1638 of Boston, Mass." by John G. Hunt; NEGBR, Vol. 113, page 236, vol. 3, p. 156 and vol. 5, p. 181 and Hotten's "Original Lists" pages 48, 55, 56.
Husband Thomas HUBBARD
Born: 27 Aug 1696 - Concord, Middlesex, Massachusetts
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Died:
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Father: Jonathan HUBBARD (1658-1681)
Mother: Hannah RICE (1658-1747)
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Mary ( - )
Wife Mary
Born:
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Children
Husband Jonathan ADAMS
Born: 1614-1619 - Barton, St. David, Somerset, England
Christened: Jan 1980 - Barton, St David, Somerset, England
Died: 28 Jul 1690 - Braintree, Norfolk, Mass.
Buried: 30 Jul 1690 - Braintree, Norfolk, Ma, Braintree Cem
Father: Henry ADAMS (1583-1646)
Mother: Edith SQUIRE (1587-1672)
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Joane CLOSE ( - ) - 7 Feb 1639 - Boltonsborough, Somersetshire, England
Other Spouse: Elizabeth HOLMAN ( - ) - 1665-1666 - Medfield, Massachusetts
Other Spouse: Abigail (Craft) RUGGLES ( - )
Other Spouse: Sarah TAYLOR ( - )
Other Spouse: Elizabeth RUSSELL ( - )
Other Spouse: Lydia PENNIMAN ( - )
Other Spouse: Elizabeth FUSSELL ( - )
Wife Mary
Born:
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Children
Husband Joseph BRADISH
Born: 6 May 1638 - Cambridge, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Christened:
Died: 7 Jul 1720 - Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Buried:
Father: Robert BRADISH (Abt 1608-1659)
Mother: Mary (Abt 1616-1638)
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Mary BRADISH ( - )
Wife Mary
Born:
Christened:
Died:
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Children
Husband Edmund FROST
Born: 28 Aug 1593 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
Christened:
Died: Jul 1672 - Cambridge, Middlesex, England
Buried:
Father: John FROST ( - )
Mother:
Father: John FROST ( - )
Mother:
Marriage: 1653
Other Spouse: Thomazine CLENCHE (1608-1653) - 16 Apr 1634 - Earls Colne, Essex, England
Other Spouse: Mary ( -Bef 1669) - 1653
Other Spouse: Reana ( -Bef 1665) - Abt 1669
Other Spouse: Reana ( -Bef 1665) - Abt 1669
Wife Mary
Born:
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Died: Bef 1669
Buried:
Children
1 F Sarah FROST
Born: 1653 - Cambridge, Middlesex, England
Christened:
Died:
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General Notes (Husband)
A "preaching elder" forced to leave England under an assumed name because he dissented from church views. Settled immediately in 1635 in Cambridge with first wife and son John. One of original members of First Congregationalist Church of Cambridge. Made elder 1636. m 1 1630 Thomazine, not Belgrave (who may have actually married Edward Frost) in Hartest, Suffolk, England. She d 6/13/1653 Sudbury MA m 2 Mary c 1653 d bef 1669 m 3 Reana c 1669 d bef 11/3/1665 m 1 Edmund Jaes bef 1640, m 2 William Andrews (-1652) c8/11/1640 3 Robert Daniel (-1655( 5/2/1654
This would give Edmund powerful Puritan connections, but I do not have on what this parentage is based. Moreover, the list of children that I have does not include alleged Frost sisters Alice, Elizabeth, OR Thomasine.
His father was allegedly John Frost, a minister persecuted by Archbishop Laud.
He was married To Thomazine Clenche by Rev. Shepherd, whose group he belonged to. SeeSee Thompson, Neil D., "The English Ancestry of Thomasine (Clench) Frost, First Wife of Edmund Frost of Cambridge, Massachusetts," in New England Historical and Genealogical Register, vol. 153 (July 1999), pp. 279, 289.
I have dates of birth Aug 28 1573 and Aug 28 1593. There appears to be an effort to make him a child of John the Younger, father of Edward Frost, Glemsford adn Hartest, but this doesn't match up.
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Edmund Frost is the first American ancestor for many of us. For you and
Darlene Frost Kneaves, this is what I've found so far. I believe Edmund:
-was born in Hartest, Suffolk County, England Aug. 28, 1593.
The following two books led me to look at Hartest and dates around 1593:
The Frost
Family in England and America with Special Reference to Edmund Frost and
Some of
His Descendants,Thomas G. Frost and Edward L. Frost (Russell Printing
Co.,
Buffalo,NY,1909) and Frost Genealogy in Five Families, Norman Seaver
Frost, (Frost
Family Assn. of America, West Newton, MA, 1926) reprinted by Higginson
Book Co.
The parish transcripts from Hartest 1556-1784, Family History Library
(FHL) film
0991936 show only one Edmund Frost born between 1556 and 1620, the one
born
Aug. 28, 1593. "Our" Edmund's birth could have been erroneously omitted,
but
I believe this is the right one.
-was the son of John Frost.
The books also point to John as Edmund's father and many trees said he
was born in
or around 1570.
The transcripts show only two John Frosts born in
Hartest between
1565 and 1575: May 30, 1568 and March 17,1572. The father of both John
Frosts
was John Frost. The second birth has "carpr." next to John the father's
name,
apparently to differentiate John the carpenter from the John who had
"sexton" in the
margins for a different child's birth. Again, this could be wrong, but I
think one of these
two Johns was Edmund's father. If Edmund was born in 1593, the earliest
his father
could have died was 1592. There was a John Frost sho died Sept.6, 1606
who was "son
of Hen.[ry] of Glemsford.
This may have given rise to the
Edmund-born-in-Glemsford,
England belief that I saw in some Frost family trees that didn't have
documentation.
Other John Frosts died Mar. 20, 1607, Feb. 2, 1609, and Feb. 9, 1609.
According to
Hartest: A Village History, ed. Clive Paine (Hartest Local History Group,
Lavenham Press
Lavenham, England, 1999) the last two are son and father, and the
father's will didn't
mention a son Edmund. This means the John Frost who died in 1607 might
have been
Edmund's father.
-was the grandson of John Frost. See information above.
-was married to Thomasine Clench whose parentage is known.
The Frost books and other sources say his wife was Thomasine Belgrave or
Clench.
Neil Thompson reported his research in "The English Ancestry of Thomasine
(Clench)
Frost, First Wife of Edmund Frost of Cambridge, Massachusetts," New
England
Historical and Genealogical Register, July 1999.
Microfilmed parish
register records
from the town of Earls Colne, Essex County, England show Reverend Thomas
Shepard
married Edmund Frost and Thomasine "Clenche" Apr. 16, 1634. This is
significant
because Edmund and Thomasine came to America with Shepard.
Thomasine was
baptized Oct.6,1608 at Bottisham, Cambridgeshire, the 7th of 8 children
of Robert Clench
and Joan Webbe. Robert was baptized at Coddenham, Suffolk County June 22,
1572 with
his twin sister Anne, and died at Witcham, Cambridgeshire before July 12,
1633 when
his will was "proved." Joan was born about 1579, the daughter of Thomas
Webbe and
Susanna Smyth, and died after June 1610 when her oldest child was
baptized. Robert
was a landowner in Bottisham and moved to Witcham, Isle of Ely after
1610. Robert was
one of 13 children of John Clench and Katherine Almott. John was
probably born in
Wethersfield, Essex around 1533, and died in Holbrook, Suffolk Aug. 18 or
19, 1607.
Katherine was born around 1534, the daughter of Thomas Almott and Bridget
of Creeting
All Saints, Suffolk. Bridget's surname was possibly Thorne. John Clench
was a judge
who, according to Thompson, was "a favorite of Queen Elizabeth I who
called him 'her
good judge.'" The judge's father, Edmund's great-grandfather, was John
clenche of
Wethersfield, Essex, whose parents are unkknown. In his will he called
himself a
husbandman, which means farmer, although he owned some land and leased
other land.
Around 1525 he married Joan Amias, daughter of John Amias, "gentleman."
I think some of the Thomasine Clench-Belgrave confusion is due to the
fact that there
was a Thomasine Frost, a descendent of John Strutt (Strut) of Glemsford,
who married
Edmund Rice and immigrated to Sudbury, MA.
-had his first son John in England in 1635.
Books and trees give various dates, but people usually had their first
child about a year
after they were married, and Edmund and Thomasine were married Apr. 16,
1634. I
didn't find a birth of a John Frost around this time in the Hartest
records, but since they
were married in Earls Colne, it may have occurred there. I haven't
ordered the Earls
Colne microfilm yet.
Re: Edmund's son James. I'm not descended from him, but the Frost Family
book says
James was Edmund and Thomasine's sixth child born 9,2,1643 old system
(Apr. 9,
1643). He "settled in Billerica and m. Rebecca Hamlet, Dec. 17, 1664;
she d. Aug. 20,
1666 and he m. Elizabeth, dau. of Thos. Foster, Jan. 22, 1666-7. His
children were
James, b. Aug. 14, 1666; Thomas, b. Oct. 18, 1667; John, b. Nov.14, 1668,
d. Mar.
3,1668-9; Samuel, b. Feb. 28, 1669-70; Elizabeth b.Nov.6,1672, m. Peter
Cornell;
Edmund b. May 14, d.May 18, 1675; Sarah b.July 15, 1678, m.--Howard;
Hannah
b.Jan.31,1680-1; Joseph, b.Mar.21,1682-3; Abigail b.Aug.23,1685,
m.Ephraim Kidder;
Benjamin, b.Mar.8,1687-8, and Mary, who m. John Walker. James the f. was
deacon of
the Billerica church and died Aug. 12, 1711, a.71; his wife Elizabeth,
survived. He was a
soldier against Weymesit Indians, Billerica garrison, 1675." The Frost
Genealogy book
takes James' line through nine generations who lived in MA, NH, and VT,
but none in
Maine (the MA towns are in what is now MA). Darlene - e-mail me your
snail mail
address if you want me to send you a photocopy of the James generations.
Hope this helps the Edmund descendants.
Robin in maryland
Discussion on Frost-l with above individual, Nov 10 and 11, 2005
I think some family histories have confused Thomasine Belgrave, who married Edmund Rice and lived in Sudbury, MA with Thomasine Clenche, who married Edmund Frost and lived in Cambridge, MA. The best source of info on Thomasine Clench Frost is probably an article by Neil Thompson, "The English Ancestry of Thomasine (Clench) Frost, First Wife of Edmund Frost of Cambridge, Massachusetts," in the July 1999 New England Historic and Genealogic Register. All dates are month,day,year and all locations England unless otherwise specified. Thompson's information is based on church records. He said Thomasine was baptized 10/6/1608 in Bottisham, Cambridgeshire, the daughter of Robert and Joan (Webbe) Clench. Robert was baptized at Coddenham, Suffolk, with his twin sister Anne and died at Witcham, Cambridgeshire before 7/12/1633 when his will was "proved." Joan was born about 1579, the daughter of Thomas and Susanna (Smyth) Webbe, and died after 6/1610 when her oldest child was baptized. Robert was a landowner in Bottisham, but moved to Witcham, Isle of Ely after 1610. Earlier parish registers don't exist, the Bishop's Transcripts are incomplete, and there is no burial record for Robert, Joan, or his second wife. Robert was the son of John Clench, "the Judge," who was probably born in Wethersfield, Essex around 1533, died in Holbrook, Suffolk Aug. 18 or 19, 1607. John married Katherine Almott around 1555. Katherine was born around 1534, the daughter of Thomas Almott and Bridget (possible surname Thorne) of Creeting All Saints, Suffolk. Thompson said Judge Clench had a "distinguished" career and "is said to have been a favorite of Queen Elizabeth I who called him 'her good judge.'" When he died he had lands in Harkstead, Grundisburgh, Clopton, Kirton, Holbrook, Great Bealings, and Bramford in Suffolk County (I couldn't find these on a map), but he didn't leave an estate record. At various times the family lived in Creeting All Saints, Crowfield in Coddenham, and Holbrook in Suffolk. John's father was John Clench of Wethersfield, Essex, parents unknown. In his will he called himself a husbandman, which means farmer, although he had "freehold" land, which means land owned free and clear, and "copyhold" land which means "a tenure of property proved by a written transcript of record in the rolls of a manorial court," according to the dictionary. Around 1525 John married Joan Amias, daughter of John Amias "gentleman." Thompson said Edmund Frost and Thomasine "Clenche" were married 4/16/1634 by Reverend Thomas Shepard in Earls Colne, Essex County. This is significant because Edmund and Thomasine came to the colonies with Shepard and the rest of his congregation. I found a birth record for an Edmund Frost in theHartest, Suffolk County parish records on 8/28/1593. His father's name was John. Family histories say Edmund's father was born in or around 1570. I found only two John Frosts born in Hartest between 1565 and 1575, one 5/30/1568 and one 3/17/1572 who had "carpr." written next to his name. The father of both John Frosts was also John Frost. Hope this helps. Robin in Maryland
Dora Smith asked why some believe Edmund Frost's father was a clergyman named John who was persecuted by Laud. Unfortunately, the two major Edmund Frost genealogies don't give any sources. When I've checked their data against original records, I found the genealogies were accurate almost all the time. However, church records, called parish registers, didn't begin in England until 1538. Edmund and Thomasine were married by Reverend Thomas Shepard and emigrated with him. Shepard's autobiography describes his persecution by Laud. I don't know if John Frost of Hartest was Edmund's father. I believe he was because the family histories say Edmund was born in Hartest and the only birth record I found in the parish records had an Edmund whose father was John. The Hartest Local History Group also believes Edmund was born to John in Hartest on 8/28/1593. Their book Hartest: A Village History includes two JohnFrosts, a tanner who died in 1661 and a weaver who died in 1644. I don't know if these are relatives. Some Frost histories give various dates for Edmund's birth, and some say he was born in Glemsford. I read parish records transcribed in 1941, when England was being bombed regularly. I'm guessing they were done to make sure a copy survived. The handwriting in the originals is the worst I've ever seen, so there could be errors. However, I only saw one Edmund Frost born in Glemsford, a twin to John born in 1564. I read transcribed Hartest records from 1556-1635 and only found one Edmund born 8/28/1593 to John. Was Robert the son of a prominent judge? The genealogist who published the article checked original records when he could, transcribed articles when he couldn't. The NEHGS has a high standard for publication, so I give their articles a lot of credibility. Was Edmund an ordained minister or a church elder? I've read the records of the town and church of Cambridge, MA (originally called the New Towne or Newtown) which say he was one of the first two church elders. The records often refer to him as Elder Frost. The town didn't have a minister from 1668-71 so church officials including Edmund were given the responsibility for "cathechizing the youth" which meant making sure they had memorized religious material printed in Q&A format. Edmund was poor, and the church occasionally gave him money food, or other items. Robin in Maryland
General Notes (Wife)
Her name may have been Mary Edmund Frost. (????)