Ancestry of Phillip Harrison McKinstry

Ancestry of Phillip Harrison McKinstry



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Michael Mitton and Elizabeth Cleeve




Husband Michael MITTON

           Born:  - England
     Christened: 
           Died: 1660-1661
         Buried: 
       Marriage: 1637 - Maine




Wife Elizabeth CLEEVE

           Born: 1619 - Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: George CLEEVE (Abt 1586-After 1666)
         Mother: Joan PRICE (      -      )





Children
1 F Sarah Dorcas MITTON

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: James ANDREWS (1625-1704)
           Marr: 1650 - Saco, Cumberland, Maine




General Notes (Husband)

Michael Mitton He probably arrived with George Cleeve, his father-in-law to be, in 1637. He was probably an Episcopalian He served under the Gorges government as constable for Falmouth. Michael is called a "gentleman, sportsman, and teller of tall tales." He lived at Clark's point, presently the foot of Brackett street in Portland, Cumberland Coun ty , Me. Cleeve leased to him Pond (Peaks) Island in Gorges' name in Dec 1637, the transaction being c onfirmed by Tho. Gorges in 1642 and by Cleeve for Rigby in 1650. Lived at Peak's Island in Casco Bay off the shore of Portland (formerly Falmouth), Maine Settled the island as early as 1637 Peak's Island was known as Michael's Island for sixty years Michael owned much land, including Peaks Island, and hundreds of acres in present-day Portlan d. He died between 25 Aug 1660 and 7 Oct 1661. Inventory lists 279 acres of land including Pond Island and a neck of land adjacent to Lawrence's Cove known as Clark's Point.
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George Cleeve and Joan Price




Husband George CLEEVE

           Born: Abt 1586 - Stogursey, Somersetshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: After Nov 1666
         Buried: 
       Marriage: 7 Sep 1618 - St. Chad's Church, Shrewsbury, Shropshre, England




Wife Joan PRICE

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



Children
1 F Elizabeth CLEEVE

           Born: 1619 - Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Michael MITTON (      -1660)
           Marr: 1637 - Maine




General Notes (Husband)

He was a vintner. He was a burgess in 1619 at Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England. He immigrated in 1630 to Spurwink, ME. He resided in 1633 at Falmouth, ME. He was Deputy President of Ligonia.
He married first to Alice in London, England. He apparently got around.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

George Cleeve (ca. 1586- after 1666 ) was an early settler and "founder of Portland, Maine "; Deputy President of the Province of Lygonia from 1643 until the final submission of its Maine towns to Massachusetts authority in 1658.

Born about 1586 in Stogursey, Somersetshire, England, he came to New England in 1630, settling first at Spurwink (near today's Cape Elizabeth), and at today's Portland in 1633. In 1637, Sir Ferdinando Gorges granted Cleeve and associate Richard Tucker 1,500 acres at Machegonne (Portland Neck) that included the area of today's downtown Portland.

His career was both contentious and litigious, engaged in frequent land disputes and vying with Gorges' Province of Maine for jurisdiction over the area north of Cape Porpoise. He is known to have convened provincial courts at Casco in 1644 and Black Point in 1648.

Under Massachusetts governance of the area, he was Commissioner for Falmouth (from 1658)and Representative to the General Court, 1663-1664.

He died sometime after November 1666, last known record of his life.

He married Joan Price 7 September 1618; daughter Elizabeth (born 1619) married in 1637 Michael Mitton, from whom numerous descendants today.


References
Noyes, Libby, Davis, Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire (Genealogical Publishing Company reprint, 1996)
James Phinney Baxter, George Cleeve of Casco Bay (Gorges Society, 1885)
W. Williamson, "History of Maine", Volume I
Robert C. Anderson, The Great Migration Begins, bio. entry.
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George L. Clemence and Emily McKinstry




Husband George L. CLEMENCE

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
       Marriage: 




Wife Emily McKINSTRY

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Prevostus McKINSTRY (1809-      )
         Mother: Jane CARPENTER (      -      )





Children

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Elijah Marcy and Sarah Clemence




Husband Elijah MARCY

           Born: Bef 1792
     Christened: 
           Died: 1855
         Buried: 


         Father: Elijah MARCY (Abt 1764-1806)
         Mother: Mary HOBBS (1767-1813)


       Marriage: 6 Feb 1817 - Southbridge, Worcester, Massachusetts




Wife Sarah CLEMENCE

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



Children

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Luther Clemens and Mary McKinstry




Husband Luther CLEMENS

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
       Marriage: 2 Apr 1815 - Sturbridge, Massachusetts




Wife Mary McKINSTRY

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: William McKINSTRY Jr or II (1755-      )
         Mother: Esther ROBBINS (1760-      )





Children

General Notes (Wife)

Sturbridge Marriages: Mercy or Marcy and Luther Clemons (Clemmens) of Charlton.
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Robert Clenche and Joan Webbe




Husband Robert CLENCHE

           Born: 
     Christened:  - Coddenham, Suffolk, England
           Died: Bef 12 Jul 1633 - Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England
         Buried: 


         Father: John CLENCHE (      -      )
         Mother: Catherine ALMOTT (      -      )


       Marriage: 




Wife Joan WEBBE

           Born: Abt 1579
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Thomas WEBBE (      -      )
         Mother: Susanne SMITH (      -      )




         Father: Thomas WEBBE (      -      )
         Mother: Susanne SMITH (      -      )





Children
1 F Thomazine CLENCHE

           Born: 
     Christened: 6 Oct 1608 - Bottisham, Cambridgeshire, England
           Died: 13 Jun 1653 - Sudbury, Ma
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Edmund FROST (1593-1672)
           Marr: 16 Apr 1634 - Earls Colne, Essex, England




General Notes for Child Thomazine CLENCHE

She was not Thomazine Belgrave, who may have actally married Edward Frost.

Death date is suspiciously similar to that of Thomazine the wife of Edmund Rice. She supposedly died in Sudbury on 13 Jun 1653.
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Edmund Frost and Thomazine Clenche




Husband Edmund FROST

           Born: 28 Aug 1593 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
     Christened: 
           Died: Jul 1672 - Cambridge, Middlesex, England
         Buried: 


         Father: John FROST (      -      )
         Mother: 




         Father: John FROST (      -      )
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 16 Apr 1634 - Earls Colne, Essex, England

   Other Spouse: Mary (      -Bef 1669) - 1653

   Other Spouse: Reana (      -Bef 1665) - Abt 1669

   Other Spouse: Mary (      -Bef 1669) - 1653

   Other Spouse: Reana (      -Bef 1665) - Abt 1669




Wife Thomazine CLENCHE

           Born: 
     Christened: 6 Oct 1608 - Bottisham, Cambridgeshire, England
           Died: 13 Jun 1653 - Sudbury, Ma
         Buried: 


         Father: Robert CLENCHE (      -Bef 1633)
         Mother: Joan WEBBE (Abt 1579-      )





Children
1 F Thomazine FROST

           Born: 
     Christened: 11 Aug 1600 - St. James, Stanstead, Suffolk, England
           Died: 13 Jun 1654 - Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Edmund RICE Deacon (Abt 1594-1663)
           Marr: 15 Oct 1618 - Bury St Edmunds St Mary, Suffolk, England



2 M John FROST

           Born: Abt 1634 - England
     Christened: 
           Died: 30 Sep 1672
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Rebecca ANDREW (      -      )
           Marr: 26 Jun 1666 - Massachusetts



3 M Thomas FROST

           Born: Mar 1636-Mar 1637 - Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts
     Christened: 
           Died: 1639 - Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts
         Buried: 



4 M Samuel FROST

           Born: 13 Feb 1638-13 Feb 1639 - Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts
     Christened: 
           Died: 7 Jan 1717-7 Jan 1718 - Billerica, Middlesex, Massachusetts
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Mary COLE (      -      )
           Marr: 22 Oct 1663
         Spouse: Elizabeth MILLER (      -      )
           Marr: Bef 1674
         Spouse: Elizabeth MILLER (      -      )
           Marr: Bef 1674



5 M Joseph FROST

           Born: 13 Jan 1639-13 Jan 1640 - Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts
     Christened: 
           Died: 1692
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Hannah MILLER (      -      )
           Marr: 22 May 1666 - Charlestown, Massachusetts
         Spouse: Hannah MILLER (      -      )
           Marr: 22 May 1666 - Charlestown, Massachusetts



6 M Deacon James FROST

           Born: 9 Apr 1643 - Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts
     Christened: 
           Died: 12 Aug 1711 - Billerica, Middlesex, Massachusetts
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Rebecca HAMLET (      -Abt 1666)
           Marr: 17 Dec 1664 - Billerica, Middlesex, Massachusetts
         Spouse: Elizabeth FOSTER (      -      )
           Marr: 22 Jan 1667



7 F Mary FROST

           Born: 24 Jul 1645 - Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



8 M Ephraim FROST

           Born: 1646 - Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts
     Christened: 
           Died: 2 Jan 1718-2 Jan 1719
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Hepzibah PRATT (      -      )
           Marr: Bef 1678
         Spouse: Hannah JOHNSON (      -      )
           Marr: 9 Jul 1681
         Spouse: Sarah SINGLETARY (      -      )



9 M Thomas FROST

           Born: 1647 - Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts
     Christened: 
           Died: 1724
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Mary GIBBS (      -      )
           Marr: 12 Nov 1678




General Notes (Husband)

A "preaching elder" forced to leave England under an assumed name because he dissented from church views. Settled immediately in 1635 in Cambridge with first wife and son John. One of original members of First Congregationalist Church of Cambridge. Made elder 1636. m 1 1630 Thomazine, not Belgrave (who may have actually married Edward Frost) in Hartest, Suffolk, England. She d 6/13/1653 Sudbury MA m 2 Mary c 1653 d bef 1669 m 3 Reana c 1669 d bef 11/3/1665 m 1 Edmund Jaes bef 1640, m 2 William Andrews (-1652) c8/11/1640 3 Robert Daniel (-1655( 5/2/1654

This would give Edmund powerful Puritan connections, but I do not have on what this parentage is based. Moreover, the list of children that I have does not include alleged Frost sisters Alice, Elizabeth, OR Thomasine.

His father was allegedly John Frost, a minister persecuted by Archbishop Laud.

He was married To Thomazine Clenche by Rev. Shepherd, whose group he belonged to. SeeSee Thompson, Neil D., "The English Ancestry of Thomasine (Clench) Frost, First Wife of Edmund Frost of Cambridge, Massachusetts," in New England Historical and Genealogical Register, vol. 153 (July 1999), pp. 279, 289.


I have dates of birth Aug 28 1573 and Aug 28 1593. There appears to be an effort to make him a child of John the Younger, father of Edward Frost, Glemsford adn Hartest, but this doesn't match up.

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ate: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:50:58 EDT
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Edmund Frost is the first American ancestor for many of us. For you and
Darlene Frost Kneaves, this is what I've found so far. I believe Edmund:
-was born in Hartest, Suffolk County, England Aug. 28, 1593.
The following two books led me to look at Hartest and dates around 1593:
The Frost
Family in England and America with Special Reference to Edmund Frost and
Some of
His Descendants,Thomas G. Frost and Edward L. Frost (Russell Printing
Co.,
Buffalo,NY,1909) and Frost Genealogy in Five Families, Norman Seaver
Frost, (Frost
Family Assn. of America, West Newton, MA, 1926) reprinted by Higginson
Book Co.

The parish transcripts from Hartest 1556-1784, Family History Library
(FHL) film
0991936 show only one Edmund Frost born between 1556 and 1620, the one
born
Aug. 28, 1593. "Our" Edmund's birth could have been erroneously omitted,
but
I believe this is the right one.
-was the son of John Frost.
The books also point to John as Edmund's father and many trees said he
was born in
or around 1570.

The transcripts show only two John Frosts born in
Hartest between
1565 and 1575: May 30, 1568 and March 17,1572. The father of both John
Frosts
was John Frost. The second birth has "carpr." next to John the father's
name,
apparently to differentiate John the carpenter from the John who had
"sexton" in the
margins for a different child's birth. Again, this could be wrong, but I
think one of these
two Johns was Edmund's father. If Edmund was born in 1593, the earliest
his father
could have died was 1592. There was a John Frost sho died Sept.6, 1606
who was "son
of Hen.[ry] of Glemsford.

This may have given rise to the
Edmund-born-in-Glemsford,
England belief that I saw in some Frost family trees that didn't have
documentation.
Other John Frosts died Mar. 20, 1607, Feb. 2, 1609, and Feb. 9, 1609.
According to
Hartest: A Village History, ed. Clive Paine (Hartest Local History Group,
Lavenham Press
Lavenham, England, 1999) the last two are son and father, and the
father's will didn't
mention a son Edmund. This means the John Frost who died in 1607 might
have been
Edmund's father.

-was the grandson of John Frost. See information above.
-was married to Thomasine Clench whose parentage is known.
The Frost books and other sources say his wife was Thomasine Belgrave or
Clench.
Neil Thompson reported his research in "The English Ancestry of Thomasine
(Clench)
Frost, First Wife of Edmund Frost of Cambridge, Massachusetts," New
England
Historical and Genealogical Register, July 1999.

Microfilmed parish
register records
from the town of Earls Colne, Essex County, England show Reverend Thomas
Shepard
married Edmund Frost and Thomasine "Clenche" Apr. 16, 1634. This is
significant
because Edmund and Thomasine came to America with Shepard.

Thomasine was
baptized Oct.6,1608 at Bottisham, Cambridgeshire, the 7th of 8 children
of Robert Clench
and Joan Webbe. Robert was baptized at Coddenham, Suffolk County June 22,
1572 with
his twin sister Anne, and died at Witcham, Cambridgeshire before July 12,
1633 when
his will was "proved." Joan was born about 1579, the daughter of Thomas
Webbe and
Susanna Smyth, and died after June 1610 when her oldest child was
baptized. Robert
was a landowner in Bottisham and moved to Witcham, Isle of Ely after
1610. Robert was
one of 13 children of John Clench and Katherine Almott. John was
probably born in
Wethersfield, Essex around 1533, and died in Holbrook, Suffolk Aug. 18 or
19, 1607.
Katherine was born around 1534, the daughter of Thomas Almott and Bridget
of Creeting
All Saints, Suffolk. Bridget's surname was possibly Thorne. John Clench
was a judge
who, according to Thompson, was "a favorite of Queen Elizabeth I who
called him 'her
good judge.'" The judge's father, Edmund's great-grandfather, was John
clenche of
Wethersfield, Essex, whose parents are unkknown. In his will he called
himself a
husbandman, which means farmer, although he owned some land and leased
other land.
Around 1525 he married Joan Amias, daughter of John Amias, "gentleman."
I think some of the Thomasine Clench-Belgrave confusion is due to the
fact that there
was a Thomasine Frost, a descendent of John Strutt (Strut) of Glemsford,
who married
Edmund Rice and immigrated to Sudbury, MA.
-had his first son John in England in 1635.
Books and trees give various dates, but people usually had their first
child about a year
after they were married, and Edmund and Thomasine were married Apr. 16,
1634. I
didn't find a birth of a John Frost around this time in the Hartest
records, but since they
were married in Earls Colne, it may have occurred there. I haven't
ordered the Earls
Colne microfilm yet.
Re: Edmund's son James. I'm not descended from him, but the Frost Family
book says
James was Edmund and Thomasine's sixth child born 9,2,1643 old system
(Apr. 9,
1643). He "settled in Billerica and m. Rebecca Hamlet, Dec. 17, 1664;
she d. Aug. 20,
1666 and he m. Elizabeth, dau. of Thos. Foster, Jan. 22, 1666-7. His
children were
James, b. Aug. 14, 1666; Thomas, b. Oct. 18, 1667; John, b. Nov.14, 1668,
d. Mar.
3,1668-9; Samuel, b. Feb. 28, 1669-70; Elizabeth b.Nov.6,1672, m. Peter
Cornell;
Edmund b. May 14, d.May 18, 1675; Sarah b.July 15, 1678, m.--Howard;
Hannah
b.Jan.31,1680-1; Joseph, b.Mar.21,1682-3; Abigail b.Aug.23,1685,
m.Ephraim Kidder;
Benjamin, b.Mar.8,1687-8, and Mary, who m. John Walker. James the f. was
deacon of
the Billerica church and died Aug. 12, 1711, a.71; his wife Elizabeth,
survived. He was a
soldier against Weymesit Indians, Billerica garrison, 1675." The Frost
Genealogy book
takes James' line through nine generations who lived in MA, NH, and VT,
but none in
Maine (the MA towns are in what is now MA). Darlene - e-mail me your
snail mail
address if you want me to send you a photocopy of the James generations.

Hope this helps the Edmund descendants.
Robin in maryland

Discussion on Frost-l with above individual, Nov 10 and 11, 2005

I think some family histories have confused Thomasine Belgrave, who married Edmund Rice and lived in Sudbury, MA with Thomasine Clenche, who married Edmund Frost and lived in Cambridge, MA. The best source of info on Thomasine Clench Frost is probably an article by Neil Thompson, "The English Ancestry of Thomasine (Clench) Frost, First Wife of Edmund Frost of Cambridge, Massachusetts," in the July 1999 New England Historic and Genealogic Register. All dates are month,day,year and all locations England unless otherwise specified. Thompson's information is based on church records. He said Thomasine was baptized 10/6/1608 in Bottisham, Cambridgeshire, the daughter of Robert and Joan (Webbe) Clench. Robert was baptized at Coddenham, Suffolk, with his twin sister Anne and died at Witcham, Cambridgeshire before 7/12/1633 when his will was "proved." Joan was born about 1579, the daughter of Thomas and Susanna (Smyth) Webbe, and died after 6/1610 when her oldest child was baptized. Robert was a landowner in Bottisham, but moved to Witcham, Isle of Ely after 1610. Earlier parish registers don't exist, the Bishop's Transcripts are incomplete, and there is no burial record for Robert, Joan, or his second wife. Robert was the son of John Clench, "the Judge," who was probably born in Wethersfield, Essex around 1533, died in Holbrook, Suffolk Aug. 18 or 19, 1607. John married Katherine Almott around 1555. Katherine was born around 1534, the daughter of Thomas Almott and Bridget (possible surname Thorne) of Creeting All Saints, Suffolk. Thompson said Judge Clench had a "distinguished" career and "is said to have been a favorite of Queen Elizabeth I who called him 'her good judge.'" When he died he had lands in Harkstead, Grundisburgh, Clopton, Kirton, Holbrook, Great Bealings, and Bramford in Suffolk County (I couldn't find these on a map), but he didn't leave an estate record. At various times the family lived in Creeting All Saints, Crowfield in Coddenham, and Holbrook in Suffolk. John's father was John Clench of Wethersfield, Essex, parents unknown. In his will he called himself a husbandman, which means farmer, although he had "freehold" land, which means land owned free and clear, and "copyhold" land which means "a tenure of property proved by a written transcript of record in the rolls of a manorial court," according to the dictionary. Around 1525 John married Joan Amias, daughter of John Amias "gentleman." Thompson said Edmund Frost and Thomasine "Clenche" were married 4/16/1634 by Reverend Thomas Shepard in Earls Colne, Essex County. This is significant because Edmund and Thomasine came to the colonies with Shepard and the rest of his congregation. I found a birth record for an Edmund Frost in theHartest, Suffolk County parish records on 8/28/1593. His father's name was John. Family histories say Edmund's father was born in or around 1570. I found only two John Frosts born in Hartest between 1565 and 1575, one 5/30/1568 and one 3/17/1572 who had "carpr." written next to his name. The father of both John Frosts was also John Frost. Hope this helps. Robin in Maryland

Dora Smith asked why some believe Edmund Frost's father was a clergyman named John who was persecuted by Laud. Unfortunately, the two major Edmund Frost genealogies don't give any sources. When I've checked their data against original records, I found the genealogies were accurate almost all the time. However, church records, called parish registers, didn't begin in England until 1538. Edmund and Thomasine were married by Reverend Thomas Shepard and emigrated with him. Shepard's autobiography describes his persecution by Laud. I don't know if John Frost of Hartest was Edmund's father. I believe he was because the family histories say Edmund was born in Hartest and the only birth record I found in the parish records had an Edmund whose father was John. The Hartest Local History Group also believes Edmund was born to John in Hartest on 8/28/1593. Their book Hartest: A Village History includes two JohnFrosts, a tanner who died in 1661 and a weaver who died in 1644. I don't know if these are relatives. Some Frost histories give various dates for Edmund's birth, and some say he was born in Glemsford. I read parish records transcribed in 1941, when England was being bombed regularly. I'm guessing they were done to make sure a copy survived. The handwriting in the originals is the worst I've ever seen, so there could be errors. However, I only saw one Edmund Frost born in Glemsford, a twin to John born in 1564. I read transcribed Hartest records from 1556-1635 and only found one Edmund born 8/28/1593 to John. Was Robert the son of a prominent judge? The genealogist who published the article checked original records when he could, transcribed articles when he couldn't. The NEHGS has a high standard for publication, so I give their articles a lot of credibility. Was Edmund an ordained minister or a church elder? I've read the records of the town and church of Cambridge, MA (originally called the New Towne or Newtown) which say he was one of the first two church elders. The records often refer to him as Elder Frost. The town didn't have a minister from 1668-71 so church officials including Edmund were given the responsibility for "cathechizing the youth" which meant making sure they had memorized religious material printed in Q&A format. Edmund was poor, and the church occasionally gave him money food, or other items. Robin in Maryland


General Notes (Wife)

She was not Thomazine Belgrave, who may have actally married Edward Frost.

Death date is suspiciously similar to that of Thomazine the wife of Edmund Rice. She supposedly died in Sudbury on 13 Jun 1653.


General Notes for Child Thomazine FROST

There has been alot of confusion about Thomazine's last name, parentage, and ancestry. That she was Thomazine Frost is proven by the marriage record at BurySt Mary's. That she was the daughter of Edward Frost and Thomaszine Belgrave, and ancestry of both of those individuals, is completely proven, largely through a string of wills that connect the individual members of the families involved.

THere were two Frost familes of Hartest and Glemsford, Suffolk, England. One was John Frost, a clergyman silenced by Archbishop Laud in early 1600's, had atleast two children, Edmund, b 1593 at Hartest, and m Thomasine at Hartest, m 3 to Reana, and John Frost. This marriage is often confused with that of Thomasine Frost's parents, Edward Frost and Thomasine Belgrave.

Edmund was a preaching elder and also silenced for ihs views, and foced to leave England; he migrated to CAmbrdge, MA, with first wife and son John, one of founders of First Congregational Church at Cambridge and an elder. ANd his wife died at Sudbury, 1653.Children John, Thomas, Samuel, Joseph, Deacon James, Mary, Ephrai, Thomas.

Meanwhile back in Glemsford and Hartest, William Frost of Glemsford, d 1549, m Philippa, had Roger, John the older or middle and John the younger, Henry. Roger had William, bp 1558, John, bp 1562, Henry, pg 1574, Edward, bp 1576, Henry bp 1579.

John Frost the elder of Glemsford had Wlliam b 1555, Edmund b 1564, John b 1564, Willliam b 1568, Henry b 1572, among others.

John Frost the younger of Glemsford m AnnScott, had Edwrd m Thomasine Belgrave, John b 1609? Henry bp 1568, and this family were clothiers.

Both families were quite prosperous, and I doubt whether they weren't related.

Despite the fact that Edmund served at least five times in the General Court in Boston there is no direct evidence that he was friendly or hob-nobbed with the colony's leaders. But there is indirect evidence that John Winthrop was aware of him other than as a member of the legislature. Edmund Rice married Thomasine Frost and Thomas Blower married her sister, Alice Frost.
Blower arrived in Massachusetts in 1635 but died shortly after 1639. In 1640, Nathan Lufkin of Hitcham, Suffolk, England wrote to John Winthrop in Boston that Thomas Blower owed him 24 pounds and that Edmund Rice knew about it. By this time Alice Blower had already remarried. The tone of the letter suggests that Lufkin and Winthrop were well acquainted and that Lufkin and Edmund were also. Hitcham, Stanstead, and Groton, Winthrop's old home, form a triangle about 8 or 9 miles on a side in the southwestern portion of Suffolk County. This was in the Stour River Valley that had been a major center of Puritanism for at least a generation before.
In fact the extended families of the three Frost sisters, Elizabeth (who married Henry Rice), Alice and Thomasine, were at the center of one of the largest networks of interrelated Puritans who immigrated to the Massachusetts Bay Colony. These might be important underlying facts that allowed Edmund Rice's native abilities to blossom. -Bob Rice


General Notes for Child Thomas FROST

I think I may have mistranscribed his date of death.


General Notes for Child Samuel FROST

He was a physician and a building contractor. His second wife, Elizabeth Miller, was the sister of Joseph's wife.


General Notes for Child Joseph FROST

Joseph's wife Hannah Miller was sister to Samuel's second wife.


General Notes for Child Deacon James FROST

His first wife was the mother of his son James; the rest were children of his second wife.


General Notes for Child Ephraim FROST

He had one child, Sarah, by his second wife.
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John JOHNSON and Arabella CLINTON




Husband John JOHNSON

           Born: 1564 - Hern Hill, Canterbury, Kent, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 4 Feb 1666 - Wilmington, Kent, England
         Buried: 10 Mar 1667 - Spalding, Lincoln, England


         Father: Francis JOHNSON (1518-1616)
         Mother: Elizabeth THORGOOD (1520-      )


       Marriage:  - England

   Other Spouse: Hannah THROCKMARTIN (1570-1666) - 1586 - Wilmington, Kent, England

   Other Spouse: Mrs-Jon JONSSON (      -      ) - Abt 1593 - , Holt, Rangarvalla, Iceland

   Other Spouse: Arabella (      -      )

   Other Spouse: Hannah THROCKMORTON (Abt 1610-      ) - Abt 1631 - , Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England




Wife Arabella CLINTON

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



Children

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Moses PAINE and Elizabeth COLBURN




Husband Moses PAINE

           Born:  - Tenterden, Canterbury, England
     Christened: 16 Nov 1623 - Tenterden, Kent, England
           Died: 15 Dec 1690 - Braintree, Norfolk, Mass.
         Buried: 


         Father: Moses PAINE (1581-1643)
         Mother: Elizabeth SHEAFE (1589-1632)


       Marriage: 1645




Wife Elizabeth COLBURN

           Born: 
     Christened: 
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John Marcy and Experience Colburn




Husband John MARCY

           Born: 17 Nov 1689 - Woodstock, Windham, Connecticut
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         Father: John MARCY (Abt 1662-1724)
         Mother: Sarah HADLOCK (1670-1743)


       Marriage: 14 Jan 1711-14 Jan 1712




Wife Experience COLBURN

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