Husband John Miller
Born: 16 Aug 1771 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 22 Dec 1834 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Buried: - New Garden Friends Burial Ground
Father: James Miller (1745-1809)
Mother: Jane Elliott (1748-1813)
Marriage: 25 Aug 1797-25 Aug 1798 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Wife Mary Webster
Born: 6 May 1773 - Kingwood/Quakertown MM, New Jersey
Christened:
Died: 9 Nov 1862 - London Britain, Chester, Pennsylvania
Buried: - New Garden Friends Burial Ground
Father: Joseph Webster (1743- )
Mother: Rebecca Kester (1738- )
Children
1 M Lewis Miller
Born: 11 Jun 1798 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 5 Sep 1885 - Penn TWP, Pennsylvania
Buried:
Spouse: Keziah Hutton (1800-1838)
Marr: 1 Jun 1821 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Spouse: Mary Anne Miller ( - )
2 M James Miller
Born: 31 May 1801 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 8 Aug 1824 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Buried:
3 M Joseph Miller
Born: 3 Oct 1799 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 1880
Buried:
Spouse: Elizabeth Kerns ( - )
4 M Alban Miller
Born: 3 Oct 1802 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 8 Oct 1867
Buried:
Spouse: Amy Green ( - )
5 M Samuel W. Miller
Born: 28 Sep 1803 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Sarah ( - )
6 F Rebecca Miller
Born: 17 Apr 1805 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 17 Jun 1805 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Buried:
7 M Reuben Miller
Born: 3 May 1806 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 27 Jul 1824 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Buried:
8 M John Miller
Born: 27 Aug 1807 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 31 Dec 1895
Buried:
Spouse: Lydia Orin (1804- )
Marr: prob New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
9 F Jane Miller
Born: 18 Sep 1809 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 26 Sep 1809 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Buried:
10 F Mary Webster Miller
Born: 17 Nov 1808 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 1887 - London Britain, Chester, Pennsylvania
Buried: - London Britain Quaker graveyard
Spouse: Ezra Sr. Thompson (Abt 1804-1873)
Marr: prob 1832 - prob London Britain, Chester, Pennsylvania
11 M William Miller
Born: 8 Aug 1817 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: 10 May 1818 - New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
Quiet, a-social, and intense are traits listed for every third or fourth Miller descendant. John Miller was a very quiet person, "a zealous Quaker, and a Whig of uncompromising principle". A farmer in New Garden.
It appears likely his marriage was an elopement. John Miller b 8/16/1771 m 8/25/1797 NG (I couldn't find a marriage certificate for that date in NG meeting records, though the date of the marriage is recorded there) There is mention of the marriage at his bride's meeting. She was kicked ot of her meeting for marrying John Webster (also a Quaker), before a Justice of teh Peace. She was not reconciled, though she was fully accepted in the New Garden meeting where her husband's family were leaders.
John Miller b 8/16/1771 NG m 8/25/1797 NG d 12/22/1834 He had a set of traits I have never until now seen listed in genealogies for every 3rd or 4th member or recent descendant of a family. For that matter, I have elsewhere seen peoples' personalities described in genealogies only in the half-dozen published by Dehavens. John Miller was a very quiet person, "a zealous Quaker, and a whig of uncompromising principle."
General Notes (Wife)
Birth from Kingwood/Quakertown MM record
She came from the middle of Delaware County; the marriage record had been impossible to find because the only record that exists is the one at her meeting of her being disowned by her meeting where she lived in New Jersey, for marrying John Miller of New Garden, before a Justice of the Peace.
The town where she lived was maybe 30 miles from New Garden, and a relative of hers lived near John Miller.
She was descended via her mother's people from the founders of Germantown, who were Mennonite Quakers from Krefeld, and Kaldenkirchen,Germany, near the Dutch border, and not far from Muelheim, where the Dehavens and Leverings lived. Penn, who may have been a distant cousin of the Opden graffs via an ancestor named Jasper, who was back and forth like many Protestants across teh English channel, had gone to Germany and visited both Krefeld, and Muelheim. The Dehavens and Leverings were also early settlers of Germantown.
Her family had come from New Jersey, and distant relatives researching the same family there had put the identities of both of her parents together wrong partly because her mother, Rebecca Kester, was born in Philadelphia and none of our distant Webster relatives researching in New Jersey realized tht that was even likely, it is a piece of info that I finally got from some Kastor society members. (It's in their book they're selling.) Tehre were also more Websters in that part of New Jersey than people know what to do with.
Further complicating it, the family moved every five minutes, and everyone who submitted info to Ancestral File and IGI put the trail together wrong!
It finally came together from lookups in the Quaker records from a Webster researcher, my local library (had a few of them), and several Chester County list members who own the compiled Quaker records of Delaware County and also two people with access to a handwritten partial family history in the Chester County Historical Society, and also are on the Chester County list at Rootsweb.
William Webster married Mary, were early settlers in WOodbridge, NJ. Births of eight of their children in Woodbridge Quaker records, which are in a Woodbridge and Piscataway history in my local library, birth of a ninth, Benjamin Webster of my direct line, in the Woodbridge town records, and
the Woodbride and Piscataway history says there were probably more children not registered in either place.
Some Webster researchers including people who submitted info to Ancestral File have Joseph who married Rebecca Kester son of Joseph Webster, son of William. That is the wrong Joseph. Kay Walton (Webster researcher) wrote that "The Joseph that is attributed to William and Mary married Elizabeth Shotwell and they wee members of the Kingwood meeting in Hunterdon Co, NJ. I think that Joseph is attributed to William and Mary because there doesn't seem to be another Webser in the Quaker records of a sutable age to be his father." She shows that Joseph Webster first mentioned in Kingwod MM records 8 12m 1749, Chesterfield received certifiicate from Woodbrdge for Joseph and his wife 2 7m 1742. Joseph had married Elizabeth Shotwell in 1733 at Woodbridge (18 8m 1733 intentions). Probably his son Joseph Jr who was disowned for marrying out of meeting (his wife wasn't even a Quaker) in 9 6m 1757. Meanwhile, the other JOseph, w his mother Rachel, and brother Skinner, were received on certificate from Woodbridge 10 6m 1762.
Kay argues that her judgment of Joseph Webster's identity is based on the following;
Joseph Webster who was declared out of unity in 1757 for marrying out of meeting was several years prior to the time Joseph and Rebecca married, and prior to the time that Joseph, son of Benjamin and Rachel, returned to Kingwood (1762).
The birthdate given for Joseph who married Rebecca is different than that for Joseph, son of Joseph and Elizabeth. Seems to rule out that Joseph as Rebecca's husband. The birthdate for Joseph son of Benjamin (as such) is not given in these records.
The marriage of Joseph and REbecca took place about 5 1/2 years after Joseph came to Kingwood w his mother, RAchel. (THey were received on certificate from Woodbridge w mother RAchel and brother Skinner, 10 6m 1762.
The only other Joseph in these records m Phebe Macerary, that Joseph's birth given as 22 11m 1769.
The names of JOseph's and Rebecca's children are all names from the family of Joseph son of Benjamin and RAchel. It was quite common to name the first girl after the husband's mother.
Kay writes that she has not seen proof either that RAchel who came to Kingwood from Woodbridge was married to Joseph, or that her maiden name was Skinner; she expects this is inferred from the fact that one of her sons is named Skinner.
On Mary's mother, REbecca Kester, Ancestral File identifies her as the daughter of Hermanus, married Anne Large, son of Paulus Kusters from Kaldenkirchen, Germany! This incorporates several layers of confusion.
First, Hermanus the son of Paulus who came from Germany was a good deal older, and married Sybil Conrad. The Hermanus who married Anne Large was a son of Johannes son of Paulus from Germany, as was Paul, who was actually the father of Rebecca who married Joseph Webster. Hermanus Kester and Anne Large also lived in New Jersey, and had married in New Jersey. They had the only Rebecca Webster born in New Jersey in Woodbridge or Kingwood who was the right age to be the one who married Joseph Webster. Sh was born 16 2m 1742. But this is a different birth date than that given for Rebecca when her childen are listed in the Quaker records, which is 12 12m 1738. The latter date is the date the actual Rebecca who married Joseph Webster was actually born in Philadelphia or Germantown, as per the Quaker records there, but Webster researchers looking in New Jersey didn't know that Hermanus et al Kester were the descendants of the Kuster family of Germantown and didn't know to look in Philadelphia for Rebecca's birth. It was the Castor Society who finally filled in that detail. (I have not seen the evidence yet, only had three different people look it up for me in their book they don't want to tell me too much from because they want me to buy it. Ha, ha, I'm borrowing it from a library. But I won't have it for a month.)
Notes (Marriage)
This marriage is widely cited as being on this date at New Garden, but it is not in the book of New Garden marriage certificates.
The reason for that is that Mary WEbster, who lived with her family in
Middletown, Delaware Co, was disowned by her monthly meeting for marrying John Miller before a magistrate, which town the magistrate was located in not given. The date on which she was disowned agrees exactly with the date I had for their marriage allegedly in New Garden monthly meeting except it was a full year later. It is the record of her being disowned that places her in acommunity and so establishes which family she belonged to.