Thomas King and Anne Tyce
Husband Thomas King
Born: Abt 1605 - Dorsetshire, England Christened: Died: 3 May 1676 - Marlboro, Middlesex, Massachusetts Buried:
Father: Thomas King (1580- ) Mother: Sarah Susan (1580- )
Marriage: - Dorset, England
Other Spouse: Bridget DAvis (Loker) (Abt 1613-1685) - 26 Dec 1655 - Sudbury, Massachusetts
Wife Anne Tyce
Born: Abt 1608 - Dorsetshire, England Christened: Died: 24 Dec 1642 - Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts Buried:
Children
1 F Elizabeth King
Born: 1635 - Shaftesbury, Dorset, England Christened: Died: Buried: 30 Oct 1667 - Sudbury, Middlesex, MassachusettsSpouse: Samuel Rice (1634-1685) Marr: 18 Nov 1655 - Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts
2 F Sarah King
Born: After 1625 - prob England Christened: Died: 2 Jul 1706 - Marlboro, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Nathaniel Joslin ( - ) Marr: 1656 - prob Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts
3 M Peter King
Born: After 1620 - England Christened: Died: 27 Aug 1704 - Sudbury, Massachusetts Buried:
4 F Ann (Hannah) King
Born: After 1620 - prob England Christened: Died: 18 Feb 1697-18 Feb 1698 - Marlboro, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: William Kerley ( -1684) Marr: 6 Oct 1646 - Sudbury, Massachusetts
5 F Mary King
Born: 22 Feb 1627-22 Feb 1628 - Shaftesbury, Dorsetshire, England Christened: Died: 2 Jul 1706 - Marlboro, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Thomas Rice (1625-1681) Marr: 1651 - Sudbury, Massachusetts
6 F Mercy King
Born: Abt 1638 - prob England Christened: Died: 4 Jan 1668-4 Jan 1669 - Marlborough, Middlesex, Massachusetts Buried:Spouse: Joseph Rice (1637-1711) Marr: 4 May 1658 - Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts
7 M Thomas King
Born: 4 Dec 1642 - Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts Christened: Died: 2 Jan 1642-2 Jan 1643 - Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
Thomas King was one of the petitioners who founded the town of Marlborough, Mass., in 1656. (Colonial Records of Marlborough, Mass, printed in the NEHGS Register of July 1908). The petition was dated May, 1656, and asked for a new town to be formed about 8 miles west of Sudbury, where the petitioners were living. Apparently, the town of Sudbury had become too crowded "as also God haveing given us some considerable quantity of Cattle", and the petitioners asked for a grant of eight miles square "For to make a Plantation". Among the signers were Thomas King, Edmund Rice, Edward Rice, Henry Rice, and Richard Newton. On the 14th of May, 1656, the petition was granted (Pretty quick action), except six miles square instead of eight, or in any convenient form equivalent thereunto, provided that "there bee a towne setled with Twenty or more Families within three yeares, so as an Able Ministry may bee there maintained". On the 25th of the 12th month of 1656 (Feb 1656/1657), selectmen were chosen; Thomas King and Edmund Rice were two of the five chosen. A plantation of 6000 acres was provided for the Indians, adjacent to the new town, in 1659. The new plantation was named Marlborough in 1660. On the 26th of the ninth month (November) of 1660, House lots were granted - Thomas King received 39 1/2 acres, and Edmund Rice 50 acres. Peter King received 22 acres; the son of Thomas. Thomas was selectman 6 times, and constable twice. Other than that, he effectively avoided any records, though he lived for another 16 years.
Source: www.widowmaker.com; the Edmund Rice Association Web Site
Thomas King was in New England by 1638 or 1639 when he settled in Sudbury.[1] In 1642 the town ordered that Mr. Noyes, Mr. Pendleton, Walter Haynes, John Parmenter, Jr. and Thomas King shall have power to view the river at Thomas King's, and to agree with workmen to build a cart bridge over the river.[4/8] In 1650 Thomas is shown to have owned lot 50 in the fourth, i.e. southwest, squadron of the two-mile grant.[4/203]
In 1656 he and twelve others petitioned the General Court for an eight square mile tract of land eight miles west of Sudbury, which would later become the town of Marlborough.[6/220] Thomas was very active in the town's affairs. He was elected one of the first selectmen of the plantation on Feb. 25, 1656-7[6/224] and held that office at least through 1665.[6/336,341][7//59,65,118] No town records are extant from 1665 to 1739[9] so Thomas' further service to the town is unknown. In 1661 he was also the constable[6/336] and was selected with four others to lay out all highways in town[6/341] He was again the constable in 1662.[6/341] House lots were granted to the original proprietors on Nov. 26, 1660 and Thomas received one of the larger lots at 39.5 acres.[6/227] In an inventory taken April 6, 1665 he had, in addition to the house lot, 19 3/4 acres in the second division of upland, 19 3/4 acres of first division meadows, 16 acres and two rods of second division meadows, and 19 3/4 rods of first division cedar swamp.[7/121] Thomas further received July 27th that year 5 1/4 acres, 14 rods in each of several areas in town. These included Cold Harbor meadow, the Middle meadows, and Chauncy meadows.[7/125] During the troubles of King Phillip's War, Thomas and his family were assigned to the garrison house of William Kirby.[1]
Not certain which of two or three families from England he was. He settled in Sudbury in 1638 or 1639. Probably not the Thomas King of Watertown in 1640 and 1642; that man's wife was Mary, and he died 1644.
His arrival in New England is not known but he and his wife and son Peter were of Sudbury by 1642.
There were three and probably four Thomas King's.
Thomas King of Scituate. After the death of his third wife in October 1653, he married Anne Sutcliffe. In 1660, Elizabeth Lee of Humbledon, Surrey, wife of Richard Lee, mentioned her sister Anne Collins married to Thomas King living in New England. Thomas of Scituate's Ann was the only Ann married to a Thomas King still living at that time. Anne the wife of Thomas King of Sudbury had died in 1642. This will has been used to attribute the name of Collins to Anne the wife of Thomas King of Sudbury and Marlboro, but it does not refer to her. Nor does it make much sense to think that Thomas King of Shaftesbury, had married in Dorset, a woman born in a different part of England, with no apparent explanation of how that happened offered. This information looks likely to pertain to Thomas of Scituate: He came to America in 1635 at age 31 on teh ship Blessing, arriving August at Boston, with a sister Susan aged 32. It doesn't mention his wife and children. Listed as "of Cold Norton, Essex", bound for Scituate.
Thomas King of Watertown, involved in Nashaway, came in April 1634, on the Elizabeth of Ipswich, at age 15, with teh family of John. He went to Watertown, and never left Watertown. He died there in 1644.
Thomas King the husband of Anne, it is not known when or how he arrived in Massachusetts. He settled in Sudbury, became a close friend of Edmund Rice, adn moved to Marlboro, where he died. He is probably the Thomas King, brother of Peter King the elder of Shaston (Shaftesbury), Dorset, mentioned in his will made May 30 1657, as now living in New England. His wife, Anne, was apparently Anne Tyce. I am still working on the documentation for this. Multiple people cite a will of William Tyce, in Shaftesbury in 1649, which mentions his sister Anne and her children with Thomas King. Anne the wife of Thomas King did die in 1642.
Following are my former notes, full of identity confusion.
5202. Thomas King was born about 1595 in Tarrant, Hinton, Dorset, ENG. He was christened in Jul 1596 in Tarrant, Hinton, Dorset, ENG. He signed a will on 21 Mar 1675/76. He died on 3 May 1676 in Marlborough, Middlesex Co., MA. He had his estate probated on 24 Mar 1677. His will showed a value of 383 pounds. He was in Sudbury about 1638/9 where he owned land in the 2 mile grant #50. He was granted land in Watertown in 1650. In the Indian wars of 1675 (King Phillips), he was in the household of his son-in-law William Kerley. Thomas King and Anne Collins were married about 1625 in Dorset, Eng.
Waters, Henry F., Genealogical Gleanings in England, page 1089.
Pope, Charles Henry, Pioneers of Massachusetts, page 270.
Barry, William, History of Framingham, page 156.
Holmes, Frank R., Ancestral Heads of New England Families (1620-1700), page 140.
Thomas King, is said to have been born in 1597 or 1599 in Tarrant, Hinton, Dorset, England, no source of that idea given anywhere. He came to America in 1635 at age 31 on teh ship Blessing, arriving August at Boston, with a sister Susan aged 32. It doesn't mention his wife and children. Listed as "of Cold Norton, Essex", bound for Scituate. He went first to Watertown. He was a founder of Marlborough, and was on the first board of selectmen.
Peter King, the elder, of Shaston, Dorset, gentleman, named his brother Thomas King, now dwelling in New England in his will of May 30 1657. An inspection made of the records in Shaftsbury show that some Kings of that place were Burgesses in previous times. He has sometimes been confused w the other Thomas King of Watertown who was one of those involved w Nashaway, but they wre two difft men. That Thomas King came over in 1634 and lived at WAtertown where he died and was buried in 1644 So Thomas King of Watertown was not living in 1657, and Thomas King of Sudbury is most logically who Peter King of Shaston, Dorset, was referring to.
Thomas was a founder of Marlboro, and apparently a favorite of Edmund Rice. In addition to being picked for plum positions by Edmund Rice, he had three daughters marry sons of Edmund Rice.
Shaston is the old name of Shaftbury or Shaftsbury, Dorset. Tarrant Hinton is nearby.
Thomas King of Sudbury and Marlboro had a son Peter, said to have been man of some prominence in Sudbury, a deacon of the church, a rep to Conial Court in 1689-90. Peter took his deceased sister Elizabeth Rice's son Samuel to raise as his own at the death and by Will of his father Samuel Rice, and this son was known as Samuel Rice "alias" King. Peter had no sons that are known of.
Thomas King (Sr?) surveyed the roads and supervised the chopping of trees, Rice and Ward selectmen ea year for six yrs, and Thomas King served as selectman six times, constable twice, timber keeper and higway supervisor. Died at Marlborough around 6/20/1676 (will date), in Middlesex Co Records. His wife's name Bridgett. Mentioned Thomas and Johshua Rice his three grand children Mary Rice a
daughter.
Thomas King the widower married 26 Dec 1655, widow Mrs. Bridget (Loker) Davis. He owned land in the fourth squadron of the two-mile grant, his lot being no. 50. ...
He was one of the petitioners (the Whip-suffrage planters) for the plantation of Marlboro, in 1656. From Puritan Village The Formation of a New England Town, by Sumner Powell, we learn that John Ruddick (leader of the Marlborough group) was given more liberty in forming his town than Peter Noyes (leader of the Sudbury group) had been granted. The General Court required that there be "twenty or thirty families" together with a minister, and that these families had to settle in the new grant within three years. Except for the fact that a committee was appointed to stake out the new town, the rest was left to Ruddock, Rice, and their young citizens. They knew how to proceed. They had learned the necessity of order.
Nineteen new names were added. Some had served as town officers, some had not. But they wree considered worthy. Fourteen men who had expressed a "straightness" in Sudbury were on the list.
In the fall of 1660, at a full town meeting of "inhabitants and proprietors", athe frist land distribution was made. Ruddock and Rice had been granted a town plot much larger than that of Sudbury, six miles square containing 24,000 acres. and they had a complicated task of distribution. Their inhabitants were 38 in number, and atleast half of them were the sons of ten leading Sudbury families: Rice, Ward, King, Goodenow, Bent, Newton, Maynard, How,Kerley, and Johnsons.
Thomas King came to America in 1635 at age 31 on the ship Blessing, arriving August at Boston, with a sister Susan, aged 32. Listed as "of Cold Norton, Essex", bound for Scituate. (Is this the right Thomas King?)
He went first to Watertown and some three years later moved to
the new settlement at Sudbury. He was one of the thirteen petitioners in 1656 for the Whipsuppenicke Plantation, which was incorporated as "Marlborow" on May 31, 1660, when he was chosen one of the seven members of the first board of selectmen of which Edmund was the chairman.
Little is known of his first wife Anne, save that she died at Sudbury, 1642. He was married, second, at Sudbury on Dec. 26, 1655, to Bridget, widow of Robert Davis. She died at Marborough on March 11, 1685. There is no record of the death of Thomas King in Sudbury or Marlborough but his will signed at Marlborough 12.1.1675 and proved 20.4.16176, shows the approximate time of his death. As he added a codicil on the 15th day of the first mo. 1676. The inventory taken 24.1.1676 totalled £295.10.00, with houses and lands in Marlborough at £200 and lands in Sudbury at £60. In it he mentions "Ann Carly, Mary Rice and Sarah Jocelin, my 3 daughters".
Noted as Ann Sufleffe in another record
Thomas [BO: King :BO] immigrated to New England from Ipswich "in
the Elizabeth of Ipswich, Master, William [BO: Andrews, :BO] the last
of April 1634", at the age of 15 with the family of John [BO: Barnard.
:BO] He went first to Watertown and some three years later moved to
the new settlement at Sudbury. He was one of the thirteen petitioners
in 1656 for the Whipsuppenicke Plantation, which was incorporated as
"Marlborow" on May 31, 1660, when he was choser one of the seven
members of the first board of selectmen of which Edmund [BO: Rice :BO]
was the chairman.
Nothing is known of his first wife Anne, save that she died at
Sudbury, 1642. He was married, second, at Sudbury on Dec. 26, 1655, to
Bridget, widow of Robert [BO: Davis. :BO] She died at Marborough on
March 11, 1685. There is no record of the death of Thomas [BO: King
:BO] in Sudbury or Marlborough but his will signed at Marlborough
12.1.1675 and proved 20.4.16176, show the approximate time of his
death. As he added a codicil on the 15th day of the first mo. 1676.
The inventory taken 24.1.1676 totalled 295.10.00lbs, with houses and
lands in Marlborough at 200lbs and lands in Sudbury at 60lbs. In it
he mentios "Ann [BO: Carly, :BO] Mary [BO: Rice :BO] and Sarah [BO:
Jocelin, :BO] my 3 daughters.
"Middlesex Probate, Docket 13334", Vol. 5, pgs 23-26
It is not known where in England Thomas and Anne came from. However there are some possible clues. On May 30, 1658 Peter King of Shaston (i.e. Shaftsbury), Dorset wrote a will and mentioned his brother Thomas King, "now dwelling in New England". It has been put forth that this Peter was probably the brother of Thomas. Also in 1660 Elizabeth Lee of Hambledon, Surrey, wife of Richard Lee, gave a legacy of ten pounds to Ann King, wife of Thomas King of New England.[2/82] This bequest is indicative of a family relationship between Elizabeth and Ann. The trouble is that Ann died 18 years before Elizabeth made her will. There may have been another Thomas King in New England who had a wife named Ann. In fact, Thomas King of Scituate married Anne Sutliffe sometime after the death of his third wife in October 1653.[5]
The last name of Thomas' wife Anne is given as Collins in [5], but the source of that information is not clear. The name was not known in [2]. As such, the reader should take the name with a grain of salt.
Bridgwater LEASE of West Pitts, Northfields, Mathews Field, part of the Salt Lands, in Bridgwater, Peter King of Shaston, Dorset, Mercer, and Jerome Barnes of Gillingham. 35 lines, very neatly written, on vellum, size 12" x 22". Lacks wax seal from tag. 1682. £38.00
¶ Refers to intended marriage of Peter King and Elizabeth Barnes.
(Add for Somsersetshire historical documents)
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:NnLHj6VZvpIJ:worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi%3Fop%3DGET%26db%3Djhc939%26id%3DI9428+%22Peter+King%22+%22Thomas+King%22+Shaston&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3
This man confuses THomas of Scituate, Thomas of Watertown, and Thomas of Sudbury and Marlboro, and invents a third wife Anne.
from Bonds Watertown Families:
p. 326. KING.--9th line, for 1646, read 1644. This "young, resolute, and confident"
Thomas King, appears to have been the pioneer in the settlement of Rutland [then
called Nashaway]. From an excursion thither, with Sholan, an Indian chief, he returned
and induced the hardy and adventurous John Prescott and others, to go and commence
a settlement there. He and Symonds, built a trading-house; but he died in
Watertown, before he had moved his family thither. His Inventory renders it very
probable that he was a trader in Watertown. [See Willard's Centennial Address, at
Lancaster, and Geneal. Reg. viii., p. 56.]
GJR-was this "our" Thomas King??
following from
Genesis of the White Family
Author: Emma Siggins White
Call Number: R929.2 qW582
A connected record of the White Family, beginning in 900 at the time of its Welsh origin when the name was Wynn, and tracing the family into Ireland and England. Representatives of the English branch emigrated to America in 1638. This book also includes
Bibliographic Information: White, Emma Siggins. Genesis of the White Family. Kansas City, MO: Tiernan-Dart Printing Co., 1920.
page 314
KING.
"Peter King the elder, of Shaston, Dorset, gentleman, 30 May, 1658, proved 9 December, 1658.
"To be buried in the chancel of St. Peter's Church in Shaston.
"To my son Joseph and Grizell, his wife, all the right and title I have in a tenement in the parish of Stower Provest, etc. To son Joseph, two hundred pounds. To my sister, Frances Haine, twenty pounds. To my sister, Grace Lush, ten pounds. To my brother, THOMAS KING, now dwelling in New England, ten pounds. To my kinswoman, Frances Lush, fifty pounds. My grandchildren, Joseph King and Mary King. My cousin, Thomas Lush, and his children. My son Peter to be sole executor and Joseph Dade, my brother-in-law, and Thomas Dunford, my kinsman, overseers.
"Thomas Durnford, one of the witnesses. Wooton, 642."
(Ref.: Waters' Genealogical Gleanings in England, p. 1089.)
"Elizabeth Lee, of Hembeldon, Co. Southton. My now husband, Richard Lee; to Ann King, wife of THOMAS KING, of New England, of Westweltringe or Westreitringe Parish, ten pounds.
"To Henry Fleshmonger, Senior, fower pounds. To John Courtnell fower pounds. To Thomas Courtnell's three children, Elizabeth, Margaret, and Ann Courtnell, 20 pounds apiece in gold. To Richard Lee, son of Richard Lee, my wedding ring which he gave me.
"To my brother, Thomas Collens, the use of 20 pounds. Kinsman
Thomas Courtnell, executor." her
"Pec. Ct. of Bishop Waltham, "Elizabeth Lee.
"Winchester Reg. 22 Mar., 1660. mark."
(Ref.: Waters' Genealogical Gleanings in England, p. 1237.
Thomas King, the immigrant ancestor, was b. about 1600, in England, probably at Shaston, Dorsetshire. He settled in Sudbury as early as 1642. Ann, his first wife, d. December 24, 1642. (As no other Ann King, wife of Thomas King, is to be found in the early records of New England, she is said to be the Ann King mentioned in the above will of Elizabeth Lee, and was probably her sister Ann Collens or Collins.) Thomas King m., second, December 26, 1655, Bridget (Loker) Davis, widow of Robert Davis. She d. a widow, March 1, 1685.
(Ref.: Middlesex County Genealogies, p. 130.)
Mary King, dau. of Thomas and Ann (Collins) King. m., about 1650, Thomas Rice.
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Thomas and Ann King
Husband:
Thomas King Born: in England, circa 1600 (Thomas' brother lived in Shaston, Dorsetshire, England, and it is possible that Thomas may have been born there or have lived there).
Died: in Marlborough, MA before 1685.
Parents: Unknown.
First Wife:
Ann ----- Born: in England.
Died: in Sudbury, MA 24 December 1642 (20 days after the birth of her son, Thomas).
Parents: Unknown.
Second Wife:
Bridget Davis Widow of: Robert Davis.
Died: in Marlborough, MA 1 March 1685.
Married: 26 December 1655.
There is an English will written by Elizabeth, wife of Richard Lee, an abstract of which is given in the General Registry for 1896, page 529, which mentions the wife of Thomas King, in New England, as Ann. This will was written after the death in 1642 of Thomas' first wife, Ann. (William R. Cutter, "Historic Homes and Places and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Families of Middlesex County", p. 130,) Therefore, it is possible to assume that Thomas might have had a second wife, also named Ann, before his marriage to Bridget Davis in 1655. If so, this Ann was Ann Collins before her marriage.
Thomas King came to America and settled in Sudbury, MA about 1642. He was one of the petitioners organized by John Ruddock to establish a new community which later separated from Sudbury. The new settlement became "Whip Suffrage" and finaly "Marlborough" in honor of a town in Ruddock's old English County of Wiltshire. Thomas King was one of the selectmen elected in 1657 by the proprietors.
Thomas and his first wife, Ann King, had three children:
Elizabeth, b. England, ca. 1635; m. Samuel Rice.
Peter, b. England ca. 1636; died in Marlborough, MA 27 August 1704.
Thomas, b. Sudbury, MA 4 Dec. 1642; d. probably in Sudbury, MA 1645.
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Janice ([email protected]) provided some source material on the Thomas King's;
Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700.
p.439
King, Thomas1 (ca 1600-1676) & 1st wife, Ann [?Collins] (-1642); ca 1626? Sudbury
p.440
King, Thomas1 (ca 1600-1676) & 2nd wife, Bridget (Loker) Davis (?1613-1685) widow of
Robert Davis; m. Thomas King Dec 26, 1655; Sudbury/Marlborough.
Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth
Subject - King - Source - Savage Dictionary
THOMAS, Sudbury, and Lancaster, by w. Ann, wh. d. 24
Dec. 1642, had Thomas, b. 4 Dec. 1642, d. 3 Jan. 1645. The f.
also, d. soon, for his inv. was tak. by Capt. John Coolidge and Hugh
Mason, 23 Apr. foll. Possib. he was that youth of 15, wh. came from
Ipswich at the same time, in 1634, with the other Thomas a few yrs.
older, but in a differ. ship, the Elizabeth.
THOMAS, Watertown 1640,
prob. in the Frances from Ipswich, 1634, aged 19, came with so many,
wh. sat down at that place, but first was, prob. at Hampton; by w. Mary
had Thomas, b. 6 Mar. 1641; Mary, 2 Feb. 1643; and d. 7 Dec. 1644
His wid. m. 9 Mar. 1645, James Cutler. THOMAS, perhaps s. of the
preced. in 1676 was of Marlborough. THOMAS, Scituate, came in the
Blessing, from London, 1635, aged 21, in comp. with William Vassall,
unit. with the ch. 25 Feb. 1638, but did not rem. next yr. with the
pastor and his many friends; by w. Sarah had Rhoda, b. 11 Oct. 1639;
George, 24 Dec. 1642, wh. it is thot. d. young; Thomas, 21 June 1645;
Daniel, 4 Feb. 1648; Sarah, 24 May 1650; and John, 30 May 1652,
d. in few wks.; and his w. d. 6 June aft. He next m. 31 Mar. 1653,
Jane, wid. of Elder William Hatch, wh. d. 8 Oct. foll. had third w. Ann;
but ch. of the first w. only are heard of; was Rul. Elder, and d. 1691;
his will is of this date. Rhoda m. 8 Oct. 1656, at Boston, John Rogers
of S. THOMAS, Scituate, s. of the preced. was a deac. had two ws. one
prob. Mary, d. of the first William Sprague of Hingham, wh. must have
been sec. w. for in 1669 he m. Elizabeth d. of Thomas Clap of S. He had
sev. ch. of wh. Daniel was of Marshfield; and Sarah m. Elisha Bisby, jr.
says Deane. In the same sh. with him came Susanna, aged 30, wh. may
have been aunt.
THOMAS, Sudbury, m. 26 Dec. 1655, Bridget Davis.
THOMAS, Taunton, d. 30 Mar. 1713, aged 70, says gr.stone. He may
be that Weymouth inhab. wh. by w. Mary had John, b. 29 Aug. 1670;
Mary, 12 June 1673; and, perhaps, bad ch. aft. rem. to T. THOMAS,
Hatfield and Hartford, br. of Benjamin, m. 17 Nov. 1683, Abigail, d. of
Jedediah Strong, had Thomas, b. at Northampton, 3 Dec. 1684, d.
young; Abigail, 1687; and Mary, 1691, both at Hatfield; beside
Thomas; and Robert; both at Hartford, where, aft. d. of his first w.
1689, he m. 1690, Mary, d. of Robert Webster, wh. d. 27 Sept. 1706.
He had third w. and d. 26 Dec. 1711, and his wid. d. 2 Jan. foll.
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If Thomas King had eight children, than one is not listed among his known children. This is pointed out in the Mary and John article.
Mary and John article - 18 (2), pp 92 - 93. Has will of Peter King of SHaston, Dorset, for which he cites Waters, Henry F. Genealogical Gleanings in England. Vol. 2. p 1089 and 1237, 1091.
Will of Peter King of Shaston (Shaftesbury), Dorset, dated 30 May 1650, proved 9 Dec 1658 (PCC 642 Wooton) (Waters - p.1089)
To be bur. St. Peter's church in Shaston.
To son Joseph and his wife, Grizell, land in parish of Stower Provost, Dorset.
To sister Francis Haine - 20 pounds.
To sister Grace Lush 10 pounds.
To brother "Tomas King now dwelling in New England - 10 pounds.
To kinswoman, Frances Lush - 50 pounds.
To grandchildren, Joseph King and Mary King.
To cousin Thomas Lush and his children.
Overseers; son Peter, brother in law Joseph Dade, kinsman Thomas Dunford. Executor son Peter.
Peter King's will said he was bo be buried in the chancel of St. Peter's Church, Shaftesbury, Dorset (which means he had some wealth). He mentioned his tenement in Stouer Provost.
Waters p 1237 mentions that Elizabeth Lee of Hambldon, Surrey, wife of Richard Lee, gave in 1660, a legacy of ten pounds to Anne King, wife of Thomas King of New England of Westweltringe parish. But Thomas King's wife Anne died 1642.
Will of Elizabeth Lee of Hambledon, Co Southton (Surrey), dated 22 Mar 1660, (Waters, p 1237)
My now husband, Richard Lee.
To Ann King, wife of Thomas of New England of Westweltringe or Westreitringe parish, 10 pounds.
To Henry Fleshmonger, Sr., 4 pounds.
To Elinor Collens, dau. of Thomas Collens, 4 pounds.
To Thomas Courtnells three children, Elizabeth, Margaret and Anne Courtnell, 20 a piece in gold.
To Richard Lee, son of Richard Lee my wedding ring which he gave me.
To my brother Thomas Collens the use of 20 pounds.
Kinsman Thomas Courtnell, executor.
From Mary and John 22 (4);
Pope (p 271) says Thomas King was in Sudbury MA in 1642 and his English origins were revealed in the will of his brother, Peter King of Shaston (Shafesbury), above). Reference: Genealogical Gleanings in Englad, Henry Waters,1901, p 1089.
The will of William Tyce - see Anne Tyce
Thomas King's 8th child may possibly have been Walter, bapt 10 Mar 1638, St. Peter's, Shaftesbury, son of Thomas Kinge, (online baptism records of St. Peter's, Shaftesbury)
General Notes (Wife)
From the will of Peter King brother of Thomas, which I finally found on the British Office of Public Records web site, it is From the will of Peter King brother of Thomas, which I finally found on the British Office of Public Records web site, it is actually not clear whether Anne Tyce was the wife of Thomas King of New England. Anne Tyce and the family of Thomas King in New England are actually mentioned as if they were mutually exclusive. It is, however, quite clear that his wife was not Anne Collins; she has been proven to have been from eastern England and married to a different Thomas King in New England.
Anne who married Thomas King is my most distant known female line ancestor. She is the founder of my mitochondrial lineage in this country. She was probably but not necessarily from Shaftesbury. Thomas King's brother Peter married off his son to the daughter of a business associate in a town some 30 miles away.
Mitochondrial DNA - I had my complete sequence done at both Argus, and Family Tree DNA, with identical results. SMGF got the same HVR1 and HVR2 results.
HVR1 and HVR2 - 16519C, 263G, 309.1C, 315.1C.
This set of mutations is extremely common and, +/- a C at 309, is a third to half of haplogroups H1, H3, H6, and several less common H subclades. It is sometimes found outside of haplogroup H. These are actually mutations that nearly everyone has; it is that outside of haplogroup H people almost always have more mutations than that.
309.1C represents the low end of a count of cytosine molecules in a string. This number changes so rapidly that people related within 400 years may have no mutation at 309, have 309.1C, or have 309.1C and 309.2C.
Note that haplogroup H and some of its subclades are defined by mutations in the coding region and often cannot be correctly arrived at by testing HVR1 and HVR2. Some genealogical genetic testing companies will guess haplogroup H or even H1 (with an even chance of being wrong), based on the fact that this set of mutations is far more common in haplgroup H than elsewhere, and because genealogical genetic testing companies want to sell the less expensive HVR1 and HVR2 tests. At one time researchers were making a considerable amount out of how much one can learn from those markers alone. (Probably three quarters of the western European populaton can learn enough from HVR1 and HVR2 alone.)
My coding region mutations are:
750G, 1438G, 4769G, 8860G, 15326G - which collectively define haplogroup H, and 3010A, which defines haplogroup H1. Note that haplogroup H and some of its subclades are defined by mutations in the coding region and often cannot be correctly arrived at by testing HVR1 and HVR2. Because of ice age founding effects and some adaptive advantage that ahs caused haplogroup H to steadily supplant its genetic competition since Neolithic times, 70% of the people of western Europe are haplogroup H, and the most common subclade is H1. People who are not H1 cannot be related to me, even if they have the same HVR1 and HVR2 mtuations as I do. A complete mitochondrial sequence, or the cheaper H deep clade test offered by Family Tree DNA, can tell if you are H1 or not. H1 dominates haplogroup H, which means that maybe a third or half of all haplogroup H people are H1.
I also have two coding region mutations that may be unique to my female lineage, though since not all that many people have had complete mitochondrial sequences done, if a considerable number of people shared these mutations it might not be known. These are 4763A and 5309G. Both are previously unreported in Genbank and the literature. People who share these two mutations are likely to be related to me. Both are protein changing mutations; they alter the structure of the protein produced by the NADH subunit 2 gene. Anne's female line descendants often live into their 80's and 90's, and one physically active man reached age 101 in good health; but in my line they have a real propensity to die of cerebral atherosclerosis, often causing progressive mental disability as well as strokes. There seems to be variation of 40 years in when this condition develops. In my own lineage, the possibility that there is some tendency to Alzheimers, which can be caused by mitochondrial mutations, has not been properly ruled out. The last person to develop disabling senility did so just before the diagnosis of Alzheimers became available, though she never lost track of who she was or who was with her.
Because of ice age founding effects and some adaptive advantage that ahs caused haplogroup H to steadily supplant its genetic competition since Neolithic times, 70% of the people of western Europe are haplogroup H, and as above, the most common subclade is H1. H1 is not the oldest of the H clades. Some of its advantage in the population is due to ice age founder effects in southwestern Europe. However, grave studies show that haplogroup H in general has made consistent gains relative to other clades over time, since the Neolithic (dawn of agriculture around 8000 BC). This suggests an adaptive advantage. The only clue to what adaptive advantage is that one study in England found that among people with life threatening septicemia, people who were haplogroup H were twice as likely to survive as anybody else. The function of mitochondria is to make most of the body's energy, and so far as is known, it's all they know how to do.
The elder of the two cave skeletons from Cheddar Gorge, in Somersetshire, which dates to 7,000 BC, was tested for HVR1 only, excluding the region that includes 16519C, and no mutations were found. That means that this skeleton probably shared my haplotype, though not necessarily. For instance, H2a2, which includes the Cambridge Reference Sequence that has no mutations at all, and has about five known exact matches, seems to be concentrated in East Anglia. Sharing this haplotype does not mean that this skeleton was haplogroup H1, though H1 and H3 are known to have become established in the population of southwestern Europe as the result of ice age founder effects, and this skeleton is more likely to have been H1 or H3 than something else. Cheddar Gorge is about 30 miles from Shaftesbury, and the odds that someone living in that area in 1630 had ancestors who lived in the same area 9,000 years ago are actually quite good. The Puritan migration to New England was dominated by people of male line Saxon and Scandinavian ancestry, but female lineages of western Europe have proven to tend to have been in western Europe much longer than male lineages. Successive waves of invaders from a generally eastern direction apparently married or atleast had children by local women. A good historical argument has been made that Saxons (and Scandinavians) remained a distinct group within English society as opposed to the British population. Perhaps that as well was more true of male than female lineages.
On the other hand, H1, H3, and H6 all originated in western Asia or the Middle East, well before the last ice age. They probably spread westward from Eastern Europe, across central Europe, with a very sophisticated culture. The 16519C, 263G, 315.1C haplotype originated there as well. It is not necessarily true that Anne's female line ancestors had been in southern England for 9,000 years, nor that they spent the last ice age in southern France or northern Spain. Waves of migration arrived in England with the Neolithic megalith culture that was based in Spain and southwestern France, and with the Celts from central Europe, northern France and the Lowlands.
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Anne died shortly after their arrival in Sudbury, following the birth of her seventh child. The infant died a few days later.
She is variously said to have been born in 1608/9 in Dunston, Dorset, England, born in Dunston, England, born in Dunston, London, England, .
Frank William Bouley III, [email protected], says she may have been Anne Tyce teh daughter of William Tyce, because of the will of William Tyce, leaving a grant to his sister Anne and the children of Thomas King; he says to see Torrey p 439. No other information.
Frank says if she was Anne Collins, see Planters of the Commonwealth (1620-40) by Charles Edward Banks, p 164.
Journalist Russ Spooner, who has Thomas King b 24 Feb 1603 at Cold Norton, Essex, England, gives no contact information on his web site. He says that little is known of his first wife, Anne, and that she is "noted as Ann Sufleffe in another record". He gives no source for that idea, and it appears nowhere else on the Internet. (Anne Sutleffe was actually the fourth wife of Thomas King of Scituate, and this was actually the Anne Collins identified in her sister's will as married to Thomas King now living in New England.)
Some have her parents, Henry Collins and Maude Whittaker or Whitacker, married on 25 Apr 1608 in St. Dunstan, Stepney, London, England. One person even has parents for Henry Collins, though no birth information for him; no clue where she got it.
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=timothybidleman&id=I48777
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[Simmons.FBK]
A different version of the same site by [email protected] has
You may find this interesting. I had Thomas King and Anne Collins, but
on some website I found the following information: Thomas King was
married to Anne Tice. She was thought to be Anne Collins, d/o Henry
Collins + Maude Whittacre, but new info has come in about her. She was
mentioned in the will of William Tyce in Shaftsbury 1649 as his sister
and mentioning the children of her and Thomas King. Source "Mary +
John" 18 (2) p. 92.
I have this info on them:
Thomas King 1605 Tarrant, Dorset, Eng. d. 5/3/1676 Marlborough MA m (1)
1624 Shaftsbury, Dorset, England Anne Tice 1610 Shaftsbury, Dorset,
England d. 12/24/1642 Sudbury, MA. He m. (2) Bridget Locker 12/2/1655.
I have only 3 ch listed for Thomas and Anne (but probably have others in
my files):
Peter King 1628 m. Sarah ?
Mary King 1629 m. Thomas Rice
Elizabeth King 1635 m. Samuel Rice (s/o Edmund Rice and Thomasine Frost)
Eliz. is mine, but she died 2 weeks after giving birth to Samuel Rice
Jr. Her husband gave the baby to Eliz's brother Peter King who adopted
him, making him Samuel Rice King, and he's my ancestor.
Here is the source of the notion that Anne's name was Collins. It is clearly based on confusion of Thomas of Scituate, who was actually married to the Anne of the will below, and Thomas of Sudbury and Marlboro.
Ref.: Waters' Genealogical Gleanings in England, p. 1237.
Thomas King, the immigrant ancestor, was b. about 1600, in England, probably at Shaston, Dorsetshire. He settled in Sudbury as early as 1642. Ann, his first wife, d. December 24, 1642. (As no other Ann King, wife of Thomas King, is to be found in the early records of New England, she is said to be the Ann King mentioned in the above will of Elizabeth Lee, and was probably her sister Ann Collens or Collins.) Thomas King m., second, December 26, 1655, Bridget (Loker) Davis, widow of Robert Davis. She d. a widow, March 1, 1685.
(Ref.: Middlesex County Genealogies, p. 130.)
Mary King, dau. of Thomas and Ann (Collins) King. m., about 1650, Thomas Rice.
There is an English will written by Elizabeth, wife of Richard Lee, an abstract of which is given in the General Registry for 1896, page 529, which mentions the wife of Thomas King, in New England, as Ann. This will was written after the death in 1642 of Thomas' first wife, Ann. (William R. Cutter, "Historic Homes and Places and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Families of Middlesex County", p. 130,) Therefore, it is possible to assume that Thomas might have had a second wife, also named Ann, before his marriage to Bridget Davis in 1655. If so, this Ann was Ann Collins before her marriage.
Anne Collins was born in 1608 in Dunston, ENG. She died on 24 Dec 1642 in Sudbury, Middlesex Co., MA. Was Anne Collins really Anne Tyce the daughter of William Tyce? It is possible because of will of William Tyce leaving grant to sister Anne and children of Thomas King. Children were:
Charles Edward Banks, The Planters of the Commonwealth; A Study of the Emigrants and Emigration in Colonial Times: to which are added Lists of Passengers to Boston and to the Bay Colony; the Ships which brought them; their English Homes, and the Places of their Settlement in Massachusetts 1620-1640, page 164. (1860), page 189.
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8183. Anne Collins
Name: Secondhand from the database canney on Rootsweb, the will of Elizabeth Lee, of Hambledon, county Southton (would that be Surrey?) mentioned Ann King, wife of Thomas King of New England, and also mentions her brother Thomas "Collens", and also
the fact that her "now husband" was Richard Lee, inferring that she had been previously married. This will was proved in 1660 or 1661, so apparently Elizabeth Lee did not know that Ann King had died in 1642.
Name: "Sudbury Records", Register of April, 1863.
Name: Anne's maiden name is not known for sure. There are two wills, excerpts of which I've read. 1) The will of William Tyce, of Shaftesbury, Dorset, dated July 15, 1649- which is after Anne died. William refers to her as "my sister, Anne Tice,
living in New England or elsewhere..." He goes on to mention her children by Thomas King, "being in number eight..." 2) The will of Elizabeth Lee, of Hambledon (probably the Hambledon that is 15 miles east of Southampton, Dorset) which
mentions Ann King, wife of Thomas King of New England,and also mentions her (elizabeth's) brother Thomas Collens, and also the fact that she was the wife of RIchard Lee, her "now husband's" name, inferring that she had previously been married
to a different man. Her will was proved in 1660, so again, after Anne died. Neither will writer had been informed that Anne died in 1642. I've read that Anne died in childbirth. So, one of these wills indicates that Anne's maiden name was
Tice, or Tyce, and the other Collins. There were more than one Thomas King in New England at the time, which complicates matters. The Tyce will is from the database newengland on Rootsweb, and the Lee will is from the database canney.
From Search for teh Passengers of the Mary and John, Vol 18, Part 2. pp 92-93.
Will of William Tyce of Motcombe, Dorset, dated 15 Jul 1649, proved 24 Aug 1649 (Waters - p 1024)(PCC 127 Fairfax)
I was born at Mocombe, Dorset (20 miles NE of Yeovil and 1 mile NW of Shaftesbury).
To eldest sister Mary Tice - 100 pounds.
To sister Anne Tice living in New England or elsewehre, or to her posterity, 50 pounds.
To children of Thomas King, "being in number eight" - 40 shillings.
To a girl born since named Susan Horder, 20 shillings.
To the poor of the parish of Motcum (Motcombe), Dorset, 5 pounds.
To Mr. Drant, minister thereof, 50 shillings, if dead to his successor.
To my mother's kindred, if any living.
My cousin William Mojar.
My brother in law's two sons, Walter Tice the eldest, Peter Tice the youngest.
My friends at Umbra.
My cousin John Crouch
Others (some residing in India).
Reference: Genealogical Gleanings in England, by Henry Waters, 1901, p 1024.
Note: William "Tyce" stated that he was born in Motcombe,Dorset (1 mi NW of Shaftesbury). Motcombe parish records and Bishop's Transcripts not on Salt Lake City films. Again, Anne King died in 1642 but William Tyce indicates he lost track of her. BWS.
He indicates he had lost track of Anne, so he might not have known if she died in 1642.
Actual text from Waters, Genealogical Gleanigns in England (just the will)
William Tyce, 15 July 1649, proved 24 August 1649. To my eldest sister Mary Tice one hundred puonds. To my sister Anne Tice living in New England or elsewhere, or to her posterity fifty pounds. To the children of Thomas King, being in number eight, forty shillings. Unto girl born since named Susan Horder twenty shillings. To the poor of the parish of Motcum (Motcombe, Dorset) five pounds. To Mr. Drant, minister thereof, fifty shillings, if dead to his successor. My mother's kindred, if any living. My cousin William Mojar. My brother in law's two sons, Walter Tice the eldest, Peter Tice the youngest. My friends at Umbra. My cousin John Crouch. Others (some residing in India). I the said William Tice was born at Motcome in Dorset. Fairfax, 127 (A reference to the Pregogative Court)
Image of the will from the Prerogative Court, downloaded from the British National Archives, Public Record Office web site; it describes sister Anne Tyce and Thomas King's children exactly as above, and gives no apparent details on the kin of his mother, though there is a long list of people and bequests. It actually says to Anne Tice living in England or elsewhere or to her "poston". I read Susan Horder's name as Gordow. The document is hard to read. The document lists "Anne Tice living in England or elsewhere or to her (probably posterity), followed by the bequest to the eight children of Thomas King.
It is not clear here that Thomas King was either in New England, since he is not specifically said to be in New England; nor the husband of Anne Tyce. It looks as though William Tyce may not have known whether his sister married or had children. On the other hand, it is not clear why Thomas King and his children are mentioned at all. Probably William Tyce was related to this Thomas King in some way. I can't find evidence of another contemporary Thomas King in Shaftesbury, and if there were one he most likely was not of teh same economic status as William Tyce, while Peter King the brother of Thomas King in New England was, and someone suggested to me that possibly Anne Tyce and posterity were listed seperately in order to cover all bases since she might have more heirs than the children of her husband. Also, it was unusual for single women to emigrate to New England without family members unless they were servants, and the sister of William Tyce would not have been a servant, so unlikely her brother did not know who she had married.
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