Ancestors of Kathleen Lowe William Tuttle and Elizabeth

Ancestors of Kathleen Lowe William Tuttle and Elizabeth



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William Tuttle and Elizabeth




Husband William Tuttle




           Born: 24 Dec 1607 - Ringstead, N, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 16 Jun 1673
         Buried: 


         Father: Simon (Symon) Tuttle (1560-1630)
         Mother: Isabel Wells (1565-Abt 1635)


       Marriage: 1629-1630




Wife Elizabeth

           Born: 1613
     Christened: 
           Died: 30 Dec 1684
         Buried: 


         Father: Edward Mathews (1592-1612)
         Mother: Elizabeth Nashe (1592-      )





Children
1 M Joseph Tuttle

           Born: 22 Nov 1640 - New Hven, Connecticut
     Christened: 
           Died: Sep 1690 - East Haven, Connecticut
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Hannah Munson (1648-1695)
           Marr: 2 May 1667 - New Haven, Connecticut



2 F Sarah Tuttle

           Born: Apr 1642 - New Haven, Connecticut
     Christened: 
           Died: 17 Nov 1676
         Buried: 
         Spouse: John Slauson (      -      )
           Marr: 22 Nov 1663



3 F Mary Tuttle

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: William Fredericks (      -      )



4 M John Tuttle

           Born: 1631 - Ringstead, Northamptonshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Catharina Lane (      -      )
           Marr: 8 Nov 1653 - Milford



5 F Ann (Hannah ) Tuttle

           Born: 1633
     Christened: 
           Died: 1696
         Buried: 
         Spouse: John Pantry (      -      )
           Marr: 1649
         Spouse: Thomas Wells Jr (      -      )



6 F Ann (Hannah) Tuttle

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Joshua Judson (      -      )
         Spouse: John Hurd Jr (      -      )



7 M Thomas Tuttle

           Born: 1635
     Christened: 
           Died: 19 Oct 1710
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Hannah Powell (      -      )
           Marr: 25 May 1660



8 M Jonathan Tuttle

           Born: 2 Jul 1637 - Charlestown, Massachusetts
     Christened: 
           Died: 2 May 1676
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Rebecca Bell (      -      )



9 M David Tuttle

           Born: 7 Apr 1639
     Christened: 
           Died: 1693
         Buried: 



10 F Elizabeth Tuttle




           Born: 9 Nov 1645
     Christened: 
           Died: 1688
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Richard Edwards (      -      )
           Marr: 19 Nov 1667. (Divorced)



11 M Simon Tuttle

           Born: 1647
     Christened: 
           Died: 1719
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Abigail Beach (      -1722)



12 M Benjamin Tuttle

           Born: bef 19/29/1648 - New Haven, Ct
     Christened: 
           Died: 13 Jun 1677
         Buried: 



13 F Mercy Tuttle

           Born: 27 Apr 1650
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Samuel Brown (      -      )
           Marr: 2 May 1667




General Notes (Husband)

I had William as two separate people;

Jacobus gives dates that cause him to appear as a different person:
William b abt 1609, d New Haven, CT, 1673, m Elizabeth, b Entland abt 1609-12, d New Haven 12/30/1684 aged 76 (gravestone). Settled in Boston MA where his wife joined the church 1636. He moved to New Haven in 1639, early enough to be an initial signer of the agreemet that created it.

Baptismal record gives 1609 date. Not clear how birth date known. Quite a number of web sites ID Elizabeth Mathews, none of them can produce a source of that idea. I am suspicious because Elizabeth Mathews married the much earlier William Tuttle who was sheriff and lord mayor in Devonshrie, who was the daughter of a Welsh aristocrat and had 40 children or something. It seems established only that William Tuttle married a woman named Elizabeth.

Price has Elizabeth b 1645 Ringstead, Simon b 1641 Ringstead, Simon, Benjamin and Mercy b 1647 New Haven. Nathaniel b 1651 Ringstead.

He was so feudal probably her birth name dematerialized!

She may have been related to Robert Hill or to his first wife; they tried to get custody of the youngest stepchild form the second wife after her husband died, and she didn't particularly seem to want the child.

William went ot Boston 1635, with first thre echildren, in Boston to 1639, two more children, to Davenport 1639, one of the first signers of origininal compact taht founded Connecticut.

William was much employed in public affairs. He was titled "Mr.", which met he had unusual social status. Wealthy for his time. All of his sons and daughters married intot e first families of the day.

Pictures of Tuttle descendants from this couple from George F Tuttle's Tttle genealogy look strikingly like Amzi Allen and a number of his immediate descendants. (large oval face, prominent facial features esp heavy brow, large nose)

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A noble genealogy assigned to William Tuttle from Devonshire has been disproven.

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Ththill or Tuthill a place name found in various localities in England. Tut or Tot is the name of a rivulet, gives name to many places, thus Tottenhill and Tutbury in Stafordshire, Tutwell in Warwickshire, Tottington in Norfolk, Etc. Another interprepretation; Toteham and totenham are from teh Saxon Deodholm and Deodanholm; Deod mean both populus and publicus, the Gothic Thiods meaning populus, whence a king called Thioda, or publius, ancient German word Thiota has same meaning as modern word Diet. British Tut or Tute, and the Irish Tuat.

Tothills occur in many parts of England, in the several forms of tot, Tut Toot, Tote, etc. One fo them Tuthill, near Thetford, in Norfolk co, has been called so since the battle between King Edward the Martyr and the Danes in 871, suppposed to have been raised by the Danes over the bodies of their contrymen slain in the battle.

Tothill Fields, London, origin in an ancient lease, of a close, called the Toothill, otherwise the Beacon Field

A place of same name near Cornarvon Castle, also called the Beacon Hill. Proably the close called the Toothill was the highest spot in Westminster and so suitable for a baecon.

An O'Toole or O'Tothill family or sept in Ireland held out against the English invaders. A warlike tribe. Many chiefs and bishops in that area of this clan. OTuathail or OToole.

Common lions on their coats of arms suggest common ancestry of the Irish family and some British and Welsh ones, particularly the Totyls of Wales, the Tothills of Devonshire, the Totehills of Yorkshire, the Tuthills of Cambridgeshire, and Norfolkshire.

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Following are my sources on teh very confused Tuttle sources. Waht is in this data base is the version I could deduce with the most important alternative versions.


Sam Casey's web page

Sidenstick/Price Family Page (Karen Price, [email protected] or donet.com)

Wayne R. Barnes' genealogy page [email protected]

Gene Curtin's page [email protected]

Jacobus. Hale House and Related Families. 1952. pp 770-2. His work is based mostly on a manuscript, written about 1910, of family history by the late Alain C. White, and taken to England, where the English lines, which include the ancestry of William Tuttle, were approved by teh College of Arms. Also material in assorted genealogies of other failies, partic Dawes-Gates, vol. 1.

TAG vol 8: 1881, 2052. "Families from Ancient New Haven".: Tuttle.

TAG vol 20: 112. Holman. "John Tuttle of Ipswich, MA in Irish Records", a short piece on the will of John Tuttle who died in Carrickfergus.

TAG vol 30: 7-10. Jacobus. article on Tuttle, Patnry, Judson and Hurd lines in which Jacobus arugues taht the marriages of Hannah the daughter of Richard Tutle and Anne the daughter of William Tuttle are wrongly identified, and purports to straighten them out.

TAG vol 54: 167. Greene, David. "Origin of John Tuttle of Ipswich". Contians the wills of Simon Toothill and John Welles.

TAG vol 56: 143. Greene, David. "Children of Richard Tuttle of Boston", baptismal records of a number of key Tuttles inlcuding htat of William Tuttle, from Ringstead.

TAG vol 59: 211. Greene, David. "Tuttles Revisited:. Contains correctons and more of Simon's will, including some connections that pertain to John Tuttle's identity.

I didn't copy these articles, made notes on a printout of an earlier draft of my Tuttle web page.

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Something about a settlement in the Dutch territory of New Jersey.

In 1644 he and Jasper Crane were fence viewer for Mr. Davenport's quarter. In 1646 he was road commissioner. In 1664 he spoke before the court in behalf of a young girl who had been found guilty of theft, saying that though her sin was great, "yet he did much pity her, and hoped the court would deal leniently with her and put her in some pious family where she would enjoy the means of grace for her soul's good." In 1672 he was one of the committee to settle boundary dispute between Branford and New Haven. In March 1666, he took the constable's oath. The exact date of his death is unkown, but it was early in June, 1673. He lies buried under the "Old Green," but exactly where is unknown. The last of his estate was distributed in 1709 to his children or to their heirs. He was, as may be inferred from foregoing, the equal socially of any of the colonists, and brought up his children in a manner befitting their condition, carefully providing for them a means of starting in life. He was a man of courage, enterprise, intelligence, probity and piety; a just man whose counsels and judgments were sought to calm the contentions and adjust the differences of jarring neighbors, and withall he possessed a tenderness fo heart unusual in men whose lives were passed in stife and conflict with desperation... (Genealogical and memorial history of the state of New Jersey)


General Notes (Wife)

She is identified by many as Elizabeth Mathews. Noone can produce a source for this notion. It sounds suspiciously like it came from the old notion that William was of the Devonshire Tuttle family and related to noblemen. His purported father had married an Elizabeth Mathews and purportedly had more than 40 children who all had high roles in the Elizabethan court.

More likely she was related to a Robert Hill family that tried to get custody of her youngest child, who William's widowed second wife did not seem to want.

William was so feudal he probably ate her premarital identity for breakfast the day after their wedding!



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