On September 18, 1808 in VT, Alvin married Mary (Molly) HATCH, daughter of Noah Hatch and granddaughter of Isaiah Hatch. The ceremony was preformed by Samuel Shipman, Justice of the Peace. (Could this be the same Samuel Shipman? He is from the same Edward Shipman line (d Sept 15 1697) but through Edward's son William, not Sergeant John Shipman.) Alvin and Molly had no children. Alvin served in the War of 1812. (After 1858, Capt. Fuller's Co. Pension #8365 was granted to his widow, Sophia.)

On October 25, 1814, Alvin married Sophia BROWN at Hardwick, VT. They moved from VT to Silver Lake, near Montrose, PA, where son

Charles Edmund Shipman was born May 20, 1819.

Isaiah Hatch Shipman (b May 5 1823),
John Brown Shipman (b Oct 25 1826 OH, d 8 Jan 1899 WI),
Ezra Brown Shipman (b Apr 14 1829) - m Sarah Ann Henry 1834-1918 grave - grave (died 28 Jan 1911) buried at Prairie View Cemetery, Hallie, Chippewa Co WI, and
Albert Hatch Shipman (b July 9 1832).

On August 16 1838, the Shipman family headed west to get land in the Platte Purchase in Missouri. They had a covered wagon and two yoke of cattle.

(Page 390) "Some of the experiences of Alvin and family on their trip to Missouri are good illustrations of those pioneering days. Alvin's son Albert became ill near Springfield, Ill. The oldest son, Charles, was sent ahead to find a doctor. When the doctor saw the sick boy, he insisted that the Shipman family go to his home where the doctor's wife nursed the boy for four weeks. On another occasion Alvin's party was overtaken by 70 wagons of Mormons on the way west. Another time Alvin traveled for a time with a family which had horses. The father of this party went ahead each day and prepared a camp site for the nights. 'There were "campers" everywhere in those days.'

"Along the road Alvin added to his possesions, so that by Sept. 1840 they had two teams of horses, some cows, and 18 hogs. At this stage they were on the LaMoines River forty miles from the Mississippi.

"Travelling over into Missouri, their hogs ate something 'whir-h (which?) drove them blind and crazy' and Alvin lost all of them. By 1843 he ran out of money and the family took jobs in saw mills, on tobacco and corn farms, at carpenter work, etc. Alvin rented a farm, bought two town lots and built a house. He took a contract to supply the stone for a new Court House. During the five years at Andrew County, Missouri, 'we took the shaking ague every winter; you could come into the house where there would be five or six down with the ague at the same time. If you would ask them questions it was doubtful if they could answer as their chins would quiver and their teeth would rattle. The words would be shaken out of their mouths instead of spoken.' The highest wages in Missouri were 37 1/2 cents per day. The people were mostly from the southern states and their language in typical southern speech. These people lived on corn dodgers, bacon, and coffee to wash it down. Pork was 2 1/2 cents, coffee 10 cents a pound, corn 10 cents a bushel, sugar 3 to 4 cents a pound. Alvin cleared land and raise the most profitable crop, which was tobacco.

Source: 1900 census of Bloomer (Chippewa County) WI
Shipman, Duayne L., head, age 50, born in WI about Apr 1850 (actually believed to be Apr 15, 1849)
    wife Harrietta, 48, born in IL about Oct 1851
    dau Belle C. 24, born in WI about May 1876
    dau Alma A. 11, born in WI about Nov 1888
in same household:
    Dalton, Rachel, mother in law, 71 born in IL about Jan 1829
    Harrietta's deceased father, Stephen, was born in KY. Rachel, his widow, would have been married 56 years with 12 children born and 6 living. Her daughter, Harietta was married 30 years with 3 children born and living. In the 1880 census, the family of Stephen and Rachel Dalton were listed Fawn Creek, KS.

Mary Elizabeth Shipman was born to Charles E. and Mandy (George) SHIPMAN in Chippewa Co, WI on Apr 15 1855. On 21 Oct 1879, she married Charles Enoch TALLMAN, born 8 Jan 1859. According to his obituary, Charles and Mary married in 1880 in Chippewa Co WI. In 1900, the family moved to Coeur d'Alene, ID. Charles was in the lumber and sawmill industry about 40 years. From about 1912 to 1934, he lived in and around Kuna, where he was called "Dad Tallman". Mary was 76 years old when, on 12 July 1932, she died in Kuna (see obituary). Two years later and also 76 years old, Charles died May 11, 1934 according to his obituary. 76 year old Mary died July 12, 1932 according to her obituary. Both obituaries were in the Kuna Herald. In 1934, Mary and Charles had 13 grandchildren and 3 great grandchildren. Charles also was survived by one brother, Morris Tallman, of Lock, Washington.
Charles and Mary's CHILDREN	Charles & Mary's GRANDCHILDREN
Orva E. TALLMAN b. d. m. Ida STRATTON	Orva (listed one place as "Orville") was living in Spirit Lake, ID in 1932, but by 1948 when his brother, George, died, he had returned to Coeur d'Alene. Theodosia TALLMAN
Hugh TALLMAN b. d. before 1932? m.
Lemuel G. TALLMAN b. d. m. Hope HAITLEY	Lem lived in Waukegan, IL.
George M. TALLMAN b. 2 Apr 1888 Bloomer, WI d. 24 Jan 1948 Boise, ID m. Elva May WHITEHEAD b. 3 Nov 1892 d. 10 Jan 1977 remarried to a Mr Riley	George and Elva lived in Kuna and had one son, Melburn Tallman, born 1 Jan 1913, who later lived in Eagle, ID. Melburn died 18 Sept 1982, and was buried with his parents at Kuna, ID.
from the Idaho Statesman, (Boise, ID) contributed by Karin George Molyneaux Tallman, 59, of 2014 North Ninth Street, retired operator of the Kuna general store and Boise resident for six years, died Saturday at his Boise home. He was born April 2, 1888 at Bloomer, Wis. and came to Priest Lake, Idaho when 16 years of age. He was a member of the Kuna Masonic and Odd Fellows lodges, Order of the Eastern Star and Rebekah lodge. Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Elva M. Tallman, Boise; a son, Melburn Tallman, Eagle; and two brothers, Lemuel G. Tallman, Waukegan, Ill. and Orva E. Tallman, Coeur d'Alene. Summers Chapel is arranging services.
Blanche (TALLMAN) SIMONSON NELSON b. d. m. (1) W. S. SIMONS m (2)	Blanche lived in Spokane, WA.

contributed by Karin Hunter: BELOVED KUNA WOMAN ANSWERS LAST SUMMONS [July 15, 1932] Kuna Herald Mrs. Mary Elizabeth Tallman, wife of Charles E. Tallman, for 20 years a resident of Kuna, died Tuesday morning at the family home following an extended illness. She was 76 years old. Besides her husband, Mrs. Tallman is survived by one daughter, Mrs. W. S. Simons, Spokane, Washington, three sons, L. G., Waukegan, Ill., O. E., Spirit Lake [Idaho], and George M. Tallman, one of our local merchants. There are also 12 grandchildren surviving. Funeral services were conducted by Rev. White at the M. E. Church, Thursday afternoon. She was laid to rest in Kuna Cemetery. The esteem and love for this grand old lady was shown by the packed house of sorrowing friends and the profusion of beautiful flowers. She was a wonderful wife, mother and friend. The community extends sympathy to the bereaved family. Death Certificate #79962. Mary Elizabeth Tallman who resided in Kuna 20 years before her death. Born 4/15/1856 and died 7/11/1932 at the age of 76 of acute myocarditis with cirrhosis of the liver as a secondary cause. Her occupation was listed as housewife. Her husband: Charles E. Tallman; her parents: Chas. Shipman (born NY) and Amanda George (born MO*). The informant was Mrs. George Tallman. (* born in OH)

contributed by Karin Hunter: PIONEER KUNA RESIDENT PASSED AWAY MAY 11 [May 18, 1934] Kuna Herald Charles E. Tallman, known to his many friends in this section as "Dad" Tallman, passed away at St. Alphonsus Hospital in Boise Friday, May 11th at 6 o'clock in the morning after an illness of but a few days. "Dad" Tallman owned and operated the Kuna Pool Hall at intervale for the past 10 years and was held in high esteem by all who knew him. His sudden death came as a shock to his many friends. The esteem in which his friendship was held was evidenced by the large number attending the funeral and by the banks of flowers which covered the casket and rostrum. OBITUARY [followed the above immediately] Charles E. Tallman, was born January 8, 1856 at Madison, Wisconsin, died May 11, 1934, age 76 years, 4 months and 3 days of diabetis. When about 4 years old the family moved to Chipewa County, Wisconsin where Mr. Tallman grew to manhood and married Mary E. Shipman in 1880. To this union was born Orva E. Tallman, Spirit Lake, Idaho, Hugh Tallman, deceased, George M. Tallman, Kuna and Mrs. Blanche Simonsen of Spokane, Washington. Other surviving relatives are 13 grandchildren, 3 greatgrandchildren, and one brother, Morris Tallman of Lock, Washington. In the year 1900 Chas. Tallman and family moved from Wisconsin to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. About 40 years of his life was spent in the lumber and sawmill industry. Most of the past 22 years he has lived in and around Kuna, where he was known to everyone as Dad Tallman. Mr. Tallman was only ill a very short time going to a Boise hospital May 6 for treatment. Funeral services were conducted at the Kuna M. E. Church Sunday. Burial was made in Kuna Cemetery. Death Certificate #88899. Charles Edward Tallman. Born 1/18/1858 and died at the age of 76 years, 4 months, 3 days on 5/11/1934 at 6pm after going into a diabetic coma on 5/9/34. His occupation was listed as "retired". Birthplace unknown. Father: Chas. Tallman. Informant: George M. Tallman of Kuna.

from the Idaho Statesman, contributed by Karin Services for Melburn O. "Hap" Tallman, 69, of 916 N. 28th St. [Boise], who died Saturday, Sept. 18, 1982 in a Boise hospital, will be conducted at 2 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 21 in Summers Funeral Home. Officiating will be the Rev. Thomas J. Blackburn, of Community Christian Center and Meridian Lodge No. 47, A.F. & A.M. Internment will follow in the Kuna Cemetery. He was born Jan. 1, 1913 in Kuna, where he was reared. After serving in the Navy during WWII, he returned to Kuna where he had a ranch and feed lot. In 1962 he started Hap Tallman's Stockman's Supply at 4410 Overland [Boise]. He married DeLoris Ginther on March 1, 1969 in Boise. He was a member of the Methodist Church, past master of Kuna Lodge No. 79, A.F. & A.M., now affiliated with Meridian Lodge No. 47, A.F. & A.M., the Scottish Rite Bodies of Boise, El Korah Temple of the Shrine, and president of El Korah Provost Guard. Surviving are his wife, DeLoris R. Tallman; a son, Tim Tallman; two stepsons, Mike Ginther and Tony Ginther, all of Boise; and four grandchildren. Contributions may be made to the Shriners Hospital for Crippled Children. Friends may call at Summers Funeral Home today, from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. Kuna Cemetery, Kuna, ID Charles E. Tallman b. 1859 d. 2/11/1935 at age 76 Mary E. Tallman b. 1857 d. 1933 at age 76 They are located in Block 82, Lot 5 and have a common headstone. George Molyneaux Tallman b. 1888 d. 1/24/1948 at age 59 Elva May Tallman-Riley b. 11/3/1892 d. 1/10/1977 (George's wife) Melburn H. Tallman b. 1/1/1913 d. 9/18/1982

He was born upon this property in 1859 and is a son of Charles Shipman, a native of Pennsylvania, who came to Wisconsin as a young man, locating in Sauk county. He afterward moved to Missouri but in 1857 returned to this state, settling in Chippewa county, where he followed farming until his death, passing away at theage of seventy-nine. He married Miss Amanda George and they became the parents of three children: L.D., who has passed away; Mrs. Mary Tallman; and Ezra F., of this review.

Ezra F. Shipman acquired his education in the public schools of Chippewa county and after laying aside his books began farming on the home place, which he has since operated. He assisted in erecting the buildings upon the poperty and has made other substantial improvements, his farm being today productive and valuable.

Mr. Shipman married Miss Nora Ward, a daughter of Jerry Ward, of Chippewa county, and they have become the parents of two children: Charles, who married Miss May Webb, by whom he has a daughter, Inez; and Irene, who married Percy Gorton, by whom she has two sons, Elmer and Edgar.

Fraternally Mr. Shipman is a member of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows and he is a republican in his political beliefs, having served as town clerk and a member of the town board. He is held in high regard throughout Chippewa county and has an extensive and representative circle of friends.

Ezra & Nora's SON	Ezra & Nora's GRANDCHILDREN
Charles Jerry SHIPMAN b. Oct 31, 1885 d. July 1973, Bloomer, WI (Chippewa Co) m. Aug 22, 1909 to Mae WEBB b. Sep 19, 1887 d. ?	Inez SHIPMAN b. Aug 21, 1911 Charles "Edmund" SHIPMAN b. May 4, 1914 Beatrice SHIPMAN b. Jun 8, 1921 Ruth SHIPMAN b. Jul 17, 1924 Keith Jerry SHIPMAN b. Jul 17, 1924
Ezra & Nora's GRANDCHILDREN	Ezra & Nora's GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN
Inez (SHIPMAN) VEUM b. Aug 21, 1911 d. Mar 1974 Bloomer (Chippewa Co) WI m. Nov 14, 1941 to Roy VEUM b. Apr 28, 1891 d. Jan 1975, Bloomer, WI	no children?
Charles "Edmund" SHIPMAN b. May 4, 1914 d. May 1987 m. May 2, 1937 to Gertrude REHM b. 1916 (still living 2005) 1930 census and Hazel's obit: Bloomer, WI	Paul Edmund SHIPMAN (San Diego CA Janice SHIPMAN (Mrs Raymond CROWELL, Bloomer, WI) b. 1940 Hazel SHIPMAN b 5 Oct 1942 - d 23 Nov 2005 - m William WOODS on 24 Nov 1959 Anna Mae SHIPMAN (Mrs. Ted BOWE of Chippewa Falls) b. 1945 John Allen SHIPMAN b. 1949 m. Audrey? (Live in Bloomer WI) - grandson: Levi Lee Homann, b. Nov 26, 2002 Roxanne SHIPMAN (Mrs. Charles PARRISH of Providence RI)
Beatrice SHIPMAN b. June 8, 1921 d. Aug 23, 2001 Bloomer, WI	"She is survived by one son: Harold (Dawn) of Colfax (WI); three grandchildren: Kandee (Steve) Burton, David (Brigid) Shipman and Daniel Shipman, all of Colfax; six great-grandchildren: Christopher and Kenzie Galetka, Maria and Sarah Burton, Joshua and Taylor Shipman." (from her obituary, in the Bloomer Advance)
Ruth SHIPMAN b. July 17, 1924 (twin)	no children?
Keith Jerry SHIPMAN b. July 17, 1924 (twin) d. Nov 1974 (no location) 1930 census: Woodmohr, Chippewa, WI	Alice Mae SHIPMAN b. 1949 Dale Charles SHIPMAN b. 1951