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OTHER WISEMAN FAMILIES

 

73A Thomas Henry Wiseman of County Cork, Ireland

 

73A Thomas Henry Wiseman (Father Unknown)

      Birth: c1812?, in County Cork, Ireland.

      Death: c1900?, in Australia.   

      Marriage: c1840? at Sydney, Australia to Anne Hardum, who was a native of County Cork.

      Children: See below.

      Military: Unknown.

 

73A Thomas Henry Wiseman (b. c1812?, in County Cork, Ireland; d. c1900?, in Australia; m-c1840? at Sydney, Australia to Anne Hardum, who was a native of County Cork; Thomas was a marine engineer and principal engineer aboard the SS James Watt; In c1834 he immigrated from London, England to Sydney, Australia.)

  73AA Henry Parker Wiseman (b. c1841? at Sydney, Australia; NFI.)

  73AB Thomas Henry Wiseman, Jr. (b. c1843? at Sydney, Australia; NFI.)

  73AC Kate Gertrude Wiseman (b. c1846? at Sydney, Australia; NFI.)     

  73AD Edye Marmion Wiseman (b. c1852? at Sydney, Australia; NFI.)

73B James Wiseman (Father Unknown; brother of Thomas Henry Wiseman, above; NFI.)

 

Researchers of 73A Thomas Henry Wiseman of County Cork, Ireland:

 

1.  Maria Perth, No Mailing Address; E-Mail: <meandre@iprimus.com.au >. 

2.  Robert D. “Bob” Wiseman, 22962 Lakeshore Drive, Elkhart, IN 46514-9572. Tel.: (219) 264-6200;

     E-Mail: <BobWiseElk@aol.com>. (Historian, Compiler and Researcher of surname Wiseman)

 

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q/meandre@iprimus.com.au  Maria Perth, Western Australia.

Your email has been given to me from someone (Bob Wilson) on Roots surname list. Hope you may be able to help. My great-grandfather Thomas Henry Wiseman came to Sydney in about 1835-40 and married in 1841. He was principal engineer on a steam boat called the James Watt in 1841 which was based in Sydney doing regular local trips. Thomas was supposed to have been born in Cork, Ireland about 1812 but have no definite knowledge of his voyage to Australia.  The only thing I have been able to find is a Thomas Wiseman and brother James who were passengers on a boat called the 'Robert Newton' which sailed  to Sydney August 1840 from 'The Downs'.  He was apparently born in England in 1820. He married in Sydney February 1841 to Ann Hardham, she arriving in Sydney in 1839 on the boat Navarino. Do you have any Wiseman connections to Sydney from either England or Cork birth about 1812-20. Many thanks, Maria Perth, Western Australia.

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q/meandre@iprimus.com.au  Maria Perth Western Australia.

----- Original Message -----

From: andrew out <meandre@iprimus.com.au>

To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 6:54 AM

Subject: [TSL] James Watt, Navarino Syd

Hi, I am on the list and have already posted about the James Watt, but am still needing more information.  My ggg Thomas Henry Wiseman arrived in Sydney about 1835 and was working on the James Watt in 1841 as principal engineer.  I  found this information from  a marriage notice in “The Sydney Morning Herald,” Feb 1841, which was passed on to me by a kind person.  I was not able to find this ad when I checked although it was part of records kept by the Hawkesbury Heritage Centre (n.s.w.)  I would dearly love some information about when he arrived, and how, possibly from Cork, Ireland. Many thanks to listers who have responded with offer of help. Maria Perth of Western Australia.

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QUERY/meandre@iprimus.com.au  Maria Perth, Western Australia.

Am tracing my ggrandfather's birth in Cork, Ireland. Thomas Henry Wiseman, occ. marine engineer, principal engineer on "ss James Watt", in 1841-London to Sydney 37; b. c1812 at Cork, Ireland; Arrived in Australia c1834; m. c1841 at  Sydney to Anne Hardum, native of Cork.

 Children:

 Henry Parker Wiseman (b. c1841? at Sydney, Australia; NFI.)

 Thomas Henry Wiseman, Jr. (b. c1843? at Sydney, Australia; NFI.)

 Kate Gertrude Wiseman (b. c1846? at Sydney, Australia; NFI.)     

 Edye Marmion Wiseman (b. c1852? at Sydney, Australia; NFI.)

 Any help appreciated. Maria Perth, Western Australia.

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QUERY/meandre@iprimus.com.au  Maria Perth, Western Australia.

I received this information from Mike Calder <mikealder@optushome.com.au>. I thought it may have been my Thomas Henry Wiseman but it wasn't.  I'm sure I read somewhere that either he or his brother John went to California from Sydney and died there in around 1852.  There were a few Wiseman's that went to California in the early 1850's because of the goldrush.

Am forwarding this information about Thomas and John Wiseman.  Sorry I don't have any information about John.

Do you know you can get the births, deaths, and marriages on line for New South Wales.  It goes back to the first convicts arrivals and there are a number of Wiseman's in that. <http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/>

Thomas and John Wiseman (brothers) arrived in Sydney on the Barque 'Robert Newton' on 23rd January 1841 after leaving London on 22 August 1840. Thomas served an apprenticeship in London with S.W. Silver & Co. Merchants of London and brought with him a shipment of goods to set up in Sydney. He commenced business as a Wholesale and Retail Clothier and General Outfitter in Pitt Street (Australian 13/41/1841p.3) Thomas and Margaret Elliott were married in East Maitland New South Wales.

 children:

1)  William John Wiseman born 20 June 1842.

2)  Thomas James Wiseman born in 1844.

Thomas Wiseman went to Mauritius hoping to open a business there. This did not eventuate and he took a position with Barlow and Co in Port Louis in Sept. 1844 and remained till April 1846.  He returned to Sydney towards the end of 1846. If I get any more information I will give it to you bye for now, Maria.

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QUERY/meandre@iprimus.com.au  Maria Perth, Western Australia.

                 

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