JOYCE FAMILY of Dublin, Tasmania and Western Australia
Joyce is my paternal family and my maiden name. So far the earliest member traced is George Joyce, a civil engineer of Dublin who was most likely born before 1780 [based on the 1800 birthdate of his son Henry as his second child]. His details are known from the obituary in the Launceston Examiner 12th January 1880 of his son Henry Joyce.
George Joyce proposed a scheme to run a canal from the Queen's County Canal at Esker, Co Kilkenny, past Kilkenny city & Thomastown to the tidal section of the River Nore below Inistioge. The scheme was detailed in a report dated Nov 1800-March 1801 he prepared for Walter, 18th Earl of Ormonde, although nothing came of the scheme. In the National Archives there is a letter from George Joyce to William Richard, 3rd Earl of Annesley, dated 12th October 1808, asking if there was a vacant position for him on the Howth Harbour Works.
Probably a co-incidence, but the Engineer on the Haven project at Grimsby, Lincolnshire from 1798 to April 1800 was a George Joyce. He and his wife Mary Baptised on the 7th April 1800 at St James, Grimsby, a son Henry. In the register George is described as an Engineer. The birthdate is perfect for my Henry Joyce.!
Henry Joyce was born in 1800, probably in Ireland [but maybe Grimsby...]. His Obituary states that up until his Father's death & shortly before he left for Tasmania he studied Architecture & held some important positions. He is said to have been involved in Politics in Ireland, connected with the "agitations" of O'Conell, Grattan & others. Tasmania having more of a need for workmen than supervisors he became involved with building more than designing. He was described on his death certificate as a Stone Mason, although The Tasmanian Cyclopedia describes him as a well known Architect in the early days of the colony . On his daughter Eliza's birth registration in 1845 he is listed as a farmer at Norfolk Plains in the Longford district, but a listing in the Launceston Examiner for insolvency on 3rd July 1844 describes him as a Stone Mason. A legal document in 1870 does describe him as Henry Joyce of Deloraine, Architect, so it may not be an entirely fanciful description!
Henry Joyce married Mary Ann Poole on the 11th August 1830 at St Andrews Roman Catholic Church, Dublin. His name is mispelt as "Joice". Parents names were not recorded & the witnesses were Thos Kearny & Susan Reid. Henry's obituary describes her as his second wife and the daughter of Captain Poole of Dublin. Henry and Mary Anne along with their son Joseph arrived in Hobart on the Strathfieldsaye on the 26th June 1833. The Barque had left Dublin on the 5th March 1833.
A letter written from Downing St in January 1833 requests Lieutenant Governor
Arthur to pay 20 pounds to the Commander of the Strathfieldsaye on account of
Henry Joyce [a bricklayer] aged 31, his wife aged 24 and his son Joseph
18months old. [Thank you to Christine for locating this letter for me].
An article in "The Courier" on 5th July 1833 about the sad state of the
emigrants who have recently arrived from Ireland, especially those on the
Strathfieldsay from Dublin. Few have found employment & many are living
destitute on the streets of Hobart-town. The article suggests that information
must be sent back "home" about the current lack of opportunity for the poor &
for an asylum to be established to look after the immediate needs of new
arrivals until they can find employment.
Henry and Mary Ann had at least 9 children, and possibly as many as 12 or 13. There seems to be a surprisingly large gap between Joseph and Mary Ann. They may have had Thomas, Ellen & Bridget who were all seemingly born in the right part of Tasmania at the right time but actual proof is lacking. Henry's obituary only mentions five sons and two daughters.
George Joyce Civil Engineer of Dublin,
held a Government Post for many years.
b. probably before 1780
d. Approximately 1830 or a little earlier
Married presumably before 1798 as Henry Joyce born in 1800 had an older
brother
Had issue including;
1. Mr Joyce
b. before 1800
d.?
Older brother of Henry. No details known. Could possibly be the Michael Joyce
that was the Godfather at Joseph Joyce's baptism in 1831.
2. Henry Joyce
b. abt 1800 presumably in Dublin, Ireland but could be anywhere!
d. 8 January 1880 in Deloraine, Tasmania. The informant is the undertaker
Joseph Grigg. Henry is buried in the Catholic Cemetery at Deloraine.
Married [1] name unknown, died by August 1831. There is a marriage of a Henry
JOYCE to Elizabeth BURKE on the 13th Jan 1829 at St Andrews, Dublin.
I can't see any children born to this couple so it is possible that this was
Henry's first marriage. There is a Henry JOYCE to a Judith DEGAN
on the 25th Jan 1830 at the same church, but that couple have several children,
so that can't be "my" Henry JOYCE.
Married [2] 11 August 1831 at St Andrews, Dublin to Mary Ann Poole who was the daughter of
Captain Poole of Dublin. Frustratingly the Christian name of her father
is not known, nor is the name of her mother. Mary Ann died on the 9th
November 1889 at her residence "Marshton" near Deloraine, Tasmania. The
informant was her Grandson R W Porter. She is buried in the Catholic
Cemetery. There are several families with the surname "Poole" in Dublin, and it
is possible on of them is hers, but of course, she could have been born
elsewhere & moved to Dublin anywhere before 1830. The best match seems to be
Mary Ann POOL [E] baptised 20 Aug 1809 at St Catherine, RC, Dublin, the daughter
of Thomas POOLE & Louisa WHYTE. They also baptised Michael, Robert, Eleanor &
Louisa. However, this Mary Ann is a little young to match Mary Ann's age
[although old enough to marry in 1830]. Not necessarily relevant, but they are
not names much used by her descendants. There is no way at this stage of knowing
where she was born & how long she resided in Dublin before she married. She
would have been 73 when Henry's obituary was written.
They had at least 9 children:
1. Joseph Joyce
b. abt 1831 presumably Dublin, Ireland.
Baptised 4th June 1831 at St Mary Pro-cathedral, Dublin as the son of Harry &
Mary JOYCE. Sponsors were Michael JOYCE and Anastasia ?? . Michael is
presumably a relative, possibly Henry's brother. Joseph was described as 18 months old
in the shipping list.
d. I have not been able to locate a death
for him.. He is likely to have been alive in 1880 as his father's death
certificate mentions 5 surviving sons. In December 1880 The Mercury
details some land transfers at Deloraine to Michael McCormick, Joseph Joyce &
Michael Joyce.
2. Mary Ann Joyce
b. 1837 Tasmania, Australia [I have not
seen a record for this birth, but Henry's obituary lists her as daughter]
d. 24 April 1921 at her residence
"Moorlands", Reedy Marsh aged 84.
Married on 5th July 1854 in Westbury, Tasmania to
John Porter [He died 1 July 1897 at Marshdon]. They had five
children; Jane, Mary Ellen Ursula, Isabella Anna Maria, Eugenie Caroline, Robert
William & Jane]
3. Henry Joyce
b. abt 1840 in Tasmania. [I have not
found a record of this birth]
d. April 1922, Bacchus Marsh, Victoria.
Buried 13 April 1922 at Coburg Cemetery, Melbourne.
Married on 11th July 1872 when he was
stated as being 32 to Jane Elizabeth Mooney. She
was born in 1854 and died in 1942. They had 5 children; Amy Jane, Henry "Harry"
Joseph, Maud Mary, Albert Francis and Joseph Bernard]. Henry was a licensed
victualler.
4. Michael John Joyce
b. 20 April 1841, Baptised at St John
the Evangelist
Catholic Church, Richmond, Tasmania 8th May 1841. Sponsor was Anne Hannan.
d. 8 Dec 1921 at Beaconsfield, Tasmania.
Married 17 September 1899 in Launceston to Theresa Agnes Counsel
who was 56, so the couple had no children. She was born in 1843 & died in
1916.
5. Aloysius James Joyce
b. 21 June 1844 at Longford, Tasmania
d. 13 April 1926 at Burnie, Tasmania.
He is buried at Star of The Sea Church, Burnie, Tasmania.
He married By special licence on the 20th July 1867 at
the Catholic Church, Westbury, Tasmania to
Clara Frances Gregory. She was born 16th September
1847 in Bothwell, Tasmania, the daughter of Edward Gregory of Frome and
Fanny Snook of Bath. Her family were Anglican and Non Conformist and
apparently her marrying a Catholic was not approved of. The witnesses at the
wedding were Harry Gregory [who I cannot place!] and Henry Joyce, jnr.
They had 14 Children,
see below.
6. Eliza Joyce
b. 9 June 1845 at Norfolk Plains, Longford, Tasmania.
d. 7 July 1845 at Longford, Tasmania
The death registration records her
death as from "Convulsive Fits" & her father as a farmer.
7. Francis 'Frank" Thomas Joyce
b. 20th December 1846 & baptised
7th January 1847 at St
Joseph, Launceston, Tasmania.
d. 19 July 1895 Deloraine, Tasmania of Consumption.
Married on 30th April 1889 at Launceston,
Tasmania to Katie Amy Babington. She was the daughter of John Alcock
Morgan Babbington and Catherine Colclough Young. They had two Children; Claude "John" Henry and Mary "Kathleen"
Erica. Frank was a school Teacher at Westbury and died of Consumption when his
children were only 4 and 2.
8. William Joyce
b. 24th March 1849 & baptised 18th
April 1849 at St Joseph, Launceston. Sponsors were Ambrose Walsh & Frances
McMahon.
d. 13 July 1854 Tasmania [Father is
Henry Joyce], cause of death given is Croup.
9. Jane Frances Joyce
b. 25 August 1853 at Westbury, Tasmania
& baptised 1st September 1853 at the Parish of Westbury. Sponsors were Thomas
Bensley & Margaret Duggin.
d. 5 September 1916 at Latrobe, Tasmania
Married 5 November 1874 at Deloraine
Catholic Church, Tasmania to Michael Ambrose McCormack. He was born in
1842 and died in 1917. They had 4 children; Henry Michael, Harold Michael,
Minnie Frances & Kathleen.
Aloysius James Joyce and Clara Frances Gregory had 14 children. Aloysius was described at various times as a Publican, Storekeeper and a Secretary. At the time of his marriage Aloysius was described as of the Junction Inn. He bought the freehold of the Branxholme Hotel in 1880 & built the village there. The school was taught in one of his cottages there. Later the price of tin declined and the family moved to Burnie to take up farming. He was a member & warden of the Star of The Sea Church at Burnie, Tasmania which is where he is buried.
Aloysius James Joyce & his wife Clara Frances Gregory. Huge thanks to Tricia
Sullivan for these pictures! [and to
David Wilson for improving Clara's picture]
1. Mary "Grace" Joyce
b. 27 September 1868 at Deloraine, Tasmania
d. 28 Melbourne, Australia
She married on the 26th November 1888 to James Peter Murdock. They had 10
Children
Mary Grace [nee Joyce] Murdock.
2. Joseph "Clarence" Joyce
b. 6 Feb 1870 at Deloraine, Tasmania
d. 1944 at Victoria, Australia
He married on the 7th September 1904 to Ada Margaret Lennard. They
had 5 children
Joseph Clarence Joyce
3. May Frances Joyce
b. 18th August 1871 Deloraine, Tasmania
d. 6 Aug 1948
She married in 1895 to Robert William Porter. They had four children
[Stuart Gladstone, Leila Winifred, Mary & Kenneth Adrian]
4. Aloysius Joyce
b. 18 December 1873 at Deloraine, Tasmania
d. 11 September 1946 at Nedlands, Perth, Western Australia and is buried at
Karrakatta Cemetery in the Roman Catholic section.
He married [1] on the 12th April 1904 at Burnie Tasmania to
Elizabeth
Borradale. She was born on 31 January 1879 at Coopers Creek to
William
Knight Borradale [He was the son of convict William Borradale/Borradaile]
and Jane Robertson. Elizabeth died on the 29th March 1909 at Boulder,
Western Australia of Typhoid Fever. Aloysius and Elizabeth had two children. [See
Below]
He married [2] Kate Tooth on the 6th October 1923. She died on the 18th
January 1957 at Subiaco. They
had no issue.
Joyce Family at Boulder about 1908. Photo from Pat Joyce
Back row L to R: Kathleen Joyce, Doug Joyce, Eileen Joyce & Charlie Hepworth
Front Row: Jack Joyce, Elizabeth [nee Borradale] Joyce, William Joyce [about
4yrs], Aloysius Joyce & Linda Borradale
[Linda married Charlie Hepworth in 1908]
Elizabeth [nee Borradale] Joyce's grave at Kalgoorlie, WA.
5. Marry "Tottie" Joyce
b. 8 September 1875 at Deloraine, Tasmania
d. 1 Jan 1957 at Latrobe, Tasmania
She married on the 1st September 1900 to Francis Valentine "Val" Perkins.
6. Joseph "Joe" Thomas Joyce
b. 8 September 1875 at Deloraine, Tasmania
d. 21 June 1945 Maylands, Perth & buried at Karrakatta Cemetery.
He married on 16 February 1901 at Zeehan, Tasmania to Alice Gertrude May
[from Victoria. She was born in 1885 & died 5 June 1963 at Maylands, Perth. She
is buried at Karrakatta.
They had seven children including the world famous pianist Eileen Joyce.
She was born on the 1st January 1908 at Zeehan, Tasmania but spent most of her
childhood at Boulder in the West Australian Goldfields. Presumably in an attempt
to appear younger than she was, Eileen later claimed a birth year of 1910, 1912 &
even 1915...]
Aloysius Joyce, Eric Joyce [son of Joe & Alice], Joseph Thomas Joyce, Mr
Watkins, Alice nee May Joyce &
Mr Stout at Boulder.
Eileen Joyce, c1920 at St Josephs, Boulder.
7. Lucy Fanny Joyce
b. 15 March 1877 at Ringarooma, Tasmania
d. 1959 at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Married 5th July 1905 in Burnie, Tasmania to James Stephen Merlo
8. Agnes Emily Joyce
b. 26 Jan 1879 at Ringarooma, Tasmania, Australia
d. 25 August 1956 Tasmania, Australia
Married 3rd April 1904 at St Mary's Church, Burnie to Henry "John"
Apps. They had 3 children
9. John "Jack" Francis Martial Joyce
b. 18 August 1880 at Ringarooma, Tasmania, Australia
d. 1959
He married 13th September 1909 to Margaret May Carroll. They had 11
children.
See Joyce family group photo above.
10. Clara Rosalie Joyce
b. 1 September 1882 at Ringarooma, Tasmania, Australia
d. Jan 1948
at St Vincents Hospital, Launceston,
and buried 11th Jan 1948 at Deloraine.
She was a Nun with the Sisters of Mercy and known as Sister Mary Alacoque
Joyce.
11. Vincent Joyce
b. 4 Jan 1884 at Ringarooma, Tasmania, Australia
d. 16 Jan 1884
at Ringarooma, Tasmania of Whooping Cough
12. Eileen Natal Joyce
b. 25th December 1884 at Ringarooma, Tasmania, Australia
d. December 1970, buried 21 December 1970 at Wivenhoe, Tasmania.
See Joyce Group photo above.
13. Douglas Lawrence Joyce
b. 7th January 1887 at Ringarooma, Tasmania, Australia
d. 1965 at Brisbane, QLD, Australia
See Joyce Group photo above.
Married Florence Erin Hanney
14. Kathleen Margaret Alacoque Joyce
b. 4 October 1889 Ringarooma, Tasmania, Australia
d. 31 January 1968 Victoria, Australia.
Kathleen married John Don and had 4 children.
See Joyce Group photo above.
Aloysius Joyce in the Klondyke
Aloysius Joyce in Singapore, probably trading Sandalwood
Three of the Joyce brothers served in the Boer war. They were John Martial
Joyce, Aloysius Joyce and Joseph Clarence Joyce. Thanks to Mick Joyce for the
picture.
My Great Grandfather was Aloysius II Joyce. Aloysius certainly led a
very interesting life, when his family moved to Burnie to become farmers he
found that dull, so moved to Waratah to try tin mining. He attended Zeehan
mining school, achieving a 1st in engine driving, mining surveying and
mineralology. In 1897 he travelled to Canada to join in the Klondike gold
rush. He kept a most entertaining journal of his time there, parts of this
summarised and published in "Those Were the Days". He mentions taking many
photographs...I wonder what happened to them! He cut his time there short to
come home to enlist in the Horsemen & to head off to South Africa to the Boer
War. His application describes him as 6ft tall, dark complexioned, dark hair and
light brown/hazel eyes. He stayed on in South Africa to mine, earning good
money, but shocked at the short life expectancy of the white men mining, so
decided to return home. At first he ran a newsagency with his sister Agnes,
before they both married. He and his wife Elizabeth then spent some time
in Sydney before joining his brother Jack in Boulder/Kalgoorlie in
Western Australia. Clarence had moved to Melbourne. He and Elizabeth
Borradale had only two children before she died at the early age of 30.
With his brother Jack, Aloysius ran grocery stores and Hotels, including
the well known Angel Hotel. He also had a camel train, sending Sandalwood by it
to the railway line. His brother Joseph joined him in boulder, bringing
his family including his daughter Eileen who was to become a world famous
pianist.
Aloysius tried to enlist in the "Great War" but was rejected on account
of a fatty heart. Feeling poorly he was advised to go to China [!!] to sell his
sandalwood. He quickly established a market there.
Borradale Family Group. Elizabeth Borradale in second from the left in the
back row. Her parents William knight Borradale and Jane Robertson are in
the centre row. Many thanks to George Hudson for the photograph.
Aloysius Joyce and his camel train. They are in front of the Angel Hotel run
by his brother John Martial Joyce.
The children of Aloysius Joyce and Elizabeth Borradale were;
1. "Bill" William James Joyce
b. 21 July 1904 at Waverly, NSW
d. 5th January 1977 at Subiaco, Western Australia.
He married on 2nd April 1929 at Victoria Park to Sheila Agnes Gerard
Collopy. She was born on 19th December 1905 in Perth Western Australia, the
daughter of Michael Collopy and
Mary Elizabeth Boyle. They
had seven children, the 4th of whom is my Father.
2. Frank Aloysius Joyce
b. 1906 Boulder, Western Australia
d. 9 December 1931 at Wyalkatchem, Western Australia
Michael Collopy and Mary Elizabeth Boyle, parents of Shelia Collopy.
William Joyce as Little Jack Horner c1909
Sheila Collopy c1923
at Boulder Primary. Photo from Mary Dewar
Wedding of "Bill" William Joyce and Sheila Collopy in 1929
Photo from Patricia Joyce.
Wish List: To locate more Joyce family photographs, To locate the Joyce family
in Dublin and find out more about George Joyce, Civil Engineer,
especially who he was married to.
I have come across Mary Ann Poole described as the daughter of Captain
Poole of The British Army. I would love to know more about Captain Poole,
especially his Christian name & who his wife was.
Thanks to: Mary Dewar, Patricia Joyce, Brendan Joyce, Vonny and Patrick
Antonio, Marion Cagney, Helen Webster [for hunting through the microfilms &
newspapers], George Hudson, Arlene Santostefano, Betty [for hunting
through the Archives] , Graeme Williams [for finally finding Henry's Obituary
for me!] Christine for finding many Joyce & Borradale records and documents &
Trisha Sullivan [ Kathleen Margaret Alacoque Joyce's granddaughter ] for
Joyce family information.