Van Bibber Pioneers E-Newsletter, Vol 1, No. 2
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Van Bibber Pioneers Electronic Newsletter
Volume 1, Number 2   ·   December 1996


GREETINGS:

Happy Holidays to everyone! It is my wish that you have a very good holiday season.

I would have never believed that we would start the Van Bibber Pioneers newsletter with thirty-eight subscribers. I think we have a good start. I hope the subscribers will take it upon themselves to assist the individuals asking for information in the queries. Also, I want the subscribers to add to or correct any submission from the members. In this manner we can add to our knowledge of the Van Bibber family and related families. In case of a conflict of information I will publish both sets of data until someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt which set of information is correct. I know there will be such contributions. It is the nature of genealogical research.

If anyone wants to contribute some general genealogical article such as how to begin your genealogical research or a general history of a certain time period feel free to do so. Some of our subscribers are beginners and might have a need for that type of material.

If any of the subscribers finds any interesting sites on the Internet please send the address to the newsletter and I will post it. This could include World Wide Web sites, FTP sites, mailing lists, IRC sites, etc., and does not have to pertain to the Van Bibber or related families. If they do contain Van Bibber or related material please indicate that information.

The editor reserves the right to edit any contributions.

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Contents:

1. New Members

2. Annafel Chart of Gail Morin

3. A Civil War Story

4. Van Bibber Wills, Marriages, etc.

5. Greenlee - Van Bibber Connection

6. Van Bibber Miscellaneous

7. Corrections to Vol. 1 No. 1

8. Sites on the Internet

9. Nathan and Olive (Van Bibber) Boone Group Sheet

10. The Labidist Connection

11. Special Request from Kathleen O'Kelley

12. Queries

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NEW MEMBERS

Welcome to the newest subscribers to the Van Bibber Pioneers

Greg Engler <[email protected]>

Hal Amick <[email protected]>

Harold Lowder <[email protected]>

Ken Brice <[email protected]>

Joe Patton <[email protected]>

Joseph Payne <[email protected]>

<[email protected]>

George T. Van Bebber <[email protected]>

Stephen van Bibber <[email protected]>

Michael Van Bibber <[email protected]>

Hal McCawley <[email protected]>

Maxine Bickham <[email protected]?

Tony Popp <[email protected]>

Vivian Van Bibber <[email protected]>

Susan M. Bradford <[email protected]>

Dana Lutrull <[email protected]>

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VAN BIBBER AHNENTAFEL CHART

Gail Morin <[email protected]>

1st GENERATION

1 Gail Ann OVERBEY ­ b 24 Apr 1940 Mason City, (Okanogan), WA

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2nd GENERATION

2 Karl Henry OVERBEY ­ b 30 Mar 1914 Peach Orchard, (Clay), AR; m 5 May 1939 Ephrata, (Grant), WA; d 20 Sep 1989 Seattle, (King), WA

3 Christina Mae SAMPSON ­ b 28 Jan 1916 Plummer, (Benewah), ID; d 5 Mar 1996 Grand Coulee, (Grant), WA

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3rd GENERATION

6 Bert SAMPSON ­ b 15 Jun 1879 LaPlata, MO; d 6 Feb 1959 Coeur d'Alene, Kootenai, ID

7 Clara Agnes LIBERTY ­ b 27 Dec 1884 Liberty Lake, (Spokane) WA; d 2 Feb 1941 Orofino, ID

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4th GENERATION

12 Richard W. SAMPSON ­ b 9 Sep 1849 Pike County, OH; m 1875 Easley Twp, (Macon), MO; d 2 May 1923 Los Angeles, (Los Angeles),CA

13 Melissa MUSICK ­ b 21 Apr 1858; d 5 Dec 1887

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5th GENERATION

26 Burr MUSICK ­ b 17 Apr 1830; m 24 May 1857; d 4Apr 1887

27 Elgivia SAMPSON ­ b 24 Feb 1847; d 18 Jul 1918 LaPlata, MO

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6th GENERATION

54 Fountain Baker SAMPSON ­ b 3 Apr 1807 Tennessee; d Atlanta, Missouri

55 Melissa HICKERSON ­ b 2 Feb 1818 Montgomery Co., Missouri; d Atlanta, Missouri

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7th GENERATION

110 Thomas HICKERSON ­ b 1789 Fauquire County, VA; m 21 Jun 1816 St. Charles Co., MO; d 1867 LaPlata, MO

111 Susanna VAN BIBBER ­ d 1855 LaPlata, Missouri

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8th GENERATION

222 Isaac VAN BIBBER Jr. ­ b 20 Oct 1771 Greenbriar Co., VA; m Abt 1797/1798 , KY; d 30 Sep 1840 Williamsburg, (Montgomery), MO

223 Elizabeth HAYS ­ b 12 Jun 1776 Ft. Boonesborough, KY; d 3 Aug 1804 St. Charles Co., MO

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9th GENERATION

444 Isaac Michael VAN BIBBER Sr. ­ b Abt 1724/1725 Cecil Co., MD; d 10 Oct 1774 Battle of Point Pleasant, WV

445 Sarah DAVIS

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10th GENERATION

888 Peter VAN BIBBER Sr. ­ b 15 May 1698; d Abt 1770

889 Ann

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A CIVIL WAR STORY

By Linda Watson <[email protected]>

My mother's father's name was John Donnelly Van Bibber ­ he was born in Bluegrass, Iowa and he died in 1945. His father was James Robinson Van Bibber and was born in (West) Virginia, possibly Kanawha County. He fought for the South in the Civil War ­ was captured by the North and put in jail in Gallipolis, Ohio across the river from Wheeling, WV. He alerted people during a

fire in the jail and was given the opportunity to be freed (for his heroism) if he'd fight for the North. After the war, his family wouldn't take him back, so he took off towards the west. (this is all taken straight from my mother's stories, so I'm not sure where history has been embellished)

He took a barge loaded with whiskey up the Ohio River then up the Missouri and just outside Omaha it was shipwrecked. He started walking back home (east) working as a tile­ditcher along the way. He got as far as Moscow, Iowa where he met Emma Jane Nellis, got married and went to Bluegrass, Iowa (Scott County). Apparently he was cited for helping to drain all of that county. Being a veteran, he and his wife later moved to Marshalltown, Iowa to the "old soldier's home" and that's where they are buried.

Linda Watson, 1686 Las Piedras Court, Los Gatos, CA, 95030.


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VAN BIBBER WILLS, MARRIAGES, ETC.

By Brenda Blessinger <[email protected]>

Maryland Calendar of Wills, Vol. 5 1720­1726 by Baldwin

Van Bebber, Isaac (aged about 62) Cecil Co.

14th Sept., 1723; 25th Nov., 1723

Sons: Jacob, Peter and Isaac, daughters: Hester wife of Jacob GOODIN,

Christian and Veronica. Test: James Vanbebber 18,187

Vol. VII 1732­1738

Vanbebber (Van Bebber), Henry 13th Aug., 1733; 12 May 1736

Will in Dutch. Test: Matthias Vanbibber

Memo: For interesting proceedings in regard to estate of above see T.P. V 30, F. 107, 154

Vanbebber (Van Bebber), Henry, Holland, 28th Ari720; Cecil Co., 11th Sept

1736 (On journey to America with youngest daughter Hester)

Mary, Mathias, Hester now 17, Catherine and Huybert. 23rd Sept 1721­

Codicil­Bohemia R., MD - Daughter, Catherine wife of Jacob Hoefnagel, Hester and

Jacobus. Eldest son Jacobus and dau Hester exs. of estate in America. Test: Math. Van Bibber.

Vol. 1738­1743

Vanbebber, Mathias, gent., Cecil Co. 3rd Aug 1739; 1st Oct 1739

Wife Hermana, sons: Jacob, Adam, Mathias, Henry. Daugs: Sarah, Rebecca,

Chrisitan, Hester.

Cal. MD of Wills 1744­1749 by Cotton

Van Bebber, Harmana 11 Sept 1745; 2 Dec 1745 - Two younger sons, Matthias, Henry. Sons Jacob and Adam; daughter Rebecca and Hester NAUDINE. Jacob and Adam guardian of two sons Matthias and Henry.

MD Cal of Wills 1748­1753 by Cotton

Van Bebber, James Cecil Co., 15 Dec 1750; 26 Feb ____; Eldest son Henry, 3rd son Isaac, 2nd son Jacob, sons Isaac, Jacob, Stephen, Abraham daughters Catrin, Mary Ann David. Interesting note in this will....."Now my children, live peaceably amongst yourselves..... It is the gift of God

to all those who will sincerely seek after Him."

Cecil Co., Maryland Marriages....

Isaac Van Bibber to Ann CHEW, 27 Nov 1768

James Van Bebber to Anna LAROUN, _____ 1730

Matthias Van Bebber to Haramontie PETERSON, 17 Nov 1705

Greenbriar Co., VA Marriages....

Verona Vanbibber to George DICKENS, 20 Oct 1782

Peter Vanbibber to Elinor VANBIBBER, 29 June 1785

Peter Vanbibber to Sarah YOLKSOME, 22 July 1785

Kanawha Co., VA Marriage...

Mathias Vanbiber to Peggy HUCHISON, 15 April 1811

The Register of KY Historical Society ­ Summer 1983 Vol. 81 Mo. 3 page 237 has an article of Kentuckians in Texas. Page 250 ­ listed as survivors of the Massacre of Goliad ­ Sidney and Jon Van Bibber.

Revolutionary War Pension Applications...

Peter Van Bibber VA Line ­ S32566... Born 5 Aug 1757 Botetourt Co., VA, lived Greenbriar, moved to Ohio then Ripley Co., Ind. Died 8 Oct 1838.

James Van Bibber VA line R18641.... Born 8 May 1766, lived Greenbriar. 1803 moved from KY to MO. 1818 settles in Callaway Co., MO.

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GREENLEE - VAN BIBBER CONNECTION

By Jim Smith <[email protected]>

My mother's name was Greenlee. The Van Bibber line ties into the Greenlee tree with Rachel Greenlee, b 30 Jun 1779, when she married Jesse Van Bibber, b 8 Aug 1769 d 10 April 1852 in Mason County, West Virginia. This is data from the Book, "THE DESCENDANTS OF EDWARD GREENLEE OF WEST VIRGINIA" by William Clarkson Greenlee.

I quote the book, on Page 3

"For those who might be interested in the Van Bibber line the following information is furnished: Jesse Van Bibber was the son of Peter Van Bibber, who was born in Cecil County, Maryland, in 1730, died at Point Pleasant, Mason County, West Virginia, in 1796, and his wife Margary

Bounds, born about 1740, to whom he was married in 1756. Peter Van Bibber fought in the battle of Point Pleasant, against the Indians under Cornstalk, October 10 1774, which has been recognized as the first battle of the Revolution. He was the son of Peter Van Bibber who was born May 25, 1695 and was living on April 6, 1769. This Peter Van Bibber was the son of Isaac Jacob Van Bibber who was born in 1661, and his wife Veronica or Fronica. Isaac Jacob Van Bibber was the son of Jacob Isaac Van Bibber who died in September 1705, and his wife, Christina, who died September 4, 1711. Isaac Jacob Van Bibber was instrumental in the settlement of Germantown, Pennsylvania, in 1683. He appears to have come to the settlement about 1684 and his father and brother, Matthias, came about three years later."

I ran a descendancy chart of Old Jacob and in my Paf program, we get to the ninth generation (Greenlee). Names in the 7,8, and 9th generation are (including spouses): Smith, Hart, Cook, Miller, Cox, Forest, Harbert, Sayre, Armistead, Sears, Townsend, Purdy, Estes, Robbins, Peterson, Garnett, Snodgrass, and Tillis.

Jim Smith

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VAN BIBBER miscellaneous

By Brenda Besslinger <[email protected]>

.........From K. Knight ­ The only source I have is "the Spraker Book"

Isaac Van Bibber died 1774 in the Battle of Point Pleasant. Children: John, Peter, Isaac Jr., and Rebecca. Isaac Jr. born 20 Oct 1771 Greenbriar Co., VA dies 30 Sept 1840 Montgomery Co., MO married Elizabeth HAYS 1997 in KY. She was born 12 June 1776 Fort Boonesborough, KY dies 3 Aug 1828 Montgomery Co., MO. Children: Matilda, Susan, Marcha, Elvira, Frances, Erreta, Pantha, Isaac, Ewing and Alonzo. Have a little info on the marriages of these children if

anyone is interested. It is said that Isaac, Jr. was adopted and reared by Daniel Boone. Nathan Boone, who married Olive Van Bibber, went to claim his bride at the mouth of Little Sandy, "where Mr. Peter Van Bibber then lived."

(Draper Mss 6 S 118­254.) (They were married 13 Jan 1783)

Jessie Boone married Chloe Van Bibber daughter of James and Somoa Van Bibber

If you can find the following set of books the Van Bebber info is very interesting. Here are a few things from Vol 5.

Hardesty's WV Counties, Vol 5 pages 10­13, 46, 47

­­­­­Much about the Battle of Point Pleasant ­­­­­­­"1843, Henry Howe, the historian, was in Mason Co. and at the time paid a visit to the then aged pioneer, Capt. Jesse Van Bebber, then residing in Thirteen Mile Creek, who was a soldier in the Battle of Point Pleasant, and together with his brother Capt. John Van Bebber, was the earliest settlers in the county"­­­­­

"A few years after the close of the Rev., a daughter of Capt John Van Bebber, named Rhoda, aged 17 and Joseph Van Bebber, a young lad of 13, a brother of Capt. Jesse and John Van Bebber, had crossed over in a canoe to the west side of the Ohio, opposite Point Pleasant, on an errand to Rhoda's father then living temporarily in a house on that side of the stream" ­­­­­ Indians attack the house ­­­­­ Joseph was took prisoner to Detroit ­­­­­ Rhoda was scalped. Her scalp was divided into two parts and was sold for thirty dollars each. Joseph was with the Indians for two years.

In the autumn of 1788/9 Matthias age 18 and Jacob age 12 were waylaid by Indians a short distance from Point Pleasant. Matthias got away but Jacob was captured and spent about a year with the Indians before he was able to escape.

Late in life Capt. Jesse Van Bebber became a member of the Baptist Church. He died in 1847. Daughter Mrs. Tillis.

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Corrections to Vol. 1 No. 1

By Steve Smith <[email protected]

For the record: Jacob Isaac came to America in 1687; Isaac Jacob came to America in 1684;

one of the daughters married to Herman op den Graeff came in 1683; Matthias Jacob came with his father in 1687; younger brother Hendrick (Henry) came in 1720.

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NATHAN AND OLIVE (VAN BIBBER) BOONE GROUP SHEET

By Steve Smith <[email protected]>

Nathan BOONE, son of Daniel BOONE and Rebecca BRYAN

B. March 2, 1781 at BOONE's Station, Fayette County, Kentucky

M. Sep 26, 1799 at Little Sandy, Kentucky

D. Oct 16, 1856 at Ashgrove, Green County, MO.

Wife:

Olive VAN BIBBER, dau. of Peter VAN BIBBER, Jr., and Margery BOUNDS

B. Jan 13, 1783 in Greenbriar County, VA

D. Nov 12, 1858 in Ashgrove, Green Co., MO.

Nathan was active in Military: Positions; Captain, Major, Lt. Col. in 2nd. MO Dragoons & others.

Children:

1. James BOONE (Jul 3, 1800 St. Charles, MO.­ ) md. Aug 18, 1840 to Polly ALLEN

2. Delinda BOONE (Feb 3, 1802 St. Charles, Mo, ­ Sep 18, 1877 Hanover, IL), md. Rev. James CRAIG on Apr 29, 1819 at Femme Osage, St. Charles, MO. (James preached the funeral for Daniel BOONE.)

3. Jemima BOONE (Mar 17, 1804 ­ )md. Henry ZUMALT in 1824

4. Susan BOONE (Mar 8, 1806 ­ ) md. Joseph VAN BIBBER in St. Charles, MO.

on Mar 18, 1827. Joseph was the son of James VAN BEBBER and Jane IRVINE.

James VAN BEBBER was the son of Peter VAN BIBBER, Jr., and Margery BOUNDS.

(James was the brother to Olive VAN BEBBER/BOONE).

5. Nancy BOONE (Mar 4, 1808 ­ died young)

6. Emilia (Malinda?) BOONE (Sep 22, 1810 ­ died young)

7. Olive BOONE ( Mar 18, 1812 _ ) md. Philip ANTHONY

8. Benjamin Howard BOONE ( Mar. 15, 1814 ­ Feb 7, 1866) md. Mary E. STALLARD

on Mar 12, 1840 in St. Charles, Mo. Buried at Pleasant Hill Cem., Defiance, MO.

9. John Coburn (Coulter?) BOONE ( May 13, 1816 in MO.­ 1902 in CA.) md. Molly WARDLOW , md. 2nd. Nancy BRYSON/McQUARRY in 1867 in AR.

10. Levica (Lavina) BOONE (Jun 17, 1818 in MO.­ Jul 24, 1854) md. William CAWLFIELD.

11. Melcina (Melvina) BOONE (Apr 15, 1820 in MO­ Jun 16, 1900 in MO.) md. James HOWARD , md. 2nd. Franklin T. FRAZIER before 1850.

12. Mary BOONE (Jan 22, 1822 in St. Charles, MO. ­ Jun 13, 1914 in Ashgrove MO. ) md. Alfred HOSMAN on 23 Apr 1841.

13. Sarah BOONE ( ) md. Winfield WRIGHT.

14. Mahala (Mahaley) BOONE ( ), md. Robert C. PRINTY.

Sources: BOONE FAMILY, by Spracker; Pioneer Fam. of Mo., MO. Gazette; SOME

BOONE DESC., by OLIVER; 1850 Census of Green Co., MO., Mo. Historical

Soc. Records.

You can see from the above list the relation of Joseph VAN BIBBER to Susan BOONE. This would make them first cousins, as I see it.? I show the following children: Letitia VAN BEBBER who married three times: 1st. Arthur SHAVER, 2nd. Arthur BOLAND, and 3rd. James MAXWELL; James VAN BEBBER, who md. Caroline STALEY; and Sarah VAN BEBBER, who md. Alsey WOODARD. (Source: GREEN CO. MO Probate Records.)

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INTERNET SITES

By Lee Waters <[email protected]>

This is an interview with Mr. Jessie Van Bibber who "died in 1859 or 1860". The address is <https://sites.rootsweb.com/~wvkanawh/>. I found it under Early Settlements of Kanawha County. Found it very interesting.

By Bruce Logan with help from Helen Statts Harris <[email protected]>

This is a source for the Bounds family. The address is <http://www.math.clemson.edu/~rsimms/>

This is a source to learn more about the Labidist movement. The address is <http://clas.ufl.edu/anthro/scholarly/utopo-amer.html>

By Bruce Logan

This is the World Wide Web address for the Cecil Co., MD Historical Society. The address is <http://ssnet.com/~hscc/hist.html>

This is the World Wide Web address for the GenWeb site for Claiborn Co., TN and an article about George Yoakum and another article about Isaac Van Bibber by Steve Smith and Earl Quintrell. The address is <http://www.public.usit.net/tngenweb/claiborn.html>

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THE LABIDIST CONNECTION

By Steve Smith <[email protected]

"The Labadists on the Bohemia Manor"

Before the year was out, the two recluses were joined by Isaac VAN BEBBER, the younger, the nephew of Heinrich VAN BEBBER, who had crossed the ocean with the pilgrims. After a short sojourn at the cabin upon the Muhlbach, VAN BEBBER prevailed on BEISSEL to accompany him on a visit to the Labadist Community at Bohemia Manor, where had been established, in 1684, the first Protestant mystic community in the New World.

Young Isaac's chief object in this projected trip was evidently to visit his father, Isaac VAN BEBBER and kinsman Matthias VAN BEBBER, who now, in his advancing years, who clothed with judicial authority, while BEISSEL's interest lay in the mystical community, founded there by DANKARTS and SLUYTER almost forty years before.

The VAN BEBBERs were originally Mennonites, and came to this Province as such at an early date. The first to arrive was Isaac Jacob VAN BEBBER in 1684. He was a native of Crefeldt on the Rhine. In 1687 he was joined by his father, Jacob Isaac VAN BEBBER, and his brother Matthias, and later by other members of the family.

They first settled in Germantown, but did not all remain there. The elder removed to Philadelphia in 1698 and engaged in mercantile pursuits. Matthias settled on the Schippach in 1702, and in 1704, together with his elder brother Isaac Jacob, and a number of others from Germantown, removed to the Bohemia Manor.

From the fact that these men are frequently referred to as Isaac Jacobs, Jacob Isaacs and Matthias Jacobs, some writers have assumed that they were German Jews. Such, however, is not the case. They were Mennonites, but, like many others of the early settlers, after their sojourn in the Province, they became somewhat unsettled as to their faith. This is shown by the report sent

by Johnan Gottfried SEELIG, one of the original Pietists, who arrived in 1694, to SPENER, wherein, writing of Jacob Isaac VAN BEBBER, he states: "He was formerly a Mennonite, but he desirtes to depart with his whole house, to acknowledge and abandon the follies, scandals, shortcomings and stains of his former religion."

It was this spiritual unrest which evidently induced the VAN BEBBERs to remove to the Bohemia Manor, where at that time the Labidist Community was at the height of its development.

Upon the arrival of the party at the Bohemia Manor they at once stated to erect several buildings, the chief one being known as the "Great House." Several families soon arrived from Wiewerd followed by SLUYTER's wife, who, as abbess, presided over the women. Some converts also came from New York. Thus was founded in North America a branch of the Labadist Community of Waltahouse, of which SLUYTER proclaimed himself bishop, under YVON, Archbishop of Wiewerd.

The settlement at Bohemia never numbered over one hundred, men , women and children all told, mostly novices of probationers, whose faith was to be tried by a very sever system of discipline and mortification. Fire, for example, was not permitted in their cells in the coldest weather, though there was so much wood about them that they were forced to burn it in order to be rid of it.

They were to live hidden in Christ. All desires of the flesh were to be subdued. A former minister herded cattle; a young man of good family carted stone or bent over a wash­tub. Food to which they had repugnance must be eaten, and sins confessed in open assembly. There were different grades to be attained in conformity to the principles and discipline of the society.

Punishments were the deprivation of clothes, taking a lower seat at the table and expulsion. The highest rank, that of brother, was gained by total separation from the world. They took their meals in silence, so that men ate together for months at the same table without knowing each other's names. The men and women ate at different tables. They slept in different rooms which the head or his substitute might visit at all times for examination or instruction.

They labored on the land, and at different trades or employments assigned by the head. Their dress was plain, all worldly fashions being prohibited as well as luxuries of all kinds. They worked for the Lord and not for themselves­­not to gratify their desires, but merely to sustain life. All property was held as common stock, into which all joining the community put what they owned and left it when they withdrew.

The geographical position f the Labidist settlement was originally in Baltimore county, now Cecil county, on the north bank of the Bohemia river, embracing several thousands of fertile acres. The Bohemia river empties into the Elk, which flows into Chesapeake bay. The house or mansion of Herrman was destroyed by fire, but the foundations are visible within a few hundred feet of the river. The remains of his deer park can also be seen. His body was removed to the Bayard vault, a short distance from the old mansion, and when this was abandoned for another vault in Wilmington. No mark was left of his burial place. An oolite slab in the yard of another house, built after the burning of the first, records the memorial of "Augustine HERRMAN, Founder and Seater of Bohemia Manor."

It has been stated, upon different occasions, that here was some similarity in doctrine between the Labadists and the Quakers; also that LABADIE and William PENN were at Oley and Frederick as a recluse. Becoming acquainted with the Moravians, he removed to Bethlehem in 1746. Two years later, Oct 15, 1748, he died, and was buried among the single men on the hill.

In the meantime VAN BEBBER's health became impaired by the rigorous life pursued by BEISSEL and his companions, so he, too, felt constrained to leave the cabin on the Muhlbach. BEISSEL was loth to lose him, and the parting was a painful one, as noted in the "Chronicon":

"He took leave of the Superintendent (BEISSEL) with much love, and protested that it was not possible for him live in that way. The former gave him the following counsel to take with him: 'Know that when you are successful in the world, God has forsaken you; but when all misfortune comes upon you here, then know that God still loves you.' After many years he froze both hands and feet in s shipwreck and was put under the care of Christopher WITT in

Germantown. There he remembered this farewell, and sent his last greeting to his old friend."

Shortly after the departure of the two hermits, STUNTZ, who had been the capitalist of the party, during the temporary absence of BEISSEL, sold the cabin on the Muhlbach to Joseph GIBBONS, a son of James GIBBONS, who in the meantime had purchased the Wartnaby Tract upon which the cabin was built.

(HENDRICK/HEINRICH VAN BEBBER was a brother of Isaac Jacobs and Matthias Jacobs

VAN BEBBER. He married Catherine/Katrina Ann BOUGARD. He was born in Utrech,

Holland and came to America in 1720­1721. He had been a wealthy coffee merchant in Holland before coming. He was very wealthy. He settled in Cecil County, Maryland where he died in 1733, leaving a will there that is written in Dutch. The English name is Henry VAN BEBBER.

This Henry VAN BEBBER had an oldest son names Jacobus, (James in English), that married Ann LARONS/LAROUN. Jacobus died at Bohemia Manor in Cecil County, Maryland. Jacobus (James) had a son named Henry VAN BEBBER, born July 22, 1729 in Cecil Co., Maryland. He married Hester GOODING (1737 ­ Nov 16, 1802), the daughter of Jacob GOODING. Henry's will was recorded in Cecil Co., MD. Hester is buried in Northend Cemetery, Mathews Co., VA. They had children: Andrew, James, and Henry, Jr. VAN BEBBER.

Jacobus also had children: Catherine, Anna, Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham. Many of

these people can be seen among the records of the wealthy of the county, dealing

in shipping and other industries of the area. Steve Smith).

Steve SMITH

213 Reagan Street

Cumberland Gap, TN 37724

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SPECIAL REQUEST

By Kathleen O'Kelley <[email protected]>

Was glad to see your message about the newsletter.

Last week I had a power failure while I was cleaning up some of the files in this Jun program. I don't remember what I was doing at the time but it must have had something to do with delete, as I lost every thing that I had moved to individual folders to keep till I had more time to work

with it.

I lost the last newsletter as well as most of my addresses. All of the information that people had sent to the board as well as the personal mail, and my copy of what I had sent out to others. This was on about 50 families that I work on and with. There was also some network problems and I missed some of my messages. Believe me, I now print every thing that I even think I may need later, as soon as I read it on the screen. Jun folders must not be very secure or I just don't know how to make them permanent until I delete them.

I would appreciate it if you could send me another copy of the first newsletter. I need it to know what I sent last time, so I can write something different this time for you to use if you need it.

I would like to request the other list members to resend me the information that they had previously sent me on Van Bibbers, Boones, and Bolins or Bolens. I know this is a lot of trouble for you but I am desperate to think that you had been so kind to me and now it is all

gone. My PAF files all seem to be ok.

Thanks so much for your kindness. Kathleen

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QUERIES

Jim Boales <[email protected]>

I'm looking for a connection to OLIVER, SAMPSON families. My Ggrandmother, Rebecca Melissa OLIVER b. 4 Oct 1857 in MO. (mother SAMPSON, gr.mother? VAN BIBBER or CALLAWAY, then BOONE,) Married 9 Dec 1877 to John Miles Devall BLAND b. 4 Jul 1845 in Hardin KY. She told my great uncle Bert of the Boone ­ Callaway ­ Van Bibber ­ Sampson line. No records yet. After passing down orally for two generations, I've found the Boone ­ Callaway ­ Van Bibber portion valid, so expecting with legwork to verify rest. Have details on families of Jemima Boone/Flanders Callaway, Nathan Boone/Olive Van Bibber, Jesse Boone/Chloe Van Bibber, but looking for 3rd/4th generation info for links. Tracing each offshoot. Also could be collateral lineage.

"About 1803 or '04 Joseph Scholl, (husband of Levina Boone,) Jesse B. Boone, David Denton and one Van Bibber" visited Missouri (Boone book by H. Spraker.) Anyone know which Van Bibber this was?

Jim Boales, Santa Cruz, CA

Hal McCawley <[email protected]>

Searching for the Peter VanBIBBER that m my aunt Lois SEE ca 1760-80 in Hardy or Greenbrier Co, WV and later moved to KY. My SEE and YOAKUM families were in Hardy Co, WV in 1740s and some went on to Greenbrier Co, WV by 1760 where some died in the 1763 Muddy Creek Massacre. By 1810 most had gone either into KY or West into Charleston area of Kanawha Co, WV and later to Mason Co, WV at Point Pleasant.

New Member Hal McCawley in Foster City, CA

Greg Engler <[email protected]>

Subject: Bennie Williams and Elizabeth Vanbibber-Nethercutt

Does anyone have data on the Williams line and on the marriage of Elizabeth to Bennie or to a Nethercutt?

I would also like to obtain a listing of Ezekiel's brothers children to ascertain whether there was another Elizabeth Vanbibber. Then if we find two Elizabeth's we could have one who married William Nethercutt and one who could have married Bennie Williams. Then all we would have to figure out is which Elizabeth married who. Otherwise I am inclined to believe that Elizabeth married twice, first to William Nethercutt based on the births of children.

Greg Engler

Bob Lynn <[email protected]>

Information wanted on family and location of John Van Bibber born 1793 and his wife Martha (maiden name unknown) born 1797, somewhere in Kentucky. They were the parents of Absulum Van Bibber born 1830 in Kentucky and Mary Van Bibber born 1831 in Kentucky. Absulum Van Bibber subsequently moved to Pope County, Illinois where he died. 4400 Trapline Drive, Anchorage, AK Phone (907) 346-4447.

Ken Brice <[email protected]>

Jacob Isaac Van Bibber came from Holland to Germantown (Runk's, Scharf's, and Runk's Tombstones). I do not know who he married. They had a son, do not have info on other children, Matthias in late 1600's. Wife unknown. Matthias had a daughter named Rebecca who married Jacob Cazier. Jacob Cazier's homstead was called "White Hall" in Pencader Hundred (History of Delaware, pg.948-950). Would like any info that may help in researching

this line.

Ken Brice

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