Van Bibber Pioneers Electronic Newsletter
Volume 3, Number 11 · September 1999
Van Bibber Pioneers Electronic Newsletter
Volume 3, Number 11 · September 1999
Greetings:
This was the most difficult newsletter that I have published to date, because of computer problems. First, the C: drive fell under 100 megabytes of space, so I decided to install a larger hard drive and copy the files from the old C: drive to the new C: drive but that proved to be most difficult and took much more time that anticipated. Then it took some major reinstalling of old programs and parameters to get my computer back to where it was prior to the installation of the new drive. Nevertheless, the computer is pretty close to it�s original state, without all the errors and crashes and I am ready to continue my research and publishing of the newsletter again.
The lesson I see in this small difficulty, is that it pays to have the largest hard drive you can afford, but the original 1.2 gigabyte drive seemed sufficient back in 1996. The next computer I buy well have at least a 10 gigabyte drive and 5 gigs of that will be partitioned for Windows or what ever operating system I happen to be using at the time.
My thanks to everyone who sent material for this newsletter again making it an informative and interesting journal.
We now have two hundred and fifty-eight subscribers.
The editor reserves the right to edit contributions to the newsletter.
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CONTENTS
New Subscribers and Change of Address
Success Story
Dutch Web Pages
Correction
A Letter From Freida Arnold
Another Success Story
Illinois Van Bibber/Van Bebber, Etc. Marriages
The Up De Graff Family
William H. Baker
Obituary
In Search Of John Harrison Vanbibber's Grave
Queries
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NEW SUBSCRIBERS
Donald Ray Johnson ([email protected])
Suzy Van Bebber ([email protected])
Alice Schurman ([email protected])
David Van Bibber ([email protected])
Terrye Jones Lambert ([email protected])
Theresa Van Bibber Ames ([email protected])
Renee Hubbell Carlson ([email protected])
A. C. Hickox ([email protected])
Rhonda Berry ([email protected])
CHANGE OF ADDRESS
Michael Knue ([email protected])
Tim Reese ([email protected])
Barry Van Beber ([email protected])
Pam Parker ([email protected])
Brenda Kriz ([email protected])
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SUCCESS STORY
By David J. Brown
The last Newsletter boggled my mind! There was help for me in finding out information about Jane Williams Van Bibber (1805-1872), my great-great-grandmother and wife of David Campbell Robinson Van Bibber. Her parent's names! Hugh and Jane Williams! I looked up the Nicholas County 1850 census in John Bobbitt's book, "Families in 1850 of Clay, Nicholas, and Webster Counties West Virginia", and there they were! Hugh, born in 1767, age about 83, and Jane, born in 1776, age about 74.
In Bobbitt's book, "Families of Nicholas County West Virginia", Hugh, was listed in the 1840 census as "Male over 60". One female, "Age over 60" was included in his household. Hugh, in the 1830 census, was listed in the class of "Males over 60". In his household was listed one female "Age over 60", one male 10-15, one and male 15-20. By that time my great-great-grandmother was already married. (1824) and was listed in the David Van Bibber household as "Female 20-30".
In the 1820 census, Hugh's household included three males under 10, one male over 45, two females 10-16, one female 16-26, and one female 26-45.
A review indicates that more than one "Hugh" may have been involved in the various censuses.
This is the total extent of information that I have about this family. Up until these recent items, the extent of knowledge that I had about Jane was her name and age at death. Any help would be deeply appreciated.
Dave Brown
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DUTCH WEB PAGES
By Tho Strik
Roots to the past
http://members.tripod.com/~westland/index.htm
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/vermeer/2/index.html
Dutch Visitor Center
http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/Netherlands.html
Dutch Home Pages by Familyname
http://members.tripod.com/~Don_Arnoldus/index.html
Westlands Streek- en Tuinbouw museum
http://www.caiw.nl/~tstrik/index.htm
Tho Strik
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CORRECTION
By Wayne Van Bevers ([email protected])
On the marriage section under Texas, you have George W. VanBebber married to Hattie Reynolds in Collin Co. 1940. That is my great uncle. His name is George W. VanBevers.
Wayne Van Bevers
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A LETTER FROM FREIDA ARNOLD
By David J. Brown ([email protected])
Just received a letter from Freida Arnold, and a part of it might be included. I sent her a copy of the Newsletter article about Moses Hill Van Bibber. This was part of her response.
"The Newsletter about Moses Hill Van Bibber was interesting. He was my G. Grandfather and he did go west from W. Va. with two sons David and Ed and left his wife here with my Grandpa Joseph Franklin. He (Joseph Franklin)married and bought a farm in Clay Co. W. Va. He and his wife Nancy Arbelle Drake had five children, Elizabeth, Maggie, Hale, Loranze and Benjamin, my Dad....I haven't seen or found anything of Moses and his two sons. I'd love to know what happened to them and if I have any relatives that I don't know I have. I know now that G. Grandpa did marry
again and that he had some other children. Maybe I can find some........"
Freida's daughter recently held a small Van Bibber reunion in their area. Forty-
two people attended, many of whom she has never seen before.
Freida doesn't have E-mail capability, but I would be happy to forward any information her unknown relatives might have.
Dave Brown
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ANOTHER SUCCESS STORY
By David J. Brown ([email protected]) and Jim Staley ([email protected])
Jim,
I hope I have something for you. What I have is a copy of a letter written by James D. Van Bibber to my grt-grt uncle, Nathan Boone Van Bibber concerning a rifle supposedly given to Matthias (Tice) Van Bibber by Daniel Boone. I hope this is the person you are looking for. The copy of the letter I have was furnished by Mary Duffe of the Oklahoma Historical Society many years ago. The letter was in their extensive Van
Bibber file.
Many years ago we visited Ash Grove MO and the Van Bibber/Boone relations and returned for a visit during one of the historical celebrations, named "Rendezvous" after the trapper/Native American get-togethers in the past, in Ash Grove. During that visit I went to the Springfield library and looked up a book, "Past and Present of Greene
County Missouri, Volume II" by Jonathan Fairbanks and Clyde Edwin Tuck. In that book were some pages (starting at 1563) devoted to James D. Van Bibber. According to the book, James D. VB was born May 3, 1828 at Liberty, Clay Co. Missouri. His grandfather was Joseph Van Bibber.
Joseph's son, also named Joseph, was born in Greenbriar Co. VA, (now WV)
in 1797 and was three years old when brought to Calloway Co., MO. The second Joseph married Susan Boone, daughter of Nathan and Olive Van Bibber Boone. James was orphaned at age 13 and then lived with his grandparents, Nathan and Olive Van Bibber Boone. He married, in 1854, Caroline Staly, daughter of Alfred and Lucinda (Brower) Staley. They had two children, Alfred and Laura. A separate sketch on Alfred is also
supposed to be in that book. Due to copying limitations at the library, I have only the first two pages. The last word on the second page, is "Laura". Isn't it amazing, and challenging? I would love to have the missing page(s). I have no doubt that you, or someone you can contact near there, will go tearing off to the Springfield Library. In any case I will be happy to send you copies of what I have.
The letter to Nathan Boone Van Bibber is almost illegible, again due to the limitations of copy making at the time I received it.
This is an attempt at deciphering it.
Nichols Mo.
January 8th 1898
N. B. Van Bibber
Charlestown W. Va.
Dear Sir:
I got what I supposed to be your address by reading a piece in the St. Louis Republican, concerning a gun which Daniel Boone gave to Matthias Tice Van Bibber, who I suppose, from statements in said paper, was your grandfather My father was born in Greenbriar County , Now W. Va., in 1797, and was a son of James Van Bibber-
My mother was a daughter of Nathan Boone and Olive Van Bibber Boone, my mother and father being first cousins.
My Grandfather Van Bibber had a brother Tice so I suppose we must be
(illegible)
My object in writing is (illegible, "learning"?) something of my ancestors in (rest of sentence illegible, possibly "Moan W. Va.")
I learned that there is a book in the (illegible word) in Va. giving a history of Daniel Boone and Van Bibbers crossing the mountains on their trip moving west-- If there is such a book or any history that will give any account of our ancestors please let me know where I can get one and what it will cost and I will send the necessary amount at once.
Will write more if I hear from you.
Respectfully,
James D. Van Bibber
Nichols, Greene County
Missouri"
My family tradition is that "some old time Van Bibber", my Grandma Lucy Van Bibber Brown told me when I was 10, gave it to a museum and the museum later burned down. The rifle story has always fascinated me and in later years I received a copy of a picture of my grt.-grt-grandfather, David C.R. Van Bibber, holding that rifle. Other data I
have received since gives me the impression that the rifle was given to a museum by Nathan but was later withdrawn. By this time I have the feeling that there have been more than one "Daniel Boone rifles" and more than one museum/historical societies involved with Van Bibber/Boone rifles. I have some data that indicates O. D. Hill donated one. An
interesting mystery for me.
Since that time, I obtained Grandma Brown's copy of a newspaper article about Nathan returning to WV on a visit from his home from Oklahoma written in 1917. That also refers to the rifle. The clipping is probably from the Nicholas County Chronicle. This is the article.
"OLD PIONEER STOCK
Mr. Nathan Van Bibber, who left Nicholas county about fifteen years ago and is now a resident of Edmond, Okla., has been, for several days past, visiting old friends and acquaintances in this county.
Mr. Van Bibber was born and raised in what is now Summersville district and for 61 years made his home on a farm near the place of his birth. He comes from old pioneer stock. His grandfather, Matthias Van Bibber, and Daniel Boone hunted and trapped and fought the Indians in Southern West Virginia. "Van Bibber's Rock", near Kanawha Falls, was named for Matthias Van Bibber.
David C. R. Van Bibber, father of Nathan, own a large tract of land on Camp Fork of Peter's Creek, His old home is now owned by Mr. R. M. Bryant.
His sons Matthias, Moses H., Jas. Oudin D. (actually Andrew Donnally), Nathan and Davis Van Bibber were born and raised on the old homestead. Nathan and John C. (Jack) are the only ones of the family now living. As far as we can learn there is only two of David Van Bibber's descendants in this county, Mrs. Daniel Young, daughter of Matthias Van Bibber, and Mrs. J. B. Carden, a daughter of Andrew Van Bibber.
The descendants of Moses H., Nathan and John C. are lifng (?) in the (?) Nathan Van Bibber gave the Historical Society of West Virginia Daniel Boone's rifle, which up to that time had been in the possession of David C. Van Bibber and himself."
Dave Brown
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ILLINOIS VAN BIBBER/VAN BEBBER, ETC. MARRIAGES
By Bruce Logan ([email protected])
Van Bibber Other County Date
BEBBER, AUGUST W SEEHOFFER, ROSA COOK 03/13/1890
BEBBER, HENRY J KUHNNEN, BARBARA COOK 09/09/1891
BEBBER, HENRY R HABBEN, LAURA COOK 03/16/1884
BIBBER, ROBERT GREENLEAF, MARTINE L COOK 04/09/1874
VANBEBBER, CLARENCE W CONLEE, EMILY J GREENE 03/04/1896
VANBEBBER, CLARK FREE, CATHARINE (COULD BE 11/4) CARROLL 12/11/1848
VANBEBBER, GEORGE OLDS, LIZZIE MARY WHITESIDE 06/03/1880
VANBEBBER, GEORGE W JACKSON, MARY MACOUPIN 02/18/1854
VANBEBBER, HENRY CANNEDY, ELLA GREENE 09/18/1879
VANBEBBER, JAMES D ROBERTS, LETTIE ANN MACOUPIN 04/20/1882
VANBEBBER, JAMES H HICKS, MARTHA J MACOUPIN 11/05/1868 VANBEBBER, JOHN H ROBERTS, LAURA GREENE 02/07/1900
VANBEBBER, ROBERT ROBERTS, LAURA MACOUPIN 02/18/1882
VANBEBBER, ROBERT EDWARDS, MARY MORGAN 08/22/1869
VANBEBBER, SUMNER P KITCHEN, OLLIE E MORGAN 06/28/1899
VANBEBBER, WILLIAM M SANDERS, ELIZA GREENE 03/31/1853
VANBEBER, A CLARK PARKINSON, CRESSIE E CARROLL 06/24/1885
VANBEBER, ROBERT M JACKSON, SARAH E MACOUPIN 12/19/1857
VANBEVER, RICHARD WEAVER, MARY SCHUYLER 09/06/1855
VANBEVERS, ALONZO GREEN, MARY ELLEN SCHUYLER 09/11/1884
VANBIBER, ANDY JOINER, ELIZABETH POPE 04/29/1886 VANBIBER, JOHN G CLAYTON, FANNY GALLATIN 07/01/1894
VANBIBER, JOHN GREEN (18) COLLIER, MARY C. (15) POPE 03/05/1876 VANBIBER, NOAH FORRESTER, ALPHA GALLATIN 01/05/1895
VAN BIBBER, JESSEE YEWELL, ELIZABETH POPE 09/23/1846
VAN BEBBER, A D STULTS, ELLA MACOUPIN 08/18/1896
VAN BEBBER, EDDIE DOWLAND, LILLIE B MACOUPIN 09/06/1899
VAN BEBBER, JOHN M GENNETTE, MARY COOK 12/28/1882
Bruce Logan
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THE UP DE GRAFF FAMILY
By Eileen G. Gebhart (Non subscriber) ([email protected])
(With permission of Eileen G. Gebhart)
THE UP DE GRAFF FAMILY
(Revision)
The known ancestry of Sythe UpdeGraff, wife of 1)John Krey 2)Hupert1 Kassel, begins with Herman1 Isaaksz UpdeGraff, a prominent linen weaver and merchant of Kreyfeld, Germany. He was born on 26 November 1585 of Mennonite parents in the village of Aldekerk, Lower Rhine, County of Muir, Germany; a village with a Dutch name and Dutch inhabitants about twelve miles from Krefeld, near the Holland border. Although the prefix "Upde" (op den) indicates a name of Dutch origin, he was a citizen of Kempen (near Krefeld) 1605 where he married a Mennonite maid, Grietje Plitjes (Gertrude Peters), on 16 August 1606. They moved to Krefield, only 2 miles from Aldekerk, where Herman1 was a delegate from the Krefield District to the "Dortrecht" Council, held on 21 April 1632. It was at this Council meeting that the first Mennonite Confession of Faith was formulated. Herman1 was one of the signers. He died on 27 December 1642 in Krefeld, Germany.
Grietje Plitjes, wife of Herman1 , was born 26 November 1588 at Kempen, Holland or Germany, and died 17 January 1643 at Krefeld. She was the daughter of Pletjes Driessen and Alet Goebels of Kempen; another small town halfway between Aldekerk and Krefeld..
Pletjes Driessen, born about 1550, died 27 December 1645, and Alet Goebels had another daughter, Alet Pletjes, who married a Mr. Jasper and had a daughter Margaret Jasper, wife of Admiral Sir William Penn (1621-1670). Their son, William Penn, born 1644 Tower Hill, London, England, died 1718, was the English Quaker and founder of Pennsylvania. (William Penn was the grandnephew of Herman1's wife, Grietje.)
There is in the Kreyfeld Museum, stained glass window panes, dated 1630, with Herman1's and Grietje's names on them. It is believed the panes were originally in their house. By 1894, the window panes were in the Kaiser-Wilhelm Museum at Kreyfeld. In 1940, the panes were in the Krefelder Heimat Museum at Burg Linn. During World War II, the panes mysteriously disappeared, only to turn up at an auction in Stuttgart, Germany. Fortunately, they were purchased privately and returned to Kreyfeld. The translation of the original Lower German Rhine dialect text on these window panes, is as follows:
Fearing God, being pious
and having proper behavior,
being happy, friendly
and true in speech,
that is Christian and
is pleasing to the Lord,
will bring good will and endow
many a person with great honor.
Hermen op den Graff
and Gretchen
his wife
Anno 1630.
Herman1 's only son, Isaac Hermans, while born to Mennonite parents, was converted along with his family to Quakerism and endured the fines and harassment inflicted on the Quakers in the Rhineland . He married a Ms. Janson. They had 18 sons and daughters of whom four; Herman, Dirck, Abraham and Margaret, became Quakers and pioneers in the settlement of Germantown, Pennsylvania, while others remained among the Mennonites.
After Isaac�s death, his widow, with her 3 sons and daughter, sent out for Pennsylvania. On their way through Rotterdam in June 1683, the 3 brothers purchased jointly through Penn's agents, Jacob Telner and Benjamin Furly, 2000 acres of land in what would become Germantown, PA. The Up de Graff family boarded the English schooner "Concord" at Rotterdam on 24 July 1683, bounded for Philadelphia. Although the voyage was long, lasting 74 days, it was a relatively comfortable one with little illness among the passengers, no deaths, and two births.
Arriving in Philadelphia on 6 October 1683, the family proceeded with twelve other Mennonite families to a place 6 miles north of Philadelphia. This was to become Germantown where the brothers settled on adjoining lots, set up their Krefeld trade of linen weaving and proceeded to participate in public and religious affairs. The Up de Graeff brothers were largely responsible for making Germantown famous for "very fine German Linen, such as no person of Quality need be ashamed to wear." Although followers of the Mennonite faith, they affiliated with the Germantown Quakers.
Isaac's widow died in that city shortly after their arrival and was buried there before the Germantown settlement was completed. This news is given in a letter from her son Herman2 to a correspondent in Holland, and dated in Germantown 12 February 1684.
Children of Isaac Hermans Up de Graff, born 1616, died January 1679, and Ms. Janson, died 19 November1683:
1. Derick Isaacs Up de Graff, the eldest son, died May 1697, married Nöleken Vijten in Krefeld. Was the leader of the 13 heads of families and 33 colonists who settled in Germantown in 1683. Signer of first anti-slavery petition, Germantown burgess, committeeman and bailiff.
2. Herman2 Isaac Up de Graff, (1642-1708) married Deborah Van Bebber (died 1727).
3. Abraham Isaac Up de Graff, youngest son, married Catharina. Signer of first anti-slavery petition, committeeman, burgess in 1692, member of colonial assembly in 1689, 1690 and 1692. Buried in the Mennonite graveyard near Evansburg, PA. Part of his Germantown land (50 acres) was conveyed in 1690 to Jacob shoemaker, who conveyed it in 1693 to the Germantown Friends for their first meeting house. Children:
1. Isaac Up de Graff.
2. Jacob Up de Graff.
3. Margaret Up de Graff, married Thomas Hose, a tailor in Germantown.
4. Anne Up de Graff, married Herman in de Hoffen.
4. Margaret Up de Graff, married in Germantown after her mother's death, Pieter Schumacher, son of Pieter Schumacker, the Elder.
FIRST UP DE GRAFF GENERATION
Our immigrant ancestor, Herman2 Isaac Up de Graff, was an exile in 1679 because of his Quaker association and one of the two authors of the pamphlet "Remonstrance", written in Dutch and published in Rotterdam and Amsterdam in 1680, describing the persecution of Quakers. The pamphlet is dated "Holland, the 22nd. of the 2nd. Month, 1680", and in English reads:
"Friends, it is three weeks today since we and two others of our Friends, together with a woman and her infant child, were led by armed men out of the City and Jurisdiction of Kreveld, without our knowing any just reason or cause therefor. Having wandered for some days in the vicinity we felt some freedom to go, for our refreshment, to make a short journey to Holland, to visit our Friends there. Then, just as we felt a freedom to do that, so we now feel impelled to return to Kreveld, to resume our occupations for the sustenance of our temporal lives, and to continue as hitherto in our dealings and intercourse with you, in modesty and in the fear of the Lord. On the other hand, it has occurred to us that perhaps some might erroneously imagine that we should not return to that place whence, as stated above, we were expelled by force; hence we have deemed it necessary, not only for the anticipation of all kinds of erroneous suppositions, but also for the instruction of all who may be concerned therewith, to give in a few words some reasons for our conduct.
"We believe that it is known to every resident of Kreveld that I, Herman Isaaks, have been born and bred there, and that I, Henrik Jansz, have resided there for about six years past; that we have earned our livelihood by our own hands, without having been a charge or burden upon anyone: and much less have we been conscious of causing anyone loss or injury through trickery, fraud, or violence, or of having given anyone the slightest reason for resentment by leading an evil life. We touch briefly upon these facts in passing, so as to induce everyone to reflect upon what reasons could possibly justify our being expelled in such manner from our birth-place and home. As far as we are concerned, we must say that we have requested, indeed, a copy of the charges against us, but that none has yet been given us.
"When a thief, robber, violator of the peace, or some such person is expelled from a city of country, ought he not to be convicted previously of his misdeeds, either by his own confession, or by impartial witnesses? Should not his sentence be read to him publicly? Should not a statement of his crimes be made in his sentence? And if he requests a copy thereof, should it not be given him? We, on the contrary, have not been convicted of any crime, and no copy of our sentence has been granted us, although we have requested the same, orally and in writing. Now, would we like to have any citizen or resident so treated,-even though they may have been hitherto unknown to us?
"It is true that we have learned indirectly that the three following pretexts have been urged against us as reasons for our treatment: First, that we do not yield due respect to the authorities; second, that we renounce the outward sacraments; third, that we hold separate conventicles. Our Friends have often been subjected to similar wicked accusation, especially in the year 1675 by the magistrates of Embden. These have been so clearly disproven by letters and short replies written to them by one and another of our Friends, that no further contradiction of them is needful."
The authors go on to make a brief reply to the accusation, citing the fact that Charles II did not resent the wearing of hats in his presence by the Friends, that they observe the true baptism and Lord's Supper, but not the outward ones, and as to the third charge: "It was made against the Reformed a century ago. We only wait in silence upon the Lord, to feel his powerful working upon our spirits. And who is injured or offended thereby? If anyone come to us, we do not prevent them; if no one come, we do not fetch and much less compel them."
Then follows an appeal for justice to the sheriff, the magistrates, the inhabitants of Kreveld and the ministers of religion: "Remember the invasion of the French a few years ago, when they lay so close to Kreveld: would you have been permitted to dwell side by side with their mass-saying? May they not come again? Should you not do justice to receive justice? Remember how our ancestors strove against the Catholics for religious liberty. The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church,-as old Prince William of Orange stated in 1566. Even the Spanish Inquisition-masters know well now that their hidden tricks and traps, by means of which they made the magistrates the executors of their sentences, are thoroughly understood by other people, as is proven in the widely-known History of the Netherlands by the famous P.C. Hooft, published in the year 1656."
Readmitted to Krefeld, Herman2 attended the 1681 wedding of his brother Dirk.
In a letter written in Dutch, dated 12 February 1684, Herman2 describes his voyage to America and some account of the infant Philadelphia as follows:
"We sailed from England to America in six weeks. The blessings of the Lord did attend us so that we had a wonderfully prosperous voyage. Upon our whole voyage we did not experience as much inconvenience as between Holland and England..... Our number did not decrease upon the ocean, but was increased by two, a son and a daughter. The mothers were easy in labor and were soon well again." The land is described, with its allotments, trees and timber, grape-vines, pasturage, cattle and pigs; also "our city of Germantown," with its rivers and valleys. "The Indians show themselves very kind and friendly, and we live together with them very quiet and peaceable. We travel day and night through the forest without the least fear of them. Most of us have already our own habitations, and every day more good houses are being built, all of which pleases us greatly....We have begun to spin flax."
Once settled in Germantown, in addition to his part in the family's linen industry and farming his own land, Herman2 became the agent for the large land holdings of Jacob Telner and Dirk Sipman. When William Penn issued his charter incorporating Germantown on 12 August 1688, charters were given to the three UpdeGraff brothers and eight others. Herman2 become the first Town President. He later moved to the Perkiomen region, then to Kent County, MD, where he died in 1704.
Herman2 may have moved from Germantown because of his involvement in the "George Keith Controversy." George Keith, a belligerent Scottish Quaker with a violent temper, organized a separate society called "The Christian Quakers." Their discipline was stricter than the contemporary Quakers. In the 1692 Philadelphia Yearly Meeting, testimony was heard against Keith. As a result of this meeting, Keith and his followers were disowned.
In consequence of this, Herman2 as well as his brother Abraham, appears to have lost favor among his neighbors during the few remaining years of his life. His fences were condemned in 1696 as insufficient, and he is not recorded as having held any more elective offices.
Herman2 Isaac's wife, Deborah, was the daughter of Jacob Isaac VanBebber, a baker and merchant in Philadelphia who died there in 1711. Her brothers were Isaac Jacob VanBebber and Matthias VanBebber, "The Purchaser" who bought four or five thousand acres of land in the vicinity of Germantown and founded Bebber Township (later called Skippack in Montgomery County). Both of her brothers moved to Cecil County, Maryland.
The following Whittier poem on the Germantown settlement mentions "Opden Graff:"
"Or talking of old home scenes, Opden Graeff
Teased the low black log with his shodden staff,
Til the red embers broke into a laugh,
And dance of flame as if they feign would cheer,
The rugged face, half tender, half austere,
Touched with the paths of a homesick tear."
Herman2 Up de Graff and Deborah VanBebber's daughter Sytge, married 1)John Krey. Sytge then married 2)Hupert1 Kassel. Their son, Yelles2 Kassel, married Elizabeth Johnson..
Eileen G. Gebhart
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WILLIAM H. BAKER
By Gary R. Hawpe ([email protected])
Isaac VanBibber and Hester Op Den Graeff
Jacob Isaacs VanBibber and Christina ______________
Isaac Jacobs VanBibber and Frances Schumacher
Peter VanBibber and Anna _____________
Isaac VanBibber and Sarah Davis
Martha VanBebber and George Yoakum, Sr.
Isaac Yoakum and Mary Davis
John Yoakum and Rachel Grimes
Mary Ann Yoakum and Thomas Baker
William H. Baker and Mary C. Barnhart
An Illustrated History of Umatilla County by Colonel William Parsons and of Morrow County by W.S. Shiach, with brief outline of the early history of the State of Oregon. W.H. Lever, publisher 1902. Page # 412.
WILLIAM BAKER ---Although born in the east, yet the man whose name heads this
article has spent the major portion of his life in this state and all but his early boyhood days in this county, consequently he is classed as one of the sons of the west, a real energetic, upright and capable citizen, whose life of industry and wise enterprise has given him a portion of competency and a position of prominence.
His birth occurred in Ray county, Missouri, on July 24, 1858, whence, five years later, his parents came with ox and mule teams to lane county, this state, settling near Eugene. Here they were occupied with farming until 1869, when they removed to Umatilla county. Beginning in Lane county and then continued here, our subject received the training to be secured in the public schools and then entered the arena of life's struggles for himself, embarking in the stock raising industry. For twenty-five years he continued
at this business, achieving a good success, and then sold his entire interests in 1900 and purchased the business where we now find him, "The Popular Resort," on Main street, in Pendleton.
On October 23, 1899, the marriage of W. Baker and Miss Mary Barnhart occurred in Pendleton. To them have been born one child, Tracy, now in the Pendleton Academy. In his fraternal affiliations Mr. Baker is connected with the Masons, being a Master Mason; with the K.P. Damon Lodge, No. 4, of Pendleton, where he maintains a high standing and is esteemed by his colleagues. while in his every day life his hearty good will to all has won him a host of friends.
Gary R. Hawpe
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OBITUARY
Myrtle VanBibber � Portsmouth Daily Time, October 20, 1999
Myrtle Marie Nickel VanBibber, 82 of Delaware, Ohio, died Sunday, Oct 17 1999, at home.
She was born Jan. 7, 1917, in South Portsmouth, Ky., a daughter of the late Herbert and Mattie Dooley Nickell. She was a homemaker and a member of Lake Street Church of God of Delaware, Ohio.
She was preceded in death by her husband Cebert VanBibber in 1975. Surviving are three sons, John VanBibber of Columbus and Jim VanBibber of Whitehall; two daughters, Dr. Imogene Waddell of Munroe Falls and Jill Winston of Marysville; one half brother, Dr. Herbert Nickell of Wheelersburg; 11 grandchildren; and several great-grandchildren.
She also was preceded in death by one grandson.
Services will be held at 9:30 Thursday at Bennett, Brown and Rodman Funeral Home, 92 North Sandusky St., Delaware, with the Rev. Dan Maurer officiating, and graveside service at 2 p.m. Thursday at Memorial Burial Park in Wheelersburg.
Friends may call from 4 to 8 p.m. Wednesday at the funeral home.
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IN SEARCH OF JOHN HARRISON VANBIBBER'S GRAVE
By Billie Ruminer ([email protected])
All of Peter and Catherine Vanbibber's children had been accounted for except John H. Vanbibber their oldest son. I thought surely he had served in the Civil War as his two younger brothers had done. After writing to the Adjutant General, Texas Confederate Soldiers, Civil War, Austin, Texas, I was informed they had no record of him serving. A lady in Mountainair, NM sent me a history she had about some of the Vanbibbers and it stated John had come home with his wife and three children and it had been so long since they had seen him, his mother didn't know him. That was all I had been able to find.
Mr. Earl W. Quintrell, a Vanbibber Genealogical Researcher of Winchester, TN has helped me many times, even giving me enough evidence for me to prove two of the Vanbibber men who fought in the Rev. War as my direct ancestors. Well he came through again. He found a John H. Vanbibber in OR and Washington Territory. He also found he had fought in the Indian Wars so he sent to Washington DC for his military records. These records showed that his full name was John Harrison Vanbibber. That he was born January 17,1830 in St. Charles County, MO. He was five feet, five inches tall and had blue eyes and red hair. First he married Rhoda Johns and had four children. She divorced him and he married Mildred Younger. He and Mildred had five children. Even all the children�s names were given. They had traveled a great deal so there was lots of information in his file. He died February 6,1906 at Raymond, Madera County, CA.
I don't know why he went to Raymond. His wife continued to draw his war pension after his death and she reported they went to California because they could sleep outside and didn't have to rent a place to live. John wasn't a dummy. He could read and write. One of his attorneys wrote in his report that it wouldn't be wise to refuse John his pension as he would just take it to a higher court. Also he could charm anyone with his manner.
Eddie, my husband and I decided we would go to Raymond to look around as neither of us had been in that part of the country. Our son had been there and he said, "Mom, you will love it." So one morning in November of 1994 Eddie and I climbed into our motor home and headed north on the 99 freeway. At Fresno we took highway 41 and went to the town of Coarsegold. We wanted to go this route even if it was the long way. We took a little road that led us to Raymond. Raymond is back in the hills. The town consisted of a few stores or buildings and a Post Office. The Post Office seemed very popular as there were more people in and around it than was in the rest of the town. Raymond was a very old town. We talked to some of the people who were there at the Post Office and also some who were outside working in their yards. We ask the whereabouts of the Raymond Cemetery. All gave us the same answer. "It's down the dirt road a bit". Finally we found the dirt road. The fall of 1994 was a wet one and the dirt road was like a wash board. It was so rough. It sounded and felt like it was tearing the vehicle to pieces and me and my husband along with it. It was a mess. Finally we found a house and we pulled into the yard. A pleasant young lady came out of the house and talked to us. She said she lived just a little over four miles from the cemetery. She knew the cemetery well and she couldn't remember seeing a John Harrison Vanbibber's name. Also she told us many of the people in the early nineteen hundreds in that area, buried their dead on their property. Two people were buried on the property next to hers. She was very helpful.
We went on down the rough little road and finally we came to the cemetery. It lay on a little hillside. On one of the road were beef cattle grazing. They must have thought we came to feed them because they start bawling. Everything else was very quite. There were only five houses on this twenty-two mile road.
We turned off the main road onto a little lane. There was a wood sign. The sign read: "Raymond Cemetery, Madera County Cemetery".
Standing there in the cemetery and looking out over the little valley, we wondered about the people buried there. We didn't find John Harrison's gave. There were forty graves with headstones and lots of graves unmarked or with little rocks with no names or dates. One of these could have been John. As we left the cemetery we were disappointed that we hadn't found my relative's grave, but the trip was still rewarding. I thought of the African Proverb, "when an old person dies, a whole library dies with them". A big thank you to Connie Whitworth, our creative Writing teacher, for bringing this to mind.
I'm sure John Harrison Vanbibber would have had great stories to tell. He might tell us about being born in St. Charles County, MO where his parents lived next to Nathan Boone, Daniel Boone's youngest son. Nathan�s wife was John's Aunt Olive Vanbibber Boone. He could tell us about his great grandmother Margory Bounds Vanbibber. How she lived with Nathan and Olive the same time that Daniel Boone lived with them. Maybe he could tell us about his wife Mildred Younger. Was she really Cole Younger's sister? Did he know Cole Younger? Last but not least maybe he could tell me stories about his sister Olive Vanbibber Fulfer. She was my great-great grandmother.
Billie Ruminer
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QUERIES
From Jim Edgar (Non �subscriber) ([email protected])
Mr. Logan, my name is Jim Edgar and I've recently obtained two very old trunks which I was told came from the attic of the Van Bibber home just north of Daniel and Nathan Boone's home on Hwy. F in Defiance, Missouri......Is this true that the Van Bibber's came to Missouri along with the Boone Family.....If so....I was wondering if you could please provide me with more detailed info....about those who occupied the "old stone house"........
Thanx!!!!! Jim...Architect, Preservationist,
Dreamer and Wood-Butcher......
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From David J. Brown ([email protected])
This has nothing to do with the Newsletter, but an old Van Bibber genealogist correspondent of mine is trying to get some Revolutionary War documentation. His name is Jack Nebergall. I don't know if he has E-mail capability but have written to him to find out. Question. Are there any Nebergall people who are members of the Pioneers? I had 2 grt-grt aunts (sisters) who married Nebergalls, and have corresponded with some of
them.
Dave Brown
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From Carlian Pittman (Non subscriber) ([email protected])
This is what I am looking for. Esther Van Bibber married James Renfro, Sr. They had a child Mary Renfro that married James Cole.
Do you have any information on this James and Mary Renfro Cole family? Or can you put me in contact with anyone researching this family. I do appreciate you help.
Thanks,
Carlian Massingill Pittman,
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From Jill Bebber (Non-subscriber) ([email protected])
I am looking for information on the Van Bibber families. I reason to believe that my family changed their name from Van Bibber to Bebber right before the turn of the century. This family resided in upstate New York for a time and had a son named Otto George. If you might have any information I would be grateful! The trail has stopped cold for me in Rochester NY. I think that is where they changed their name.
Another piece of information I received is that there was a cigar company in
the NY/NJ area by the name of Van Bibber or Van Bebber? Have you heard of this? My understanding that this is what the family did for a living. This is all based on family legend so I am not sure how valid the information is.
Thank you,
Jill Bebber
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From Helen Landry (Non subscriber) ([email protected])
I am trying to find information on a firm of efficiency experts in business in the Boston area in 1915-16. The company was Van Bibber & Co.
Have you any information on this firm or any idea of where I might look for information?
Many thanks,
Helen B. Landry
3610 Pheasant Lane
Endwell, NY 13760
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From Alice Schurman ([email protected])
Looking for Ann Van Bibber (also shown as Ann Mary on net) wife of Dudley Bonds, both born in early 1790's married in 1815, Newberry Co. S.C. Dudley is son of Dudley Bonds of Newberry S.C., mother Francis Meredith of William Meredith/Ann Bond(s). Jacob Van Bibber is shown serving on Jury duty with Dudley Bond in 1774.
Alice Schurman
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From Louise VB Kuldas ([email protected])
Can anyone tell me when the truck strike occurred in MO in the 70's? I was told there was a "Little Green" Van Bibber, his wife and son died during this strike. (He was a trucker) Need the time frame in order to start a search for them. And where it occurred. I believe it was around St. Louis.
As my Great Grandfather was John Green VB, think maybe one of my lineage was named for him. Great grandfather was a small man and maybe have been called
that at one time, but he died 14 Feb 1937.
Many thanks,
Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at..
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk
Louise VB Kuldas
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From Bill Bullard ([email protected])
In the South Sulphur Cemetery in Hunt Co., Texas is a grave marked "JIM
VANBIBBER 1866 - 1891" next to the grave of "Catherine VanBibber Born Dec. 1805 Died July 13, 1896".
I believe that Catherine is Catherine Ridenour that married Peter VanBibber but from my information I can not identify Jim VanBibber. Can you be of any assistance?
Bill Bullard
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From Beverly Gillihan ([email protected])
As I was going through and up-dating my VB research material I realized I had
very little information on Catherine Ann Guthrie and Jacob Van Bibber, -m- 1818 in Tennessee. If anyone has family history on Catherine including birth date, death date,
etc. I would appreciate having it posted.
I applaud your GenForum idea, I had wondered why nobody had done it yet. I went to the URL and requested the forum.........hopefully, everyone did.
Thanks in advance.........Bev.
Beverly Gillihan
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From Louis VB Kuldas ([email protected])
I'm sure you already have this web site...But just in case you don't its http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/marriage. There are a lot of the marriages for the state of IL some are missing but I was able to verify some I had only a hint of the dates.
I just want to remind everyone, I'm still looking for those Van Baber's and Van Biber's. I actually feel blessed, to have received as much information as I have for my Dad's family. My lineage seem to have been very secretive about everything to include the use of their middle names and dropping their first names. I had a hard time believing, my grandfather William Noah Van Bibber had a first name of William until I found it in the census. Or that my Great Grandfather was John Green Van Bibber, he was always Green Van Bibber.
Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at..
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk
Louise VB Kuldas
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From Beverly Gillihan ([email protected])
Re: The son of William/Wylie Franklin Yoakum & Nancy Elizabeth Poff. Isaac -b- 1860, probably Tennessee -m- Elizabeth Van Bebber.
I have no other information on these two and my question is:
Who is this Elizabeth VB? Birth date, date of death, children, etc.
Beverly Gillihan
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From Linda Jones ([email protected])
I would like to hear from and exchange family information with descendants of
Olive Van Bibber that married Thomas Ives Fulfer.
Linda Jones
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